From CNN's Gary Tuchman
Editor's note: Tune in to "AC360°" on Tuesday beginning at 10 p.m. ET to see the remainder of Gary Tuchman's investigation into President Barack Obama's birthplace.
(CNN) - Was Barack Obama really born in America?
A new CNN investigation reveals what most analysts have been saying since the "birther" controversy erupted during the 2008 presidential campaign: Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Period.
While the president has made light of the controversy, the question remains political red meat for some of his critics. A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll showed that nearly 75% of Americans believe Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States. More than four in 10 Republicans, however, believe he probably or definitely was not born in America.
The U.S. Constitution says only "natural born" citizens can become president - a vague clause that some members of the birther movement contend disqualifies Obama because, they insist, he was born outside the United States.
Well now, are you 'birther' conspirators satisfied? So what else is next? McCain was the one who was actually born outside of the United States. Where was all the uproar about that during the campaign?
CNN treatment of this issue reminds me of the McCarthy era, black listing anyone suspected of being a communist. Only now it is if you question the president's birth, you are shunned, out cast and not worthy of being interviewed. Recently Ali Velshi refused to ask Mr. Trump any questions about China, or job's creation until he, Mr. Trump, agreed that Barry was born in the US. How narrow minded of Ali. When did it become a prerequisite that a candidate has to agree with a news organization before that person could run for office? CNN is just a corporation, not the king maker and Ali Velshi is just an employee. Say 'Heil Hitler!' or we wont conduct business with you. Good grief, the Liberal media is running scared.
Ali Velshi, I have no doubt that many of your viewers do not agree with you, your religion, education, marital status. However, each day we give you the benefit of the doubt. You are an adult and have your personal reasons for believing what you do. Please extend this courtesy to the rest of us.
@ Liz Carter check out this
Feb 28, 2008 NY Times
McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out.
It was an issue, however Liz, you see the world the way you were taught, that black men work harder than white otherwise you would have remembered that McCain was raked over the coals. McCain presented his original long form birth certificate, and the fact that he was born on a military base made it a non-issue. Barry on the other hand refuses to show the long form, which makes the issue suspect. Barry has brought this on him self, show the long form and the issue will be settled.
Remember the Killian documents controversy?
Documents critical of President George W. Bush's service in the Air National Guard in 1972–73. Four of these documents were presented as authentic in a 60 Minutes broadcast, less than two months before the 2004 Presidential Election, but it was later found that CBS had failed to authenticate the documents. Subsequently, several typewriter and typography experts concluded the documents are forgeries, as have some media sources.
The fallout: CBS's top reporter (for over 40 years) Dan Rather resigned. CBS also terminated Mary Mapes and Producer Josh Howard and Howard's top deputy, Senior Broadcast Producer Mary Murphy, as well as Senior Vice President Betsy West, who had been in charge of all prime time newscasts.
Some of the same criticisms of CBS could be said about CNN handling of the 'birther' issue.
1) No generally recognized document experts have positively authenticated the long form birth certificate.
2) Since CNN used only faxed and photocopied duplicates, authentication to professional standards is impossible, regardless of the provenance of the originals.
3) CNN is exhibiting liberal bias and attempting to influence the outcome of the 2012 U.S. Presidential Election.
I do remember it! My opinionable question was, 'Where was ALL of the uproar about that during the campaign'? McCain was NOT raked over the coals! No way near the way this president has been about where he was born. Obama WAS born within the confines of the UNITED STATES; on no offsite army base, no other place, but has been treated like he came down with ET! McCains' issue was fleeting; a fleeting question, shutdown quickly because THEY said it was on a base. BTW, he presented his long form to whom? Not me!
This person who repeatedly keeps trying to fan the flames of controversy and hate by distorting a truth that I've observed in my own life; stories I've read and been told happened in the past in reference to the workload of black workers vs white workers, is the same person who said on April 19, 2011 2:04pm that the promises of The Constitution were for white males only; said that blacks and women couldn't vote then! How about them apples? So technically, if he wants to keep pushing it, we can go there!
Yes, Liz, I did say what you claimed. It was in response to C Martinez, who said "...an America that lives up to it's potential and the promises of it's Constitution, where anybody who is qualified can become President.." I pointed out that the promises of The Constitution were for white males only, that blacks and women could not vote at the time.
Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution: states in part that "...those bound to Service for a Term of Years, ..., [are] three fifths of all other Persons." The words are there for anyone to read. Most of the founders were slave holders, I doubt that any of them believed that any person could be come president.
Take the words of the president's pastor, Dr. Wallace Charles Smith, at Shiloh Baptist Church in D.C, who said "I am here … they tried to write me off as 3/5 a person in the Constitution!" Sounds like Dr Smith agrees with me that the promises of the original Constitution was intended for white males only.
The strength of The Constitution comes in that it can be amended. That from our countries unique tribulations it has been reshaped to reflect a more inclusive and just country.
Liz, you continue to take the position that a black man works harder than a white man. The only qualifier you give is the race of the person. If you had said that in a particular place and time, a specific town or company, you may have a valid point, however you said all black men. In other words you are saying that the white soldiers protecting our country are working less than the black solders. Or that the white teachers are just not up to par with black teachers. Hate is hate Liz, you can not hide behind saying it is your opinion or that you were just taught to think that way. Those excuses were used for too many years.
I too was responding to the perpetual, hate-driven ongoing rebuking, and villifying of this PRESIDENT by many angry, evil, envious, selfish, selfrighteous, supremasts on this blog for ever taking any personal time off, ever! Yes, I said we as black people have always had to work harder than white people in most any company, in most any place in AMERICA, and at most anytime now and historically. Even when it comes down to one of us being the President of The United States. That's not hate! That's the truth.
You always find a way to smooth through your own filibustering obviously biased statements, by flip-flopping it back around to say somebody else said it, somebody else did it, it was printed in this article, this website, that website, etc, as if they're inpenetrateable; as if words can't be spinned to aquire a 'certain' perception. You seem to be the only one who's sooo upset with my observational opinion! You must know it's true! You weren't born 'yesterday'! For most honest folks, it's common knowledge!
At my parents home, we have a framed copy of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of The United States, The Gettysburg Address, and The Emancipation Proclamation. My 94 year old mother was a historian of American History. She read to us as children, required that we go; and took us to the library to check out books to read and learn about the struggles of the African American, living in America! We know all about the 'three-fiths' of a man syndrome. That mindset remains with many Americans.
Three-fifths of a person! That very same 'mindset', 3/5s' of a man, remains even if sub-consciously, in the hearts and minds of many of the dominant race, the superior race throughout America; which is the top reason I've seen, heard and experienced as well, the 'truth' of the comment I made about American workers, black vs white! Oh, that not only applies to us and them; that also applies to them and others. We're not all illiterate and naive. We've always known we had to work harder! Yes, we were warned!
You are in big denial! You're a conservative pessimist, who likes to argue, debate; or as you like to claim, discuss your media/internet ginned up 'facts' to try to show off your 'filtered intelligence', against what I'd like to refer to as my 'unfiltered intellect' which has been ginned up through listening, studying, observing others, and personal lifes' experiences! You will always denounce and/or avert the truth as it is, until I'm through talking to you! Don't ask me anymore questions. I won't answer!
To Jay in NC
I'm sorry but I can't understand why anyone would still question the President's birth in Hawaii. Do you think the birth announcement in the Hawaii paper shortly after his birth is a conspiracy also?
I'm an American citizen, born in Germany ( Mother American). I feel like a second rate, chopped liver American due to the fact that I am not allowed to become president of my home country !!!
Dr. James David Manning, an African American, pastor in Harlem at the Atlah church says that no Republican will beat Obama, unless Obama’s illegitimacy is exposed in a BIG way. Orley Taitz is barely getting the job done and I know Republicans and others won’t breach this subject at this stage, strategically. I understand. However, the issue is so blatantly obvious on the face of the false long form birth certificate, hosted by the Whitehouse.gov site, that it should be a non-issue (when the time is right). Forget about all the layers in the PDF, here’s what must be shared with election commissions and anyone in the media who are truly patriotic:
The fake birth cert, still at Whitehouse.gov is an insult to all Americans. Try these 3 facts out than mainstream media morons can even digest:
a) Download it from here:
"Kenya" did not exist as a nation in 1961, the year Obama was (ostensibly) born.
It did not exist as "Kenya" until 1963. Prior to that, it was known as the East Africa
Protectorate, Kenya Colony. Prior to 1920, it was known as "British East Africa."
b) The second point on this "long-form birth certificate" leaves the State of Hawaii with some explaining to do as well–after all, it's allegedly their certificate.
The place of birth (hospital) is listed as Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.
You see, that hospital seemingly did not exist in 1961, as I quote from the correspondence of one of the investigators:
This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital"
and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to
Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.
How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
c) The third point may be too technical for morons to digest but if it was ‘scanned’ as the white house claims and weakly tries to add some scan/OCR errors, why does it say in the PDF’s header:
Produced at: 7:09:24 AM on 4/27/2011 in MAC OSX 10.6.7 using Quartz (a pdf editing tool)
OOPS – they forgot to delete this hidden field, deep within the PDF file showing the production tool they used and as many of us know it has even more editing issues, layers issues, fonts not being correct….
HERE’S A BONUS: It appears to be on “security paper” but such paper did not exist in 1961, nor was it
Used in Hawaii. You can look at others from that period – August 161 and they have the State of Hawaii seal embossed on their certificates – all except Obama’s
EXTRA BONUS: No registrar in Hawaii is named “UKELELE” that’s a Hawaiian guitar! Or the joke’s on us: “U.K. lLee”