Osama bin Laden mission codename "Geronimo
May 2nd, 2011
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  1. Ben Carnes

    I am deeply shocked and saddened that such a heroic figure within our Native people had to suffer the insult of being aligned with a figure known for being a terrorist! I could think of other names like "Custer", "Columbus" or how about "Bush"! It will be even sadder if this goes unchallenged!

    May 2, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
    • Taysha

      I agree! I am not only a Native American, I am from Oklahoma. I lived near Fort Sill where there are memorials and sacred burials for this man. He was not a terrorist! He was defending his natural born rights and people. Plus he did not mastermind a huge mission that killed women and children. I dont understand how Obama a target of racial slurs himself would allow such a thing????

      May 3, 2011 at 12:26 pm |
      • Char

        Remember, things change behind closed doors and one will scratch the back of another until the light of day shines upon them and others see! Everything is a game to them! If they had every single thing taken from them and their families killed, like Geronimo did, I bet they'd be pissed off too! But, WHO were here first? Not any of them!

        May 3, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
      • Deb

        He didn't.... and, that' not what happened. Please be patient and wait until all the OFFICIAL info is out, before jumping to conclusions with this group of uninformed people. When people jump to conclusions based on incorrect information, then get angry with many others..... is exactly how hate groups start. Al Queda is FULL of members who are very angry about misinformation and false perceptions. How ironic.

        May 4, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • mzherbz

      yes i totally agree or STEPHEN HARPER !!...the PM who is trying to abolish our treaty rights..sick i tell ya
      you whits folks tell us NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE to get with the times..listen to your owns words and QUIT BEING SO DAM PREJUDICE !!!!!...........ya ya woteva git mah point ...

      May 3, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • UNC

      Guys, Geronimo was the name of the OPERATION, not bin Laden himself. In the rush to report the story, a bunch of idiots on twitter and blogs misreported the transmission as "Geronimo is KIA" or even "We've IDed Geronimo." They just obviously misunderstood and garbled up the code– the message was actually "Geronimo-E KIA," where "Geronimo" identifies the operation, "E" stands for "enemy," and "KIA" is short for "Killed in Action."

      As a Native studies student, I'd encourage everyone to take a chill pill.

      May 3, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
      • Anthony

        <<the message was actually "Geronimo-E KIA," where "Geronimo" identifies the operation, "E" stands for "enemy," and <<"KIA" is short for "Killed in Action."

        "Geronimo-E KIA," is the exact point that is to be made, reading your post just solidifies it. Without quotes, Geronimo Enemy Killed in Action" AKA an American Wet Dream.

        May 3, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • Char

      You are so right Ben!!! The Native Americans have (and still are) suffered more than any human on this planet, in their own holocaust that is never spoken of!!!!! From the lies in textbooks, to the total ignorance of the American people to see to the truth of the matter! They fought for what was being stripped/stolen from them in self defense! Wouldn't others do the very same thing? But then, the land was NOT for sale, there were NO taxes, there was NO destruction to Mother Nature, etc., etc. But THEY were called the savages??? NO they weren't the savages! Only those who took and destroyed everything they came in contact with were the savages (white/Europeans)!!! Re-read the history and actually talk to the Elders of tribes for the actual account of what really happened! THEY don't have a reason to lie!!!! But, as you see things as they are today, WHO had/has a reason to lie? Every single treaty made with the Native Americans was broken as soon as it was 'sighned' by the Native Americans, and even this is stated in History! I don't know if they are bragging, but other countries who have had treaties with the USA are NOT laughing, because the very same thing happened to them as well!!!!!!!!!
      But to use a prominent member of the Apache Tribe's name in vain is absolutely sincister!!!! It's a mockery!!!! Well, we all know how they work, don't we? Then the members of the skull and bones to desicrate a grave only show just how demonic they really are!

      May 3, 2011 at 8:20 pm |
      • Jay in NC

        You have a child like view of the world. "NO destruction to Mother Nature, " what a joke, yes they did , they over fished, burned vast forest. The Inca slash and burned there way across South America. Some Native Americans even had slaves. Why should anyone trust your opinion when you are so naive?

        May 7, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
    • don henderson

      Osama Bin Laden's code name was "JACKPOT," NOT GERONIMO! Geronimo was the code name for the "successfull kill or capture of Osam Bin Laden." Evrybody's got it wrong and got their collective panties in a twist over a big mistake in communications.

      May 3, 2011 at 10:06 pm |
    • Hacha C Norris

      I find it disturbing that the US government and its war planners use Native Peoples ancestors names to assign to military operations, be it the name assigned to the alleged assassination of Osama bin Laden or other military and counter insurgency ventures. The US governments defines terrorism from its own interest, to incite fear and hate, while fabricating information. It continues to rewrite US history to serve its purposes, while spitting on Native Peoples, our homelands and the bones of our ancestors. Your celebratory glory in 'killing' is no difference from the racist views of Custer, Andrew Jackson and Bush (skull and bones; Yale). The White House needs to apologize to the Apache People and desist from further use of Native names, and places. Geronimo fought for his lands against an invader. Please stop the demonization of Native and Arab peoples.

      May 3, 2011 at 11:27 pm |
      • Deb

        I find it ironic that attitudes like yours is exactly how hate groups start (just like Al Queda!), based on incorrect information. You.... and many others.... are so very inflamed, and do not even know what you are talking about, but jumping to conclusions as a group... based on initial information, before all the facts are out.

        May 4, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
      • Andy O

        In a nutshell, you've covered all the main areas of this topic. Excellent post!! Doesn't BO have ties to skull and bones? Why to they have such a "secret society?"

        May 9, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • Hacha C Norris

      I find it disturbing that the US government and its war planners use Native Peoples ancestors’ names to assign to military operations, be it the name assigned to the alleged assassination of Osama bin Laden or other military and counter insurgency ventures. The US government defines terrorism from its own interest, to incite fear and hate, while fabricating information. It continues to rewrite US history to serve its purposes, while spitting on Native Peoples, our homelands and the bones of our ancestors. Your celebratory glory in 'killing' is no difference from the racist views of Custer, Andrew Jackson and Bush (skull and bones; Yale). The White House needs to apologize to the Apache People and desist from further use of Native names, and places. Geronimo fought for his lands against an invader. Please stop the demonization of Native and Arab peoples.

      May 3, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
    • Deb

      Get your panties out of a wad. You have jumped to conclusions before the entire, correct story is out: The name of the operation, itself, was "Geronimo"........... not after the Indian, but in reference to jumping in and taking a risk, like folks yell "geronimo!" before jumping out of a plane. And, the codename for Osama was "Jackpot". Therefore, "Geronimo EKIA" was short for "Operation Geronimo, Enemy Killed In Action." I just hate it when people are upset to the extreme and don't even know what they are talking about. Shame on YOU.

      May 4, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • stopthemadness

      Bin Ladens code name was jackpot, not geronimo. Geronimo was the code name of the now succesfull mission that to capture or kill bin laden. I wish people would fact check before having a hissy fit over bad information and misunderstanding.

      May 4, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  2. Els Herten

    Osama bin Laden codename "Geronimo" ?! This is utterly disgusting! How dare you compare Gotlayeh (a.k.a. Geronimo) with a terrorist?! This, once again, proves how racist, dumb, arrogant and ignorant the United States government is. Once again, the First Nations people – a.k.a. Native Americans or American Indians – have to suffer yet another insult. When will you people ever learn?!
    If you have a lack of ideas to nickname a terrorist, maybe I can suggest the following: George A. Custer, Columbus, George W. Bush...
    You owe the First Nations people of the United States a public apology for tgis umpteenth insult!

    Sincerely disgusted,

    Els Herten
    Brussels, Belgium

    May 2, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
    • Char

      Well said Els!!!!!!!!!!! Well said!!!!!!! They owe them more than an apology, but as always, they most likely will NEVER get is! They only know to TAKE, not give!!!!!!!!

      May 3, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
    • Deb

      Ignorant? Just remember....when you point a finger, there are 3 more pointing back at YOU: Geronimo was the name of the entire operation, and it was NOT in reference to the Indian leader, but a word we use to describe jumping into risk.....just like people yell, "Geronimo!", before jumping from a plane. The codename for Osama was actually "Jackpot". IGNORANT is the person that believes whatever he reads, without doing research, then pontificating about it. Shame on YOU.

      May 4, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • stopthemadness

      His code name was jackpot. Geronimo was the name of the operation that was meant to kill or capture him.

      May 4, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
  3. Miguel

    You have got to be kidding me!

    May 2, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
  4. jennifer crow dog

    itz a very sad thing..Geronima is probly turning over in his grave! please respect my Native American people, u have already done sooo much to us!!!!!

    May 2, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • Char

      You're so very right Jennifer Crow Dog!

      May 3, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
  5. Pat Wilson

    This is absolutely unbelievable!! How could there ever be a comparison!! Disgusting!!

    May 2, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
  6. Cheryl Charnell

    if this is a joke ...it's NOT FUNNY!

    May 2, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
  7. JENNA RAVEN PRINCE ~ LOUISVILLE, KY

    As I'm sure all of my Native brothers and sisters would agree, using Geronimo's name was nothing less than blasphemous. However, given his new location I think he's earned the new nickname "Chicken of the SEA" .... and just in case Ms. Simpson should ask, it's not chicken, it's not tuna, it's the sweet taste of good old fashioned American Justice!

    May 2, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
  8. mariann

    i think it's a slap in the face that the code name for that swine was Geronimo. Geronimo was a warrior who fought to save his people from invading whites. To use his name in this capacity is incredibly disrespectful.

    May 2, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
    • mzherbz

      HERE HERE...YOUR NO WARRIOR !!...HIDING BEHIND DA OVAL DESK... SHEESH

      May 3, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
  9. eclecticwoman

    I am NOT amused, as I know my many Native American friends will not be either. Equating bin Laden, a terrorist, with Geronimo is an example of another poor choice by politicians!

    May 2, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
  10. Maddie Miller

    As a desendent of the Apache blood line I am totally insaulted by the fact that you would use our great leader of people "Geronimo" as a code name for a terrorist!! Why not use the name{s} Custard, or Columbus or even Bush?? Why must we as a native people be subjected to a continued bashing?

    May 2, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
  11. Sandra Nail

    Why is the name Geronimo used as a codename for Osama bin Ladin? Why would you refer to an American Indian in the same sentance? What is it you are implying here?

    May 2, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
    • mzherbz

      YOU NO WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT ????
      THE WHITE SOCIETY OF AMERICA WANT NATIVE AMERICANS TO HATE ON THIS MAN SO...
      HE CAN LOSE HIS PRESIDENTIAL VOTES WHEN THE VOTING TIME COMES .....UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHITE FOLK IS DOING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      May 3, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
  12. Mike Oxfat

    i bet they will call this an "honor to native americans" .... dont associate MY name with any screwed up political agenda, the only soldiers that truly died so i could live were killed by my ancestors.

    May 2, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
  13. Ashley

    It's very disappointing to know that misinformed and uneducated CNN producers like Emily Schultze have the ability to influence thousands of Americans with the fabricated statement made above. Scary! It looks like this senior white house producer needs to head back to grade school with her elementary school remarks.

    May 2, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
  14. Rachel War Cloud

    The uh....comparrison is TOTALLY insulting to we native people....nothing ever changes.

    May 2, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • salena

      "some" americans and news cast persons are horrible just like our canadian government...they should have used mission "bush", since that dude was the one being the major gold digger...man ppl don't seem to realize that our ppl are still suffering today with bull crap..our heros names don't need to be used, like why native american..ugh...NOTHING WILL NEVER CHANGE....

      May 3, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • Deb

      UH....the comparison was not to an indian....the term "Geronimo" was used in reference to a term folks use when jumping into risk, like when they yell "Geronimo!" when jumping from a plane. Besides, "Geronimo" was the codename for the entire operation. The codename for Osama was "Jackpot". I am also Indian and ashamed of how people like you make the rest of us look ignorant. I guess, now, all the slot machines in Vegas are going to unite and complain about the term "Jackpot" being used...... they will be insulted and stop producing.........

      May 4, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
  15. Elliot Hart

    How messed up is this: come to a New World and slaughter the inhabitants if they dont conform to your religion, or just because they get in the way. Then when you have the world believing they are all dead or subdued, take out an enemy leader and give the mission the name of a true American patriot who was among the last to slow down the first holy-rolling invaders to ever grace this this beautiful land with their presence. Yes, America, terrorism is still alive and well...

    May 2, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
  16. Paul

    The code names are not as meaningful as you may think. However I am thinking they could have been a little more imaginative on picking a codename... "Redcoat" "Coyote" "B1 = bearded one"

    May 3, 2011 at 11:22 am |
  17. Jay in NC

    So much for Barry being the smartest guy in the room. Quick to play the race card all while he is trashing someone else's name.

    May 3, 2011 at 11:34 am |
  18. R.J.

    The Operation was named Geronimo, NOT Osama. Osama's code was "Jackpot" P.S. More people died on the Trail of Tears than all the ppl killed on 9/11...

    May 3, 2011 at 11:43 am |
    • Taysha

      Well that makes sense!!!!! Who let someone post this then?

      May 3, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
    • Candice

      Thank you for actually reading and understanding!!! I have been going from one area to another trying to get through to these folks who don't seem to want to understand that Geroniimo was the Code Name for the Mission....NOT THE PERSON~!!! Thank you thank you thank you!

      May 4, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
  19. Leo Gold

    Disgusting. The President better issue an apology and a "teaching moment" or he has lost my vote in 2012.

    May 3, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    • Deb

      Here's a "teaching moment" for YOU, NimNuts: "Geronimo" was the name of the operation, and not in the name of the Indian.... in the name of taking a risk, as when folks yell "Geronimo!" when jumping out of a plane. The codename for Osama was "Jackpot". SOoooo, when the SEAL commented "Geronimo EKIA", it was short for "Operation Geronimo, Enemy Killed In Action."
      I am saddened to see you would waste your right to vote for the leader of our great nation based on your lack of research/education. Shame on YOU.

      May 4, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
  20. Scott

    Good Lord, you guys have to stop looking for a reason to bellyache. It wasn't a comparison, it was a codename for an operation. Get a friggin life.

    May 3, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • Taysha

      Code Names usally are for comparison. Its not a bellyache is a heartache.

      May 3, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
    • CHRISTINA

      YES, WE DO HAVE A LIFE, BUT WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO BE STOPPED IN OUR TRACKS, THEY COULD'VE CAME UP WITH A DIFFERENT NAME, WHY.? GERONIMO.? AND WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR LIFE. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

      May 3, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
  21. Jason

    It is obvious that you Berkely educated hippies have never spent so much as an hour in the service. Codenames for these type of operations are not chosen for historical signifigance, they are chosen for there ability to be clearly understood via radio communications. Geronimo, when heard over a radio, is distinctive, and cannot be confused. Unlike codename "Teddy", which, when said over a radio by a servicemember currently under attack (which you hippies obviously would never understand), can be confused with "Eddy" or "Betty" or any other phoenetically similiar name. And whats more, all of you feigning being offended need to realize that Geronimo was his English name. His TRUE name was Goyahkla.

    May 3, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • mzherbz

      awesome point of view !!!.....LISTEN HERE FOLKS !!............

      May 3, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
  22. yvonne

    this is just wrong.

    May 3, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
  23. Taysha

    We know why a code name are used we are not dumb, it the the choice of name that was used the offends.. There are millions of others just as easily non confusable names they could have choosen. Plain and Simple.

    May 3, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • Taysha

      is used** that offends* * got to use spell check when a tad heated :)

      May 3, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    • Jason

      "Taysha

      Code Names usally are for comparison. Its not a bellyache is a heartache.

      May 3, 2011 at 1:51 pm |"

      Obviously you do not know that code names are for. And as I mentioned earlier, it is now even MORE apparent that you've never spent any time in the service, because then you would understand that we have more important things to do (like, you know, defending people like you) than worry about whether the name we choose (for the practical reasons outlined above) is potentially offensive to you or anyone else. Especially when we are in the middle of a mission to neutralize a POS that wants to KILL you! Your perspective is completely jacked up.

      May 3, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
      • Taysha

        My family is a military family, and they agree that they choose codes for both reasons.. and it wasnt even his codename..it was jackpot

        May 3, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
  24. Taysha

    hmmm, maybe we should take time a research before jumping to conclusions, the title does say mission: Geronimo ... Not Osama's codename was Geronmio.. Jackpot..sounds more like it!

    May 3, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
  25. emmanuel goldstein

    This is a disgraceful insult to a great leader – who was defending his own people in his own country – against European invaders.

    May 3, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
  26. mzherbz

    His TRUE name was Goyahkla..
    UNDERSTAND THAT HIS NAME GERONIMO WAS JUST A CODENAME FOR HIM GIVEN BY THE WHITE FOLK...
    YOU NO WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT ????
    THE WHITE SOCIETY WANT NATIVE AMERICANS TO HATE ON THIS MAN SO...
    HE CAN LOSE HIS PRESIDENTIAL VOTES WHEN THE VOTING TIME COMES .....UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHITE FOLK IS DOING !!!!!....THIS IS HOW BAD THEY WANT HIM OUT..FOR FIRST NATIONS /NATIVE AMERICANS TO HATE ON HIM..

    May 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
    • Taysha

      I ll still vote for him, I did in 2008 and I dont think something like this could change our views on his policies or administration.. Especially when The Mission was called Geronimo could have many different meanings, where as Jackpot..lol well that can only have one..Plus I hate to say it, but Natives are only what 1 % of the population..I dont think it could hurt him that bad.

      May 3, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
      • samg42

        STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES !

        May 3, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
      • Joe

        I didn't vote for him (Obama) in 2008, and wouldn't vote for him if he ran again. Using the name of a great man known to the world such as Geronimo (aka Goyahkla), who fought for his people and his land, was in real poor taste, reckless and insensitive. A man known as a leader of "the free world", has to know better. There is absolutely no excuse for this.

        May 3, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
  27. samg42

    Ha. ha.
    Saddle Up!

    Wagons Hooooooo!

    Damn the RedSkins Wagons Rollllll !!

    May 3, 2011 at 4:10 pm |
    • CHRISTINA

      IN THAT CASE WHY AREN'T YOU OUT THERE IN THE ARM FORCES, WE HAVE ALOT OF OUR NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS IN THE ARM FORCES, WHOEVER YOU ARE..!!

      May 3, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
  28. samg42

    Hey Taysha

    STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES

    May 3, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
  29. jay62

    How dare the white house associate a cowardly terrorist like Osama with a warrior whom was only defending his people from american terrorist soldiers who killed and enslaved his people. I hope that islamic non american terrorist nigger is ready for an apology to the Native Americans for the insult. see the president probaly doesn't like it when we call him names either.

    May 3, 2011 at 4:54 pm |
    • stopthemadness

      Check your facts. Geronimo was the name of the mission not the name of osama.
      The whitehouse did not associate a coward like osama bin laden with geronimo, as geronimo was not bin ladens code name. Bin Ladens code name was JACKPOT. They did however associated the brave and bold mission to kill or capture him with a brave warrior like geronimo.

      May 4, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
  30. Eudiamonia

    The brutal tactics that Geronimo employed to avoid capture were to murder anyone white or Indian (men/women/children) he encountered who were not with him. It was not glorious or in any way noble.

    He killed farmers he came across so they could not report his position, he killed his own tribesman who had reservations about his leadership because he was not a chief. He killed his followers who wanted nothing more than to go visit their captured families in a prison camp so they could not be captured and made to talk.

    Many Apaches hated Geronimo for his tactics because THEY were the ones who suffered the repercussions of his actions as he eluded capture.

    His deeds were so nefarious that 20 years after his capture, the people of New Mexico would not even let him die or be buried on his native soil.

    May 3, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  31. bugbuster

    So far I haven't been able to find anything that makes clear *why* the operation was named Geronimo.
    If it has to do with bad things Geronimo did to some people, then so be it. If he did those things, then he and his descendants own that, same as the white man and his descendants own the bad things he did to his predecessors on this continent. Geronimo was a combatant as well as an honorable leader by all accounts. He was not an innocent victim, and neither were any of the combatants.

    May 3, 2011 at 7:17 pm |
  32. Javier F

    TAKE THE PHOTO OFF THIS PAGE. at least do what you can to stop the conflation of Osama and Geronimo.
    I agree, it is disgusting that they named it Geronimo.

    May 3, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
    • STOPTHEMADNESS

      What is offensive about naming a mission to capture or kill the worlds most wanted terrorist geronimo? It was a mission to defend our country, to defend democracy, to defend human decency against a horrible and bigoted man. What better name than geronimo? Seems to me it would be an honor? They didn't code name bin laden geronimo just the mission to capture or kill him. Bin ladens code name was jackpot not geronimo.

      May 4, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
  33. Andrea

    As a Native American I am deeply appauled that this is what they choose to name the mission to bring down one of the most dangreous terrorits in the world....I want to know why or who actually approved this name..Geronimo was a hero he stood up for the rights of his people..Osama was a killer! Shouldve just name the mission Hitler wouldve been more fitting!!!

    May 3, 2011 at 10:53 pm |
  34. Native Son

    I am a true democrat and love the fact that Obama finally got Bin Laden. However, this is just ONE MORE sign of dscrimination. I had hoped for great strides in tearing down some of those walls under a minority President. He has lost my vote for reelection and I think the Obama administration, the CIA, and the Navy SEALS program owes the Native American population a huge apology.

    May 4, 2011 at 6:47 am |
    • STOPTHEMADNESS

      Bin Laden"s code name was JACKPOT not GERONIMO. Geronimo was code for woo hoo we got him. Geronimo has been yelled in times of battle for forever it seems. It is not used to describe the enemy, it is used to describe the fight, the defending of ones nation or mission and in this case the success of said mission. It baffles me how even Obama supporters won't independently check a piece of info before giving their president underserved flack over misinformation.

      May 4, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
  35. keltrava

    Could have been worse. Initially they were going to use the codename Reagan.
    Anyway more and more Obama is coming across as inept.Everyone except the administration can see that without proof of a body there will be an ever growing mountain of sceptics

    May 4, 2011 at 7:06 am |
  36. HistoriCUSS

    Why is Osama bin Laden the "evil one"?
    Who labeled him a terrorist?
    Who defines what a terrorist is?

    Could it be the real terrorists, the most violent empire in history?

    By their new USAnglo definitions, anyone who makes the paranoid ruling class seem insecure is now 'a terrorist'. Thinking people terrify the ruling class. People who question the authority and redistribution of wealth into their hands terrify the "opulent minority" who claim privileged status. People who act to protect the earth and lifeforms on it are now defined as terrorists.

    What is your perspective about Osama bin Laden based?
    On the mass media and USAnglo propaganda?

    Do you not think if Geronimo were living today and doing what he did back then he would not be called a terrorist by the dominant society occupying these lands? We like to think of him as a heroic defender of his people and his homeland.

    Do you not think that Osama bin Laden is also thought to be a heroic freedom fighter and a protector of his homelands by millions of his "choir"?

    Has anyone heard of the Stockholm Syndrome?

    "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed." – Steven Biko

    Does anyone think that maybe, just maybe, our common PERCEPTIONS of things has been manipulated?

    "The most powerful thing in the world is to construct a reality and have people accept it even when it is to their own disadvantage" – – Maulana Karenga

    May 4, 2011 at 7:39 am |
  37. csturm

    I'm sorry that the Naitve Americans are upset... They really did get screwed by the Europeans hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Maybe the OPERATION name to the rid the world of a terrorist who oppresses peoples' freedom shouldn't have been named after a man who fought to end oppression of his people... It should have been something generic. I personally believe it was an honor to name an operation (process of) to rid the world of one the most evil men in the history of the world after a man who fought for FREEDOM. Obama was the target and his code name was "jackpot". So in reality Geronimo took out the head of the evil beast with precision and speed and the world cheered.... think about it!

    May 4, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
  38. csturm

    Sorry.. I meant osama not obama being the target

    May 4, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
  39. native american

    Racist ass CNN jerks!!!

    May 4, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
  40. native american

    Osama bin Laden mission codename "Geronimo

    Posted by:
    CNN Senior White House Producer Emily Schultze
    THIS LADY IS STUPID!!!!!!!!!! JERK!!!!!
    JERK!!!!!!!!!!!!
    JERK!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 4, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
    • stopthemadness

      Why is she a jerk? Is she a jerk for getting it right? Geronimo was the code name of the MISSION, not the code name for bin laden himself. You know, the mission to defend democracy, to defend humanity, to pay that sucker back for 9/11? What is offensive about naming a mission like that, geronimo? Bin ladens code name was jackpot and so far I haven't heard any slot machines complaining.

      May 4, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
  41. Troll Trollister

    It is important to look at the perspectives of the people expressing their opinions on this forum. But we shouldn't consider the perspective of an opinion posted in faux Native American dialog from old western movies. That would be ridiculous and it would look like this:

    Here is story. Happened 3 moons ago. Big Chief Bin Laden not want to smoke piece pipe with Big Chief Obama. Medicine Man Prophet Mohammed say smoking bad. Mohammed no like fire water either. So hatchet not buried. Big Chief Obama send his braves to take Big Chief Bin Laden scalp. Braves kill Big Chief Bin Laden and he go to big bomb factory in sky with 72 squaws. Battle named Geronimo. Battle cost heap big wampum. Red man say paleface speak with forked tongue and insult us with use of Geronimo for code name.

    May 4, 2011 at 11:48 pm |
  42. Liz Carter in Georgia

    I can see both sides of the native American argument, because they were the first in this nation to be raped, oppresed, stolen from and reservationed on the land GOD gave them! Then there are native Americans who thankfully have been compensated or reparated to 'overcoming' into pretty substantial wealth because of there struggles, who care less that they used 'GERONIMO'! Those are their views! However, they could've named the operation 'SHAKA'! I don't think it would have upset too many African Americans.

    May 5, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • Jay in NC

      Native American Indians encompass a vast number of people, races and time. Winch group do you think were God's chosen people? The first settlers, or the ones that were in the area when European settlers arrived? Understand that before Europe arrived on this continent, so called native people had been at war with each other, enslaving, raping and killing each other. There were good and bad, long and short lived tribes. I do not see how this far in the future we can sit in judgement and pick who was deserving.

      Your only bases for why Europeans are evil is the color of their skin. To single out Europeans as demons is racist. Think of this what would you pick, European culture, medicine, laws, building, farming, machines or Native American way of living. I know what your choice is, and that is exactly why the Europeans were so successful, they had a better system. Does that make you a racist because of your choice? Of course not, you would pick the best system for your family, just as they did. Individuals choosing a better way of life.

      Europeans did not invent slavery. All ethic groups have at one time or another had slaves. Native American's, Asian, and even Black Africans. Here is a chilling comment about modern African slave trade of children.

      http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Nigeria.htm

      The trading of children has been reported in modern Nigeria and Benin. The children are kidnapped or purchased for $20 – $70 each by slavers in poorer states, such as Benin and Togo, and sold into slavery in sex dens or as unpaid domestic servants for $350.00 each in wealthier oil-rich states, such as Nigeria and Gabon.

      This is happening now, not 500 years ago, not 145 years ago during the civil war, but right now. Where is your out cry, where is the call for Justis, why are you not beating down the White House doors and demanding that these children be freed? Could it be that they salve owners are not white? That is the only difference, the color of their skin.

      May 5, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
  43. Turtle Woman

    The fact that the Gov't named Bin Laden after Geronimo is not surprising, but saddening. Native Americans have been considered terrorists since the first europeans arrived here on Turle Island. Now the occupations in two countries designed to kill every one who is Muslin, or differeent, or who has a cell phone and shovel, is an expansion of the same old hatred many whites have always felt for anyone different from themselves. Some may be glad Bin Laden is dead, but the question must be asked how much he was even involved in 9 -11. Iraq never had anything to do with 9-11 but we attacted there first. My faith in the gov't has been so shaken over the years, I can hardly believe anything I hear on the news. Bread and Circus all the time, and the truth?????? anyones guess. Anyone of color will know this is the same old fight the gov't just keeps adding new victims. When will the fighting end?

    May 6, 2011 at 7:11 pm |
  44. Tunji

    I like them using a powerful name Geronimo...The Name of a True and Powerful Warrior. If Native Americans want to protest , then Fine, I'd like to suggest names of True and powerful African Warriors instead. Names like Shaka-Zulu, or Sango (deadly and feared Yoruba war leader) instead.

    May 7, 2011 at 11:49 am |
  45. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Jay, you're always trying to defend the EUROPEAN AMERICAN white man by explaining away his past treacherous agenda, comparing it to others in the world. Does it make it right? I'm aware of man's inhumanity to man! I understand that it thrives in many races of people in the world and is tolerated or permitted in many countries, including some in AFRICA! I also know that EUROPEANS infiltrated countries in AFRICA, with their power-struck ideas of setting up ways of life there, before even being SENT here!

    May 7, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
    • Jay in NC

      Liz, European's did not introduce slavery to Africa. It was already there. Didn't you ever read the Bible?

      May 7, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
  46. Liz Carter in Georgia

    All I was doing was giving my thoughts on how I PERCIEVED both, the pro and con views that Native Americans are having about the OBL mission code name of 'GERONIMO'! BTW, GOD'S chosen people are the JEWS....He even said HE will bless those who bless them, and will curse those who curse them. So folks like KKK, ARYANS, SUPREMASTS, DIXIECRATS and just plain old haters and biggots of 'everyone who doesn't look, work, and live like me' folks, had better be careful of how you treat the JEWS! JESUS WAS A JEW!

    May 7, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
  47. Liz Carter in Georgia

    What do you mean 'so called native people'? BTW, they were not INDIANS, ever! Sailor Columbus thought he'd landed on the shores of INDIA, with his shipload of crooks from EUROPE. The Native Americans are just that; natives of this land; they were here already; they were indigenous to this land! Europeans on the land wouldn't be referred to as 'so called native people' of EUROPE would they? Africans on the land wouldn't be referred to as 'so called natives' of AFRICA! You dismissed the heritage of the land!

    May 7, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • Jay in NC

      I did not dismiss the heritage of the land. I was challenging it. I know that this concept is far beyond most Liberals ability to comprehend. But winch Native Americans? As I said before, the first settlers, or the ones that were in the area when European settlers arrived? Saying that any indian was native to all land is a simplistic view of the world. Wold you accept that blacks can not occupy any other land than Africa?

      I stand by my post made on May 5, 2011 at 3:35 pm.

      May 8, 2011 at 11:20 am |
  48. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Jay, where did I make the statement 'No destruction to Mother Earth'? I never said that the Europeans actually introduced slavery into AFRICA, but I know the idea of it had more reason permeate even more after their presence there. BTW, being servants to the elite and royalty in most countries is not considered slavery, including the UNITED STATES. People here still have maids, drivers, gardeners, valets, house-cleaners, butlers, cooks, nannys, and a few other domestic workers and servants! Are they slaves?

    May 7, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • Jay in NC

      Go back and look, I was responding to Char, who said in part ...." But then, the land was NOT for sale, there were NO taxes, there was NO destruction to Mother Nature, etc., etc."

      May 8, 2011 at 11:25 am |
  49. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Jay, you know I read my BIBLE. Yes, the EGYPTIANS were some of the greatest slave-holders. ETHIOPIANS were too! But those are just two of the countries in AFRICA! There are a few more that I can't recall right now; I'll have to check it again. However, you can't label the whole continent of AFRICA as a slave-holding continent for the heinous actions perpetuated against humans in a few countries there. Since you keep talking about black slave holders vs white slave holders, what were their skin colors?

    May 7, 2011 at 10:25 pm |
  50. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Most Native Americans made sure they weren't going to be slaves to the white man, though! They couldn't see themselves getting their land overtaken and then falling under subordination and into slavery too. That's why they came to AFRICA and started buying and hunting us down. They couldn't see themselves out there in those hot cotton fields and corn fields either and totin' trees.

    May 7, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
  51. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Oh, of course! That's what you do well, but Challenging what? Challenging the origins, proper statuses and ranks of the Native American in this country? This is their homeland, Jay! They lived simply and enjoyed their own ways of life on their on land! No matter how you try to twist it, the white man can't begin to compensate them fully for what they lost. They didn't trapse over to Europe nor Africa running the homesteaders off unto reservations, taking over their lands and setting up their ways of life!

    May 8, 2011 at 9:26 pm |
    • Jay in NC

      You never think, you just respond with hate toward white people. You think that the reason a white person could not occupy this land is only because of their race.

      The fact is Native Americans had slaves also, they over fished, burned vast amount of land.Your idealistic, naive way of looking at them is derogatory. You want them to be quaint like little children. Some were warriors, took land from others with out asking. I say this to point out that they were no better than any other human.

      For you it is always the big bad white man. when black Africans sold their brothers and sisters into slavery you blame it on white men. When Egyptians enslaved Jews 3000 years ago you blame it on European influence. Even now, with news account saying that black Africans sell children for sex slaves to other black Africans you blame it on white men.

      That is racism Liz, you judge people because of their race. Earth to Liz, not every white person owned a slave, many many have given their lives to end slavery. Every time you make a statement like "the white man can't begin to compensate." You are condemning all white men. Again, that is racist, pure and simple.

      May 8, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
  52. Liz Carter in Georgia

    BTW, you need to stop trying to snub Liberals as being unable to analyze, think, judge, and process concepts, we have had a whole lot of practice off of you foolish, flip-flopping 'cons' concepts and lies, which more often fails before they get off the ground! You talk about OBAMA and the 'strange' timeliness of the decisions he made. Well, while everyone was paying attention to that, the cons were in 'the upper room' trying to figure out how to back away from the healthcare appeal promise and RYAN'S PLAN!

    May 8, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
  53. Ben Carnes

    Well, if no one here watched 60 Minutes, even Obama said Osama was Geronimo, which supports an account from another news source. There is no mistake here, and the backlash to this issue justifies my own post at the beginning of this thread. The Operation was named Neptune Spear and supposedly Osama was also code-named Jackpot, but they never said "we have a visual on "Jackpot" or Jackpot E-KIA. As Native people it wasn't our intent to rain on your parade, but it was your military use of Geronimo that provoked the thunder.

    May 9, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
  54. tom from Texas

    "Geronimo was the code name for Bin LaudIn" Quote from President Obama, 60 minutes interview 5/08/11. Boy, some of you guys are gullible !!!! CBS got it. :)

    May 9, 2011 at 6:38 pm |