President Obama hosted an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan on Wednesday night in the State Dining Room of the White House. The Iftar tradition was started by President Clinton and continued for eight years by President George W. Bush. This will be Obama’s third Iftar dinner.
The President welcomed the guests, “Tonight is part of a rich tradition here at the White House of celebrating the holy days of many faiths and the diversity that define us as a nation.”
He spoke about the upcoming “ solemn anniversary” of September 11th,” There will be a time to honor all those that we have lost, the families who carry on their legacy, the heroes, that rushed to help that day and all who have served to keep us safe during a difficult decade.” He went on to note that many who died on 9/11 were Muslim, “Tonight, it’s worth remembering that these Americans were of many faiths and backgrounds, including proud and patriotic Muslim Americans.”
Guests include elected leaders, religious leaders in the Muslim American community, other leaders of diverse faiths and some 9/11 families.
Also among the invited, two football playing brothers. As reported by the Arizona Republic News Arizona Cardinals defensive back Hamza Abdullah and his brother Husain Abdullah, a safety for the Minnesota Vikings, plan to attend the dinner. The brothers reportedly fast from sun up to sundown during the holy month of Ramadan making training camp a challenge.
An Iftar dinner is the evening meal breaking the fast each day during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
After the jump is a list of some of the expected attendees at tonight’s White House dinner celebrating Ramadan:
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
The Honorable Andre Carson, United States Representative
The Honorable John Conyers, United States Representative
The Honorable Keith Ellison, United States Representative
The Honorable Donald Payne, United States Representative
Her Excellency Amina Salum Ali, Ambassador, African UnionMission
His Excellency Abdallah Baali, Ambassador, People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria
His Excellency Yashar Aliyev, Ambassador of theRepublicofAzerbaijan
Her Excellency Huda Ezra Nonoo, Ambassador ofBahrain
His Excellency Akramul Qader, Ambassador of the People's Republic ofBangladesh
His Excellency Bienvenu Joseph Charles Foe-Atangana, Ambassador ofCameroon
His Excellency Adam Bechir Mahamoud, Ambassador of theRepublicofChad
His Excellency Roble Olhaye, Ambassador of theRepublicofDjibouti
His Excellency Sameh Hassan Shoukry, Ambassador of theArabRepublicofEgypt
His Excellency Mory Karamoko Kaba, Ambassador ofGuinea
His Excellency Bayney Ram Karran, Ambassador ofGuyana
His Excellency Dino Patti Djalal, Ambassador ofIndonesia
His Excellency Samir Shakir Mahmood Sumaida’ie, Ambassador of theRepublicofIraq
His Excellency Micahel Scott Oren, Ambassador ofIsrael
His Excellency Aziz Mekour, Ambassador of theKingdomofMorocco
Her Excellency Aminata Maiga Djibrilla, Ambassador ofNiger
Her Excellency Hunaina Sultan Ahmed Al Mughairy, Ambassador of the Sultanate ofOman
His Excellency Husain Haqqani, Ambassador ofPakistan
His Excellency Mr. Maen Areikat, Ambassador, PLO Mission
His Excellency Ali Bin Fahad Faleh Al-Hajri, Ambassador of the State ofQatar
His Excellency Sergey Ivanovich Kislyak, Ambassador of theRussian Federation
His Excellency Adel A.M. Al-Jubeir, Ambassador ofSaudi Arabia
Her Excellency Fatou Danielle Diagne, Ambassador ofSenegal
His Excellency Bockari Kortu Stevens, Ambassador ofSierra Leone
His Excellency Subhas Chandra Mungra, Ambassador of theRepublicofSuriname
His Excellency Mwanaidi Sinare Maajar, Ambassador ofTanzania
His Excellency Edawe Limbiye Kadangha Bariki,Ambassador,Togo
His Excellency Namik Tan, Ambassador of theRepublicofTurkey
His Excellency Yousif Mana Saeed Alotaiba,Ambassador,United Arab Emirates
His Excellency Ilhomjon Tuychievich Nematov, Ambassador of theRepublicofUzbekistan
His Excellency Abdulwahab A. Al Hajjri, Ambassador of the RepublicYemen
His Excellency Ufuk Gokcen, Ambassador and Permanent Observer, Organization of the Islamic Conference
The Honorable Damir Dzanko, Chargé d'Affaires at Interim of Bosnia
The Honorable Sufyan Salman Qudah, Chargé d'Affaires at Interim of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
The Honorable Jetish Jashari, Chargé d'Affaires at Embassy of Republic of Kosovo
The Honorable Tarek Ben Youssef, Chargé d'Affaires at Interim of Tunisia
Mr. Hamza Abdullah,ArizonaCardinals
Mr. Husain Abdullah,MinnesotaVikings
Ms. Dina Amer
Mrs. Durriya Badani, Brookings Institute
Ms. Faiza Arain, Los Angeles Police Department
Dr. Mahmoud Eboo, Aga Khan
Mr. Mohamed Ali Malouche, Tunisian American Young Professionals
Mr. Akram Syed, National Association of Indian Muslims
Mrs. Mansura Shajahan
Mr. Yusuf Shajahan
Dr. Manzoor Tariq, Association of Pakistani Physicians ofNorth America
Not now when we brought home 30 dead heroes to Dover. Stop the insanity Mr. President. Islam wants to kill all of us. Really. What ever happened to your much trumpeted separation of Church and State? If you really mean it, then under what pretext do you hold a religious observation dinner in the People's House??? You are unbelievable. I don't care if Bush did it. It was wrong then and it is wrong now and you know it. It is only because the group that gives you highest poll numbers are muslims according to today's polling. Stop the artifice. You are a muslim ( born one, you can't give it up). Just keep it out of the public arena and between you and your mosque leadership and your God. Muslims want to kill us all. Please remember that.
SAVE AMERICA ... IMPEACH OBAMA NOW !!!
YOU MUST BE A FOOL, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT ALL MUSLIM TRYING TO KILL YOU... ENJOY YOUR FAST FOOD PROBABYLY YOU ARE A FAT RED NECK DUDE.... WORKING OUT WON'T HURT YOU KNOW!!!!!!!
Mary you are completely out of your mind. Please stop parroting Fox News and learn to think on your own.
Islam along with Christianity and Judaism are Abrahamic religions that all teach the essence of peace and tolerance.
It is only the extremists like you that spread hatred and violence. You do not represent America.
Please study the history of Islam. Read about Mohammed's life and that of Ali. Read about the Koran's ABSOLUTE intolerance of anyone not of the faith ("infidels) and the free pass given muslims to kill infidels. Then come back and lecture me about the religion of peace. It is not. You jsut can;t believe given teh WEst's Judeo Christian values that any religion can actually elevate killing to a holy act.
Wrong. Read the story of Mohammend and Ali and the founding of Islam. Then read the Koran and explain what the definition of an infdel is ( You and me) and see that the Koran says Muslims may kill infidels in the name of Allah wihout sanction. It really is not a religion of peace though some would have it spun that way to fool you.
I think the confusion between Islam as a religion and the actions of some Muslims betrays a lack of understanding, I think that this step of Obama is a good step to bridge the gap between people and cultures that America is not exclusive to a particular religion.
Muslims have become part of the American people and politicians understand this before the public can understand.
The First Family celebrated Christmas in the White House; they celebrated Passover; and they now celebrate Ramadan. It is nice to know that we have a White House that can celebrate the holidays of all our citizens. What is sad is to see so much bigotry among the comments here.
Unbelievable that some people are so full of bigotry and hatred that they still insist that Obama is a Muslim. When people are so full of hatred and anger, they cannot see anything beyond their own mistaken beliefs-and there is no way that Obama was raised a Muslim by the Dunhams. I don't think they would have even known how. In fact, the irony in all this is that he was raised by white people (his mother and her parents), and that means he was raised more like a white man than a black man. The truth is that I don't think he could have become president if he had not given the kind of confidence that a white mother could give him-to expect to achieve whatever he wanted to. Little black boys are not taught that. We can see why. He is truly amazing, and it is too bad that so many people cannot see it. Another interesting thought: if he were white, so many would suddenly see his accomplishments. Strange thing, prejudice.
I would chalk it up to ignorance, but I'm sure the main factor is racism of all sorts.
My friend called and said your moderators are asleep and not moderating. Keeping posts off the board by inaction is really dishonest. Moderate and post the tons of opinions we all know are sitting in your in box.
Moron...I have posted many times and all have been included. Maybe you should check your language if yours are not making the cut..
No Comments? Really? Your kidding!
What? No invitation? Oh, I see how it is. The House of No Hope is good enough to be my answering service... but they can't extend a dinner invite. I am so hurt.
When I see these dinners I now wonder how much? I am sure I will see responses from people saying money spent on these types of dinners is ok to do.
Here is some food for thought for those people.
Even if you totally disagree with the Tea Party – we have a grass roots organization who wants smaller governmnet and less spending. Instead of the people in elected offices listening to them, even if they do not agree with them, not only don't they listen they try to shut them down by blaming them and calling them names. Some elected officials even call for the media to ignore them. Every American should be angry at this type of behavior and response from the people we elected.
And that explains the Koch Brother's, Coors, Murdoch, Big Oil, Health Professionals,
American Dental Assn $294,250
American College of Radiology $292,000
American Society of Anesthesiologists $282,000
American Academy of Ophthalmology $200,500
American Physical Therapy Assn $192,600
National Community Pharmacists Assn $192,500
American Optometric Assn $178,500
US Oncology $163,150
American Academy of Family Physicians $162,750
OB-GYN PAC $158,755
American College of Cardiology $148,250
American Medical Assn $134,700
College of American Pathologists $134,500
American Assn of Nurse Anesthetists $120,100
American Academy of Dermatology Assn $112,000
American Osteopathic Assn $109,778
Mednax Inc $108,012
Marchon Eyewear $106,800
American Nurses Assn $101,750
American Podiatric Medical Assn $87,500
Exxon Mobil $394,635
Koch Industries $318,800
Chevron Corp $251,271
Mewbourne Oil Co $185,000
Valero Energy $123,500
American Gas Assn $119,500
Williams Companies $106,200
SW Jack Drilling $92,000
Walter Oil & Gas $68,800
Hunt Oil $68,300
Plains Exploration & Production $61,600
Halliburton Co $60,820
Petroleum Marketers Assn $44,000
Red Apple Group $41,300
Occidental Petroleum $41,098
Hartman Oil $40,400
Weatherford International $40,400
This is just a reduced list of Teapotty benefactors....so how does that square with...
The Oh Poor Me we are a little ole grass roots organization we have to fend for ourselves fund our own movement. FALSE!
Get off it....you are funded by the richest of the rich who are bent on destroying working Americans for your own greed.
It is disgusting to even read this article ! I feel like vomiting reading that our President stands and talks like this.
No wonder he bows to Saudi King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"he bows to Saudi King" while bush was lead at the arm of the saudi king
as the article states GWB held yearly ramadan dinners at the white house after 9/11
The pentagon holds yearly ramadan services
OBAMA FOLLOWS THE 'DEAD HORSE' STRATEGY ...
The tribal wisdom of the Indians, passed on from generation to generation, says that, "When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount." However, Obama chooses to consistently follow the 'Dead Horse" policy, such as:
1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
4. Arranging to visit other countries to see how other cultures ride dead horses.
5. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.
6. Reclassifying the dead horse as living-impaired.
7. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
8. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase speed.
9. Providing additional funding and/or training to increase dead horse's performance.
10. Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead horse's performance.
11. Declaring that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly, carries lower overhead and therefore contributes substantially more to the bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.
12. Rewriting the expected performance requirements for all horses.
And of course....
13. Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.
Leaning over the shake the hand of someone older and shorter is one thing, but if I remember right G. W. Bush kissed the Saudi Prince and then they walked holding hands. Customs and protocol vary in different parts of the world.
The first EMT responders at the Pentagon on 9/11 were Muslim Americans.
As for the White House Iftar dinner it is an old custom going back many years. It s to honor Muslim Americans who have served this country. Not the current terrorist who have hijacked their religion.
Just remember 85% of So Called Muslum Americans hate our Guts and if they new of any plans to harm america they would not say a thing
Did you ever wonder why none of the muslum street vendors were at the WTC on 9/11
In paterson nj Muslums were dancing in the streets and burning the american flag (I know because I saw both of these behaviors
@ joe ..... get your facts straight and provide sources.
American Muslims make up about1% of our overall population.
Since 9/11 there have been over 800 hate crimes against American Muslims.
"Offering federal data rather than mythic scapegoating of an easy political target, the Senate hearing focused on the fact that while Muslims make up 1 percent of the population, they are victims in 14 percent of religious discrimination cases. These range from homicides and mosque burnings to job, school and zoning law abuses, according to the Justice Department. "- From the Senate Hearings.
(Politico) — The overwhelming majority of American Muslims say they are not sympathetic with terror groups like al Qaeda, but they identify less strongly with the United States than other religious groups in the country, according to a new poll on Tuesday.
While 69 percent of American Muslims identify either very strongly or extremely strongly with the U.S., that compares with about 90 percent of Christians and Jews in the U.S. who hold those views, the Gallup survey found.
A full 91 percent of Protestants, 89 percent of Catholics, 86 percent of Jews and 92 percent of Mormons say that they identify either very strongly or extremely strongly with the U.S.
American Muslims and Mormons tend to identify with their faith and the U.S. equally, but Catholics, Protestants and Jews all said that they identified more with their country than with their religion, Gallup said. . . .
The poll found that Muslim in the U.S. were broadly critical of American foreign policy, with 83 percent of American Muslims saying the war in Iraq was a mistake, which, except for Jews and atheists, was about twice as high a number than other religious groups.
Unlike other religious groups in the U.S., Muslims said that widely unfavorable views of the U.S. in predominantly Islamic countries was caused by U.S. actions and not misinformation spread by those countries’ governments. Two-thirds of Muslim Americans said they believed that U.S. actions had tarnished its reputations, while about 70 percent of Protestants, Catholics and Mormons blamed the unfavorable views on misinformation."
@ joe....seems that dancing in the streets part .....gets a pants on fire.
"The fallout from the terror attacks was quick and extreme in Paterson, home to the nation's second-largest Arab-American community after Dearborn, Mich. Carloads of people descended on the city's Arab quarter, screaming obscenities and throwing things at veiled women on the sidewalk. Some radio hosts broadcast - falsely - that Arabs were dancing in the streets and on rooftops when the World Trade Center's towers fell."
NJ Muslim from: 9/11 detainee lawyer to Judge
boston.com for July 31, 2011
God Forbid this country can't aford four more years of this Asshole Obama and Bozo Biden
It will be a better 4 years, since the 8 horrible years of Bush mismanagement will be that much further in the past.
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
See what you liberals are doing to our Country
Jean do you work or do you just collect welfare and other forms of financial Aid?
@joe I'm 76, and retired but I do many hours of volunteer work every month...now what do you do to improve things other than whine?
I'm wondering, where do you volunteer and what do you do?
Seams you can't comment on what I've experienced with Muslums
My Grandmother alway told me when someone can't comeback and address your comment usally means they can dispute it so they change the topic
How about being a part of a group that raises fresh produce for the local homeless shelter, a past officer and a continuing member of a group that provides college scholarships to high school and college students, and which provides continuing education classes to adults... to name just a few
Were you replying to my comment asking what you do for volunteer work? If you are, can you be a little more specific? Part of a group? Continuing member of a group? Sounds like community organization speak. We have many fine goups in this country that do fine work without governmnet involvement. What specifically do you do? And, are your groups funded by the government in any way?
Both are community based ...but both are members of state wide organizations, both are 501c 3 non-profits. One is a state university extension sponsored program, the other is a privately funded public charity which receives no government funds.
I dealt with Muslum here and in the Gulf they don't like us too much on the surface yes but deep down they dispise Us
The Iraq people are very thankful for our efforts. i still get mail from three people from Iraq
The people in iraq and Afganistan love us and need Us to keep them safe. its the (so Called american Muslum) that hate us
I have my own company I' a Vet of the Gulf and Iraq war and Volunteer most of my free time working with handicaped children. I take then into thw outdoors fishing and walking or camping I've seem more than My share at 45 I don't want to see this country destroyed SS is for you retitred folks and should only be for retired folks
S.S. is also for workers who are disabled...my husband also served and he worked hard for 26 years before he retired early with MS, I also worked for many years...SS is also for the widow and children of deceased workers.
People have to pay into the system to earn benefits...even if it is for their spouse or dependents.You do know those end when the child turns 18...or longer if the child is disabled and the disability occurred before age 22.
At 76, I've been through many recessions....I was born during the depression and the worst from my standpoint was Ronald Reagan's....these things work out ...but we wouldn't be where we are today had George W. Bush not mismanaged and wrecked the economy....that is a plain and simple fact.
You should look up SS Basic Facts at: http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/basicfact.htm
I said anyone that paid into SS is entitled I'm against it being used to fund other free aid off of the back of the people that paid in
just as you said before cut my Vet benifits Get real Jean ! not so much for myself but alot of Vets I know need that money and deserve it more than any other progeam we have even SS. Military people made the sarafice and some the ultimate sarafice you can't put these Vets at the bottom in order for the US to remain strong we need the Militaty Power. If I have to go back there I want to make sure me and my men have what we need to not only do our Job but cimplete the mission which is Complete Victory
@joe So I see you have bought into the same old line that has made us into a military industrial complex which has ruined our economy.....how sad.
I agree we have to get our troops out safely...but plain and simple they had no business being in either Afghanistan or Iraq in the first place.
""Islam has always been part of our American family"
I appreciate the President stressing America's inclusiveness. While I take exception with certain things the US has been responsible for over the past 40 years (being grateful for what it has accomplished, and thankful it has had the role and not China or Russia), the ability to have people from all over the world enter and assimilate has been, to me, its greatest strength. But as an history teacher, having him use his position to overstate and exaggerate to make a point diminishes it and does nothing to convince those that need convincing. To say that Islam has "always" been a part of America is so absurd, so at variance with simple facts, that I can only shake my head. Who among the so-called Founding Fathers followed Islam? Since 1776, how many Islamic generals led American troops? In the billboard top 100, in the New York Times bestseller list, in the top 100 American inventors and explorers, how many came from an Islamic background? What family is President Obama referring to? As someone of English background, I get dismayed when your president denigrates what Britain has contributed, but here he ignores the fact that America's laws, values, culture, political system, beliefs were forged far from the influence of Islam just as an handful of Muslims are singled out for individual acts of heroism whilst ignoring the very reason why this small number were called upon to make such sacrifices as seen by the White House continuing to stay quiet regarding massacres seen on a daily basis in Syria.
I would be seriously against cutting veterans' benefits...but then I am a liberal democrat (proudly so), but Republicans Paul Ryan and John Kasich would have no qualms about cutting those benefits. I will say the military budget is vastly bloated and could do with some serious downsizing in both where troops are located and bases that are kept open...that bloat eats up 59% of the budget for military spending and a total of 80% of the budget if you add in all the things caused by the 59%....
Why do Republicans think they are the only ones waving a flag for our troops, or have someone who has served in the military from their family? We all do...especially when you are from a large family.
Below from the Daily Kos:
"So, how far down the rabbit hole is America going to fall before the people say ENOUGH to the chicken hawks who make war and turn soldiers into veterans..disabled veterans? Paul Ryan wants to cut billions from the Veterans Healthcare and Bachman wants to cut benefits. Pressure from veteran groups has her backing up but her mindset is still there. Bank on that one. The tea party crowd is destroying this country.
The next time you talk to a flag waving so called compassionate conservative, please ask them how they explain their path to prosperity and tax cuts will come on the backs and limbless, mentally scarred and deaths of the very people who are supposed to be defenders of freedom."
First we must have a Blanced Budget ammendment
Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution....Do you have a clue as to how long it takes for a total of 38 states (a 3/4th majority) to ratify a new amendment to the Constitution? It took 202 years, 7 months and 12 days to ratify the 27th amendment.
The 27th Amendment was the last one that became law....do you really think we will all care in 202 and 1/2 years?
It is just another one of your Republican teapottiers' boondoggling time wasters...any thing but just buckling down and fixing the tax code. The ultra-rich international corporations are holding the small business person hostage as a shield against higher taxes.
No the Tea party is not destroying this country
the Tea party has woken up america to see that its spends monry and gives it away like a drucken sailor (I'm Marine so I can say that)
Yes,the teapotty is destroying America...and a balanced budget amendment would make drastic cuts to social security, veteran's benefits, medicare, and education....plus your Republican cohorts know full well that by the time 38 states ratified the legislation it would be years after this current situation is history.
This as far as I'm concerned is a non-starter since it won't put people who are currently out of work back to work...just like all their haranguing over the health care bill.
The same bill Richard Nixon and Ted Kennedy proposed in 1974...the same one Mitt Romney signed into law in Massachusetts....and not the Iraqi Constitution Article 31 which the Bush Administration wrote for
and provided the Iraqis with $950 million of our tax payer dollars to implement the Iraqis universal health care.
The Republicans have no intention of totally dismantling the bill only the parts that make insurers cover everyone regardless of their health...they would allow them to cherry pick...and anything else that might keep costs down.
Sorry I am 76...lived too long, and I totally disagree with the self-centered teapotty members.
Joe – you are absolutely right. The tea party produced the ONLY viable plan during the recent fiasco. That was verified by 3 major TV political experts.
Jean – you speak like a true Liberal when you glibly say YOU want all SS cut.
You talk an awful lot about YOU! How about thinking of others for a change – if it isn't a shock to your system. And stop showing off your limited knowledge. After all ANYONE can cut and paste a pile of data.
the demorats are so hell bent on controling everything that they are destroying us in the process
Destroying everything? LOL! George Bush and his war profiteering minions beat them to the punch.
you would cut benifits of vets that deserve more than you do becausr you never put your fatass or your Husbands ass on the line to defend this country
You mean its alreight for me to put my life on the line to protect your right to be an asshole
Can you not read? I have clearly stated my husband served in the Army; he just didn't make it a career.
I hope you have a good mirror because I think you must be discussing your own reflection.
you have some set of balls to cut vet benifits
your are a lowlife liberal lazy scumbag demorat
Look moron, I can't help if you can't read....but where did I say I would cut Veteran's benefits..I said I would be seriously AGAINST cutting Veterans' benefits...but the teapotty would cut them in a heartbeat to keep some fat cat from paying taxes.
And for your information my husband and both sons served this country.
typical liberal you still evade the question
Sorry I have to work now so I can support all you lowlife liberal scumbags that suck on the goverment tit
remeber Buckwheat Obama wants to tax us because we make over 250k. whell if that happens I;ll have to layoff a few people to offset my tax burden
Imagine 20,000 companies doing that Obama alwats said he wanted to spread my wealth around to the lazy liberal bastards but its not fing to happen the Tea party and Palin won't let him
So your true colors come out ....anyone who doesn't believe or say what you and your stupid teapotty wants to hear so you can go forward with destroying this country we are evading questions...give it a break . I think I addressed your questions fully. It is you just can't take the truth or the heat when faced with simple facts.
would be seriously against cutting veterans' benefits...BUT then I am a liberal democrat (proudly so),
so you would cut Benifits you don;t even belive your own shit
Liberal democrats (I am one) would not sit still for cutting Veteran's benefits....so you have a problem with that?
Well lucky you if you make over $250K a few cents more on everything over that which you can't write off won't hurt you.
But, then I don't believe that is what Obama said...and neither should you...the crowd they are aiming at are those making much more than $250K and who pay no taxes.
Obama -Biden 2012
Buckwheat and bozo are done
President Obama and Vice President Biden to you redneck NAZI.
Obama is President by Title only
Yes, he has the title fairly and squarely he wasn't appointed by the Supreme Court. As for you your true racist KKK Nazi colors are on full display.....when are these people ever going to learn some history?
Yes my True colors
I'm a Veteran, a small Business Owner and a patriot if those are my true colors then I'll die protecting my color from someone like your kind taking them away from me. I gave 20 years service to this country and if i have to Ill do some more
First a true patriot doesn't refer to the President and Vice President in any such manner...therefore you can scratch that section from your proposed bio.
you old delapadated old crow with no balls to repy to the questions at hand
Obama is an incopentent Moron and Bidin is atotal Idiot
I answered the question......but as the saying goes.... you can't handle the truth.
So you spent 20 years in the service...thank you for your service.....but who the heck do you think worked hard and paid their taxes for your wages and benefits? This family happens to have several military veterans....include my husband who has multiple sclerosis among them....but really.whose family doesn't. Just as any other American family we have veterans buried in military cemeteries, and some with their names on that Vietnam Memorial Wall.
As for keeping America safe, I didn't see the military stop 9/11...and basically the reason Osama bin Laden had followers was due to his anger that the Saudi's would allow Americans on Saudi soil to fight the first Iraq War against Saddam...if anything you need to learn some serious history.
I'm sick of the military sopping up ever cent of revenue we pay...money which could be better spent making this a better country for the working poor, for improving our educational system, for maintenance of our infrastructure....which Bush let go to ruin.
And if you think the teapotty is going to save your bread.....I guarantee you they will consider your service now over; and you as a veteran just another "entitlement" that they can throw under the bus...to line their pockets with more tax breaks for the greedy.
That is, of course, unless that business of yours' is one of those which is into military profiteering.
Romney- Perry 2012
Debating online is like playing in the special olympics. No matter who wins, your both still retarded.
Yes, Muslims have been a part of this country for many years, starting with the Barbary Coast pirates, who imprisoned US sailors in the Jeffersonian era. Perhaps our Dear Leader, should read a bit about how Jefferson handled members of the "religion of peace".
joe; First I would like to thank you for your service to this nation. However, I must say that you have certainly drank too much TEA since you've been back. The GOP is the party who doesn't give a hoot about Vets benefits, OK? They don't give a d-m* whether veterans get their benefits or not! I heard some time back, one of them saying disabled veterans were one of the biggest reasons the nation was in financial default! So you need to find the truth about who's really concerned about the AMERICAN VETERAN!
What is this? The Jean and Liz show?
It's a forum for discussion , not shoving your opinion down someone else's throat. Please Joe, stop winding them up. It's getting to be boring.
BTW Joe, it seems to me that if you were 'patriotic' and 'loyal' enough to put your LIFE on the front line for the top 2 or 3 percent of this nations' greedy 'national vital interests', YOUR LIFE! It would seem to me that for you as a business person now, and who's able to pay a few more dollars in taxes, wouldn't complain; and because of your loyalty for the same country you were willing to lay down your LIFE, you'd just thank GOD that you lived and prospered enough to be able to pay your share of taxes.
Everyone who is on SS is not lazy. Most people who are on it did work and paid into it. Of course there are some who are on it through the disability portion of it. That part is SSI. It's the insurance part of SS. The insurance is also paid into through working peoples' SS deducted premiums. AMERICANS have been 'socially' paying into this system ourselves...this is not just a government handout. It's substantiated and stabilized by 'we the people'; but has been regulated and shepherdized by the government!
Joe, I'm also a wife of a disabled Vietnam Veteran of the USMC. He doesn't hold very much of your opinion on SS nor the President of the United States. He was always loyal to US Commanders in Chief and their efforts on behalf of our nation. He doesn't nor did he always agree with their reasoning and strategy, but he never berated them! He's always loyal-SEMPER FI! 'Always Faithful' He didn't have the opportunity to start a business, but he's worked at the PO and the VA HOSPITAL. He's paid his dues!
Thanks Liz...Joe doesn't seem to understand that SS isn't an entitlement anymore so than VA benefits...my husband did serve in the military, but mainly he worked hard and we did own our own business...until at age 56 he couldn't function any longer with his MS.
I think Joe talks one thing, but on the other hand he is blinded by greed...and thinks because he served he is due more than those whose tour ended before his, those who when they came home worked hard and paid their taxes while he served.
'Buckwheat Obama wants to tax us because we make over 250K'. LIE! OBAMA was wanting to roll back the BUSH tax-cuts you all have enjoyed for years! He went ahead and extended the for you selfish clowns for another 2 years! What else do you want? Buckwheat, Tar Baby, and Boy are the recent titles your kind have attached to the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and you're a racist, biggoted person with the gall to even address the VICE PRESIDENT as BOZO! The way you even addressed Jean tells your story!!
Who was BUSH and CHENEY then? ALFAFA and SPANKY? ROVE and RUMSFELD were also members of 'OUR GANG', HUH? 'THE LITTLE RASCHALS'! Jean is telling us all the truth and what's right and she did answer your stupid question. I see you rant well, but do you read well. I know you don't spell well. You are nasty, mean, and disrespectful and you owe her an apology, MARINE!!
Whatever happened to the american right of freedom of speech?
The GOP aka Grand Obstructionists Party has never intended to work with this President on anything, nothing, NADA, zilch; and that's been from the day he set foot into the OVAL OFFICE. They don't want history saying that this intelligent Black Man, this Black President; YES I said it! BLACK! actually had to come in and revamp, redo, update, reinvent, restart, recall, restructure, and reconfigure the failed policies the previous White President, GWB made! Had OBAMA been White, it would be just fine! SAD!
Yes sad, but remember these same terrorist effectively never let up on Clinton the whole time he was in office, from the non-existent White Water on. This is being funded by the corporate elite who can buy say and do anything to hold their power.... even brainwash fools like joe who anyone can see didn't qualify in higher education. Anything to keep them from doing what is right by the American people. They will use any means including race to get what they want.
@Barbara, well said. I agree with you. How do they think we're going to let them have it both ways? OBAMA was raised by an American white mother and white grandparents, yet they keep barfing the lie that he's Muslim! Well Joe, and to all of the rest of you TEA drinkers, were the Dunhams Muslim? Was Rev Jeremiah Wright Muslim? You figure if you keep repeating the LIE to the dumb-downed masses with a negative twist, more confusion would be stirred against him; you devious DEVILS! If he was Muslim, so what?!!?
So when will Christians be invited to the Palaces of the Arab Rulers for Dinner ?
@ Liz Carter – Jeremiah Wright might or might not be a Muslim, I don't know. What I do know is that Obama attended his church for almost 20 years and Wright is a professed hater of AMerica: Quote: "Don't say God Bless America, Say God Damn America". He also hated Zionists; said they control America [which the easily led still quote on these posts.]
My point is that Obama was exposed to this rubbish for 20 years and had no objection then. Why? If someone said that about my country I would leave and NEVER go back. What effect could it have had? Wright knows that Obama has dropped him for the duration of his Presidency but as he said: " He'll be back in 4 or 8 years"
@SemperFidelis; 'If someone said that about my country, I would leave and NEVER go back'...you say? Well Sir or Madam, if that would be the cause of you leaving, many Americans would've left and never came back; what with so much of our judicial/court system, so many of our mayors and governors, so many of our Congress members, and even PRESIDENTS were connected and still connected to the KKK and other White Supremast Groups. They say and make even worse conditions for many Americans living in your country!
BTW, because of the right we all are supposed to be able to enjoy, freedom of speech, you're able to sarcasticly announce 'What is this? The Jean and Liz show'? Discussion? From where I sit, that is exactly what it is; however, if you don't like our side of the discussion, go somewhere else to do your damage because I will continue to post my views. Don't think for a little bit that I'll be allowing YOU nor any of the rest of you OBAMA-haters shove your opinions down my throat either. OK? I'M ALWAYS LOYAL!
Yes there should realize the opportunity to RSS commentary, quite simply, CMS is another on the blog.
My boss is as well eager of YouTube comic movies, he also watch these even in office hehehe..