Soaring gas prices and energy focus of POTUS speech today
February 23rd, 2012
08:07 AM ET

Soaring gas prices and energy focus of POTUS speech today

(CNN) - President Barack Obama will talk about ways to expand oil and gas production and how to decrease the dependence on foreign oil in a speech at the University of Miami Thursday afternoon, the White House said.

      Obama's speech in Florida comes at a time when gas prices are soaring around the nation. Gas prices rose 3.3 cents nationwide overnight to $3.61 a gallon, according to AAA.

      "The president clearly understands the impact that high gas prices have on middle class families, but unlike some, he isn't interested in engaging in false debates and phony promises," a senior administration official said. "On Thursday, the president will make clear that while domestic oil and gas production has increased under his watch, (and is) currently higher than any time since 2003, the solution requires more than increased drilling, it requires an all-of-the-above approach that leverages technologies."

   Press Secretary Jay Carney spoke about the issue of rising gas prices to reporters Tuesday.

      "There are no magic solutions to rising oil prices and the pain that Americans feel at the pump," Carney said. "The fact is that the president is very aware of the impact that the global price of oil has on families and this is not something that this administration discovered or rediscovers every spring as some politicians do. Oil production in the United Stateshas increased every year that this president has been in office."

      Before the speech, Obama is scheduled to tour the school's Industrial Assessment Center, a place where students learn how to help manufacturers reduce energy costs, the White House said.


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  1. brian nelson

    This is payback for the Keystone oil pipeline deal. FOX news is all about removing Obama today over gas prices. We should nationalize oil and gas, its a national security issue, could the Republicans argue with that?

    February 23, 2012 at 8:56 am |
  2. Kevin Macomber

    What I find humorous is how he will brag about all the accomplishments made in oil product and renewable energy while he has been in office. One MAJOR problem though . . it is NOT working.

    February 23, 2012 at 9:06 am |
  3. refusethekoolaid

    It's amazing that this president and his lackeys can shovel this garbage with straight faces. His energy secretary publicly advicated for increasing gas prices to $10 a gallon. This president has done nothing to increase domestic oil production and it's increased because of permits granted under Bush. It takes a couple of years from permit issue until oil is produced. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    February 23, 2012 at 9:06 am |
  4. Wired Wrong, S.F.

    But...but....we need higher gas prices so people will buy more chevy volts...

    February 23, 2012 at 9:09 am |
  5. dreamer96

    Some Auto manufacturer, college, university or auto shop should figure out just how much pure hydrogen gas is needed, or mix of hydrogen and oxygen, to double the gas mpg of the average car, or truck, using a hydrogen on demand generator...either DC with the hydrogen(negative post), and oxygen, (positive post), are already separated..or an AC where the two are mixed...Once you know a volume of gas per liter of engine size and charted on RPM and vehicle speeds...

    You could set the hydrogen generator in a shop outside the vehicle an use a dynamo to test run the vehicle or an engine in a stand in a normal engine testing station..outside the vehicle...

    you could install a separate electric alternator, or DC generator in a vehicle and the water tanks and hydrogen generators and backfire protection systems to really increase the mpg of gasoline needed for our cars....Trucks would be easier to convert..using some of the cargo box area or the many spaces under the trucks...If we needed less gasoline or diesel then we would be much better off...

    February 23, 2012 at 9:17 am |
    • Dusty73601

      dreamer96 step back and look at the over all picture The US buys over seas oil, This ia making other countries rich doing this, There is more oil here in the United States than there is there. But beyond that Lets take a look at fuel tax. Today there is $2.39 fed fuel tax on a gallon of gas, Diesel There is $2.39 plus a road tax of $.52 a gallon. You wonder why everything is so High Food, electronics,clothing,materals of all kinds thi is why. This is why so many people are out of work. The reason everyone passes this fuel and tax to the comsumers. Companys cant make a profit they lay off people this is why they are in busness to make money selling their goods. Al Gore said everything can travel by train it is cheeper. Ever seen a set of tracks behing WalMart? No 80% of everything travels by truck. the other 20% there is a truck involved with it to get from point A to B. They say History repeats its self. Reagan faced this when he got into office. Understand I am not putting a plug for Newt but he did get us out of it. Now days Congress and all of the Administration are out for what they can get, they want more money and they vote them selfs a rase and tells us about it later . They are all greedy everyone of them. Tell me something Do you trust anyone in office to take care of you and your familys needs? No I don't either. We don't need a big government. We don't need all these taxes where the rich only pays less than we do We need a flat tax. They need to cut all that fuel tax to what it was in 2000 $.68 cents a gallon. before 911 we don't need to police the world, putting our troops in harms way for oil and after it is over with they go back the way it was before boots were on the ground and it is all over oil. Is that worth one of their lives? No. Now we have Iran with their nukes threat. Isreal can and will take them out but the US Administration will not back them. Why? I have no idea either. We can our selfs with out having boots on the ground. with a push of a button right? Do you know Obama started 2 years ago dis assembling our nukes? You wonder who side he is on? You here anything about this from the Media? Think about this again Who do you trust. We Have Obama running again for another 4 years and paying for it with tax payers money. we have Santoram spending Millions wanting to be president as well as Romney. and they are backed by the Unions as well as Obama. They are doing this for a pay back and they will get their money back count on it. Ron Paul has strange ideas I agree but he is on the right track. We have low budget Newt will not give up I feel he will make a come back maybe. And they are all throwing mud for this job that they will never get their money back they have spent so far ever. Who ever is picked we all need to get behind him. Maybe they can pull all the damage back from what has been done these 3 years Just maybe maybe we can have a good one for a change. Even if it is Santoram or Romney maybe theye is a little truth in what they say.

      February 24, 2012 at 8:25 am |
  6. king

    the president need to have an open meeting with the speculators and Opec, with the people of america, and ask them why demand is not the reason gas prices are skyrocketing, and if the real reason is greed. i remember the last time speculators were driving up prices and saying that demand was too much for supply. the gulf spill happened and one rig, spilled a hundred years of oil for the world in one month. so they can throw that demand factor out the door. i know the repubs beleive in free market, but they fail to incorporate greeed and how powerful that is. stop dragging the american people!!!!

    February 23, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • Steveo

      King,

      This is not a "repub" or "Dem" issue. This issue affects all of us and not based on polticial preference! Gas prices rose while Bush was in office and it is doing the same under Obama. This is a speculation/greed issue! I'm fairly certain Dems believe in free markets too, right? I agreed with you until you made this poltical!

      February 23, 2012 at 10:20 am |
      • concernedjoy

        And gas prices went down when Bush opened up drilling on the east and west coast.

        February 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
      • Trace

        Steveo,

        You are correct! It is not a Dems v Repubs thing. And yes Dems believe in the free market, but this attack started from the GOP candidates attacking the president for the rise in prices. Did you forget that? So those that defend this president and what he's been trying to do would immediately come off defensive.

        Of course, you wouldn't take either side and we both know that.

        As for the previous comment; President Obama has allowed for more production and exporting of crude than any previous administration. Look it up! President Bush asked Opec to increase production and they literally laughed at him. There is precious little any U.S. President can do about the price of oil. Opening up reserves, or heck, allowing them to drill for oil in your back yard WON"T LOWER THE PRICE ! ! ! Its an international market. Every country has demand for the stuff. China has tripled demand over the past 10 years. Macro Economics of supply and demand is prevalent here and it cannot be changed, except if we (The U.S.) develop OTHER SOURCES of energy. Its NOT SMART IN THE HEAD, to think that opening up reserves or running pipelines through everyone's back yard is going to lower the price of oil. GEESH...I must give the GOP credit, people still believe the BS

        February 26, 2012 at 10:18 am |
      • Steveo

        Trace,

        You said "this attack started from the GOP candidates attacking the president for the rise in prices. Did you forget that?"

        You mean in the very same way the Dems attacked Bush for the very same reason? Is that what you mean, Trace? Did YOU forget that? Both sides do it to each other and yet you still wonder why I choose a moderate path? Laughable Trace!

        February 26, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • Todd

      King, you're way of the mark with your clain that one hundred years of oil for the world was spilled, but one gallon was too much.

      February 23, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • Howard

      Nero fiddled while Rome burned ... Obama sings while America burns !!!

      February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
      • annmarie

        obama needs to sing the blues, for the 100 years of destruction he has done to America in 31/2 years. and yes gas prices are unspeakable, this country can't afford to fill their gas tanks, while the obama's fly around the world.

        February 25, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
      • Trace

        More profound words of wisdom Howard? Is this how you promote the GOP side of the argument? Party of no intellect and No ideas....Well done

        February 26, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • Mike in Bend

      King, I studied energy and the effects on the economy 20 years ago in college and we accurately predicted $4/gal gas by 2007 and we also predicted peak oil by 2015. People laughed at us saying it will never get that high in America and we said oh yeah? Well $4 gas has come and now we are seeing $5 gas and climbing. The only greed in this is people driving gas guzzlers and demanding cheap fuel. China's auto sales in 2007 was 8 million cars in 2007 in 2011 it is almost 18 million while in America over the same period starting in 2007 bought 19 million cars and in 2011 is down to 14 million cars. (http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/12/car_sales) This is a very simplistic way to show you that demand for oil in China is growing VERY fast which drives the price up. China probably has another 10 million potential car buyers by 2015 which will out-strip supply ( peak oil ). This IS driving up the cost of fuel not president Obama or Bush or who ever ends up as POTUS in the next election cycle. Oil production in the US since Obama took office is at its' highest in history. This makes Gingrich either completely ignorant or a complete liar when he blames Obama for the situation. If you think gas prices are high now wait till 2015 and beyond. We will have pumped out so much oil by then that wells across the world will start going into decline and demand will be at it's highest. This is truth. Fact: Oil prices will go up. Fact: Efficiency will make it affordable. All I can say is if we listen to the Republicans policy on energy this country is done for.

      February 24, 2012 at 1:36 am |
    • Dusty73601

      Dusty73601
      Your comment is awaiting moderation.

      dreamer96 step back and look at the over all picture The US buys over seas oil, This ia making other countries rich doing this, There is more oil here in the United States than there is there. But beyond that Lets take a look at fuel tax. Today there is $2.39 fed fuel tax on a gallon of gas, Diesel There is $2.39 plus a road tax of $.52 a gallon. You wonder why everything is so High Food, electronics,clothing,materals of all kinds thi is why. This is why so many people are out of work. The reason everyone passes this fuel and tax to the comsumers. Companys cant make a profit they lay off people this is why they are in busness to make money selling their goods. Al Gore said everything can travel by train it is cheeper. Ever seen a set of tracks behing WalMart? No 80% of everything travels by truck. the other 20% there is a truck involved with it to get from point A to B. They say History repeats its self. Reagan faced this when he got into office. Understand I am not putting a plug for Newt but he did get us out of it. Now days Congress and all of the Administration are out for what they can get, they want more money and they vote them selfs a rase and tells us about it later . They are all greedy everyone of them. Tell me something Do you trust anyone in office to take care of you and your familys needs? No I don't either. We don't need a big government. We don't need all these taxes where the rich only pays less than we do We need a flat tax. They need to cut all that fuel tax to what it was in 2000 $.68 cents a gallon. before 911 we don't need to police the world, putting our troops in harms way for oil and after it is over with they go back the way it was before boots were on the ground and it is all over oil. Is that worth one of their lives? No. Now we have Iran with their nukes threat. Isreal can and will take them out but the US Administration will not back them. Why? I have no idea either. We can our selfs with out having boots on the ground. with a push of a button right? Do you know Obama started 2 years ago dis assembling our nukes? You wonder who side he is on? You here anything about this from the Media? Think about this again Who do you trust. We Have Obama running again for another 4 years and paying for it with tax payers money. we have Santoram spending Millions wanting to be president as well as Romney. and they are backed by the Unions as well as Obama. They are doing this for a pay back and they will get their money back count on it. Ron Paul has strange ideas I agree but he is on the right track. We have low budget Newt will not give up I feel he will make a come back maybe. And they are all throwing mud for this job that they will never get their money back they have spent so far ever. Who ever is picked we all need to get behind him. Maybe they can pull all the damage back from what has been done these 3 years Just maybe maybe we can have a good one for a change. Even if it is Santoram or Romney maybe theye is a little truth in what they say.

      February 24, 2012 at 9:13 am |
  7. Todd

    I'm tired of the politicians using this as a weapon o vilify the other party. Oil and Gasoline are commodities. That means it will go to the people willing to pay the highest price. All of the oil companies do this. Any politician that tells you by drilling more will keep more of the oil in the US is a liar. Sarah Palin was supposed to know this. The US set a record for exporting more refined gasoline overseas last year. The oil companies will do this any time. And any Republican that syas we should drill mroe to keep more is being unAmerican because they would be willing to impose the power of the gov't on the free market by deciding what free enterprise can do. That's their Catch-22.

    February 23, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Steveo

      Whether under a Dem led or GOP led administration, we still handed out government subsidies to big oil! You are correct though! when you say one side vilifies the other over this. Funny whe bot sides are doing the same thing! Let me ask this question. The GOP wants to drill and the Dems want to go green. Green is not ready for prime time! What do you think we should do in the meantime?

      February 23, 2012 at 10:39 am |
      • Steveo

        make that.. funny when both sides...

        February 23, 2012 at 10:41 am |
      • Todd

        In my first sentence I said politicians, not a specific party. Both parties do it to each other. Later in my post do I specify that the GOP is riding the Dems about more drilling now. I hate them both.

        As far as what do we do in the meantime? You say Green isn't ready for primetime. The market determines primetime. If energy prices rise, the entry cost for green looks more reasonable. At some point when the green option has been chosen enough the cost per unit of energy decreases based on economies of scale. Will green reduce the cost of energy in the short term? No, because you don't have a green option at the same price point as existing energy sources such as oil and coal. Natural gas is the exception, but it is not used in large scale transportation. Green will catch up, but the market will determine how fast. You wouldn't believe how many manufacturers, distributors and retailers have adopted energy efficient options in their places of business. The companies can tout green in their advertising, but more importantly they see more green in their pockets for making the capital investments.

        To use an extreme example, when we entered WWII, US industry transformed overnight and we produced incredible amounts of goods very fast. If there was some sort of worldwide disaster, in several years we would probably be greener than you ever imagined after being forced to adapt. I don't wish that, but I am only making an extreme example.

        February 23, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
      • Steveo

        I appreciate the response Todd. My second sentence agreed with your first sentence! Green is still an infant technology when it comes to wide spread application! That is what I menat by not ready for prime time! I do believe over time and just like electronic technology, it will mature and become more affordable!

        February 23, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
      • Trace

        Steveo, in answer to your question; what do we do now....well, if you researched the facts you would have said, Obama has increased oil production over Bush levels: see below

        Big Oil politicians to ignore facts: U.S. oil production higher under Obama than when Bush left office
        October 13, 2011
        http://checksandbalancesproject.org/2011/10/13/big-oil-politicians-to-ignore-facts-u-s-oil-production-higher-under-obama-than-when-bush-left-office/

        Or

        Politifact ; Is Obama to blame for $4 gas??
        http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/is-obama-to-blame-for-4-gasoline/

        And the articles go on and on about how Obama has SUPPORTED an increase in crude production. So, Obama, against many of his "Tree hugger" supporters (which I am not), is taking a "all of the above approached" In other words, he's doing all he can to keep prices down.

        But let me guess....you wouldn't take the time to even find out the answer to your own question, nor would you support the president after he's doing all that can be done.... because YOU DON"T TAKE SIDES ....got it.

        February 26, 2012 at 10:32 am |
      • Steveo

        @Trace, take a few deep breaths. You'll be alright! Your ill advised assumptions about me are making you appear really silly! You want to credit the president for increased oil production? So does he also get the credit for increased gasoline prices too? I thought we already established the fact that a president has little (other than creating policy) to do with the economy! Which is it? If you credit him in one area, you need to blame him in the other!

        February 26, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
      • Steveo

        @ Trace,

        You said: "Steveo, in answer to your question; what do we do now....well, if you researched the facts you would have said, Obama has increased oil production over Bush levels: see below"
        -------------------
        Well in your hast to place a dunce cap on my head, perhaps you should have read my question a bit more carefully. "I did not ask what do we do now? I asked Todd What do you THINK we should do? As in in "Hey, Todd what do you think? Since you hammered me for not answering my own question, exactly how was I to research Todd's opinion, without asking Todd? I could have easily answered the question but that would not have been Todd's option but mine! Nice try Trace!

        February 27, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • John

      Todd, I am tired of politicians... I agree with you, it is a stupid argument now and it was stupid when the Dems were killing Bush over this.

      February 23, 2012 at 11:16 am |
      • Todd

        Not sure if there was any sarcasm in your post, but I'm tired of both parties.

        February 23, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
      • Mike in Bend

        John, the reason Dems were down on Bush is because his party's plan for our energy future, drill baby drill, was being chanted at the same time they were killing the message of efficiency. A politician is LYING when they promise cheap gas. Obama's plan of increasing efficiency for gas cars and increasing electric car production, investing in wind and solar and nuclear power and natural gas is the best plan I have heard anyone talk about. And, it is realistic.

        February 24, 2012 at 1:46 am |
      • Trace

        John,

        What is it with you "short term memory GOP" types? You are complaining that it was a stupid idea to blame Bush for it, but DO YOU NOT RECALL, that G.W Bush famously said "....Don't worry about the cost of the war in Iraq, It will pay for itself"??? Do you not remember that? It was stupid for him to say that, granted but to say Obama has made the same mistake...uh...no....GW Bush deserved it because people lost lives and treasure because of that mistake.

        February 26, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  8. Mike

    Someone explain/justify to me how the price of 1 barrel of oil going up by 5 dollars brings the price of gas at the pump by 20 cents. The oil companies have made HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars profit and people are justifying price going up because of the middle east. Oil price will NEVER go down to 2.50/gal even if the plan to extract oil from Canada to the US exist, simply because large corporations will profit from it. If price per barrel of oil was say 90/barrel, the oil companies will still make billions in profit even if gas price is at 2.50/gal. People are always blaming gas price on the conflicts in the middle east, given the fact that there has been conflicts there for the past 70 years or so. The majority of US oil comes from Canada and South America, only a very small percentage from the middle east via, companies like EXXON.

    February 23, 2012 at 10:57 am |
  9. dreamer96

    High gas prices...and the GOP has the backing of big oil...how much a mess that gulf oil spill was, and good old Haliburton was there...

    Remember how Enron ordered electricity power plants to shutdown, just to
    create high electricity prices....pure evil capitalism...

    February 23, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • dreamer96

      So is the top 1% going to buy up as much oil on the market that they can...to drive the price up and force out Obama...Do we still allow speculators to buy oil if they are not taking delivery of the oil and actually using it...We need to ban oil speculators from the oil markets if we have not already...buying up large amounts of oil to mess with the price or a country, should be illegal the world over...

      February 23, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
      • Jenny

        Thanks for your comment, often glerlaies sell a painting and I have no idea where it is going. I hope you enjoy it for many years too come.Jereme

        April 3, 2012 at 12:02 am |
    • jsmoulder

      Why are you not blaming Obama? If a Republican was in office you would blame him. You are a true liberal.

      February 23, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
      • John

        Good job jsmoulder. We need to call these libs on their hateful rants about the GOP.

        February 23, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
      • Mike in Bend

        jsmoulder, I say it again: the reason Dems were down on Bush is because his party's plan for our energy future, drill baby drill, was being chanted at the same time they were killing the message of efficiency. A politician is LYING when they promise cheap gas. Obama's plan of increasing efficiency for gas cars and increasing electric car production, investing in wind and solar and nuclear power and natural gas is the best plan I have heard anyone talk about. And, it is realistic.

        February 24, 2012 at 1:49 am |
      • Trace

        Obama was never stupid enough to attack and country that supplies 4% of the world oil market and say "the war will pay for itself" ...But guess what it wasn't a "librul" administration that famously said that my fellow "amurikan"

        February 26, 2012 at 10:40 am |
      • Trace

        @jsmoulder, and John,

        The GOP/Tea people must have the memories of gnats....DO YOU PEOPLE NOT RECALL???? ....GW Bush saying; The War in Iraq will pay for itself. ???

        A 5th grader could tell you that if you attack a country, like Iraq, that supplies 4% of the world's oil market, the price is going up. Secondly, if you think such a war that it will pay for itself, again somebody is sorely mistaken. But thirdly, What do you GOP/Tea Types revel in political jui jitsu, when clearly you don't have the facts on your side and as if we didn't just end a ten year war in Iraq having lost more than 4 thousand of this nation's finest men and women, with some 39 thousand permanently injured/disabled. Costing this country well over a trillion dollars, with interest, more like $5t.....But you guys continue to say stupid stuff. This is what makes it really hard for us lefties (or as you would libruls) as you people "yuk yuk it up" Get a grip guys !

        February 26, 2012 at 10:50 am |
  10. zombietimeshare

    Maybe the Won will issue an edict ordering the lowering of gasoline prices. As the constitution, laws, Congress, the fundamental principles of economics and reality have been regularly ignored it only stands to reason he will just demand it—he is the messiah after all.

    February 23, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
  11. Ted Brooks

    I can hear it now-

    "Not my fault....Tsunami....Iran...Oil Companies...Speculators...I'm doing the best I can to invest in Brazilian Oil....My energy policy....need to start driving the Volt...car pool...The rich need to pay for your tank of gas....

    Ahhh, the comforting words of Dear Leader.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • kitty

      remember 2011 was a bad year for tornadoes that affected everything this antichrist tried to do

      February 23, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
    • Mike in Bend

      The fault lays purely on the American consumer. As has been mentioned a million times before the POTUS of any party is not to blame for high gas prices. If you continue to buy gas guzzling cars and complain about high gas prices it your own damn fault! I dropped my fuel cost by over 110% by getting rid of my 17 mpg (at best) vehicle for a 43mpg vehicle. I, like many people thought that driving a smaller car could not handle my needs but, I was wrong. I have not missed my 17mpg one bit! When I need to haul something I hook up my trailer and happily haul away. If, like many people who need to drive a truck park it and get a commuter car. With gas prices going up the savings in gas can be your car payment. My friend listened to me and after his car payment, insurance, and gas he had $160 left over. Again if a person drives a gas guzzling vehicle with current and future gas prices going up it their own damned fault!

      February 24, 2012 at 2:03 am |
    • Trace

      So I guess its hard for the GOP/Tea Pots to hear facts that this president increased production more than Bush. Even with a spat of disasters, and the tree huggers telling him to shut it down. But of course you people ARE NOT, by any measure or stretch of the imagination, "intellectually curious" or have any interest in the facts. Just name calling for the president. I guess that's all you know...tsk tsk tsk! sad and pathetic.

      http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/is-obama-to-blame-for-4-gasoline/

      http://checksandbalancesproject.org/2011/10/13/big-oil-politicians-to-ignore-facts-u-s-oil-production-higher-under-obama-than-when-bush-left-office/

      Thank Good ness the majority of people can actually think...those that are faux non-news thought recipients...well, they've never met a fact they like.

      February 26, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  12. RKW

    He spins it to indicate his administration deserves the credit for that fact. The situation is exactly the opposite. The majority of the increase was due to:

    1) the development of the wells from the off-shore drilling permits issued prior to his administration.

    2) the development of the wells from fracking and horizontal drilling being done on private and State lands, something he has no control over.

    Moreover, the two things he could have done, approve off-shore drilling permits and approve drilling permits for federal lands, he refused to do. The increased production of domestic oil was inspite of his administration, not because of his administration.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
  13. Bryan

    Hey America, look! something shiny! Pay not attention to my screw-ups, it's uhhh, their fault. Did I mention I, uhhhh, inherited this economy? Did I mention I killed Osama? Did I mention that more freebies are, uhhh, on the way? Want a free kitchen? How about some free contraception? At no cost to you, of course! We'll make those pathetic bitter clingers and, uhhhh, evil rich people pay for everything you ever wanted. Don't even worry about it....

    February 23, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • jean2009

      Don't tell me let me guess...you are kitty's significant other?

      February 27, 2012 at 10:54 pm |
  14. kitty

    B. Hussein is not only a joke, he is a threat to the security of this nationi AND my family! He has purposely done away with any programs that wold actually produce jobs, as in the pipeline and oil drillng, while EXPORTING more gasoline than EVER! And yet, we have cBS and the other state-run media trotting out BS like this blaming the gasoline price gouging on their own pathetic lies! Unemployment has NOT gone down, but cBS is actually tyring to tie gas prices to it?! WTH?!! The American voter is NOT as ignorant as the state-run media thinks they are and this will all end come November. But by then, it may be too late. The Donks are DOOMED.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Mike in Bend

      Kitty, you have it backwards, the Republicans plan for our energy future will kill the American economy. Now that is a fact. Stop listening to Faux News and get the truth!

      February 24, 2012 at 2:07 am |
    • Todd

      Did your militia leader give you permission to post from his computer?

      February 24, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • Trace

      bawwa ha ha ha.....Run away from the Black Crazy guy in the WH...we're all gonna die! ! ! !

      Of course kitty, That could never be fear mongering or have racist over tones. But let me guess, you think that black people should still be drinking from separate fountains, and using different bathrooms. Right? LOL....Well you better stay right there in the trailer park, because unfortunately every where you go these days in this country, you're gonna see black people....I know I know "mommy mommy, I see black people" but those folks are here to stay...So you better crawl back under your rock and stay there until you meet your maker ...and that's a good thing for the rest of us.

      February 26, 2012 at 11:03 am |
  15. kitty

    Hope all americans feel the same and can see the total destruction of our country and our freedoms if this marxist gets in again.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • Trace

      Yeah...Obama a marxist revolutionary, communist, racist, bent on destroying in Kitty's words "amurika"...ruinng this great country for all the gud white folk.

      Go lay down woman, you missed the last half century called the civil rights era....the racism is ozzing out of your veins

      February 26, 2012 at 11:08 am |
  16. kitty

    Obama was quoted (it’s on tape) that he “wouldn’t mind if gas prices rose as long as it happened slowly and over a long period of time.” Obviously his policies have contributed to the dramatic rise in prices. In December of 08 gas prices averaged $1.69 but by December of 2011 that average jumped to $3.42. (source: BLS)

    February 23, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • Mike in Bend

      Kitty, You realize that the price was so low because the crash of the economy caused a major decline in demand and was only temporary. Supply and Demand look it up some time you might learn something about commodities. Blaming any president is absolutely stupid! They don't control oil prices and never will. Demanding cheaper oil will only make us use it faster depleting the world supply even quicker which will bring higher prices even sooner.

      February 24, 2012 at 2:15 am |
    • Todd

      OK Kitty. to refresh your short term memory, in December 2008 the markets were a mess and the economy was in shambles. President Bush had just signed TARP and Obama won the election because the economy was a mess. The Summer of 2008 gasoline prices were well over $4.00. And do you know why gas prices were less than $2.00 in December 2008? Because the economy was in a huge recession, there was a severe drop in demand for gasoline because people didn't have jobs or money, and because of the huge build up in reserves because people weren't buying.

      If you really have a disability that caused you to forget these major facts from three years ago I am truly sorry. If you are merely taking a snapshot in time and cherry picking facts out of context to build a straw man argument then you are really reprehensible.

      February 24, 2012 at 9:21 am |
      • jean2009

        Obviously kitty doesn't know how to connect the historical time line dots.

        February 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
  17. kitty

    The gas prices are just the tip of the iceberg. Read how Obama is letting companies replace American workers (high paying jobs)… so far, this year alone, 79,000 foreigners have been brought here on H1B Visas to replace US Citizens… and 400K H1B VIsas are already here…

    Read about it at:
    http://www.curiousinternet.com/2012/02/high-tech-jobs-in-america-feb-2012.html

    February 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • Todd

      And do you know why that is kitty? It's because the tech companies want them and need them because there is not enough educated Americans to fill those positions.

      I'm sorry. I have to stop. What was I thinking? you can't argue with crazy.

      February 24, 2012 at 9:26 am |
      • jean2009

        Yes, and GOP candidate Rick Insanitytorum thinks educating Americans to fill those jobs will make them elite snobs....not the educated workers who will need no visa to do critical work. The sad reason for visas for workers is the fact we do not currently have enough educated workers to do those jobs.

        February 27, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
  18. kitty

    Obama has shut down some of the free market. No drilling in the gulf. He closed down areas in the west for drilling, he shut down drilling research of the east coast unless it is 200 miles out, and he shut down the pipeline from Canada. Sometimes prices go up, and then they go down. Things in the middle east do cause prices to spike. But, they would not spike as high if we would drill here. If this administration, would stop always saying no to the things I mentioned above. To say Obama does not have something to do with this is just like you not blaming bush for the high prices when he was in there. Ohhh, and by the way, when Bush left office, I was paying $1.61… Hope and change?

    February 23, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • Mike in Bend

      Kitty once again your ignorance on this subject is making you look even more stupid. Stop posting from the heart and start posting facts. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

      February 24, 2012 at 2:18 am |
  19. kitty

    Thanksk Obama….you are succeeding in destroying our entire economy with your egregious and corrupt policies and agenda.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
  20. kitty

    Anybody, anywhere who voted for this loser is a complete fool. Anyone who votes to reelect him is nothing short of a moron.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • Todd

      Kitty, please keep pposting. You are singlehandedly doing more to reelect him than any of the GOP candidates combined.

      February 24, 2012 at 9:28 am |
  21. kitty

    Why is it that rising gas prices were bad news when Bush was in office, but it’s good news now?

    February 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Stephanie

      Does anyone ursendtand how the Republicans can continue to look a gift horse in the mouth?The Democrats leave themselves wide open by continuously harping on those big rich oil companies subsidies or tax breaks. While at the same time they express an innate desire to raise more taxes.The question is why isn't there a Republican wise enough to lay out in graphic form how much of that subsidy or tax break is needlessly spent to satisfy foolish regulations exacted against those same oil companies.The next question is why are the Democrats so opposed to developing our own energy, especially oil and gas industries? The treasury could be collecting hundreds of billions of dollars in taxes from those same companies and from the hundreds of thousands of oil and gas workers working in that industry.Some will say the oil companies would ruin our land and the air we breathe; they say that because they do not ursendtand the hydraulics of the atmosphere, they're undereducated. However, there can be little doubt that producing the energy here would be done under much better control than it is being done under in other locations of the world, plus the so-called risk to the environment would be reduced considerably by using the energy nearest to the market, and of course the energy now used to transport it would no longer be used.If the Republicans are actually on the side of the people but not smart enough to convey their message to the people, they might approach each one of the oil companies and have them make up a scale showing the estimated amount of oil they could produce domestically per year. They can also estimate the number of jobs in each category along with the estimated pay scale in each category. And maybe even the number of estimated spinoff jobs, if the government would stop blocking domestic oil and gas production.

      March 4, 2012 at 12:21 am |
  22. kitty

    Jay Carney’s statement that Republicans forced Obama to veto the Keystone Pipeline project is laughable. Do these Democrats really think the American people are that stupid?

    February 23, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • Mike in Bend

      No, but your are!

      February 24, 2012 at 2:18 am |
  23. kitty

    yes americans are that stupid. witness the current occupant of the White House. even with our country in free-fall decline Obama the Christ still has 45-50% approval. Just read that 49.5% of americans pay NO income tax. They will vote to keep it that way because Obama will BUY their votes with our money. send money to any and all republican candidates and vote, vote, vote to restore our country. it is the only chance we have

    February 23, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  24. kitty

    If this was happening under Bush the media would be screaming bloody murder every day about the price of gas. Obama gets yet another pass from the biased, clueless liberal media.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • jean2009

      National average price for oil today – Feb. 23,- $4.12

      National average price for oil -June 28, 2008 -$4.21

      February 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
      • John

        Jean – go find a price that was this high in February in the past. You are comparing apples to oranges. Just like when you posted the numbers for production and eluted to BO somehow being responsible for increased production, You know as well as all of us that this administration has done nothing positive to increase production. This is actually a place where libs can blame Bush (for the incresed production), but the libs won't. They prefer to give credit to BO even though he has done nothing – if anything he has hindered more production.

        February 24, 2012 at 7:12 am |
      • Todd

        John it has nothing to do with production and everything to do with refining. Refining hasn't changed in any appreciable manner in a decade.

        February 24, 2012 at 9:30 am |
  25. kitty

    Thanks Obama! Thank you for preventing domestic drilling! Thank you for preventing the Keystone pipeline! Thank you for preventing the construction of more refineries! Thank you for serving your environazi masters! Thank you, oh thank you for making everything (like food) that needs to be transported more expensive!

    I’m just overwhelmed with thanks. Friggin’ putz.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • jean2009

      The Keystone XL pipeline is not to supply America with oil or gas. It is to transport Canadian oil tar sands to the tax-free international zone a Valero refineries in Port Arthur, Texas so it can be sold to the highest bidder on the world market without paying U. S. taxes. Currently we buy 97% of Canadian oil. This is just an end-run around our taxes and our low captive market price.

      Basically a way for the Koch Brothers to transport the dirtiest commodity through the heart of our country and sell it to the highest bidder...tax-free.

      http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/aswift/keystone_xl_is_a_tar_sands_pip.html

      http://www.tarsandsaction.org/spread-the-word/key-facts-keystone-xl/

      February 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
      • John

        More production means cheaper prices for all. We should open up more drilling in this country – for this country. BO is against this while at the same time supports drilling in Mexico and Brazil for fuel going to China.

        February 24, 2012 at 7:14 am |
      • Todd

        Drilling in this country will not all remain in this country. Oil is a commodity. Don't you get it? The oil countries will sell it to the highest bidder. You can't add water to a barrel and then be able to keep track of that specific cup of water among all the other water. If you think for one second that the oil companies will gladly go along with keeping oil on America you are mistaken. And then I would ask you why you hate America? You would hate America because you would be interfering with our capitalistic free market system. So John, do you hate America?

        February 24, 2012 at 9:36 am |
      • jean2009

        @ John well that oil drilling by Shell in Brazil gets a big dirty rating....I bet Brazilians wish they hadn't.

        http://www.foeeurope.org/corporates/Extractives/shellbigdirtysecret_June09.pdf

        February 24, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Mike in Bend

      That oil is headed to China and will only enrich the oil refinery owners and a few temporary jobs building it. How about directing your anger somewhere else instead of your fellow Americans. Your hatred for your own countrymen blinds you of the real facts!

      February 24, 2012 at 2:22 am |
  26. kitty

    If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you’re not racist, please find someone else to vote for in 2012 to prove you’re not an idiot.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • jean2009

      Obama-Biden 2012-2016

      February 23, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
      • Mike in Bend

        jeean2009 Yeah!

        February 24, 2012 at 2:22 am |
      • Todd

        Jean you didn't just post Obama/Biden as the slate for 2016 did you?

        February 24, 2012 at 9:37 am |
      • jean2009

        The last I checked " – " means to: 2012 to 2016 actually it would be January 2013 to January 2017.

        February 24, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Trace

      Kitty,

      Have you seeked counseling for your paranoia about black people? Did you grow up around black people or is President Obama the 1st time you've ever seen a man of african decent? Do you watch tv or do you only listen to radio broadcast on the victrola?

      But the most important question, given how backward you are and lack of intellectual curiosity, how did you learn to turn on a computer and thereby being able post nacent paranoia about the president?

      February 26, 2012 at 11:14 am |
  27. oilmann

    Barry,
    $108/ BBL as of today. Keep up your miserable failure of your so called energy policy. Tell us more about SOLYNDRA & Beacon Power.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • Mike in Bend

      If you knew how much money you give oil barrons through your taxes you would be screaming at them. We pay for oil exploration through taxes. Europe on the other hand pays for it at the pump so the true cost is not hidden from them. If we paid for exploration at the pump you WOULD see $6-$7 gas right now!
      Fact: Energy prices will go up. Fact: Efficiency will make it affordable.

      February 24, 2012 at 2:28 am |
    • Matthew

      I’m simply miankg the point that, among all the pro-drilling arguments made, the argument that increased domestic drilling will lower the cost of gasoline at the pump (or moderate the increase in the cost of gasoline at the pump) has no validity whatsoever.We've argued this before, Larry. Your claims of no influence to at the pump prices for gas' by increasing domestic drilling are wrong. While I will agree that it won't be an independent action from the price of oil in the world market, the world market will be affected by an influx of supply into it. That is the case in all markets. Increase supply relative to demand, and prices drop. One needs look no further than the examples of OPEC increasing production, at the behest of many of it's customers, and the following drop in oil per barrel prices. That has happened many times in the past. The inverse is also true, when the supply is threatened, for whatever reason, prices increase.It isn't a direct action of increased domestic drilling affecting solely the prices in the U.S., and yes, other countries would benefit as well if our production were increased. At the very least, fluctuations in supply from unrest in places like Libya would have a significantly smaller effect on the price of oil in the global market. One big advantage of drilling at home that you merely gloss over is the economic positives in our own economy. Jobs and profits(invested at home) are no small potatoes, considering the current state of the economy. Instead of billions of dollars going to other countries' economies, some of that can stay home in the U.S., working for our own economy. This influx of dollars into our own economy could be the catalyst to further investment into green technologies that take our country away from an oil-driven economy. You cannot force technology advancements, and the current state of sending dollars to other countries, particularly those that rely solely on the oil industry, is not the answer needed. We, as a country, need more dollars freed up for reinvestment into our own companies, including those delving into green tech, and what better way to do that than build up our own oil industry at home.Reply

      March 2, 2012 at 10:41 am |
  28. kitty

    All Obama cares about is making his oil buddies rich. In the 2008 presidential election, Obama said he had no problems with $5 per gallon gas

    February 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
  29. kitty

    Since Obummer is a “former Muslim” it only stands to reason he would want his Muslim buddies to get more from the Christians. That’s what all that bowing was about. It’s part of the plan. Obummer is on the record saying he wants high gas prices. If Americans are dumb enough to reelect this Muslim sympathizer, there’s no telling what we will be paying in 5 more years.
    Never ever vote for a Democrat!!!!!

    February 23, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • jean2009

      Racist idiot.

      February 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
      • Mike in Bend

        I second that!

        February 24, 2012 at 2:29 am |
    • Trace

      If racism represents the ugliest part of this nation's history, then you and others like you are the warts we hope will soon cease to exist in this country. You are a terrible representation of anything that comes from this country ...an utter embarassment. You may hate black people or African Americans, but they are here to stay in this country. You may want to have them all leave, but I don't think that's gonna happen and I think it would be a waste of your time to even think it a possibility.

      So do yourself a favor and the rest of this country a favor, dry up, shrivel up and go away. This Country is better off without you and your kind

      February 26, 2012 at 11:21 am |
  30. Joey

    He mentioned algae today. Although there's plenty of it there's no current technology to use it immediately in vehicles. He never seems to give a straight answer about anything. Then we hear that almost 50% of the working population are not paying any federal income tax! I don't care if they only pay a penny out of their wages, at least pay something! For someone who lately is on the "fair share" kick, half of us paying nothing sure doesn't sound fair to me.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • jean2009

      Jan. 26, 2012 business green news
      http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/2141558/scientists-hail-algae-biofuel-breakthrough

      February 24, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Trace

      Come on Joey, I live in the hub of the Bio-Tech industry. We have more nobel peace prize winners here than any other place in the world. You can look it up and find out were I live. But suffice to say, the technology does exist. But don't you think before the president would say something like that, he might have some knowledge of it existing? Further, its quite possible he knows more than you...again, I would trust the knowledge of others familiar with the field infinitely more than your assessment and assumptions.

      February 26, 2012 at 11:25 am |
  31. jean2009

    http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-07-25/markets/30050314_1_alternative-energy-renewable-energy-industry

    In some ways green energy is not so much in its infancy as is the fact that as a start-up the initial costs for development are higher. As the price for crude increases the cost for going green will be more comparable.

    We basically have a two fold problem here....we are whining and grumbling every step of the way about the fact that China, India and Europe are willing to pay more for dirty energy than we are (which we cry cuts us out of that market). And the second fold of the problem is that those same countries (China, India, and Europe) are beating us hands down in going forward with green energy technology.

    India is willing to provide subsidies for the largest green energy plant in the world.
    http://inhabitat.com/largest-green-energy-plant-in-the-world-planned-for-india/

    China is planning to be # 1 in green technology.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/business/energy-environment/31renew.html

    European countries are currently #2.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_European_Union

    And all I hear is whining and crying that we can't afford to do this...what is wrong with this younger generation?

    For the love of mercy! How did we ever manage to put a man on the moon? It certainly wasn't from having a self-immolating pity party once Russia put a man in space...it was from getting off our duffs just doing it.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • Steveo

      Other than the defense budget, what would you scale back on to pay for green energy?

      February 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
      • jean2009

        @ Steveo. How pitiful!

        Back in 1957 when Russia put Sputnik I in orbit I don't remember Americans asking how will we pay for the space program. Oh yes, Eisenhower being a Republican wanted to play Sputnik down ...after all he had been caught with our national pants down. His administration may have played it down, but Americans guts feeling told them it wasn't good and we were in a race that we had to win.

        I also remember we hadn't paid off war debts for WWII and debt for the Korean Conflict, we were in an all out costly arms race with the Russians to see who could build enough warheads to blow us all to smithereens. We regularly did duck and cover exercises or built a bomb shelter, Cuba was rattling sabers and seeking to park Russian missiles 90 miles off the tip of Florida; China was hard line an with a ruling lunatic fringe at about the same point then as North Korea today...plus Vietnam and south-east Asia was building up steam for a big blow. No one said space exploration would be easy and cheap, who knew where the money would come from.... it just had to be done.

        That is exactly the situation we are facing today....you may not realize that but if you had a brain you would know it is exactly the same situation....strike when the iron is hot. Recognize this for what it is....energy is prime it makes the wheels of civilization go round, it is costly, and those who get their first as green technology develops will control the situation. getting there first will determine who wins this race.
        If we hadn't buckled down and caught up and surpassed the Russians today we just might be speaking Russian. Don't fool yourself...we absolutely are at the same crossroad of history either we move forward...buckle down and go all out on green technology, or we will find ourselves out maneuvered and left behind.

        How do we pay for it...cutting that bloated military budget is a start. Cutting subsidies for oil companies and using that money for renewable energy is another. Changing the tax rates for businesses is another. I'm tried of hearing corporation crying about our 35% tax rate being the highest in the world, when in actuality many of them are only paying a 12% rate after all their write-offs and breaks. How about a carbon tax on all other energy that is designated for researching and building new clean energy technology .... much as NASA built the space program.

        We forget just how much our lives today have benefited from NASA research and just how many items daily that would not exist had we not undertaken the space program. Everything from dialysis machines, CAT scans, cordless power tools and appliances, insulation and athletic shoe technology....there are about 1400 different inventions that are attributed to NASA since 1976. Inventions that have created whole industries. To think R&D for clean/green energy wouldn't do the same is to be very short-sighted.

        February 24, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
      • Steveo

        Jean2009,

        Pitiful indeed. Exactly how much did we owe China back in 1957? Tell me who did we borrow money from for the space program, Jean? Whether you want to recognize it or not something is going to have to give! I didn't ask for a history lesson. I simply asked what would you scale back on to go green! You answered exactly the way I thought you would (you mentioned nothing about entitlements)! How about cutting some from the Arts? Pee in a jar is not exactly an art form! You cutting back the military and big oil is a given! How about farm subsidies? We are paying farmer NOT to grow on certain lands! How about entitlements? How about Planned Parenthood?

        You may hate big corporations complaining about a 35% tax rate but realize that is chasing them out of this country, even Jeff Immelt (Obama's job Czar, also the GE CEO) is moving a GE division from Wisconsin to China! The AMERICAN JOBS CZAR is firing AMERICANS and hiring THE CHINESE! Talk about mixed messages! For that very reason this administion is mulling a plan to reduce it to 28%! Is this for real or just an election year manuever? BTW you can blame Congress for corporate tax breaks (BOTH PARTIES).

        Your cheap personal attacks are sad, Jean! I asked a simple question! It appears you don't realize the economy today is in poor shape! In textbook liberal style you want to tax everything that moves. No thanks!

        You said: "If we hadn't buckled down and caught up and surpassed the Russians today we just might be speaking Russian". Too funny Jean! So with all the money we owe China, we just might get ready to speak Chinese, right?

        Yes Jean, it is pitiful! Pitiful, indeed!

        February 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
      • Steveo

        Steveo
        Your comment is awaiting moderation.

        Jean2009,

        Pitiful indeed. Exactly how much did we owe China back in 1957? Tell me who did we borrow money from for the space program, Jean? Whether you want to recognize it or not something is going to have to give! I didn't ask for a history lesson. I simply asked what would you scale back on to go green! You answered exactly the way I thought you would (you mentioned nothing about ent-itlements)! How about cutting some from the Arts? Pee in a jar is not exactly an art form! You cutting back the military and big oil is a given! How about farm subsidies? We are paying farmer NOT to grow on certain lands! How about entitlements? How about Planned Parenthood?

        You may hate big corporations complaining about a 35% tax rate but realize that is chasing them out of this country, even Jeff Immelt (Obama's job Czar, also the GE CEO) is moving a GE division from Wisconsin to China! The AMERICAN JOBS CZAR is firing AMERICANS and hiring THE CHINESE! Talk about mixed messages! For that very reason this administion is mulling a plan to reduce it to 28%! Is this for real or just an election year manuever? BTW you can blame Congress for corporate tax breaks (BOTH PARTIES).

        Your cheap personal attacks are sad, Jean! I asked a simple question! It appears you don't realize the economy today is in poor shape! In textbook liberal style you want to tax everything that moves. No thanks!

        You said: "If we hadn't buckled down and caught up and surpassed the Russians today we just might be speaking Russian". Too funny Jean! So with all the money we owe China, we just might get ready to speak Chinese, right?

        Yes Jean, it is pitiful! Pitiful, indeed!

        February 24, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
      • Steveo

        Jean2009,

        Pitiful indeed. Exactly how much did we owe China back in 1957? Tell me who did we borrow money from for the space program, Jean? Whether you want to recognize it or not something is going to have to give! I didn't ask for a history lesson. I simply asked what would you scale back on to go green! You answered exactly the way I thought you would (you mentioned nothing about ent-itlements)! How about cutting some from the Arts? Pee in a jar is not exactly an art form! You cutting back the military and big oil is a given! How about farm subsidies? We are paying farmer NOT to grow on certain lands! How about ent-itlements? How about Planned Parenthood?

        You may hate big corporations complaining about a 35% tax rate but realize that is chasing them out of this country, even Jeff Immelt (Obama's job Czar, also the GE CEO) is moving a GE division from Wisconsin to China! The AMERICAN JOBS CZAR is firing AMERICANS and hiring THE CHINESE! Talk about mixed messages! For that very reason this administion is mulling a plan to reduce it to 28%! Is this for real or just an election year manuever? BTW you can blame Congress for corporate tax breaks (BOTH PARTIES).

        Your cheap personal attacks are sad, Jean! I asked a simple question! It appears you don't realize the economy today is in poor shape! In textbook liberal style you want to tax everything that moves. No thanks!

        You said: "If we hadn't buckled down and caught up and surpassed the Russians today we just might be speaking Russian". Too funny Jean! So with all the money we owe China, we just might get ready to speak Chinese, right?

        Yes Jean, it is pitiful! Pitiful, indeed!

        February 24, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
      • jean2009

        Farm subsidies great....go for it. The biggest recipients of farm subsidies are fortune 500 companies and 17 Republican and 5 Democratic lawmakers....check out Grassley, Latham, Bachmann. Rarely is it the little farmer that really might need a subsidy that is walking away with the big bucks.

        http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/03/30/republican-lawmakers-biggest-recipients-of-farm-subsidies/

        http://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips=00000&progcode=total

        http://articles.marketwatch.com/2011-10-14/commentary/30685947_1_farm-subsidies-farm-bill-factory-farms

        No to cutting funds for Planned Parenthood....that is necessary.

        We haven't had a balanced budget since 1957...so someone has owned our debt since then. Why do I think it is the fact it was taken from savings in FICA paid by us American workers....which you want to label as entitlements ....sorry you pitiful fool ....SS is not an entitlement. It is like the debt owed China a contract owed by America.

        http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/

        However, you are absolutely wrong in whining about China owning all that much of our debt. China does not own the biggest bulk of our national debt, yes they own some, but not as much as you seem to think. For some reason they seem to still feel it a good investment ....although I wonder when I hear the lack of get up and go in you young people. All you seem to do is whine about how hard you have it.....like you are the first generation to ever have an economic downturn. I was born in 1935 that was an doozy of an economic downturn.

        FYI – The bulk of American debt by and far is owned by the American people. Yes....us....we the American people we own the most of our debt.

        The last I checked good sense would behoove us to back our own country and keep letting what is owed to us be used to help in green energy research. Since seniors and SS are owed the largest percentage of that American debt, and I'm a senior. I think we should go with green technology for you kids...what do you say?

        This below from GPS

        We owe several countries $4.5 trillion dollars, but we owe ourselves $9.8 Trillion. Of that $2.67 Trillion is owed to the S.S. Trust Fund.

        Here's a quick and fascinating breakdown by total amount held and percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider:

        * Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
        * Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
        * Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
        * Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
        * Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
        * Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)
        * Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
        * State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
        * Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
        * United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
        * Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
        * State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
        * Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
        * U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)
        * China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
        * The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
        * Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)

        So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

        http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/21/who-owns-america-hint-its-not-china/

        February 24, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
      • jean2009

        @ Steveo you will need to wait for the moderator to post my reply. Still waiting!

        February 25, 2012 at 9:05 am |
      • jean2009

        @Steveo They aren't Farm Subsidies They are Corporate Welfare.
        http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/09/16/they-aren-t-quot-farm-subsidies-quot-but-corporate-welfare/

        http://articles.marketwatch.com/2011-10-14/commentary/30685947_1_farm-subsidies-farm-bill-factory-farms

        Who owns U.S. debt yes China owns some but the largest bulk is owed to U.S. citizens and most of that to the SS retirement fund.
        http://www.businessinsider.com/who-owns-us-debt-2011-7

        http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/21/who-owns-america-hint-its-not-china/

        The U S owes foreign countries $4.5 Trillion, it owes Americans $9.8 Trillion of that it owes the SS Trust Fund $2.67 Trillion. I think we can afford to go for green technology....which may just provide many ways to pay back all our debt.

        February 25, 2012 at 10:03 am |
      • Trace

        Steveo, I agree with jean...big shocker there. Let me put out a few platitudes that don't even require me doing the research:

        – Desperate times call for desperate measures...So we cut off oil subsidies and use the $4bn for green energy
        – Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country....its amazing what this country can accomplish if we set a NATIONAL goal and make the sacrafices to achieve it. Certainly find alternative sources of energy is a lot closer than reaching the moon was when Kennedy made this statement.

        Of course, I would anticipate you would be supporting the president on this or anything else because of your nacent neutrality. So let us know the view from the side lines – OK?

        February 26, 2012 at 11:31 am |
      • Steveo

        Jean,

        I strongly disagree with you Planned Parenthood but I will move on from there. First , I never stated I was against green energy. I have stated it is an infant technology and will over time mature.

        You said: however, you are absolutely wrong in whining about China owning all that much of our debt. China does not own the biggest bulk of our national debt. Secondly, I said nothing about how much we owe China! So, I am not sure where that came from! Thirdly, I never said SS was an entitlement! Why must you take liberties with my words! Stop assuming and just read what I wrote!

        Now Jean I noticed you said nothing about the American Jobs Czar but that is fine. I will leave you with this. I have not ever disrespected you and won't start now! How about the same courtesy? I keep hearing how liberals are so tolerant.

        February 27, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
      • Steveo

        Trace,

        I,m cool with you agreeing with Jean 2009. i have no issue with that. here however, is my issue. Why is it your business where I am politically? I have been on this site since Oct 11. I have stated I am moderate! I will back policy that agrees with my faith and conscience! Why are you surprised that folks actually have strong principles?

        Let me explain where I am neutral. I am not going to involve myself in the juvenile name calling! Too much of that already So now are you good with that? Actually it really does not matter if you are good with it or not. I am!

        February 27, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
      • jean2009

        @Steveo....then why start a comment with "Exactly how much did we owe China in 1957?" If you weren't whining about our current debt to China? Or, why end your statement with a comment about us all speaking Chinese? I don't see where I mentioned China in my first reply.

        February 27, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
      • jean2009

        Consider that in 2001 the 12 top recipients of corporate farm subsidies went to the following corporations: John Hancock Life Insurance; Westvaco Corporation; Caterpillar; Chevron; Georgia Pacific; Mead Corporation; International Paper; Archer Daniels Midland; Boise Cascade; Kimberly Clark; Eli Lily and Navistar. Do we really need to be providing them farm subsidy welfare to the tune of 82% of the farm subsidy program? Consider this is just the top 12 think of how many other corporations are also on that list such as: David Rockefeller;.Scottie Pippen; Ted Turner; Bob Dole's living trust; Ken Lay (Enron); Birch Bayh; and Kevin Appier...major league pitcher. Then remember this was a program originally designed to help the small and medium sized family farmer....not a bunch of greedy already well endowed corporations.

        With all the screaming about entitlements...I say let us start with the truly un-entitled and make our first cuts with them.

        February 28, 2012 at 8:49 am |
      • Steveo

        Jean2009,

        Perhaps I mentioned us speaking Chinese for the same reasons you mention the possibility of us speaking Russian? Whyis it all good when you do it but not Ok for someone with an opposing opinion to do it?

        Since when is making a statement the equal to whining? Yet again taking liberties with my words!

        Let me remind of my original question;

        "Jean what would you scale back on to pay for green energy"

        From there I got a history lesson on Sputnik and the possibilities of us speaking Russian? We were in no danger of speaking Russian anymore than we are of speaking Chinese. Yet when you make your statement, it's gospel and when I make mine, it is ignorant. Why is that?

        February 28, 2012 at 9:38 am |
      • Steveo

        @Jean2009,

        You speak of corporate welfare. You know what? I agree with you. Let get that done! The problem Jean is NO ONE and I mean NO ONE whether DEM or GOP has the political will make that happen! Why is that? Money! Corporate donations to BOTH PARTIES! So here is the real deal Jean, DEMS=hands off ent-itlements and the GOP=hands off the military! As one with moderate views, I see room enough in BOTH for a little budget trimming! Yes Jean both programs have bloated budgets!

        Both parties have sacred cows! BOTH! The left ONLY wants to slaughter the sacred cows on the right and the right ONLY wants to slaughter the scared cows on the left! BOTH PARTIES can and should do better. We deserve better but as long as the drones are satisfied, right?

        February 29, 2012 at 8:54 am |
    • Mike in Bend

      jean2009 you are a breath of fresh air (almost literally) because you actually know what is going on in the energy forum. I for one studied and continue to study the effects of our energy use in the country. Most people that have argued their point of view here are completely clueless which is sad. I liken it to "Hey we're going to drive off the cliff! Step on the gas!"

      February 24, 2012 at 2:35 am |
  32. kitty

    i really expected obama do a great job (considering all of his BS speeches) the one thing i did not want was to live in a communistic country!!! iam now more afraid than ever, he's not what he led us to believe,,he doesn't believe in our Consitution, considering he has trampled all over it,, he decides what he whats to do and does it and no one has stopped him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    February 23, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • jean2009

      Bimbo!

      February 23, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
      • Mike in Bend

        Again, I second that!

        February 24, 2012 at 2:36 am |
    • NOvember 2012

      I disagree with you...obama is very very clear in his books as to who he is...and he is doing what he intended to do. You need to study the person you vote for...this is important. obama is the sum total of his influences and associations...this is why he hits 9seals) his academic record, grades and etc.. If you studied this man you would not like what you find...

      You need to make a decision...do I want a stronger central govt (socialistic) or not... if you want the european model vote for obama. I can tell you that we are now experiencing the beginning of the obama care legislation...medicare refusals for surgeries and all that...and this will be in full swing in 2013 (planed for after the elections for good reason) and you won't like it...the rationing of health care...and you won't be able to do a thing about it. obama pulled $500,000,000 out of medicare...what do you think that means? It means seniors will not get what they have had...and this will be a very sobering reality soon...and don't believe anyone who says differently.

      February 23, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
      • Mike in Bend

        November2012 the real question is: Do you want a strong government (WE THE PEOPLE) or do you want to sell out to corporations and let them have control? We the people founded this country not the corporations!
        By the way, it's those corporations that continue to pollute our air, water and soil and stick the clean up bill on the US tax payer. I guess we can call you a sell out.

        February 24, 2012 at 2:41 am |
  33. Bryan

    Hey America, look! something shiny! Pay no attention to my screw-ups, it's uhhh, their fault. Did I mention I, uhhhh, inherited this economy? Did I mention I killed Osama? Did I mention that more freebies are, uhhh, on the way? Want a free kitchen? How about some free contraception? At no cost to you, of course! We'll make those pathetic bitter clingers and, uhhhh, evil rich people pay for everything you ever wanted. Don't even worry about it....

    February 23, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  34. NOvember 2012

    Oil is priced on futures...not what we have on hand...the replacement cost. It is the only way it can be done. obama is responsible for this spike to the extent of his inability to influence middle eastern leaders and politics...for over 60 years presidents have played a very difficult role in stabilizing the middle east...obama has a failed foreign policy. Even our allies don't know what to expect from us...the middle east is on fire. obama would like you to believe we are aiding the democratization of the middle east...we are not, these countries hate centralized govt are tribal/ethnic orientated. He knows this...so, the question is: why are we allowing this? Is it to drive up oil prices and destabilize the world economy? You tell me.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • jean2009

      Ever consider that it might be that the rest of the world is willing to pay a higher price for buying oil in the Middle East than we will, and that is the prime influence? Just like Canada wants to ship its tar sands oil across the American heartland to the tax-free international zone on the gulf rather than be stuck selling ti to us for what we will pay. Fact is we already buy 97% of Canada's oil....are you clueless as to why they want to take it clear to the gulf in the Keystone XL pipeline and do an end run around being a captive seller. Answer: U.S. tax free and sold on the world market to the highest bidder.

      February 27, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
  35. FLIndependent

    Between Kitty and NOvember's comments my head is spinning. You both are nothing but haters and could care less about the future of this country. Just like a true Republican, all you care about is the here and now. President Obama was voted in by the majority in this country (you know by the democratic system that we try to spread around the world), yet you Repubs can't for the life of you accept that. He hasn't stopped any jobs from being created as the facts say otherwise – 23 straight months of job creation. The Keystone Pipeline is a gift to the Repubs who are invested in it and their oil buddies – won't do a darn thing for gas prices here. We need to move forward in this country and think outside the box as the other industrialized countries are quicky passing us by. If Al Gore was President (instead of the slected GWB) our country would be well into the 21st Century by now but unfortunately we lost 8 years. President Obama is trying his best to catch up and then move ahead but with the obstructionists in Congress it's making things much more difficult for him. He will be reelected and hopefully with a Dem House & Senate again.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  36. FLIndependent

    One more thing, apparently those blaming the President for high gas prices weren't paying attention the first two years of his presidency when the prices averaged around $2.50 give or take. They started to rise significantly when the Repubs took over the House in 2010. Coincidence??

    February 23, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • NOvember 2012

      well...it is obamas presidency while the dollar fails, oil prices increase, looming war, and poor jobs reports....yah just can't blame President Bush for that...you goof ball.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
      • jean2009

        Well Nobrains that wasn't blaming Bush it was blaming the Republicans in congress since they took control in 2010.

        How about those 2 million jobs created in the last 6 months?
        http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/news/economy/january_jobs_report/index.htm
        Created more jobs in two years than bush did in 8.
        Oil & Gas Jobs Increased by75,000 under Obama-69,000 More Than Would Be Created By Keystone XL

        http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2011/04/obamas-created-more-jobs-in-two-years-than-bush-did-in-eight.html

        http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/01/18/406314/oil-and-gas-jobs-increase-by-75000-under-obama-69000-more-than-would-be-created-by-keystone-xl/

        http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/markets/auto_stocks/index.htm

        February 24, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
  37. Twainland

    It's no secret that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the American Petroleum Institute, among others, threatened political retaliation if the Keystone Pipeline wans't approved. I'm not a conspiracy theorist...just sayin'

    February 23, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  38. just say no!

    You can pound on your soap box all you want about gas vs green energy... No one is his or her right mind is going to think that in a snap of a finger the entire country is gonna go park their cars and go buy new "green" vehicles. New vehicles that use gas as it is are the equivelent of a mortgage anymore... and the green energy cars even more than that. While its great we continue to look into these items.. Gas is here to stay .. and it's here to stay for a while. Get over it. Since that is a fact.. lets provide for our current needs. If they want to offer some tax write off's to develop this new technology.. great.. but the government does not need to keep throwing money around with grants/subsidies like it's candy.. (Solyndra anyone?? or countless others).... I live in a state with over 10% unemployment.. That and the amount of $$$ that we all have to shell out should be more of a concern rather than what the next $ 30000 home improvement is to save energy.. or what 60000 car runs 100 miles on one charge... Not that many people are going to shell that $$ out for that.. no matter how much federal $$ is thrown at it.

    What's next? Are you environmentalist wakko's gonna suggest that the fed gov kick everyone out of their home in the country and forcibly move us all to higher population centers.. so we can all do the mass transportation shuffle?

    February 23, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • NOvember 2012

      with obama it is all about getting elected...there is no reason behind anything he has done...GM is a good example, a sweetheart bankruptcy deal that hosed the bond holders and favored the unions, they should have cancelled out the union contracts and did not...got to carry forward a $45,000,000,000 loss and had not interest payments to suffer through...so obama could brag about how much money they are making.... the corruption behind this green job mess should be prosecuted..holder and obama should go to jail...simply one big mess.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • jean2009

      No one said you have to park your old car and buy a new one. There are several sites that will teach you how to convert your old vehicle to electric in one day.

      February 26, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
  39. MRL342

    All the politicians are wrong. Solar, wind, hydroelectric are a waste of time, money and space. There is no such thing as clean coal, gas or oil. The only solution that provides adequate energy, clean energy and energy that can be used all purposes is nuclear. The nuclear technology we use today is far more efficient than combusting hydrocarbons (oil, gas, coal) yet, the nuclear reactors we are using today use uranium which isn't all that abundant and produces radioactive waste that has to be dealt with (increasing cost of production of electricity by this method). What's worse is you can use these reactors to make fissile material for nuclear weapons.

    Heres what needs to change: There are many new designs and types of nuclear reactors that this country has had the ability to pursue since the 1950's. However, we have not implemented these reactors because back in the 1950's we were very interested in nuclear plants that could produce electricity and material for the 10's of thousands of nuclear warheads that we have. The other designs were "back burnered" because they are unable to produce materials that can be used in weapons.

    Thorium is the real energy of the future. It is far more abundant than uranium. The Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR) uses Thorium in a Thorium-Fluoride salts fuel mixture and is far more efficient than the nuclear reactors we use today. The design has inherent safety mechanisms that are electricity independent ( Problems like japan tsunami doesnt effect these reactors ).

    To learn more, there is a fantastic informative video linked to YouTube at http://thoriumremix.com/2011.

    I truly believe that energy is the key to the majority of the United States' problems. I'm not calling for the immediate end of coal, oil and natural gas. We need to begin to phase these energy sources out and replace them with nuclear energy which will eventually be used to create hydrogen energy once efficiency issues are worked out with hydrogen.

    Just remember, every time you see a television commercial for "Clean Coal/Natural Gas/Oil" you are intentionally being misinformed. The energy companies are the most powerful entities in the world. They run this country. They have allowed wind and solar exploration to proceed because they know it will never compete with hydrocarbons ( provides less than 1% of our energy today, even with all the expansion ).

    They know that nuclear energy can end the oil, coal and gas industry.

    The American public should take the time to seek the truth about nuclear energy and how practical it really is.

    Good Book:

    "The Power to Save the World" – Gwyneth Cravens

    February 23, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • jean2009

      I couldn't agree more. We have got to pursue all options that will put us in control of the fuel we use, and the livable environment we want to pass forward.

      February 27, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • jean2009

      But green energy needs to be a serious part of what is done. To say wind, solar, wave and renewable energies are impractical is short sighted. Frankly other countries are making them work due to the fact that other countries are paying far more for oil, gas, and coal based technology than we are. Somehow I think we are about to see that change. As many more countries become more industrial the price for oil, gas and coal will all increase.

      February 27, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  40. jean2009

    Obama-Biden 2012-2016!

    February 24, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  41. Trace

    How-WEE, NobRains.....Can you people, just once...surprise us all that you have the capacity to think beyond bumper sticker stupidity and explain a policy, a counterargument to what President Obama is doing? We had people like you two in school. Whenever, someone achieved some measure of success, one of our teachers would recognize us for the achievement. But we all ways had under achievers like you two throwing spitballs in the back of the class. I guess you guys haven't come very far since those days.

    February 26, 2012 at 11:36 am |
  42. Txjack

    Obama will never do anything about the gas prices except let them rise.
    He has NO interest in having the gas prices go down.

    The only reason that Obama is sitting in the White House is:

    George Saros bought the election and put Obama in the White House.
    And his reelection has been bought and paid for again.

    Saros and Big Oil are raping us now and will continue to do so for the next 4 years.

    How else do you explain a Jr Senator who had to claim Child care credit on his tax returns.
    And now that he is in the White House is claiming Foreign Tax Credit in excess of 1 million.
    And he will provide detailed info on what they are.

    http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns

    The only president in history to claim Foreign Tax Credit.

    So explain that you Obama supporters I dare you. …

    February 28, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  43. Txjack

    Ya I did not think so.

    February 28, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  44. Clarice

    America consumes 20.8 precent of the oil produced in the world each year and 20.9 precent of the natural gas production. But we only have about 1.6 precent of the proven oil reserves and only about 3.8 precent of the proven gas reserves. We could tap all our reserves and we would still be importing oil. And, at our current rate of consumption and importation, our reserves are estimated to last less than six years. Six years is probably an exaggeration, but the above paragraph accurately describes the nature of the underlying problem. Misinterpreting the meaning of diagrams and tables in documents such as the Congressional Research Service's doesn't make that underlying problem go away. Our domestic reserves of economically recoverable petroleum would only be good for a decade or two at our current rate of consumption. Nor would full production have a significant impact on domestic gasoline prices. That's because prices are determined by a global market. Drill baby drill isn't really about long-term energy independence or lower gasoline prices. It's about a few private corporations exploiting our remaining economically recoverable domestic petroleum reserves for a decade or so of maximized profits. After which they're gone, and during which we will have failed to transition to sustainable alternatives. These people might just be the next generation's worst enemies.Reply

    March 2, 2012 at 10:46 am |
  45. Maerien

    You can legitimately argue it on baacnle of payments, but not on price at the pump. Releasing a glut of oil onto the domestic market from the strategic reserve will have a short term moderating effect on the price of gas at the pump ONLY because the US government is willing to sell the oil to refiners for LESS than current world market rates. But Exxon Mobil and BP won't sell the oil they drill for less than world market rates, nor should they be expected to do so, if you are a true capitalist. Venezuelan oil is dirt cheap for Venezuelans, because the government controls production and owns the oil resources and sells it at below market rates. Maybe that's how it will work in Brazil I don't know what the policies there will be.Maybe you think that there should be a law that all oil pumped domestically must be sold at less than world market rates. Something that's never been done. I'd like to hear your argument for this.With respect to JohnGalt's arguments in #36, simple math proves that US production has a negligible effect on world prices. We produce 9% of the world's oil. How much can this be increased realistically? To 13.5% (if we up production by 50%). That's trivial. And we consume only 20% of the world's production; so if we do the heavy lifting and work overtime to exhaust our own reserves, 80% of the benefit, cost of oil wise, will flow to the rest of the globe. Whether we have 2% of the world's oil or 4% or whatever, it's still only a very small share. Even at 9% of the world's production, we are burning through our reserves faster than the rest of the world, as a whole. Some day, we are going to be just like Japan and Germany. No more oil. It's a matter of philosophy, which I don't think can be argued strictly on an intellectual basis. Is it moral for the current generations of Americans to leave little for generations to follow? Is conservation really such an evil word or evil concept? I don't expect you to agree with me; I'd be happy if you could just understand that I do have a different point of view.- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CAReply

    March 4, 2012 at 1:56 am |