Washington (CNN) – The White House repeatedly maintains President Obama isn’t monitoring the day-to-day rhetoric Republicans fire at him on the campaign trail. But the president all but directly responded to Rick Santorum’s latest jab.
Over the weekend, during which the former Pennsylvania senator called Obama a “snob” for suggesting all young Americans should go to college, Santorum told supporters in Michigan, “Oh, I understand why he wants you to go to college. He wants to remake you in his image. I want to create jobs so people can remake their children into their image, not his,”
Speaking before most of the nation's governors at the White House Monday, the president appeared to hit back at Santorum’s comments without mentioning the Republican presidential candidate by name.
“I have to make a point here,” the president said. “When I speak about higher education, we're not just talking about a four year degree.”
“We're talking about somebody going to a community college and getting trained for that manufacturing job that now is requiring somebody walking through the door handling a million dollar piece of equipment, and they can't go in there unless they've got some basic training beyond what they received in high school,” he continued.
During his State of the Union Address last month, Obama said of the issue, "Higher education can't be a luxury - it is an economic imperative that every family in America should be able to afford."
Standing by his comments in a subsequent interview Sunday, Santorum said, "Barack Obama is a person of the left. He is someone who believes in big government. He believes in the values that are, unfortunately, the dominant values, and political values, and overly politicized values, and politically correct values that are on most college and university campuses."
Really? The GOP is now anti-education? What a psycho whack-a-doo Santorum is!
Since he's so against higher education, I wonder if Santorum will apologize for his degree and admit that he made a mistake in going to college!
LOL too funny :)
And a lot of good that did him...he's a still a half-wit
Was thinking that myself...do they ever hear what they're saying?
more likely that his college will admit that granting him a degree was a mistake. he's even making his grade school look bad.
He should admit the mistake he made by going to college and becoming a lawyer. Since everything he has been saying lately is so stupid, its nuts. How can someone with a Law degree be so insane. He is so far right, he might be extinct soon. Lets hope so
Well he obviously resented this "liberal leftist college professors." My guess is that he took a biology class where he learned that science isn't based on his religion, then took a history class where he learned about the Founding Fathers being Deists, then took a political science class and learned that we really don't have a theocracy. I guess he just felt so abused when he was held to a higher scholarly standard. Don't you feel so sorry for him. Things would be so easier for him if we had a right wing religious Taliban in charge. They could burn all those heretical books, arrest those "liberal" professors, destroy those evil science labs and set the young minds of America straight with some good religious "truths."
Kerrekt; Bachelors' from Penn State, Master's from U. Pitt and a DOCTORATE in Law from Dickenson.
DOES SANTORUM HAVE DAUGHTERSK SONS OR NEPHEWS WHO ATTEND OR GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE AND UNIVERSTY"? IF SO, WHY DID HE FUND THEIR STUDIES? OR DOES HE GIVE HIS KIDS A SUPERIOR LEVEL? WHILE HE RELEGATES AVERAGE AMERICANS TO ILLITERACY OR LESS EDUCATION? HOW WEIRD!
No, he was referring to other people's children. Not him or his elite off spring.
Eeducation didn't do Santorum much good. He should have left it for someone wiser. By the way, Barack was born a mix-race kid with a mother on food stamps. To suggest he is a product of a rich up-bringing is misleading. Santorum, on the other hand probably did have a well-to-do family, although I haven't checked. He oozes spoiled upper-middle class.
Thanks for the LOL.
If he makes remarkes like these, I'm not sure he even warmed a seat while enrolled.
his undergraduate degree – his JD ... AND .... his MBA
Will he be pulling his six kids out of college and returning his own 3 degrees as an example? I didn't think so. Do as I say, not as I do, the gospel according to Santorum.
He can always rescind his degrees.
Here's an idea. Have Ricko's kids withdraw from college and get a job they are properly qualified for. After all, I bet even they can be trained to say "Would you like fries with that?" and "Does that complete your order?"
Actually, Sanitorium would have three apologies to make, one for each of the degrees he holds (including a law degree).
What do you mean "now"? The GOP has been anti-education for years.
That is how they keep the masses voting for them. GOP=Keep them barefooted, ignorant and if a woman pregnant..
The educated voter threatens them.
OF COURSE, A HUGE MAJORITY OF UNEDUCATED VOTERS CAN BE EASILY CHATED AND THEIR VOTES STOLEN.THE RICH NEED MILLIONS OF WORKERS WHO EARN LITTLE AND DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
True. The republicans began their assault on education over 30 years ago when they determined that uneducated and poorly educated people are easier to deceive and manipulate and they have done an impressive job of orchestrating our decent to the bottom of industrialized nations. There was a reason why the Catholic Church forbid literacy among the serfs in the Dark Ages and why Slave owners were willing to destroy their property if it learned how to read.
I agree – when I was in college it was very difficult financially. I was not the traditional student as I was older with dependent children. At the time I did not qualify for food stamps. It was the Republican administrations, 1986, view that college students did not need food stamps or financial aid because their parents could provide that. I was lucky to qualify for academic scholarships which helped me get my degree. Others were NOT so lucky.
These are some of the most ignorant comments I've seen yet! Do you have any idea who the poor and uneducated vote for (barefoot and pregnant)? Look at the ten largest cities below the poverty line and find out how many republican majority governments they've had.
By the way – we spend more on education than any country in the world! Money isn't solving the problem. The problem likely arises from ignorant people – particularly those that become parents and expect the government – e.g. schools – to raise their kids.
Holy crap you people are clueless. The GOP are not anti education. We are anti-entitlement. Everyone expects to be entitled to everything but that is far from the truth. However, we are entitled to the opportunity to the persuit of happiness.
Nice comments! It is not a money issue! Just like normal, the left runs with this and attempts to paint an entire party on the sad comments of ONE MAN! Politicans from time to time make ill advised comments. Well folks Santorum's comments are his! I remember a certain president making a ill advised comment! The results of that was a BEER SUMMIT! Problem is when you mention that, you are labeled a racist! The entire DEM party was not liable for Obama's comments! They were HIS! Once again, the Dems want to have it both ways!
Jean2009, sorry that's the DNC motto, plus walk five steps behind, and if your over 65 hurry up and die.
Um, Lizzie did you even read the article? Here let me make it easy for you.
If you can't understand that you don't want to understand.
@Lizzie On the way to the 20th and 21st Century a strange think happened, the philosophy of the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln changed place with the Democratic party of Abraham Lincoln's day. Today Abraham Lincoln would be a liberal progressive Democrat from Illinois. Today most governors and congressmen of the old south are Republican and the redneck, bible-thumping attitude that goes with that is heavily represented in southern states....sorry for the world today....you are wrong, and I am right.
GOP= keep them ignorant, barefooted, and if a woman pregnant.
What do you mean "now" against education? Ever since Paul Weyrich in the 1970s spawned the Heritage Foundation and the Moral Majority (which in turn spawned Jerry Falwell) to plan the kidnapping of the Republican party by religious fundamentalists, the GOP has been against education. If you get educated you become enlightened, you can form your own opinions, and you learn the logical and elegant impartiality of science, all of which religion has a really hard time with.
Isn't that a dangling participle?
YES, I AGREE. WEALTHY OWNERS SEE EDUCATED APPLICANTS AS A DANGER. THEY DO WANT SPECIFIC TECHNICIANS FOR VERY NARROW OR SPECIALIZED FIELDS, BUT NOT WELL-ROUNDED WIDE KNOWLEDGE THAT INCLUDES PHILOSOPHY, PHYSICS, HISTORY, PSYCHOLOGY AHD SCIENCE.
Tsh...Wolf, go ask your plumber or mechanic about philosophy or science and he will laugh in your face charging you an extra $100 a hour. If everyone goes for higher education as Pres.Obama suggests who will do all the jobs it takes to get your hand dirty, ROBOTS. But then you rather pay someone oodles of dollars because your to smart to do it yourself.
Yep...keep them ignorant and mindless. Goes back to slavery when a slave caught with a book or learning to read was whipped or even killed. With a educated nation the GOP in it's present form will cease to exist. I know I know Who will pick the cotton?????
Lizzie – either you did not read the article and never heard President Obama's comments, or you are being intentionally dishonest. The President clearly included vocational training, community college, apprenticeship, etc... in his comments – not just 4 year college. Read the article and listen to the presidents comments (he has been saying this same thing since 2009). I suspect you already know this and are being intentionally deceitful, as is Mr. Santorum – unfortunately all to typical of the GOP when it come to this President.
The republicans are crazy, the cry about jobs going to India but get upset with our president when he wants our children to have the chance to go to college.
How did the Catholics managed to controlled the masses during the first few centuries of their existence? They limited access to the knowledge from them (in this case the Bible). How doe Middle Eastern terrorist cell gather the young to become suicide bombers? They limited the teaching of Koran, cherry picking the best of it to encourage violence and a beautiful afterlife. How will the Republicans keep the Tea Party and youngster avid followers? Keep them stupid and restrict access to education. Mankind will continue to be sheep until they are united in the goal of educating themselves and learn to think for themselves, as opposed to whatever cult of personality.
In pre-Civil War America it was illegal to teach slaves to read and write. Just think what they might do if they had an education....maybe think about freedom?
No Early World History in your education, huh? The Catholics (everyone was "Catholic" back then) held their services in the Catacombs of Rome and any other hidden place where they Romans couldn't find them. They were persecuted for the first 3 centuries. Kind of like today, but much worse.
Southern Celt, you are being willfully obtuse. It is clear that Jack_of_the_arts is talking about the several hundred years of the early Church after Constantine- a period we call the Middle Ages. The Church had a firm hand on everything then, and education was very limited. A basic literacy was fairly common, but anything beyond that was not. Unless you were going into medicine, law, or the clergy, that is.
Oh- and Christians in the western world are NOT being persecuted. They are the majority. They can go to their houses of worship without impediment. They can acquire religious books- including the Bible, the Koran, the Book of Mormon, etc- freely. They can pray privately without restriction. They can speak about their faith and witness without being arrested. They can lobby members of government and exert influence on policy and law. When yours is the cultural standard, you don't get to claim persecution. And being told that you can't force your faith on others is NOT persecution.
If you want true persecution, look to places in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia, where the above practices of religion are in fact illegal, and where people are abused, go to jail, and even die for their faith. That is real persecution and is worthy of notice.
Jean, apparently you flunked history or have rewritten it, the democrats been against educatiing the slaves or heavens forbid freeing them, it was the republicans who fought for that.
Please explain how Catholics -or any Christian denomination- is persecuted today in the US.
It seems to me that the definition of persecution has been lost, skewed, or otherwise hijacked to fit an agenda. Maybe it's time to bring back that old time persecution? Release the lions!
Oh, by persecution you mean that the majority of citizens won't allow a theocracy? Well, yeah, now I understand how this ties in to the GOP's "war on education". How better to control (enslave?) a population than with religion and ignorance?
You are correct Greg. Each time he opens his mouth, something dumb and stupid comes out. Where do these guys come from? GOP. GONE OFF THE PLANTATION.
yea,Mr.Santorum is a nut case ,needing asylum .I have a question if college education is not needed ,why he got college degree?.He should be teaching in church
Of course he is against education. Education leads to independant thought. He would much rather have legions of uneducated low paid men working and barefoot pregnant women at home.
This Santorum is a mean, spiteful, idiot. Just the kinda guy we DON'T need as President!
I agree, his personality and his failure to believe in separation from church and state should legally disqualify him!
Santoram is a nut case. I have lost all respect for him with his 'snob' comment. I cannot believe that he would make such an assinine comment. The drivel. This is the guy that is leading polls? God save this country! He is in the sme league as Palin who had a problem with educating kids to eat healthy! The IDIOT! That should be the name of his movie!
Hey, I don't believe in a higher education IF and I mean IF all you want from life is a minimun paying job, the joy of trying to pay your rent, heat, lights, food, clothing etc. Also, you never want to own your own home. Nah, just party hardy and have fun all the way to the poor house.
Obama needs to get concerned about the high school graduation rate and the dumbing down of the curriculum in high school and college.
Amen! Students are coming into college not prepared at all. Their writing and communication skills are terrible, they want everything handed to them, and they wait for you to give them directions instead of actively seeking out answers because they're actually passionate about something. Where has all the competition, and joy of learning gone? Well, you can thank the GOP for that. Dumbing kids down, one at a time! (and their parents too...)
Strangely enough, he is. However, the power to affect these things lies largely in the hand of the state governors, many of whom have other agendas, or are facing massive budget problems. You want change in K-12 education? Talk to your state legislators. Write your governor. Don't blame the President.
Obama signed an executive order freeing the states from the No Child Left Behind, it is now left to the states to decide whether or not to continue following it. Also, Obama can't do anything about graduation rates, children will continue to drop out when they loose the drive and ambition to learn. When parents stop standing on the sidelines and help keep that motivation to learn in their child, is when you see the graduation rates change.
Keep'em in college-they won't count against the unemployment rate.
Way to take it out of context. I don't support Santorum for President. Nonetheless, it doesn't surprise me at all someone would spin what he said this way. And, even less urprising, all the sheep that follow!
Perhaps Santorum would prefer that we do not manifest the power and ability to acquire knowledge because then we all would be informed exactly what his name means..... butt juice! xP c'mon laugh.
The GoP isn't anti-education.
Being a Republican myself, I'd say that Santorum needs a good backhand to wake him up.
ritnocojo....be nice...but you are right.
No, that's just Santorum's opinion. I was raised to believe that all kids should aim for college. It is unfortunate that some just aren't cut out for it, but those that are should be encouraged by more reasonably priced colleges. Greed infects our Universities as well as our Government.
The Republican party isn't "now" anti-education. They've been that way for decades.
He's against himself, too, then.
Santorum attended Pennsylvania State University for his undergraduate studies, serving as chairman of the university's College Republicans chapter and graduating with a Bachelor of Arts with honors in political science in 1980. He then completed a one-year Master of Business Administration program at the University of Pittsburgh's Joseph M. Katz Graduate School of Business, graduating in 1981.
The GOP isn't anti-education...just Santorum...please don't confuse that link. I have 12 years of college and my wife has her Masters.. Now we both teach in the public school system. I am all for higher education and public education. A lot of Santorum's views on education are completely different from mine...yet I am a Republican...and originally supported the TEA Party movement until the extreme Republican base and the libertarians took control of a lot of TEA Party groups. Much like the extreme Democratic base, anarchists and Anonymous have gained much control of the OWS movement.
As I teach my kids in school...just because a skunk is a mammal, doesn't mean that all mammals stink like a skunk. Maybe that's something that all people should remember.
"Really? The GOP is now anti-education? What a psycho whack-a-doo Santorum is!"
At the risk of sounding snarky, did you just turn the TV on for the first time ever? The GOP has been anti-education for ages.
We really need a sarcasm mark as a standard character on our keyboards....
On yet another issue you libs are either completely ignorant or are totally disingenuous on this issue. You libs missed yet another point. The point was that people can and do succeed without college and to say they do not (libs) is totally snobbish.
I don't know too many successful doctors, lawyers, engineers without a degree....
no John you missed the point.
Not in this economy they don't. You need some kind of training. If you can't get a 4 year college degree at least get a trade like home health aide, CNA, patient care technician who start people off at 16 dollars in hours. the county college in my town offered them for free. That's what he was talking about. If a kid graduate high school right now with no job training or a trade where is he gonna get a job?
The GOP likes to keep the masses uneducated and gullible because it eases the indoctrination of GOPs special brand of reality and factiods. Belief is better than knowledge. Science is just an opinion. Religion is the God-given truth. Education is a road to perdition for it leads to questioning faith and hence is the devil's work. So shall it be.
he really is
This guy Santorum is a total wacko. Basically he is saying....people who go to college actually think and realize that my social/religious views are stupid. People who don't or are as dumb as rocks will agree with me because they know no better.
Obama is a thinned skin tyrant, who can dish it out, but can't take it. I can't wait until this radical, racist, anti-American, poor excuse for a President, is kicked out of the White House !!!
There there....calm down in your cage....you didn't take your medication again this morning did you?
"He believes in the values that are, unfortunately, the dominant values" that is almost as stupid as blaming something on the "Main Stream Media" . Main Stream is where most of us are. There is nothing unfortunate about the dominant values, nor is there anything wrong with the media being main stream. Has anyone else noticed how hateful our media became after Fox came on air? Pity, real pity.
Why do republicans go out of their way to make being educated or skilled at anything sound like a bad thing?
You have it wrong. Why do BO and the libs think college is the ONLY way to go? Successful people without degrees, including many, many successful business owners, are insulted by BO and comments like Patriot A guy..
He never said that, John. Did you bother to read the article before responding, or is that a skill only snobs have?
Oh please, we all know those people are the exception, not the rule. To try to claim anything other is just being disingenuous.
They're insulted? Oh no! Did they cry? I hope they didn't cry. Why is that darn Obama always making people cry with his comments that people should be educated? How selfish and snobby is that darn Obama to think we need to be educated? Why can't he understand that some people like being dumb because it's easier!
And Howard, it's good to see that someone is finally standing up to those Bully College Professors. Who do they think they are teaching people stuff, from books no doubt! God if only we still lived in a society where we burned books and crucified people for being educated, than people like John and Howard could be in peace...
I'm so mad at Obama for making those successful business owners with obviously no education outside high school so angry and insulted! If he made them cry, I will never vote for Obama again after the 2012 election.
I second The Real Tom Paine's comment lol. Cedar Rapids is right too.
You are just another one of those "say and do the opposite of Obama" puppets.
The guy you refer to, the person who built your house, being worth millions? Doubt it, more likely on paper which can easily be taken from you unlike an education which stays with you for the rest of your life. If he is so fortunate as to be so wealthy, God Bless him. There are several millionaires in the NBA (think Allen Iverson) who can barely read or write. These are exceptions to the rule. Jobless statistics show that in this "new economy", the unemployment rate among those with a high school degree or less is well above 30%. By the way, I'm pretty sure "the guy who built you house" is licensed and bonded (I would hope you would have the good sense to make sure of that before giving him a nickel.) Where do you think that license came from? Likely, a trade school or a community college. This is exactly what the President was referring to in paragraphs, 4 and 5 if you actually read the article.
BTW, Santorum, ever the hypocrite went to Penn State for his undergraduate studies, has a law degree from Dickinson School of Law and just for more "higher education" has a MBA from the University of Pittsburgh. Maybe, he's just jealous because he couldn't get into Harvard Law School, elected President of the Harvard Law review and graduated magna cum laude. In case you didn’t know, magna cum laude, means with great honor. Honor certainly seems to be in short supply with Santorum unlike jealousy which he seems to be full of. Compassion is another word he should look up. For such a religious, caring man (as he pretends to be) to give charitable contributions of less than 2% while making over $1,000,000 last year is appalling. The President gave nearly 15%. Tell me know who is the better Christian?
That's not what Obama said and that's not what liberals think. The problem with conservative hacks like you is that you do not think. You fire off sound bites without even bothering to read the article.
That's a standard GOP complaint in an effort to disguise their attack on education with attacks on anything Obama says. Santorum is creating arguments out of his own twisted mind.
He never said that!!! Read the article and stop spreading those lies...
Ok... lets' just say you are right. Please give me a percentage of people without Associate or Bachelors degree who are very successful compared to the ones who are not successful... See the difference?
You are a sick individual..Why shouldn't the President take up and issue such as encouraging middle/high school students to strive for higher learning, which means going to a vocational,/2/4 year college. Yes there are some gifted individuals who have been very successful, and haven't gone to college. Your racist horns are showing. His objective was that if desired all young people should have the ability to be able to handle the financial strain that if not born into money college brings for the average middle class family..
I am not a fan of Obama or for that matter Santorum but have to agree with the president here. Education is never a bad thing and Santorum shows his ignorance when he says that Obama is trying to force his values on the people in this case.
Sure, you can be very successful without a degree, but you have a much better chance of career success with one, I can tell you that. John's problem extends way beyond just an education, though.
No they're not.
John, please read the article again, I think you may a missed a few things.
I don't think English is John's first language – he can't tell the difference between "should" and "must"
IIt's official: Republicans are the most thin-skinned people in the universe. Always whining.
ur an idiot
Santorum is the snob! He got his education, but now he's against higher education for everyone else. Republicans-you gotta love em!
if you knew ANYTHING about they way economics work, education is investment in human capital and probably THE most effective way of securing a skilled workforce and prosperous future for our country....to say its something "snobby" or "elitist" is the dumbest thing ive ever heard and is precisely the reason why we need more access to education...people who attend college are less ignorant and more able to choose a real career, not a construction or manual labor job because its the easiest way out.
those people are EXCEPTIONS and almost all of them will say go to college. Dear lord, perhaps your not going to college has addled your senses. An educated American populace is perhaps one of the only real buffers we have against competition from other nations such as India and China.
Now a days a higher education is needed, more than high school diploma. You do not have to have a college degree.You may need a technical diploma if you want to go into manufacturing. If Santorum's ideas and intimations don't seem whacko to you, my friend you need to be pshyco analysed. The man is paranoid.Very strange man.
LOL....and isn't John the one who keeps praising Laura Bush because she wanted children to learn how to read...and now out of the other side of his mouth he is chastising President Obama for his wanting children not only to learn how to read, but also to go to college and get a higher education. Johnie you are one GOP whacko!
Sorry John, you really sound like an idiot with this one. I know you want to defend your party, but this is a no go. Everyone should have the chance to go to college. How is that snobbish?
Wow... this might be the most ignorant response I've ever read. Are you really complaining about someone who is pro education??? Enjoy your nugget cooking days at McDonald's.
Yup. John is one of the people OB was trying to help; an uneducated lame brain. Never gonna learn nothin!
I agree with that as much as I agree that going to pre-school, elementary school and high school are all unecessary. Just teach tennis, golf, football, baseball, basketball, hockey and let them all take acting lessons. Everyone who does these things goes on to make tons of money. Forget education!
John, if you think calling someone a liberal for saying Santorum is dumb is most likely an idiot. Every President and intelligent person knows the majority of citizens will be better off with an education. Whether its a 4 year college or vocational school it is important for a persons future as well as the countries. Otherwise foolish statements by Santorum and you may be taken as truth, when in fact they are so foolish an educated person can take them for what they are, stupidity. Thank goodness for education.
No, you are defending and indefensible point. Education, whether a four year degree in the Arts and Sciences or a two year degree in a trade, or even just training for a job are all part of a "college education." Only an idiot would accuse someone of wanting educational opportunity for Americans to be a "snob." I grew up on a farm, worked with my Dad who was a plumber and a farmer. I chose eventually to go to college where I had a very good career after getting one of those "useless and snobbish" degrees (actually a Masters). Now I'm retired, but I never forgot the lessons I learned on that farm or crawling under houses with my Dad as a plumber. I do all my own mechanic work on my vehicles and power equipment, except when I encounter integrated computer circuits or more complex problems where I need more technical education. And I do my own plumbing and electrical work on my home – except when I encounter problems beyond my understanding where I need a technical education. And I do my own welding – except when I encounter problems beyond my skill sets. And, I even do my own Vet work around my small farm (and even most of my own health care work) – except when I encounter issues beyond my education. Oh, by the way, I spent most of my professional life helping get adults educated in the community college system. Most of those adults – some young and some old, simply came to understand that they needed some level of advanced education to compete. Santorum's attack either is just political positioning, which was a stupid comment, or if he really believes this – oh well, then he is just an idiot.
Unsuccessful people without degrees such as the 3.5 million that experience being homeless a year are insulted at your comments.
Many business owners are saying they can't find enough educated Americans to fill the positions. We have a shortage of family doctors, and ob/gyn's. We have a shortage of engineers. I had a friend who did the hiring and said 200 people would apply and they might get 3 that quailfied to be interviewed. Another friend said the people he hire all have to be trained, and in his business that means a lot of waste and breakage while they are learning on the job. Some businessmen have begged Congress to increase the numbers of work visas so they can get qualified employees. The answer is education, and it does not have to be a 4 yr college, it can be trade schools, or apprentice programs. Many unions used to have apprentice programs, many other businesses had them. Re-education is very expensive, especially when you are trying to support a family, but many of the jobs are gone. Look at the car industry, they have tightened up and now use more robots. The cars are also more complicated than they were. You used to be able to take ordinary tools in your garage and repair them, not any more.
John, it appears you've been brainwashed, but that happens to the uneducated. Sorry.
John you're a certified MEATBALL
jhon are you kidding me?........your comment proves we need to increase our education system.......
Don't worry, John, all these sheep just need something to be passionate about.
John read what president said before you come out with your comments. Very few uneducated. People have done good but with education u have the world
bee, if you saw what color I am you would feel like the fool you are. The spin the left has put on this issue simply shows who they really are. My nephew is a police officer at a pretty high level. He did not attend college. The millionaire who built my house (and many, many others in So NH did not attend college. Of 5 children who were raised in my house only one attended college. All are doing well with good jobs.
The way you libs spin issues for each other (because the repos and independents ignore what you say) and it makes you a laughing-stock...
We as American have been told for years to aspire for higher education because it gives us the best chance to compete in a global market and now theres a GOP Presidentaial candidate that's against that! Lawd help us all! He is not Pro America he is Anti Obama..He gives this sinister smile every time he's asked to clarify a statement referencing any topic he says against the president..He's the lowest of low!
If most College professors and politicans, came down out of their artificial towers, and tried to make a living in the private sector, they'd stave to death !!!
But, they'd know how to spell "starve"!
Its ivory towers, not artificial towers.
And what has their likely performance in the private sector have to do with how they teach? Oh don't tell me, you subscribe to the 'those that can, do' mindset.
Is learning to spell being a snob too? lmao
thats right howard! leave that book learnin' alone, to dang hard with all the readin' and stuff.
or i guess get the republican nomination, right newt?
Tell that to the many college professors who have translated ideas in the lab/classroom into successful businesses. Possibly you don't know what you're talking about...
You are naive. Most college professors double or triple their salaries if/when they leave academia.
Howard I see you that you have been drinking today!!!
You do realize that many universities and colleges are private, right? In fact, most of the elite schools are.
I can't believe how many people come on these forums and use the most absurd arguments to blast education. There's nothing snobby about getting your facts straight - it doesn't even require an advanced degree. My father only has a high school diploma, yet he can read, write, and reason as well as anyone else. He understands the value of education and training for advancement in today's growth sectors. It's just common sense.
I think we just found the next Republican nominee for President...Howard.
I wonder if he can squeeze out another comma in his comment.
@ Howee.....I took a few minutes to looked up one university and the first that came to mind was Stanford University. So, I Googled it at: Wikipedia to see just which big businesses their alumni, faculty and staff had created. Which turned out to be companies like: Google; Hewlett-Packard; Cisco Systems; Nike, Logitech, Sun Microsystems, Yahoo.... plus a list of accomplishment by faculty and alumni...which included; 17 Nobel Prize winners, 50 Nobel laureates, 19 recipients of the National Medal of Science, 4 Pulitzer Prize winners, 3 Presidential Medal of Freedom winners....alumni such as: Former Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama, Former U.S. President Herbert Hoover, U.S. Secretary of State Warren Christopher, Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Former Peruvian Prime Minister Alejandro Toledo...Yale University President Rick Levin, California Institute of Technology President Jean-Lou Charneau, actresses Sigourney Weaver and Reese Witherspoon, Political commentator Rachel Maddow...and the list goes on and on, and that list is for just one University. A that does not include the many doctors, lawyers, hedge fund managers, sports figures, Olympic medal winners....etc., etc., etc.
That would indicate to me, President Obama knows of what he speaks. Education beats ignorance every day of the week. The more the better.
Have you ever been close to a college professor, whether liberal or conservative? I know the answer....and so do you.
Do you republicans really think that your anti-science, anti-education, anti-fact, and anti-everything that makes sense is a winning strategy? Wait until you lose the 2012 election to see what the republican establishment is going to do with the "base". LOL!!!
Do you really know that to be true? Is that absolute? I retired as a professor then started another career outside of academia working a small farm. Most of my fellow "academicians" have other skills because many of us worked second or third jobs while pursuing advanced degrees. I know English profs that can rebuild car engines, even a Philosophy professor who volunteers for Habitat for Humanity at every opportunity because it gives him a chance to do what he did as a young man – do finish carpentry. I even have a Foreign Language friend who indulges his culinary skills by spending vacations working in upscale restaurants. And, I have a good friend who left Anthropology an dnow makes a six figure living writing computer code. Did you include those individuals in your "all or none" statement? I can tell you that most of my students were seeking an education in a chosen field and most have been successful. Some of them also chose to go in another direction, but all of them recognized that they couldn't compete without an education beyond high school.
HEY MR. HOWARD DO AMERICA A FAVOR AND DO NOT VOTE ALSO DO NOT REPRODUCE AND YES I AM SCREAMING!!!!
nonsense, the vast majority of college professors are super-competitive over-achievers who could do quite well – much better financially, than they do as professors. But many are super-liberal and think there may be something more important in life than accumulating the most money possible. Some college professors maybe don't work as hard – only work 40 hours a week. But most work much more than that – because they are doing something they love to do. Yes, it is great to sit around talking to young people and calling just talking about ideas part of your job – that is a perk of the position. Yes, having tenure and knowing that you will not be fired is comforting – but then again most people in the country didn't want to be college professors because it was too hard, or too boring. So, college professors are harder to come by than you'd think. Once all the lectures from all the classes are on-line, maybe you will think we don't need college professors anymore – but we'll see.
Teaching is a real job and making a living it is statements like this that are the problem!!!!!!! Teachers wake up every and fight a good fight at every level k-12 through college. It is a real job and we make a lot less than most other professions. So who is the snob???
Obama shows us how an arrogant, pompous, snob responds to being called an arrogant, pompous, snob !!!
And you sound like an envious, bitter hack with nothing better to do than attack academic success as something wrong.
GET A LIFE AND TRY TO HELP OUT THE U.S..
get an education.
I bet your parents are the high end if the 1% howard? Dad and moms money,"They take care of you"???? You Hope?
As a Canadian I just sit back and laugh, who knew that education was a bad thing. Sadly there will be some who actually believe this crap. I'm certainly glad that I don't have to choose between the devil you know and the Idiots you don't, stick with Obama
I really don't think Santorum's comment required a response... It speaks volumes about him!
And you sound like a pompous whacko.
Obama never said FOUR YEARS he said at least 1 year at a higher education be it vocation technical or a 4 year degree... but of course seeing how u have no education u ate what santorum served instead of fact checking. but fact checking requires cognitive thought which a lack of an education is a very limited ability
@ John ... you sound a bit like your on your high horse. What person wouldn't benefit from more education? Even an auto mechanic can stand to be better educated at his trade no matter how much he already knows. Sure, there are exceptional individuals, but can we please stop discussing what public policy ought to be based on the success of rare and exceptional individuals? That approach is utterly ludicrous.
Wow, could you guys dial down the d-bag factor in your responses please?
There's nothing wrong with more education; the president is right that in most cases it's a GOOD thing to know more. But I guess that won't penetrate through a fog of blind hatred. Oh well!
Patriot – It is because they do better selling their bull@#$% to voters that are uneducated. Plain and simple. They do not want independant thought, they prefer sheep that will follow and buy in to their fear tactics. Anyone who would call the President (or anyone else) a snob because they believe in higher education is ridiculous. Let's hope people wake up and realize the Republicans like 'em dumb!
Obama continues to tell Americans that 2 + 2 = 5 ... and, there's always a bunch of stupid people out there (and posting here), who believe him ... and, are ready to tell the rest of us that he is absolutely right ... and, insult us if we disagree.
Exactly – want proof? Bush and McCain opposed the New GI Bill, Obama signed it into law. Bush and McCain reasoned that educated soldiers would cause higher turnover in the military....
Howard – If you take out two loans of $2 each it will cost you a total of $5 if the interest is 25%. (and it may be more if you do not pay on time)
Howard: It seems to me I've heard that before. Obama tells you 2 + 2 = 5. Hey, wait... Isn't that from Limbaugh? Well of course it is. You re-spewed it, it must have come from Limbaugh or one of the Fox propagandists.
Howard, please you're making conservatives look bad. Oh wait, Santorum is doing a fine job at that. You seem like a conservative, so let me enlighten you on an economic principle held by all economists. It's called trickle down economics. You said Obama says 2+2=5. Well, in trickle down theory, 2 dollars becomes significantly higher. Imagine putting in two dollars and getting back 20 because you get more tax revenue from twenty than you do from two.. That's how economists look at it anyway. The only problem, it only works when the rich spend money. There, you got a little education; hope that doesn't violate your beliefs. Lol. Like I care.
Howard it seems you are truly a mathematically challenged Republican. For a moment look at GOP math. Where they promise everyone a round of tax cuts and borrow enough to send them all tax rebate checks, then they borrow heavily to fund two wars because they do not have taxes coming in to fund 2 wars....so far you have 2 tasks + 2 borrows, which explodes the deficit over the moon, and leave everyone holding the bag which holds nothing = 0.
I worked at a 711 to put myself through college. The owner was the biggest POS ever. He eventually killed his wife. Anyways, he'd make me listen to Rush every morning and tell me I didn't need college because Rush would educate me in all I needed to know. That was almost 20 years ago. The GOP wants an uneducated populace – a world of people who don't question anything and accept what leaders tell them on "faith." Questioning the world around you and making your own assumptions based on evidence or argument is the basic tenet of a liberal arts education. It is the antithesis of religious dogma that states we must accept what our leaders tell us is true, not on evidence, but on faith.
Liberals don't seem to be questioning the assumption that global warming is a corrupt political theory. They are anti-science in this respect and flock to it as a matter of dogma.
You are exactly right Jeff. The right wing is terrified of an educated populace who actually possesses the knowlege necessary to think for themselves rather than take the pontifications of a Santorum or Limbaugh at face value. Knowledge is power and the hack politicians of the extreme right, for all their populist rhetoric, cannot tolerate real power in the hands of the people.. Anyone who thinks for themselves can see through the lies and deception. For an insultated millionaire like Santorum who has no idea what life is like for ordinary people to accuse President Obama, a man who spent time as a community organizer in the poorest areas of Chicago and who has worked his heart out for the 99 percent out here on Main Street of being a snob is outrageous
DartmouthMD: There is scientific evidence that the Earth is warming up. It is flawed political dogma on your end to reject it simply because you don't want it to be true.
"Liberals don't seem to be questioning the assumption that global warming is a corrupt political theory. They are anti-science in this respect and flock to it as a matter of dogma."
Are you kidding? The SCIENCE supports global warming. How is it anti-science to review the data, come to your OWN conclusion, and agree that a theory is very likely the most logical explanation? The only dogmatic response has been from deniers, who do NOT use science, but merely wild speculation or simple head-in-the-sand denial.
We had a relative who loved to quote Rush, that he knew everything and we should listen to him. He used to collect guns too, said that nobody was ever got to get him, he was ready for them. He had guns behind doors, in the couch, in the night stand, in the car. Sadly for him his days of listening to Rush ended when he was shot in the back and killed. Never saw it coming and hopefully never felt a thing. You can have all the weapons in the world, but if they shoot you from behind they won't do you a bit of good. Listening to Rush never helped him much either. I can't imagine working for someone who played that stuff every day.
@Dartmouth MD - When >90% of climate scientists agree that human induced climate change is taking place, are you suggesting that it's really a huge international conspiracy to dupe people who are socially progressive? The very idea is risible.
Howard and john needs to have there voting rights denied......lets also sterilize them while we are at it.
I also agree, and find it terrifying that the Religious zealots are stripping my GOD given rights away!
...and it's scary to think how far behind in education we are to the rest of the world. And we have people like John and Howard who respond like that!
Because an informed electorate is the greatest threat to their power.
Not if they study mathematical economics.
HA HA HA!!! Dartmouth MD, you crack me up. Where are they going to study mathematical economics? In college! Just where your hero Santorum doesn't want them to go. And where'd you get your MD, huh? Not from home schooling! You're just as hypocritical as Santorum- education is good for you, but not for the masses...
Santorum already made his views clear. Women and everyone else who do not share his viewpoints on life should be barefoot and ignorant. The guy is an idiot.
Because to them, "Ignorance is bliss" has a completely different meaning.
That's because an intelligent electorate isn't going to fall for the propaganda...people who listen and analyze... college educated or not will always question the questionable . Santorum almost tripped himself up on one of his many lies about Obama in a CNN soundbite this morning...he reacted as if he didn't believe it himself.
How many jobs are waiting for the fully educated Americans as we speak. If this president does not create jobs for the people then there will be no jobs when you come out of school. Education is an important part of life but if there is no job waiting for you when you graduate then you spend thousands of $$ for nothing. Stop sending jobs overseas bring the jobs back to the states for our educated children and our future
Because the LESS educated are more likely to vote republican. The repubs don't want us to understand what they are REALLY saying. Just my observation from the people in my area....
So they don't want people educated so they can be kept in the dark and then vote for their rulers the wealthy Repugs ??
How about the millions of dollars enormous banks pay professors at the most "liberal" schools to be on their board of trustees to ensure they stay as anti-government as possible, and influence the incoming business people to stay true to "trickle down" theories
BO still doesn't get the fact that some nice jobs do not require higher ed. The guy who built my house, who happens to be worth millions, doesn't have a degree. He feels BO is insulting him every time he speaks of "higher ed".
Young people with college degrees can't even find a job in obama's failed economy !!!
its not Obama's failed economy, God everyone in the good ole use knows that Bush is the one who started our downfall. Do you read the papers, or follow the news? you should
The economy was destroyed by the repuglicans, Stupid! Howard, Think before you speak, you sound like a 2 year old!!! How can people be so "Dumb"???? wow!
As much as you may not want to hear it or believe it, the Democrats are just as guilty!
The Democrats being also-guilty still doesn't make this "Obama's economy". Just sayin.
Failed ecomony? dow is over 1300 agian today and what was it when bush left???
Check the difference in unemployment rates between those with degrees and those who don't have one. Absolutely true that some people have done well without a formal education, but it is getting harder and harder to do so without one. Just to much stuff to learn for what were once "brawn" type jobs in industry and the trades. Trade school and community colleges will imaprt those skills, but you won't get most in high school.
and dumb a$$ bush's economy was shredding MILLIONS of JOBS per month...I bet you were one of these people? Place your angry in the right place and at the right people.....starting with the person how let you go.
YHOR ARE A REAL A-HOLE
Howard needs a life, he wakes up everyday posting his beliefs and lies about the President everyday!!!
I have a high school diploma and has turned down 4 job offers this morning...I receive about 4 per week on average and I will continue to hold out for the job I want....This economy has been back on track for a while..some of us just refuse to admit it
Sorry. Deficit spending helps him own it! No, not fully but he does have some ownership! As I have said before, yes Obama inherited some stuff. What some liberals refuse to believe is Bush inherited some mess from Clinton too (the housing bubble started there, didn't mature under Clinton but was birthed under him).
@Steveo President Obama didn't start the deficit ball rolling. Look to Ronee Reagan who tripled the deficit and George W. Bush who doubled it with their cut taxes, borrow and spend. Tickle down doesn't work...Hoover failed, Ronald Reagan failed, George W. Bush failed....3rd time for trickle down is proof it is a failed policy.
@Steveo the housing bubble started with GBL = Gramm, Bliley, Leach, Act which deregulated Glass-Steagall
Phil Gramm, Jim Leach, and Thomas Bliley Republicans all three.
FDR's administration created Fannie Mae, and thus mortgage-backed-securities. every president since LBJ (except for Ford) has signed into law some sort of legislation that has impacted the housing market in some way. to say that the housing bubble was "birthed" under Clinton is just not fair. although, Bush's administration could have done something in late 2003 to correct the issues once they were known, but instead ignored the warnings of the experts. (just like they did before 9/11) so, i guess you could blame Bush for doing nothing.
instead, you should blame money-hungry wallstreet for the housing bubble. they wanted MORE high-interest subprime loans, and MORE fees for credit-default-swaps, and they got it. big business runs this country. everyone in washington are puppets with wallstreet pulling the strings. everyone in congress should wear suits with their "sponsors" on them, just like NASCAR. that would make things much easier... IMO.
Another example of someone who has comprehension problems, and a poor memory!
Sorry Jean but you are providing half truths
1. I never said deficit spending started under Obama. Once again you ar etakiing liberties with my words. The full truth is deficit spending is certainily continuing under him, just like it did previous administrations. Thus, he owns some responsibility for this economy!
2. I have noticed that the ONLY administrations you want to blame are GOP ones! No mention of LBJ and his ramp up of Vietnam? of his "great Society, that exploded the enti-tlement programs (section 8 and such). No mention of the administration who signed GLB into law? CLINTON! No mention of the amount of DEMS who supported GBL?
A DEM president signed it and Dems suported GBL which started the housing bubble UNDER CLINTON, just like I said. It was BIRTHED under CLINTON. I have acknowledged GBL was a GOP act. Yet you still fail to acknowledge the DEMS that lined up to support it and you stil don't acknowledge the Democrat that signed it into law. BOTH parties are responsible and just because you fail to acknowledge that, does not mean it is not true!
3. You keep mention trickle down and the GOP. Was there no trickle down under Clinton? Is there no trickle down under Obama? Nobody has ever gotten rich under trickle down? Realize it is possible to make it under "trickle down". It just takes sacrifice and hard work. Hard work! The lazy would just rather "share the wealth". Now we have a movement to address "income inequality" That takes no hard work! Well, excluding those who made the sacrifices to get where they are!
The best way to address income inequality is to provide OPPORTUNITY not hand outs! Santorum's statement was wrong and elitist! When was the last time you read a liberal saying that about an Obama statement or policy?
The opportunity for K-12 is already in place. There are already grant and loan programs for higher education. Once again it take hard work! Some are just not willing to do that! The easy answer is to bail them out! I admit some actually are working hard and yet need the help. These are not the folk I am addressing! Iam addressing those who make poor decisions over and over again and EXPECT the government to rescue them!
When you mention "entitlements" I assume you mean those farm subsidies paid to corporations, or the fossil fuel subsidies paid energy producers, right? LOL
Since SS is money the government borrowed from my wages and owed me for my retirement years. Medicare...Oh wait I prepaid for that, Part II Medicare...Oh wait they still take it out of my monthly SS benefits....Drug benefit, Oh wait I pay for Part D insurance coverage monthly out of SS benefits. Certainly you don't think SS is an entitlement?
Where are those who the government keeps bailing out with free education? So far, I haven't met one person who gets perpetual education that doesn't have a whopper of a student loan bill to show for it. Education is the topic of this article. Oh yes...by all means let's stop student loans, grants, and training for the long-term unemployed ...that will make us all a better society....NOT! Darn those people wanting to be elitist snobs at our expense! I can't believe we are having this conversation.
You talk about "entitlements" exploding....maybe you should look up the definition of entitlements under Section 8 which is what I think you are bellyaching about...and you will find that "entitlements" in that particular context means something a person is entitled to "IF" they qualify for that particular thing, but in actuality it may be something they qualified for but were not guaranteed, and did not receive. Whether this is assistance with housing, heat, food, veteran's benefits for unemployment, and a whole host of things needed by the less fortunate.
I guess I am not so much concerned about those who actually have a need and are receiving aid, so much as I am about those who have no actual need but yet seem to have their hand out for things like welfare for the rich. Which to me is the opposite of trickle down it is sort of a gush up...like the cream of the crop rising to the top on the backs of those who are oppressed or in the middle. It seems those who are doing the best in any economy complain the loudest about all those "welfare queens", and not once utter "there for the grace..."
I guess that is where you and I will always have a fundamental difference. Have you ever considered that providing the best education to as many as possible (up to the limit of their ability) would truly eliminate a great many of our problems?
And for your information Santorum is another idiot stirring the pot of class warfare from his position in the 1% at the top.
@Google. Thanks for the info but your info conflicts with info from Jeans2009. She said GBL caused the bubble and if that is true, that bill was signed on Clinton's watch.
I agree with you that Wall street wall brokers share the blame as does those who bought homes that were truly unaffordable! Some folks just overextended themselves and yes some got snookered by creative financing! There is plently of blame to go around!
dude, you really think that "trickle-down" works? seriously??? history says otherwise, my friend. the first time it failed was in the 1890's when it was called "horse and sparrow theory" (feed the horse enough oats and some will pass through to the road for the sparrows), and helped cause the Panic of 1896. dude, even Reagan's own budget director, David Stockman, didn't believe in this junk! years later he wouldn't even take credit for it, and he wouldn't even admit that Reagan wanted it! the facts are, when you give tax breaks to the rich, an small percentage of them invest, the majority of them SAVE IT and then their kids inherit it.
back on the housing-bubble... LBJ (dem) signed HUD Act of 1968; Nixon (gop) signed bill creating Freddie Mac in 1970; Carter (dem) signed CRA in 1977 and DDMCA in 1980; Reagan (gop) signed TRA in 1986; Bush Sr (gop) signed HCD in 1992; Clinton (dem) signed IBBEA in 1994 and GLB in 1999; Bush Jr (gop) signed ADD in 2003; then the FED fails to properly regulate lenders and banks from 2003-2007 (even though the housing bubble burst in 2005). so... go read-up on these pieces of legislation, and you'll see that the housing issue was NOT "birthed" under Clinton. it was "birthed" over 40 years ago and made worse by every single administration since LBJ (except for Ford). big business/wall street lobbied for these laws, paid for them, and now we can see the result. CLINTON DID NOT CAUSE THIS! get it right!
Your answer about housing is fair. At least you share the blame, unlike others who have decided the GOP is at fault for every ill in this country. I respect your answer. As far as trickle down goes, isn't that the system we live under? If so, if you have a house, a car , a job, you acquired that under a trickle down system. Why do we have a Bill Gates, who started in a garage? What system was he under?
@Jean, you are full of assumptions! I told you just YESTERDAY that SS is NOT an ent-itlement. I hope there is something in the kitty when I retire! I repeat...SS IS NOT an ent-itlment. Somehow you keep saying i think it is when I never said that.
You said you can't believe we are having this conversation.Me either as most of your ranting has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said. You do this quite often Jean! You refer to Santorum's education rhetoric, Somewhere on this blog I stated it was boneheaded. I guess you did no see that as that would render half you ranting invalid!
Speaking for the proper definition of ent-itlement (you know good and well the the proper definition of that word is NOT used in DC). Why the is proposed free cell phone an Ent-itlement?
President Obama didn't say that all jobs require higher ed. He just said that Higher Education should be available to everyone who wants it. Why should the guy who built your house feel insulted? And what about your own children? Maybe they don't want to build houses for a living. Maybe they'd like to be car mechanics, or cooks, or many of those "nice" jobs you mention that DO require higher education, or are at least easier to get with higher education. Some nice jobs don't require higher education, but most do. Why would you want to limit your children's choices to those that don't. Obama gets it better than you do.
there is no degree in carpentry, i know. its the years you spend as a journeyman, etc. Working out figures that only a home designer would know, and knowing how to read a blueprint. You on the other hand, have no idea what you are talking about, and would love to have a debate with you.
Not trying to start an argument here, but that guy most likely hired and electrician and a plumber. Those guys had to be trained in order to be certified. While this does not require a college degree, it does require training that can be obtained through community colleges.
John: Maybe your house builder does not have a college degree, but how did he learn his skill? Did he go to any trade school or some kind of apprentiship program? I'm thinking he must have some form of formal training to do what he does as well as he does.?.?
Really? Does this builder have a family? Does he WISH and PRAY that his kids NOT go onto higher education (and thereby insult him) and maintain the "no higher education" family tradition or does he work hard to put them through college? Pres. Obama does not say those without higher education are not intelligent. He does not say everyone needs to or should go to college. He says that everyone "should be able to afford" a higher education. I agree. We are not an elitist country where only certain group should be able to afford higher education.
There's nothing wrong with being able to construct a proper sentence. I wish I had been better equipped to grasp my college experience but much soul searching has shown the effects of certain dominant thinking which wanted to keep certain ethnic groups and women out of the know. What we don't know can hurt us. . .this is why the Chinese outpace us now. Preparing ourselves to be able to engage in global dialogue is essential. Education is one way of breaking down the resentment and jealousy that many of us feel. Education is something that is theoretically, or should be available to us all. Without words and the use of words, concepts cannot be fully expressed or form. With the misuse of words, the likes of Santorum and others like him are born. I am certain your home builder would be even more power combining his innate abilities with the offerings of education. It just requires a bit of open-mindedness on all of our parts, Obama and Santorum. It's a shadow dance if you care to delve deeper into these two opposing voices.
How many contractors are worth millions? Most guys aI know are struggling in this economy. The President said that 4-year degrees are not the only way to go, and community colleges are supplying much of the training for people in the building trade. Think before you post, or do you think that's only a skill for a " snob" with a BA?
How dare Obama insult your builder friend! I hope to god Obama didn't make him cry. John, PLEASE tell me he did not cry!
So John, does this builder guy hire unskilled labour? or does he hire people with qualifications in their relevant fields?
I don't understand your use of the Presidents initials. Is this because its also short for body odor? really how old are you? 10?
He aquired a specific skill that required training beyond high school....if thats the case why didn't you built your house?
in addition, the builder had to know subjects such as math to undstand the fundamental elements of housing construction. Wonder who taught him these skills or has the house fell down (in my three lil' piggies voice)
Self-made millionaires are a rarity. The richest people mostly inherited it or went into politics backing big corporate profits over helping people.
He is not saying you have to or should go to college. He is saying that everyone should be able to go if they wish to. What a snob. He probably thinks people should have a place to live too.
Do you really not understand that the President is merely stating that higher education should be affordable for everyone? He is not saying that everyone should be required to attend. I don't see why this is a problem. Higher education should not be a luxury, and it is terrible that many individuals have to resort to joining the military or succumbing to well over $50,000 in debt just to attend college. How is trying to make college more affordable being a snob?
The person who built your house may not have a college degree, but his success was built on the backs of people who do, for every successful person who makes it without a degree, there are accountants to keep his books straight, lawyers to keep him out of problems, doctors to make sure he is healthy, teachers looking after his kids and educating his workers engineers and technicians making sure his phones work, people working in the banks that hold his millions of dollars and all of them have a college or some other type of higher education or training.
And did everyone on his job sites speak english? Contractors use the cheapest, illegal immigrant workers they can find.
I don't think he ever said that!!!!!!.....What is wrong in getting an education....NOTHING!!!!!
What about carpenters who cannot go to a college and get a degree?
Tell the guy who built your house to get an Associate Degree and see how much better he will be doing.
John you're so full of bs your eyes are probably brown
There is the thin skin again. What a bunch of whimps.
"the guy who built my house who doesn't have a degree is worth millions!"
Probably because he rips idiots like yourself off.
How much you want to bet he wants his accountant to be well educated, I bet he also wants something better for his kids. A man who does not learn enough to keep an eye on his business soon won't have one. My dad was a plumber, but he became a plumber because of the GI Bill. I would bet your builder wants a licensed qualified Tech working on his AC, and one working on his trucks. I would bet he wants educated men and women working in the doctors office and hospital, and in the pharmacy. I would bet he wants educated people to be teaching his kids. I bet he wants skilled employees who can cut and measure lumber and pipes. There are a lot of people who came up the hard way and educated themselves and they should be proud of that. But this world is getting very complicated, even the farmers need their computers, complicated machinery, and knowledge of chemicals. Why do you think so many attend universities like Texas A & M?
He may not have a degree John, but I'll bet his bookkeeper does, also the engineers that design the houses he builds, probably those he hires to manage his building projects do too.
well hell santorum . and you call yourself a christian.
Comments like that isn't why Santorum wont be president. It's his inexperience in talking and making sense. He is the last person on earth who should become someone with high power. I'm sticking with President Obama
When we start acting as if higher education is a bad thing then we have gone past the point of being in trouble. It is true that formal education is not needed for some jobs but we should never suggest that being educated is a bad thing.
Wow. Sense when does education become a bad thing. OK if you don't want and education, fine dont pursue. But don't complain either. The republicans are making a huge mistake in attacking education. I think most Americans are working hard today and saving so their kids can get an education, are and encouraging their kids everyday to stay in school. So Santorums idea: drop out of skill, dont get educated and demand a job! Dream On!!!
You're just realizing this now? The Republicans have been attacking education for at least a couple decades now.
Yes, and they have been cutting funds for education; cutting teaching staff, and that No Child Left Behind well mostly it was to enrich Neil and Jeb Bush, and the Texas textbook publishers.
I am glad there are at least some Republicans that realize the value of education, and more so of a college education.
If this country wants to succeed, it needs to invest a lot in education, specially science and technology. Countries like India and China produce some of the best engineers, scientists, and researchers today. All one has to do is look into ant large corporation, and you will find a whole lot of people from these countries in highly technical areas.
People like Santorum do a great disservice to the country by belittling the immense value of higher education.
"He believes in the values that are, unfortunately, the dominant values, and political values, and overly politicized values, and politically correct values that are on most college and university campuses."
Apparently Santorum doesn't believe in an education at most colleges and universities because of their values. Interesting. I'd like to see his list of acceptable higher education institutions.
Granted, I realize that the Federal government may no longer be able to afford paying out for some of these educational. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. This country needs more people that can be educated and take care of themselves. WE don't need all these people on welfare.
There is nothing wrong with knowledge, it is more an issue of what people do with those tools.
I wish Obama could tear into these jerks. Wanting kids to go to college – he is Hitler. No he cannot go after them the same way Jackie Robinson could not go after the bigots in the stands. No, he'll just stay in the batter's box and knock them out.
And perhaps Mr. Santorum should look around him and realize that the more education you have, the higher your chance to succeed in today's economy. Are there exceptions to that generalization? Of course. Education is never a guarantee of success, and it's not a requirement, but certainly is an aid. It's what you do with it that counts.
I think Mr. Santorum knows that. That's why he has multiple college degrees.
Never mind the fact that any of the experts who follow job trends will tell you that a high school education doesn't cut it anymore and that at least some form of other training is required. Do the Repubs realize how idiotic they sound every day? And it's especially funny coming from a guy with a master's and a law degree. And if you don't want your kid going to some "liberal" school, there are plenty of others.
I don't like BIG intrusive government.
But I think Santorum is going to start seeing a BIG drop in his support, if he keeps this rhetoric going.
He and his BIG mouth are going to do more harm than good to the GOP.
I don't believe that people like Barry Goldwater would have been against higher education.
There's nothing scarier to a Republikan politician than an educated populace. Home schooling and christian madrassas are good enough!
Mr. Harnack, Have you ever researched the criteria for home schooling. My granddaughter was home schooled for first through third grade because the school district was unable to deal with a highly-gifted child. In fact, they refused to do anything extra for her. I can assure the the cirrculum for her home schooling was much more advanced than any school district in the area. Rick Santorum is not against higher education. He simply believes it should be a matter of personal choice, not something the government mandates. I believe that with BO in office, that is exactly where this is heading. BO doesn't believe we are capable of making these decisions for ourselves. Not have a college degree does NOT mean one is stupid.
How does ridiculing someone for promoting higher education help this country?
Can you explain how President Obama is mandating higher education? Did you even read the article before posting?
At least we know that your grand daughter didn't get her gift from you.
This is why this country dominance is being weaken.......idiots like yourself with all your biases,hatred, and disrespect of your fellow man. I guess you chose to just finish up to the fifth grade......smh at stupid so called Americans.
And I've also known home-schooled children that eventually went to public school and had to attend special ed because they were so far behind and had no social skills. Before you get on the home school bandwagon accept it that home schooling is definitely not for everyone, and if the home teacher does not have very good teaching skills they are unlikely to produce a good student.
I agree that some homeschooling can be better than some public schools. My sister who has four year degree in Science is teaching her 10 year old at home via k12.com as part of online public schools. The schools where we live are so poorly equipped to deal with any child who is not an average performer or lower. In less than six months he is more than one year ahead of his peers. He will participate in the same standardized testing that the regular public schools take.
The entire reason my sister is teaching him at home is so that he will be better prepared for college and life as an adult. Not all home schoolers are religious right crazy people. Many are simply fed up with poor quality public schools and lack the money for non religious private schools.
Proud to know Santorum – Your handle alone is reason enough to ignore you. Santorum is an embarrassing loon, and I PRAY he gets nominated, so Obama can clean his theocratic clock!
@Proud to know Santorum - And just how does government "mandate" higher education??? Higher education is mandated by economic realities. The government has a role to play by supporting institutions of higher learning and making it possible for citizens to attend them. You right-wingers are really something! There's something wrong with your thought processes.
how do you compete with no higher level of education what so ever? only repubs can do that for sure!
CNN how in the hell can you say the President say he does not watch whats going on with the rep canadates and then say he made a comment in response to that stupid, ignorant santorium? First of all President Obama has always talked about the value for a college degree you people at CNN need to stop picking side, YES you do pick sides. candy crowley, john king and that big mouth erin burnett are so obvious. Look at the guest you always have on there not to mention your bias comments. I read this blog but I stopped watching CNN a while and it's crap like this why.
Simp: Let's be fair here... If you read the article, it says that "The White House repeatedly maintains President Obama is not monitoring the day-to-day rhetoric..." It doesn't say that "CNN says" he isn't watching what's going on...
Then maybe you should start watching again because it seems you are really misinformed.
Obama is talking about education beyond high school, not necessarily a college degree. It could be technical schools, like they have in Germany. One reason for the decline of manufacturing here is that people aren't educated to be machinists and other skilled technical jobs like they used to. As China gets more prosperous, the discount you get by manufacturing there is going to get less and less, so opportunity opens up again to make things here–but only if we have the people ready to make them.
I know a guy who never went to college and has a successful business, so I agree with John that it's possible. But not every person is going to be able to succeed that way, and the President has to think about the average person (which is the opposite of being a snob). I know I couldn't have made it in the work force with just a H.S. degree.
Oh don't go to college. You'll be just fine in this economy. College is for those people who believe in things like math and science. You don't need college, you need church. Yes, Church. That will help you pray yourself into a better life. Works every time. Just go to church and then pray for a better job. Don't worry about college, nothing good ever comes from being educated. Puhleeze. Is this the new message of the GOP? Really? Republicans are now just a bunch of bat-crazy idiots who will hand the future over to China and India and they want us to thank them for it. Santorum makes me want to throw up.
Santorum changed his name from the original. . .Sanitorium, dropping the two i's so that he isn't associated with the craziness that he is.
I just cannot believe a college education has now become fodder for the Republican Candidates. Really? I live in a heavily republican state and we have Billboards all over the state with the slogan "Go On – High School is Not Enough" – a STATE funded campaign FOR higher education! Come on, just because Obama believes in something doesn't mean you have to now attack it! Any semi-intelligent person knows that in today's world, you have to have a college degree if you want to make anything more than minimum wage.There's not a single Presidential candidate out there who didn't go to college.
Obviously some of the individuals who posted criticism about post-secondary education are missing the point. The jobless rate is 13.8 or 14 percent among people without high school education or GED; the jobless rate is 8.7 or 9 percent among individuals with no post-secondary education; 7.7 or 8 percent with some college, and 4.1 percent with a BA or higher. We live in a technological and scientific age. If we as a nation are going to be competitive globally, we must be educated.
That is not snobbery folks, but a fact! I am an Adult Secondary teacher, and I can tell from experience, the President is on point with this issue.
Don't bother with facts, common sense, or reality. Those who need to hear such statistics are too smitten with their own ignorance to hear. I can only take solace in the hope that their numbers are waning, and that we shall overcome the ignorance.
can not believe the repos are making ab ig deal out of what that nut job rick said. Now you see what is wrong with the repo party. Let's argue about the ability of all Americans to get a higher education. How dumb are these repos anyway. Move forward not backward. Obama/Biden 2012. Or you will be stuck with these guys
Children aren't lumps of clay that you can shape into whatever you desire. They're people. They don't need to be "remade". Give them the tools they need to navigate their own course, even if it means they do not follow your path. provide them with opportunities, encourage them to learn all they can, and then let them make their own choices. It's not your life. It's theirs.
Now is that same line of logic still applicable when a child is gay and wants to live as God made them? Also, is that same line of logic still applicable when a girl wants to have the choice to utilize birth control or have an abortion because it is her body?
I like your way of thinking Chas...
A God Given Life, a Child would be lost without the guidance of good parents and education, yes even a college education, most children in this great country can't afford.Actually we should discover our talents then get the very best education to "make them bloom" and succeed and a good college education is one way, a trade school another, but only a "fool" would discourage education after highschool.
so, Santorum, who has spent nearly his whole adult life in school (undergrad degree from PSU, MBA from Pitt and Law degree from Dickinson) government, or lobbying government is lecturing the President a "snob" for wanting all young Americans to have the benefit of some sort of post-secondary education–and it is an obvious benefit.
have Republicans fallen so far as to reach the bottom of the intellectual barrel? I understand that they are trying to appeal to Southern whites, but c'mon.
I am in the South and white. Of course I am female. That must be the difference. No, wait. I am educated. So, Southern, white, uneducated males?
Republicans are just plain "Suckers for rhetoric,WoW??? You have a "Batch of the most foolish clowns in the world, wanting to be the leader of the free world!!! God help us all!!! Obama 2012! Clinton-Warren 2016! Gop won,t be in office for 12 years at least,come this November!!!
Leave it to Republicans to make an Education sound like a bad thing. Wow.
What dumb-aswhip......................so Santation is just like every repuk out here, "keep the average person uneducated" so they will never question what the political "cons" amoung us are doing incorrect................please someone needs to put this looser back in the bottle he's trippen.
Introducing "Rick the Thick", Santorum, who wants us all to be as stupid as he is.
Why is it that republicans are so fond of stupid? They celebrate it. Amazing. But then, it shows.
You take what was said completely out of context. He specifically said higher education did not necessarily mean 4 years of college. It could mean community college, trade school, apprenticeship programs, etc. Funny how the "haters" only hear what they want to hear. Open your ears and minds and you will find a whole world full of wonder just waiting for you . . .
Yes and Obama mentioned tech schools and community colleges so Santorum is the one taking out of text.
May bee wee shudnt go 2 skool at all becuz rik sandtorim wud lik us all 2 bee stoopid andthen wee wud thingk he waz smart or sumthing and wud do a good job at prezident and we wuld elekt him 2 bee prezident and wee all cud wer swettervests lik him 2
Hmm... So what's new. Republicans are against sex and eduction. What is wrong with these people.
This is very simple for any American to understand. Do you want your children to grow up to be a right wing nut like Santorum or an educated, intelligent and fair-minded person like Obama? Doesn't seem like much of a decision here.
I never went to college but got all my training in the military and have a great job now. It also depends what you want to do with your life, don't major in philosophy if you're planning on going into engineering. A lot of people I know have that problem, they never considered how their major could be used in the work force.
And it boggles me that someone doesn't go for a qualification in the area they want a career in. I can understand those that are still unsure, or want to explore......there are plenty in that boat and more power to them, I wish them well, but those that have an idea but choose something unconnected seems strange to me.
I really makes me angry to see people complaining about lack of jobs and about the illegal immigrants taking jobs. 1.)Americans generally don't want to work in the fields and 2.) Americans are too often uneducated to take the job offerings that are out there. And those that are believing Santorum's rhetoric are embarrassing the rest of us. Before you complain about lack of jobs and/or President Obama's push for education- PLEASE look at Monster, Career Builder, etc. There are tons of job openings- BUT THEY REQUIRE EDUCATION!
absolutely right...at least 30,000 jobs requiring an degree of some kind...blue collar people can go to trade school and stiil be blue collar..Santorum is The Hitler of our time along with those other self serving idiots on the campaign trail in the Republican side
Rick Santorum is the epitome of the Dumb Downed Population in the Story "Fahrenheit 451"
the president's point...you need to go bCK TO SCHOOL
Post election priority #1 – Let's burn all books except "the Bible"
Ideology does make fools of the ideologue. Right wing Obama haters have to be on the opposite side of whatever side the president takes, and so now they have to be against higher education. Idiots.
I'll tell ya Santorum is a flaming idiot.
Yeah. It's really getting bad when the candidates have to attack the idea of higher education to get votes. That says a lot about the candidate, but even more about the party. I wonder how Santorum would react if one of his children said they won't pursue an education after high school, my guess is that that won't even be an option in his house.
And so are those that applauded when he made the statement. That's the scary part, that they're out there.
I'd like to see Rick Santorum parachuted into Kabul, to "not apologize" in person.
As good of a suggestion I think this is, you cannot make somebody sacrifice time or effort for there own future. The safety net of ent-itlements is a hinderance to SOME! The opportunity for higher education is there! Some don't want to even try! Still a good suggestion!
*make that THEIR future
I don't know about y'all but don't most of the parents hope that their children go to college. I sure hope my kid doesn't aspire to a ditch digging job
Ultimately I would say every parent wants their child to just be happy, but they would also want them to have the option to choose their path and not have to take something because there are no other choices open to them.
I think though that we are creating an educational 'bubble' for the last two generations at least we have been pushing to get everyone to go get a college education – nowadays the outcome of that is that it is causing those who are successful and want to distinguish themselves to seek higher and higher levels of education, while the fruits of a 4 year degree become less and less. The reality it, we push many people to go, when they realistically should not. Its a good intention, and shows that parents typically want the best for their progeny, but it could be directly contributing to an altogether bad outcome. Granted, I am somewhat biased in the matter (higher education,advanced degrees), but see a case where I would support the president for also pushing for tradecraft and journeyman type programs.
Well only 33% of people over the age of 25 have a four year degree. There are many, many job postings requiring four year degrees that go unfilled for months. I am not sure we have an education bubble. Perhaps in certain degrees, but not overall.
I'm sure your children will go to trade school, Ricky. Stop your silly and divisive name-calling and labeling. What family family does that reflect? What part of your Catholic Faith leads you to speak so disrespectfully towrds anyone who may have a different perspective than you do? You just sound so immature.
All parents want their children to be as or more successful then them. Only a selfish idiot wouldn't want their children to go as far as they can/want. There is a difference between not going to college because I don't want too and not going because I can't.
I swear, it doesn't take much to be said before the Repubs take the whole thing and blow it up into something it's not! President Obama is not saying that EVERYONE NEEDS A FOUR-YEAR DEGREE! He is merely trying to explain that if people want a decent paying job or career, then they will probably succeed by further educating themselves. Employers are more likely to hire someone with a 2yr, 4yr, or vocational certification than someone who does not have one. And Republicans know this. They are just nit-picking at everything Obama has to say. I mean, come on...how do they think their rich daddies and mommies (that didn't inherit it or have someone call in a favor) got their money? Geesh! They are all starting to sound Sarah Palin now. The constant blurting things out when inappropriate and stuttering and stammering. They are not making any sense. Each one is simply trying to be as outrageous as the other and it's only making them look like a bunch of clowns.
isn't the point is that we should aim high? A lot of blue collar jobs need some technical training these days
As more and more of our skilled positions like doctors and engineers are being taken by non-Americans, the GOP is preaching for less schooling and more ignorance. I would like America to be the best and smartest country in the world. Call me a snob.
Education is a threat to the right-wing agenda. College teaches critical thinking and analysis and also teaches tolerance and an expanded world view. Higher education isn't inherently liberal. It just produces brains that know how to think for themselves. That isn't liberal, it's just the opposite of anything the right wing wants, therefore, they call it liberal. I'd say taking over companies and driving them into the ground for excessive profit is being a snob, but the right-wingers aren't calling themselves out over that.
Ever since when is having an education a bad thing whether it's a technical school or a full blown university? How does one become a doctor, or attorney (as many of our politicians are) without an education?
Then again, since many politicians are also attorneys..............
Rick Santorum is an idiot. With his increase in wins, you can see his cockyness begin to show. Keep talking Rick and we will have Barack for another 4 years.......
the point the president was making was everyone should be able to go to college. It is apparent here that a lot of repos don't In what country is higher education frowned upond ?? The repos are totally nuts and getting nuttier by the day. Colleges are now some kind of conspiracy according to pope rick. Can't wait to check the news each day and see what new crazy ideas the repos have come up with. Are they all on crack or what. And they home school too. Scary.
Mr. Santorum must be a "snob" himself for going to Penn State and getting an education.
Great point and why doesn't a reportor/CNN call him out on this...got his degree but other should not get thiers...smh
Exactly – why is it okay for Santorum to go to college and law school and be taught by those "liberal" professors?
Funny how it was not "indoctrination" for Santorum to get not ONE but TWO post high school degrees....Bachelors and Law Degree....he must be VERY indoctrinated...
He is actually the one who wants to "indoctrinate" people....in the strictest of Catholic church teachings (I am Catholic but this guy is a WINGNUT!!). To be frank....There are "taliban" in every religion...!
Santerom is rite I didn't go to no collage and I'm doing just fine thank you the presidint is for sure a snob and he don't know nothing obout running the country.
Its fairly obvious that one of the Republicans central goals for its voting block, is to have people as less informed as possible. Im not saying that Dems are smarter than Repubs or vise versa, however, it is becoming evident that our ignorance IS their bliss.
people such as rick can't thrive without people being dumbed down, that way they shovel anything into their lives, and directly benefit, such as borderline poverty stricken people voting for gop canidates
well lets see, our little jayzus freak wants to meld government and religion, so it would make sense to me at least that the few educated people around to see it going down, the better. Intelligence – the age old nemesis of dinosaur cults
What is wrong with everyone being able to afford and go to college? Why do some think they have the right to deny an opportunity to others? Society would be much better if the level of education of its citizens were the highest possible. Since when, in the Republican mind (noting the applauses Santorum drew) did mediocrity become a goal?
No kidding. Most Europeans can speak more than one language fluently and in Asia, English was not a second language, it was a required language from day 1 of school. In this country, we have people who can't even speak English properly let alone any other.
Maybe Santorum would like this country to be more like Afganistan. Stop educating the population and start listening to our religious leaders for moral guidance and education. Yeah, we'll really be world leaders then. I would even bet, oh say $10K, that many of the "developing" countries will be more willing to believe in our moral integrity. After all we can surly eliminate our states and national debt if we just let private religious entities take over our education, for the believers only of course, then for nonbelievers apply the apprentice system of trade learning. Yup, we have advanced all we really need to. Now lets all roll up our sleeves and get to work!
WTH obama sealed all his acidemic records...or we could see where the grants and minority funding came from...he thinks everyone should get a near free ride like he has.... Well obama, there are still some of us who are not racist, and who pay our own freight...I know you can't understand that...and you never will, but try as you can with your limited brain power.
Idiot much? You sound bitter... take 40 Seconal with a quart of Vodka, you'll feel much better. Or not. ;)
Lax – Just say what you mean. Obama had help with Affirmative Action right? Every white person in America has always enjoyed the luxury of Affirmative Action without ever having to fight for it, you included. Our President rose to his heights by living in a white world that is still calling him racist names and accusing him of not being an American. He became President of the Harvard Law Review not because he is black, because he had achieved the necessary education and proven ability to head that prestigious group. Do you understand that? Is that too much expectation for you? And what do you know about what he paid for his education? You listen to the haters on Hate Radio and the dimwits on Faux News and think yourself educated, but in reality you make the same racist claims they make without doing any investigation yourself. You have had breaks that our President and others of color have never dreamed of. You could always go to any school you wanted, were given loans for education and other things that our President could not, been accepted into organizations that to this day that would exclude anyone of color. For you to posit the remarks you made shows just how much racism underlies your true feelings. Our President is still having to live with people like you who called his wife's grandmother a gorilla and yet none of that matters to you does it? Grow up, this is 2012 and no matter what ignorant remarks you make about our President, you merely expose your own ignorance and beliefs.
Why is obama sealing his records...what is he hiding? If affirmative action is something to be proud of then why not (obama) tout the fact he go where he is because of it? If you understand how Harvard works, the magna cum laude award and the Harvard Law review and all that you will find obama academic record has little to do with any of this... if we could see his records...and why not...then perhaps we would know how he got where he is...like the process or not. obama is competing with others who had no advantages...so it is time for him go head to head...no race advantage ANYMORE don't you thing it is important for us to know who obama is and what his real level of performance has been? No hate here...but I see a lot coming my way from the like of you.
@jerky Plainly the fact is he would not have been elected (yes elected) President of the Harvard Law Review had he not been exceptionally capable, highly respected, highly intelligent, with an outstanding GPA. Seeing his records is not necessary. Being President of the Harvard Law Review is generally considered the most prestigious in the country, and is considered the highest position at the Harvard School of Law. To be elected the first black president of the Harvard Law Review after104 years of all white presidents...pretty much says it all.
"Well obama, there are still some of us who are not racist, and who pay our own freight"
So you naturally assume that because he is black he got grants, affirmative action, and such, and did have to pay anything.....and then claim you aren't racist?
Some more education would have helped you. Ignorance is not necessarily bliss here.
Apparently Jerry doesn't have much of an education given the absurdity of his post.
I guess Sanctimonious Ricky is a snob since he is a college graduate as is his wife. What does that make him besides being a snob, a two-faced liar. He has been willing to say insane things that do not match with anything he has done in his long political career and as a lobbyist. Everything he accuses his opponents of doing, he has done. His violation of the 8th Commandment in bearing false witness against our nation's President is also indicative of his willingness to commit a Mortal Sin for his own personal gain. He is not true Christian, just another unqualified fool promoting himself with lies and at the expense of his opponents. A true Christian would never condemn or demean his opponents, but run for office on his qualifications, achievements and ability to carry the heavy responsibilities of the Presidency. Sanctimonious hasn't done that, instead he just denigrates Obama and trashes his opponents. The filth that comes out of his mouth shows you just what kind of person he truly is. Nothing in his background shows that he is a man of faith because the only one he has taken care of is himself. Sanctimonious Ricky is a fraud, a self-serving frauds. So Ricky, throw away your college degree and rid yourself of being a snob. You ignoramous!!!
Pow. That is the sound of you hitting the nail on the head. Well said. He trys to come off as an every day Joe, blue collar guy when in reality he is a yellow collar guy. Yellow being the color a coward. Or maybe green collar representing his unbridled greed.
You missed another of the Commandments regardind covetting. Seems like he breaks that one all the time. See my post above in response to John regarding the education/snob comments.
The GOP likes to keep their followers dumb, the blind keep leading the blind. What a sad state the Republican party is in. They continue to glorify wars, greed, and they have a stunning lack of vision on almost every level of government.
@ bigreads. I like all that you say. Truth has been spoken.
I don't recall Obama saying young people MUST go to college, they SHOULD go to college, meaning it's encouraged but not mandatory. Santorum the lawyer should know the difference, since words are a lawyers's trade craft
I guess Sanitoriium's kids won't be getting a collge degree, right?
Everytime one of these Freak Show stars gets on top he seems to shoot himself in the foot. Great qualities for POTUS. NOT!!!
I still believe that getting atleast an Associate Degree is much better than not going to college at all. We are moving into an era where things are changing rapidly, technology is taking over. So regardless of what you say, If two individuals with same work experience but different level of education apply for a Job, I will hire the one with a higher level of education. It's just common sense that having a higher education makes you more competitive in the coporate world. These elitist candidates do not want ordinary Americans to become successful as they themselves have been. They call you over achievers when they themselves went to college and even went further with a graduate degree.
Ricko is a firm believer that only a certain class of people should be allowed to go to college. The problem is he is afraid to say what people SHOULD be allowed to go to college for fear of alienating more people. Besides, don't you know that these colleges teach secular stuff that may be opposed to what the Vatican wants you to believe in? In fact, some colleges actually invite you to challenge your beliefs by listening to people who may think differently than the Vatican would like! And you know what happens then? People throw away the Catechism the Church would rather they read than the Bible, and actually pay attention to Jesus and His Teachings – not listen to others' interpretations of it!
Thank you, the same for my Dad.
Just give the GOP lots of room or rope, as its candidates seem to entangle themselves or hang themselves repeatedly.
The GOP candidates may talk religion, but with their lack of vision, leadership and perspective (Gingrich might be the exception), the GOP DOES NOT HAVE A PRAYER!
Santorum and radical muslims have something in common... 'Western Education is a Sin'
Book lernin' is for snobs! We don't need no fancy shmancy edumacation Praise Jaysus!
Yeah.... Coming from the "Catholic" who homeschools his children. He doesn't believe we should expand education for everyone. He just thinks everyone should homeschool their children like he does. So who's the weisel snob?
Yo Santorum. Why weren't you wearing your forehead smudge when you went to the Republican debate on Ash Wednesday? To snobby to show you're a Catholic?
Here's another thing you seem to be too snobby to do: Why don't you tell the Catholic Church to keep out of women's vagina and out of boys' annus?
Santo wants everyone to be dumb so they think he is smarter than he is. What is the matter with this man, (Santo). Education never hurt anyone, many can't afford it, but Obama would like to to see that change. What is the problem with that.
Santorum, Gingrich, Romney and Ron Paul all went to COLLEGE and graduated with a DEGREE... So why is Santorum against going to College?
I honestly do not have a problem supporting a Republican. The problem lies is to find one that makes sense!
People, be careful what you say about the next saint in the Catholic Church (when the he makes the Catholic Church the official church of the USA). Also, remember Rick does not flip-flop, his thoughts are always the same and don't look to the history of the US or its' constitution. Of course we don't need college, do you really think the people running the church are educated, would educated people protect pedophile priests?
Does Santorum has a degree at all ? if he does not has one and i do believe he can run for President of United State Of America , he has one and his life is better and now telling poeple to go to school. Bad leader. Education provides a lot of ways in life , it polices your life and give you hope as well.
Does Santorum has a degree at all ? if he does not has one and i do believe he can run for President of United State Of America , he has one and his life is better and now telling poeple NOT to go to school. Bad leader. Education provides a lot of ways in life , it polices your life and give you hope as well.
The Republican mantra is "keep them stupid and they will keep voting for us". It takes brains to go to college and be successful, whether it be a two year or four year program. And once there, you learn to THINK, not go with what someone else tells you is fact, but to figure it out for yourself. Republicans don't like people with critical thinking skills who think for themselves...because we know they lie to us.
Santorum just proved the study right... People with low IQs tend to lean conservative.....
Santorum is the snob here - a snob of ignorance. Sarah Palin would be proud of him.
I am very proud of both Sandtorum and Palin. They're born and raised Americans with values. Not a milado socialist that tries to overturn democracy- which we have in office right now!
It's spelled mulatto. You probably wouldn't have made that mistake had you been better educated, but that's frowned upon by the Republicans.
Well said. You'd think he could make his point without resorting to childish namecalling.
I think you just probed Obama's point.
This just goes to show you that this candidates don't truly understand President Barack Obama. None of the Republican Candidates care about the poor because never been poor. How can one truly understand ones background and political stand, if they're so blinded by their on agenda?
I can see the comments about this article have descended into the gutter of name-calling and religious bigotry, and political satire....but then I repeat myself.
Elsewhere, the ingenious Santorum handlers are taking a page right out of the Sarah-Palin-For-Prez book, by having Ricky-Poo "invent" new and inflammatory "issues" that are so far out in right-field they are just bound to grab the news media by their sensational nature and go right to the headlines. This is what you do if you don't know anything about the real issues, and have no credible record to run on. Congratulations, Santorummies – maybe the next accusation can be "guess who's a Communist...Obama!!!"
You are spot on. An educated reader will see Santorum for what he is which is why Republicans do not want them educated. For those that say he's one man and not judge all Republicans for what he says, he's very close to being chosen by all Republicans to be their representative in the upcoming election, so he is your voice.
Ricky Santorum is falling in the polls but he won't stop saying stupid things. Keep talking Ricky. Obama 2012!
While you blame an entire party for this statement, As I read the story "lo and behold", ONE man made this bone headed statement and NOT an entire party! Let me say it this way. Rangle and Geitner cheated on their taxes. Does that mean EVERY liberal is a tax cheat? Based upon the standard SOME of you liberals have applied to this story, you tell me!
When Santorum speaks of the President, it is with unadulterated, pure hatred.
You're right and judging by the polls, it isn't doing him any favors.
Like with many liberals, you have to draw them a picture to explain things. Rick meant you don't have to always go to college to build skills. There are vocational and trade schools. And saying only someone that is successful just because they went to college is a "snob".
Yes, please make me a picture you neanderthal, your sticks, stones, crayons are OK.
–No, he speaks about the President in truths..
Why do librals always interpret Truths and facts into Hatred? Pretty stupid to me!
It has nothing to do with truth or untruth - right or wrong - or whether I like what is being said or not. When Santorum speaks, you can just hear how much he hates the President. I'm not saying that about every Republican. But with Santorum it's real.
As opposed to Gingrich, who says disagreeable things to create a a visceral effect. Or Romney, who says disagreeable things because he thinks that's what he should be saying. Or Paul, who says disagreeable things because they reflect deeply held, well thought out beliefs. Santorum's remarks are themselves a visceral effect.
Boy, can you see his list of potential appointments. From my 11th grade class, I nominate Billy, he was a bully, so I think he would make a great sec of defense.
You never know what a day will bring out of the mouths of the Republican candidates. God told me to run. Contraceptives are bad because they encourage bad behavior. Let's build a colony on the moon. Kids in poor schools should work as janitors. And now young people shouldn't go to college because college, all of a sudden, is an Obama conspiracy. I can't wait until tomorrow to hear the newest outrageous low.
Like Santorum won't want his entire litter to go to college....likely won't work since he apparently wants like 15 kids and thinks every other American should do the same.
if you want a case study in the value of a higher education, you don't have to look any further than my family. 5 kids - 1 with a BA, 1 with a 2 year technical degree, 1 with a 2 year community college degree, and 2 with high school diplomas. All 5 are in late 40's and 50's. The three with higher education degrees all have had very successful business and corporate careers, are earning six figure incomes, and own their own homes. The 2 with high school degrees have never earned more than $10/hour and are still struggling to this day to scrape together enough money each month to pay their rent.
This whole debate on whether you should get a higher education is silly. If you want to compete in this world and earn more than minimum wage as a burger flipper, then you better get that higher education or training, no matter what the discipline. It's no guarantee of success, but it certainly improves your odds of success.
If Rick Santorum thinks colleges are for elite snobs, they why did he bother to get a BA, MBA and a law degree? He's got more education than the vast majority of the US population. So what does that make him?
ha...being on the left now means being pro-education. i can live with that.
Yikes, CNN.com!! Typos and missing words in three articles I've read today. Come on, I realize this is online content, but it's still journalism. It's distracting reading these sentences that don't make any sense:
"called Obama a “snob” for suggesting all young Americans should to go to college,"
Does anyone proof anymore? Find an editor please.
The fact is if all republicans learn to read and have some sort of education then they will be able to realize the truth and will stop voting for jokers like Sanitarium. Oh did I misspell that? Sorry my it's college educamation's fault! What a Sanmoron. Dumber people = more votes for Republicans, see the math?
What's wrong with Santorum. Is he on crack or what?
I want to see my grandsons and grand daughters to get their advance degree. I hope they can achieve more with their degree.
I think that's the American dream.
For Santorum to bring crazy ideas to satisfy the hatred in Tea party wing is just a turn off for Independent and conservative democrat. It's just too bad.
It is a little bizarre to hear Santorum criticizing Obama about being "a person of the left" – whatever that means – and a person of big government. Consider that Santorum was the earmark king while he was a senator and that he has alluded to the fact that he wants "his" government when he takes office to mimic his very far right values. I guess it is okay for government to be big so long as it is a tool that you can use to meet your own ends. Coming from a guy who has spent virtually his entire career in a government job and who is now applying for a job to run that "big government," perhaps he ought to find another job. Indeed, the primary process will soon show him the door. Good riddance. Of all the things to criticize the president for, you criticize him for pushing Americans to be all that they can be? To meet the challenges of a competitive world? I work in an industry where my company hires virtually no one but Chinese and Indian and Eastern European engineers because we don't have enough of them in this country. These are high paying jobs and there are lots more like this if only we had enough people to fill them. Shame on Santorum.
Isn't it interesting that the person who called Obama a "snob" himself not only has a college degree but a law degree to enable him to have made the kind of money he has? Gee, wonder what he'd be doing to support all of those kids if he didn't.
Maybe the Republicans don't like what he said because the more educated people you become, the more likely you become a LIBERAL! And since when is it snobberly to educate yourself? Even if you want a blue collar job, what's wrong with an education first, to fall back on in hard times? What if your position becomes obsolete? How do you change careers at 50 if you don't have an education?
But of course Rick Santorum doesn’t practice what he preaches. He went to college and holds both a law degree and an MBA. He’s sending his own children to college; his two eldest, Elizabeth and JohnSantorum told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Sunday that “there are a lot of people in this country that have no desire or no aspiration to go to college, because they have a different set of skills and desires and dreams that don’t include college.” Yet he makes sure his sons and daughters are not among them.
Hypocrisy and illusion are nothing new for Santorum. He plays up his alleged blue-collar roots, contrasting himself with the snooty Romney. But his father, Aldo Santorum, was a clinical psychologist who held graduate degrees, including a Ph.D., and worked for the Veterans Administration. His mother was an administrative nurse. Not exactly a family of blue collar workers shopping at Walmart.
Looks like ol' Ricky comes from snobbish stock. And the VA, to boot? This is just too delicious. Snobs AND socialists! Ahhh, Rick...God's gift to Democrats – and to the comedy circuit! I was all bummed out when Palin faded, then when Perry and Bachmann threw in the towel, I was sure political comedy was in for a dry spell. But good old Ricky S. came to save the day! Let us give thanks.
Santorum is nuts. Who wouldn't want an education for their kids? He's making sandwiches without bread what a dope!!
Rick Santorum is a neanderthal and an idiot.
As an idiot Neanderthal, I take exception to your comment. By no means will I be associated with a flea-bitten pus-bag like Santorum. No offense is intended to flea-bitten pus-bags.
Well Santorum sounds "ignorant" yet again.
The GOP... where ignorance = pride.
GOP slogan: "My ignorance is just as valuable a contribution to debate as your education."
Me not like Obama cuz I not like to reed and rite/ I like to shoot gun bang bang and make fun of pepul who arnt like me. I like tee party and reeligun. Jesus hate pepul like Obama big snot nose. Me vote 4 Santorum.
What loving parent doesn't dream that their child/children will go to college? I can't help thinking what the rest of the world thinks about this clown and that other pathetic contender, Cadallac Willard.
Nationally, Santorum beats Mr. Obama 49 percent to 46 percent, the poll shows, while Romney ties with the president at 47 percent. The national survey, conducted February 20-21, has a four-point margin of error, meaning both GOP candidates are statistically tied with Mr. Obama.
In a survey of voters in 12 swing states by USA Today and Gallup, Santorum's lead against Mr. Obama widens. He beats the president 50 percent to 45 percent. The swing state survey, conducted February 14-21, also has a four-point margin of error. In this poll, Romney bests Mr. Obama 48 percent to 46 percent.
Why has Santorum's children had a college education? This man is a complete nutcase !!!! Everytime he opens his mouth he comes out with such garbagel it makes one cringe!!!! He really does need medicl help !!!!
One problem is that simply having a degree isn't enough, you need a plan on how to get from point A to point B in your life. This is where the HS guidance counselors need to earn their pay. Unfortunately many HS counselors get points for how many students they can get into the good schools and aren't really concerned about the kid's aptitudes or desires. This is why many end up with degrees that really don't help them in the marketplace.
The scariest part of this is Santorum's comment that he wants parents to remake their children in "their image". How about being a good parent and allowing your children to be their own person, to be their own person. Parents are NOT God, it is not their place or appropriate to "make their children in their image". That comment alone is sacrilege. And absurd.
Golly Ah think Ahm gunna vote for that Santorum fella cuz I just wanna sit here on mah front porch and play mah banjo! Yee Haa!!!
Santorum = idiot . i swear these republicans are nuts attacking something as good as going to college .
Snobs? LOL. Conservatives playin' the victim card. Yet again.
Yep, it is a battle of the cards. Victim card vs the race card! All the while America is told to "GO FISH"!
Obama is going to be so glad when he doesn't have to be President anymore on January 20 2017.
It is far more snobbish to think that only certain young people can go to college. Any person who wishes to do so should have the chance to further his/her education. I wonder if Santorum wants his children to go to college and if he thinks that is snobbish.
Who do you have to blow around here to get your comment posted.
Let's face some facts. The GOP thinks if it does away with the Department of Education and continue it's war on Education it will not get another Obama any time soon. Also they think if they dumb down America they can get what they had in the 50s and 60s. A bunch of people that are uneducated and willing to believe the crap they put out while they steal us blind and make us poorer by the day.
Sorry GOP you are too late and from the looks of the GOP these days, evolution is taking care of you anyway.
Americans are finally getting smart about those so call "Charter Schools" and their privatizing the school systems across the country. You can say good by to them very soon. If you want your rich kids to go to private schools "you" will have to pay for them. No more making the middle class and poor tax payer pay for your kids to waste time and money to only drop out in the 11th grade because mommy and daddy set up a trust fund or worse waste time in Universities because mommy and daddy can buy a building. Look what that has got us with the GOP in the House. A bunch of spoiled brats that always want their way or the highway and can not balance a checkbook if their life depended on it.
Most parents want more for thier kids than they had, I guess Santorum is the exception.
It should be no surprise that Republicans are against higher education. An uninformed electorate is their only hope.
Santoum is amazing, he is not stupid or ignorant, he is on a whole other level, imbecile does not even come close.
Republicans don't want an educated citizenship. The more stupid people there are, the more votes they get.
So true. Have you ever seen such a bunch of idiots
Obama, the dictator, is nothing more than a liar. I hope he gets knocked out on his you know what come election time. Then you democrats can visit him in the looney bin
What did he lie about? Is he a bigger liar than Rush or Sean Hannity? In case you didn't notice, they both got rich lying to people who think like you post. Here's a lesson in decency that your mother forgot to teach you. WHEN YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR, INCLUDE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Hint: Maybe you're in denial about truth, can't express yourself in detail, so you resort to name calling because that's how right wing talk show hosts do it.
Stop playing politics and wake up!..Since 2008 we have seen an increase in unemployment, gas prices, more government trying to control our lives by attempting to illegally force issues on us and/or attempt to attack our rights to freedom of speech, religion and the right to carry a gun. We now have a weak economy (which the educated economist say will not fully revive for two more years), and a national debt which has grown more in the past 3 years than in any previous administration during the same 3-year period. And you think this is Change for the Better?
How could you balme that on Obama. This problem started with Bush and his war. If it wasn't for Obama we woudl be even in worst situation. you are obtuse just like most republicans I know
How could you blame that on Obama. This problem started with Bush and his war. If it wasn't for Obama we would be even in worst situation. you are obtuse just like most republicans I know
So Santorum is against birth control and college. What's next, ban electricity?
So only liberal democrats are collage professors. I guess so since most Republicans don't have enough since to teach Kindergarte.
Santorum: "I want to make this perfectly clear. Do NOT get a college education. I want to create sub-poverty wage jobs being servants to the plutocracy, and your having a college education doesn't fit into my plans."
So Santorum is saying that being well-education and accomplished like President Obama is not part of his twisted perception of the American Dream? Since when did conservatives stop holding dear the value of "I want my child going to college and making something of him/herself?" Is Santorum REALLY speaking for Main Street conservatives? Does Santorum REALLY think that being educated is NOT a Main Street conservative value?
It is interesting how this president has been scoffed, mocked and called all manner of things and expected to produce "evidence" of who he is (black or white, US citizen or non-US citizen), where he was "really" born, etc. No other president that comes to mind has had to endure this level of ridiculous scrutiny. He does not need to justify his parentage, even his very existence to anyone. He is here and that is enough. Fine if you don't like the man or what he stands for but the malicious, vindictive ways in which folks disparage him and his family is like nothing I have ever seen before. There is no end to what we will do to destroy our leaders rather than pray for them and build them up. We need strong leaders at all levels of government. We need to realize that this behavior and the need to tear down under the guise of “legitimate concern” only serves to further fraction an already divided nation.
I support Obama but not in this case. They (the students) do not need a 4 year college degree. There should be "technicons" – special training schools, teaching special trades requiring high skill. Not everyone needs to go to college and not everyone is college material.
A degree only matters when you don't have one.
Well then I guess you agree with him after all ... “When I speak about higher education, we're not just talking about a four year degree.”
With some of the posts on here higher education may be high school. However I think the president meant anything after K through12.
barefoot, uneducated and preferably pregnant = republican idea of the ideal woman ,
Obama correctly identifies the problem when observes the typical high school graduate is not ready to handle “a million dollar piece of equipment,” but myopic vision prevents him from seeing anything other than post secondary education as the solution. There is no inherent reason for a high school graduate to be unprepared for these jobs. The problem is political and is a direct result of modern high schools being nothing more than college preparatory institutions. If high schools would go back to offering a track in industrial arts in addition to the college prep they offer now their graduates could be immediately employable. Under the current system of college prep only there is really no point in those not college bound to bother with high school. They would be better off in an apprenticeship program to learn a viable trade.
I work as a journalist. We will do anything or manipulate any truth to sell it so "Jwest you need to get your facts straight. Also, my father works as an auto mechanic and he got no training at all. All they need to do is fill the form, take the 1 test and BOOM you are a ACT certified masters mechanic.
If you think education is expensive; try ignorance. Get an education people so you are able to discern for yourself the lies of the republican reichwing. Take a look at the educational level in the so called "red states"; Now look at the poverty level, the amont of government food stamps, welfare, wick, out of wedlock births, child molestation out pace any blue state and guess why?.
Go to any top rated university in America and you'll find students from China, Japan and even India who excelled in math and science. Here they study medicine, engineering and other challenging disciplines. Meanwhile, many American students cop out and complain that the school work is too hard ( or interferes with their social life ). We can never hope to have our young people compete in the 21st century if the Santorum mentality dominates our society. He's not thinking global and he's not thinking ahead. He would be a disaster of a POTUS. Maybe he was just trying to appeal to the "Joe The Plumber" types. Yet he proved himself to be very narrow minded. That's the problem with being anti-Obama on everything. Obama is not always wrong and he wasn't wrong about education. Nice going Rick !
Republicans..this is for you!..I'm sorry your savior Santorum is an idiot! Education is a bad thing? Doesn't he know that the world is built on education?..Especially in the USA!
I hope Santorum gets picked as the nomination, so I could see Obama crush him the general election. Republicans, question....What is it about empowering and helping other people that you find so repulsive???
Way to go republican base...while you applaud Santorum for his "pandering" statement about education, liberal parents will be planning their children's college education. Guess whose children will have a better shot at success?
Children of stupid parents don't stand a chance. I feel sorry for the children whose parents are the "republican base". Sad, sad!
If Santorum is serious about becoming president of the U.S. instead of the village idiot club, he should emulate the Trappists and take a vow of silence. George W. Bush said a lot of goofy things, but at least he was rarely mean spirited. Santorum is mean spirited and a nut job based on the things he says.
Rick Santorum is a Papal Puppet - and should never be allowed anywhere near the White House or elected office again.
You can name-call and generalize all you want, Santorum, Obama is right on this one. Education opens the door to choices. A college-educated person can choose a job that doesn't require a degree, but an uneducated person cannot choose a job that requires advanced knowledge. And let's face facts. Educated people are less likely to be right-wing because in college people get facts; not leftist propaganda; and reality has a well-documented liberal bias.
Only stupid people wouldn't want their children to get an education that will help them be self sufficient.
Santorum, the more he talks the more he reveals that some who are educated are just as dumb as those who choose not to educate themselves. Obama 2012 like it or not.
Among the educated I have known, there are some I wouldn't trust to cross a street safely on their own and among the less educated there are some with whom I would entrust my life. Having said that, more education is better than less. Santorum is an egotistical idiot. The GOP should change its motto to "Ignorance Is Bliss". The Democrats should adopt "Knowledge Is Power" as theirs.
Mr.Obama is devaluing everyone's education. There were jobs for people without college degrees. They were all shipped out of the country(call center positions). As for the manufacturing jobs, I've worked quite a few as a college educated temp. Most people hired on are women and minorities(sorry, but it's the truth). So, you'll also have a better chance at one of those incredibly awesome, fun places to work, manufacturing jobs if you are female and anything but white.
Obama supporters, too many people are going to college and the four year degree is now a joke. It's not worth it. If the call center jobs were brought back to America, that would be a start for people who aren't interested in college. There are also other things, like sales, that don't require degrees and pay well.
Thankfully, when Bozo speaks, it is only other clowns who take him seriously.
OMG! I thought a good education was important for everyone to have as the Chinese, Koreans, Indians and Eastern Europeans are outpacing Americans in everything (Math, Science and most of all the English Language (even though it's a 2nd language to them)...Now I know why the label of "Stupid Americans" is so fitting...
I think all Americans should vote in a Republican candidate as America is on the road to it's demise...
GO China – Go India.....leave the stupid American is the dust...LMFAO!
Hey mike , agreed with your post up until you became a snob . I never thought of construction as the " easy way out " . Many apprenticeships are five years long . That's attending school while working full time . Many people who construct things are doing what they love . Sitting in an office is noy for me , doing the " manual labor " to build them is . By the way , do you know how much math and science are involved in construction ? Do you ? , jerk !
China is paying for college, and so is India. Just something to think about, since they both have over a billion people a piece....
Yes China learned the hard way that killing off your scientists, and other educated people is not good economics. They tried the back to the farm and it did not work out so good. Now they are producing scientists, economists, engineers. If we don't keep up we are are going to be saying you want fries with that, and our doctors, and engineers will be speaking any language but English.
Already they speak English...but with an accent.
Thanks....Those who truly educate their young regardless of cost will have the advantage for the future. Expecting young people to educate themselves which in most cases means they finish college with a mountain of debt that will bankrupt them seems to be an ignorant way to run a society...just saying.
Just when I thought Newt was presenting himself as the most ignorant candidate in the race – along comes Santorum to out ignorant the ignorant.
Now, Santorum if you are darn serious about this, what about pledging not to send your kids to college!! That's practicing what you preach. Bet you won't, just like Republicans fostering wars but not sending their kids to fight. I don't know about others, these Republican primaries and debates make me ashame of being an American. Is this the best we can offer??
As a college student, I am offended... And it is absurd to call the President a snob for encouraging individuals to reach a higher education to develop THEMSELVES.... Not President Obama, and not the Democratic Party.
Once Mr. Santorum gets elected he can start some re-education camps. Close those pesky colleges and universities with their liberalism and put all those liberals on farms and let them learn hard work. Oh wait the communists tried that and so did Pol Pot. So does that mean that Obama is not really a communist? And Santorum who is against intellectuals is? Hate to tell him and his sympathizers but every elected Republican in the last few years have been to the University, Harvard, Yale, Perdue, Morehouse, Duke, Whittier College, Eureka College, U of Michigan, Emory, Tulane, Stanford, and lets not forget TX A&M. Gee with all this liberal influence they must have been really strong not to be infected.
No one is against higher education. Quit trying to use it as a political issue. It is not.
I'm begging to think that it's either this Santorum is a complete nut case or he his in some fashion, working for Obama LOL. He is really just there just to spoil the show for Romney.
JUST ANOTHER CHURCH FREAK
some of the biggest no common sense having idiots in the world are college educated.
True. But MOST uneducated people are far worse in the common sense department. It's really not worth debating about. The stats speak for themselves. Educated people will earn far more as a percentage of the population than uneducated.
And the teahadists complain of all the immigrants in our country not knowing why many of them are here. Why are they here? Because they have an education while many white, southern and middle Americans don't.
Santorum has low expectations for America's youth by not encouraging the youth to go to college. Bet he told his kids to go. Obama 2012
This man is not only a "snob"; but he's the most lying president in the history of our country. And his spiked Cool-Aid drinkers are wearing those blinders so tight that any time you disagree with the president's spending and policies; you are branded a racist.
Well, I guess, in this case I am a Latino Democratic racist.
spiked coo-aid?.... wow, the reason maybe people like you are labeled a racist is because you say racist things, and think it's okay.
Also your ethnic group and political affiliation doesn't automatically excuse you from being racist. There are Gay Republicans' and Female Republicans, which are prime example that you can hate anyone and be in a minority group.
How about you just grow a pair and embrace your racist nature instead of hiding people your ethnicity and political party you coward.
A snob is someone who believes that some people are inherently inferior to him or her for any one of a variety of reasons, including real or supposed intellect, wealth, education, ancestry, taste, beauty, nationality, etcetera. Often, the form of snobbery reflects the snob's personal attributes. For example, a common snobbery of the affluent is the belief that wealth is either the cause or result of superiority, or both.
The descrition matches perfectly with republicans with the exception that republicans are ignorant. The worst combination arrogant and ignorant just like Palin
Holier-than-thou Santorum prefers that you stay uneducated and stupid so he can tell you how to live your life.
Of course Republicans are against education. Which educated person would vote for this party? They need an uneducated, ignorant, trailer trash voter base, so they work hard to make sure some of the country stays stupid.
What manufacturing jobs, didn't we spend the last 20 years sending those away?
The GOP has always been anti-education, hence the assault on Teachers that they had going for awhile. Vilifying them because they take pay cuts, for a better pension.
Santorum is an idiot, and did you read that comment, I don't want you to be like Obama, I want you to be the person your parents want you to be. Wth? So he wants us to be people without our own opinions and experiences. He's a loon.
Let me do your job for you by providing the actual quote from another site of Santorum saying . "President Obama once said he wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob."
For a candidate to come up with a line like this is weaker than weak. It's like Gingrich"s line about Obama being more for the Arab Spring than a Cuban spring or when some commenters bashed Obama for being more interested in apologizing about burning the Quran than the welfare of U.S. officers who were killed. All those weak commenters did was wait for the timing. Those officers died AFTER Obama's statement.
Is the GOP even capable of quoting our President correctly??? We all know what the President said...Thank You Mr President for wanting the best for all Americans and encouraging education after high school (college, trade or vocational school or whatever). If that's what being a SNOB is... well Mr President tilt that head back and put your nose in the air...Your Snob Army is behind you!!!!
Thank you, well said
Just wondering how many of you republicans think the colleges are trying to indoctrinate your children. I look forward to any who believe that to respond lol.
Give me a snob in the white house any day over santorum and his Taliban-christian ethics. By the way, if you want to call someone a snob, check out santorum's record here in Pennsylvania. He used our tax dollars to send all 100 (ok, well in the picture it looks like that many!) of his kids to a very expensive private school. Snob anyone??
What's even scarier than the anti-education stance is Santorums stance on Separation of Church and State". Wow.... It's not too hard to see that it would be Santorum waging holy wars on other nations, or at least instigating enough to cause more attacks on us. Our entire nation was built on a merging of culture, including religious freedom. To trash that would be to trash everything all of our soldiers have died for since the beginning of the revolution. Santorum is a very scary and in my opinion, an insane person who reminds me of Adolf Hitler. I can see him clearly trying to round up Muslims into concentration camps. We wouldn't allow it, but that's what half of the Republican voters are voting for? Even that's scary to me.
This is a pretty dumb argument don't you think?
I must say that Santorum's continual nitpicking and flailing away will not detract from the fact that he now appears to me to be in over his head. It is rather obvious what BO meant.
Michael in Montreal
Santorum had a chance, but he has shown himself as a political and religious extremist who has a problem with the real world versus his imaginary one.
Santorum prefers you are ignorant so you will swallow his BS. One of the most stupid comments made by a candidate pushing the dumbing down of the American people. Disgusting man!
Given the source of the "snob" comment, it doesn't surprise me. It does, however, offend me because there is such a lack of respect for the office of POTUS. The GOP/TP is so anti-education it's dangerous to our country's future! They glorify stupidity at every turn and have made outright lies commonplace. Is their constituency THAT dumb that they don't question these things?? President Obama is an intelligent, eloquent, poised, diplomatic, patient and compassionate person and I thank GOD he's our President. I guess Santorum's comment just goes to prove that he (and the GOP/TP) think ANYONE with an IQ over 80 is a "snob", eh? The GOP wants to keep the "dumbing down of America" going full force - WAKE UP FOLKS!!
At the rate Santorum is opening his mouth, he's well on his way to self-destruction....Let him continue!
what puzzle me is not what any republican politician say it normal in that circle to exibit ignorance and stupidity they seem to revel in their ignorance,it's the applause from their audience.
wonder what kind of portion they served and how long it takes to take effect.
Nothing is more snobby than wanting to share the opportunities you had, and making your exclusive club less exclusive.
It makes no difference what type of higher education you get, no one can take it from you. It belongs to you.
With clowns like these ..Do you wonder WHY Obama is going to win???
One thing for sure .. we at least have a President speaking in complete sentences rather than "The Decider" !
Santorum is an excellent case in point that a having a "higher education" doesn't necessarily guarantee "intelligence."
This guy is the worst brand of politician.
Reminds of MLK's saying that there is nothing more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
Santorum, are you getting this?
Republican politicians are astute and clever. Republican voters are ignorant and behave like sheep.
Republican politicians herd their voters like sheep. That is why ignorance is important for the GOP leaders
The worst of it is that republicans are arrogant and think they got it right. the worsecombination is and arrogant and ignorant person just like Palin...
What is it with people – particularly the left?
I've read/heard nothing from republicans stating they want to take away or deny the right to contraceptives – yet the left keeps saying it – as do many people who post comments on CNN. Saying is not FREE is NOT taking it away.
Santorum's comments are NOT anti-education – he's stating that not everyone is suited for college. That's a simple fact. Community Colleges don't teach trade skills – meanwhile, the POTUS and the left keep doing everything they can to shut down teaching trades in high-schools and in higher education.
We have limited resources – something the liberals who run most educational institutions don't understand or care about. Other than health costs, education costs have increased at a faster rate than anything else.
By the way – who was the number one visitor to the White House over the first three years of Obama's presidency – answer is – A. Stern – president of the teachers union.
Stop and think people! Stop taking the tag lines offered by the POTUS and the rest of the far left. The Democratic party was once great – now simply a campaign by blame machine.
As a college student myself, Santorum is 100 percent correct. Colleges and universities are nothing but a cestpool of the liberal agenda. I had a professor last semester who took time out of his teaching to pretty much bash any and all GOP candidates(P.S. this was a perspectives on communication class, not even a political science course or anything of the like.) Also, look at how many students waste their parents or the governments money to attend college and then fail to find a job because they didn't apply themselves while they were there. I don't think any political candidate wants Americans uneducated. Im guessing that Santorum, when he went to Pitt and PSU, probably experienced firsthand the liberal agenda of his profs. So, before any liberals accuse the GOP of brainwashing its voters by demeaningour current postsecondary education system , maybe they should stop and realize that colleges DO, without a doubt, try to shape the minds of its uninformed student population with a strictly liberal agenda.
PS. Before any of you try to make the case that I must be bitter toward college due to my own poor performance, you should know that I had a 4.0 last semster and am well on my way to duplicating that performance this semester
Santorum just wants everyone to be as uneducated and incapable of logical thinking as he is. Next - kindergarten is bad for kids!
The GOP electorate is actually at the point where attainment of higher education is seen as a negative. Reagan must be rolling over in his grave.
Reagan wanted to abolish the Department of Education. No rolling over in that grave.
We as a nation have produced the dumbest politicians ever to walk the earth. Santorum will do anything and say anything without thinking. He is pathetic. He sounds medieval. Then there is Romney. These two nuts make Newt Gingrich look like the best candidate.
Obama never said all kids should go to college. He said all kids should have the OPPORTUNITY to go to college IF THEY SO CHOOSE. Apparently, Brother Santorum needs remedial training in English.
Santorum is a travesty! He wants a preVatican II society where there are blue collar workers who don't need to be educated and the women stay at home raising several babies, homeschooling; and where Rick are you? Helping your wife? Of course not! This man is doused in snake-oil and is a very confused idiot. He's attacking anything he can get a grasp on...why in the hell would you want someone like that to be your president?
Hey here's an idea: how about letting the kid's DECIDE if they want to go to college. Some need it, some don't. Some want it, some don't. I went to college, and I'm using my degree. I know people who went to college that aren't using theirs. I know some who never should have gone, or would have done better at a tech school. And I know some that should have gone to college but didn't.
Obama and the Candidates should focus on making sure kids can go IF THEY WANT TO. Making sure financial aid is there for those who can't afford it (sometimes they are the ones who benefit the most), making sure high schools prepare kids enough.
When I have kids, I don't want them to be "remade" in anyone's imagine. Not even mine. I want them to be their own individuals, not carbon copies.
Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really enjoying what the Republicans are doing to themselves. The more they open their mouths the more we can be assured Obama will win this year AND...I think there's a huge possibility the Dem's could regain control of Congress!
They are just in such a bubble fantasy world and off track they don't even realize the point they are driving home to the people is that their goal is to control and oppress.
Dude, how much fun is it to watch this cluster F of a reality show that has become the right? I swear this is the most entertaining political environment ever. The right is completely self destructing and getting left behind by an evolving society. No one is giving them back the white house, not while the lunatics on their side are running things. And the republican in congress are sskkrreewweedd!! They had their landslide victory before and now they have the lowest approval rating in the history of the union. I dont want to jump the gun but I said it when Obama got elected, the republican party is dead. It simply doesn't fit in the evolution of America and everyone now sees this. Worst thing that could happen to the GOP, besides President Obama, is the information age. Its killing them slowly and like a train wreck you just cant help but watch.......and smile a little.
Seriously, wanting people to have more opportunities is some how wrong in santorum eyes. Not being educated is going to make it harder to get a job. What's the use of creating jobs if you have no one that can perform the task. As a man of faith as santorum claims, you a running a campaign that is misguiding, inciting disrepect, and lack of moral stability. If you are such a Christian just talk about your value system and leave other alone, talk about your plans to move this country forward, talk about what you believe and what you think somebody else believes. You are trying to become the President of the United States; not the president of the republican people.....
If I were a Republican supporter and were in the middle of cheering in support for this guy and all of a sudden he comes up with that, I think I'd have to sit down and swollow hard.
He's got at least 3 degrees. How did he not end up a left wing socialist?????
This is just politics. A game played by the rich and powerful to distract from the real issues. The 99 percent of us must realize we are all in this together, stop the silly bickering among the American population. That puts us in a position of being divided. The true enemy here is the way campaigns are financed. As long as those with wealth can fund campaigns the way a corporation sells toothpaste, we all lose and the wealthy get wealthier and laugh all the way to the bank. Let's all stop being the chumps and start demanding real changes and put the backbone of American back on the tracks towards a truly great nation again. Every opportunity the population of America has to ask questions of our so called "leaders", should be seized to ask what will be done about campaign financing. Perhaps our politicians could wear only clothing that has the logos of the corporations that fund them. That way, at a glance we will know why they are holding the views they hold.
Yea, he donneth the sweatervest of righteousness, and smiteth those who dare seek betterment and knowledge for their offspring, and for themselves! I saw Frothy talking to George Stephanopoulos over the weekend on ABC, and in one clip they showed Li'l Frothy McSweatervest referring to Universities (including PSU, the one this laughable hypocrite attended) as "Indoctrination Centers". This man wants the power to be able to tell you what to think rather than allowing you to, perhaps, challenge the assumptions you grew up with as you learn more about the world. Frothy knows what's best for you because Jeebus told him not to let you learn anything! I have nothing but contempt for this ridiculous demagogue and I hope he gets the nomination, because I know I'm not alone in my assessment of his witlessness and unsuitability for the office. Epic crtical thinking FAIL.
I wonder how Santorum can justify his desire to lead people of faith. He went to COLLEGE! He went to B-school! He went to Law School! Seeing what those institutions full of liberals do in their campaign to destroy religion, he must not even have a soul left!
And now, for the REST of the fascinating story of the Santorum family's financial success thanks to those pesky entitlement programs.
Although Rick Santorum, a millionaire, likes to claim that his grandfather was a coal miner, the grandfather, Pietro Santorum immigrated from Italy and was employed in the Detroit auto industry.
Once he was financially secure, Pietro, who did work in the coal industry at one point in his career, arranged for his wife and family in Italy to join him in America.
Pietro's son, Aldo Santorum, arrived in America at the age of 7.
Aldo Santorum served in the Army Air Corps during World War II. When he came home, he used the government provided G.I. Bill to go to college, eventually earning his doctorate in clinical psychology.
So Rick Santorum is the son of two college educated parents, (his father, Dr. Aldo Santorum was a doctor, his mother, Catherine, a chief nurse). They were both Government employees who worked for the VA and retired with government pensions . Their family lived in government provided housing on VA grounds.
Both Rick Santorum and his two siblings were college educated. His brother is a CEO and a resident of Hilton Head Island.
Rick Santorum earned a Bachelor of Arts degree (majoring in Political Science), at Pennsylvania State University (1980) He obtained a Master of Business Administration, University of Pittsburgh (1981) and his Juris Doctor degree at Dickinson School of Law (1986)
Rick Santorum's wife Karen is also college educated.
But Mrs. Santorum, 51, apparently wasn’t always committed to her husband's anti-Abortion, anti-Contraception cause. In fact, her live-in partner through most of her 20s was Tom Allen, a Pittsburgh obstetrician and abortion provider 40 years older than she, who remains an outspoken crusader for reproductive rights and liberal ideals. Dr. Allen, still active in the local chapter of the ACLU, has known Mrs. Santorum, born Karen Garver, her entire life: he delivered her in 1960.
This is, again, an accusation that the president is a heretic. Just like saying the science of global warming, and of the human contribution to it, is a heresy. Making our children in Obama's own image, is a theological contradiction. The bible says that, at least in the beginning, God made man in God's image. So, according to Santorum, Obama is a heretic.
On the other hand, I believe God gave men and women minds, and that he expects us to use them. Use our minds to learn, to experience, to reason, to solve quandrys and conundrums and delimnas that we find ourselves in in everyday life, and to do so in a way that says we want to lift each other up.
I heard an evanglist one time say that when men begin to think, that is when the devil sneaks in and takes over and destroys us. I am afraid Rick Santorum thinks the same way.
Well I think Obama and Santorum are both missing the ball on this issue. Higher education is great but in order for that to work our for us we need to actually have students that understand the high school curriculum. Looking at most of the inner city high schools and a large portion of most public schools, the kids wouldn't even be able to figure out how to be a day laborer let alone even have the motivation. You can't teach a person to jump when they don't even know how to walk yet.
Rick Santorum against education? He has a bachelors degree, masters degree and a degree from a law school, and has two kids in college...He is the biggest hypocrite I think I have ever seen.
It's in the GOPs best interest to keep people uneductaed. They want a feudal system with peasents working for the rich without questioning the system. They keep sinking lower and lower. Obama has my vote!
Education is every thing to man with out it we all would still be back in the stone age. Now we pick up a book instead of a STONE. How dare we not educate our children or do you want to be subservient to the world.
Anybody out there think that maybe our children should be able to decide their own image, and not be made into someone else's?
"Barack Obama is a person of the left. He is someone who believes in big government. He believes in the values that are, unfortunately, the dominant values, and political values, and overly politicized values, and politically correct values that are on most college and university campuses."
Does anyone else think this just complete gibberish without any real point or coherency?
Alright! Enough of this idiotic non-sense! I doubt any of you ever taught in a community college, and if you have shame on you for not agreeing with Santorum. Far to many young Americans don't have the opportunity to go to a four year college due to costs. The two year college is their only option beyond high school and certainly not everyone can
handle a four year school. Think of it this way; 50% of all high school graduates are not ready for prime time higher
education. In order to move forward we need an economy focused on these young people being employable in one skill or another. We also need an economic policy that supports jobs here and not abroad. So we need politicans who understand the needs of the population and not the othr way around.
Are all the soldiers that returned from WWII under the Gi Bill also snobs ?
Part of the american dream for over 60 years has been a home and a college education for your kids.
Why do the republicans hate the middleclass.
Because we don't vote GObP.
Because they want anyone who isn't the 1% to be peasants and serfs.
As a former Republican ( G.W.Bush made me change my mind ) I don't believe main stream republicans are against education, quite the contrary. The trend is for republicans in power (more specificaly Governors ) to push for profit -making privatization of schools at any level. This is in line with Wall Street mentality. The problem here is that many of these for-profit schools don't really care too much about the welfare of the student and the quality of education, they only care about the "Bottom line".
As for Santorum, I dont believe he speaks for the main stream republicans ( or for anybody with half a brain ) however, his personal opinions are a mere reflection on how he plans to govern and push his personal agenda IF and thats a big if he were to become President. and that my friends is truly a scary thought.
:0 What a joke!! Santorum is grade a idiot!!
Oh no!! :0 How trouble for the president to suggest an higher education!...Please!!! Get out of here. Santorum is just getting deperate now...Alll the GOP candidates are.
It's no wonder the GOP establishment is fuming about Santorum. He keeps letting the cat out of the bag.
Conservatives want to keep you stupid, so you don't complain about income inequality and fall for their Orwellian rhetoric. This isn't news.
He's not against education; he is against the government telling citizens what to do. Maybe we should all grow a pair and start making decisions for ourselves instead of waiting for King Obama to come rescue us.
King Obama? Are you serious? Before we grow a set. You need to grow a brain. Nobody believes Obama is king, Obama doesn't even believe that. He is only trying to help fix our situation. OUR meaning you and everybody else. OMG you are sooooooo blind!! How about this? Lets take Government completely out of everything. Privatize all industries...you think that will fix anything? NO. You know why? BECAUSE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO RUN PRIVATE COMPANIES BASICALLY RUN THE GOVERNMENT!! Actuallly why is there regulation anyway? OH I know because tooo many people messed up in the past that somebody has to pass laws to stop it. MEANING PRIVATE COMPANIES causes all this mess!!
I want goverment not to control my life with laws as much as I want corporations not to control my life with their economic impositions. If corporations are let to do whatever is easiest for them they WILL abuse their and our freedom and polute lakes, oceans, lands, the air we breath and anything as long as their profits and margings grow. That is why we need goverment to keep greed from hurting the world.
This guy is the fakest dude I have ever met. All he does is talk against the same thing he does. Santorum is the biggest Hypocrite on in politics today. Snob, are you kidding me. Does anybody remember how Obama got started? Working with the people. WTH has Santorum ever did for the poor? Nothing! Screw him and his party!
Education is to the GOP what dogs are to cats. Of course they aren't thrilled about people learning and experiencing more, conservatism is based in one track mindedness and stagnant beliefs. More education means less GOP. Proven scientific fact is evil and a story from a book found in the desert that was written a long time ago about magical sky beings is truth......however that works.
Yet another "tolerant" Dem!
I dont have a problem with religion until the religious start trying to run other peoples lives based on their beliefs. That is the problem with the right and religion, they want everyone to live according to their religion, which is nothing more than opinion, and that doesn't work for all of us. If you want to be religious and live by it then more power to you but you dont get to dictate how I live my life according to your religion(opinion).
@W When you address My God as some magical sky fairy/being, you prove you have a problem. Please explain How I am dictating your life? Once again, the president says he prays for guidance and then goes on to introduce policy that dictates your life! So that means you have an issue with him too, right?
Obama claims to believe in that "magical sky being". Yet you don't seem to have a problem with that!
It's very simple. If you have an untrained, uneducated workforce you can supress wages. You then go and hand pick a few educated people from schools with your personal leanings to run management. It is the classic model that caused the rise of unions to combat such behavior. If you have educated workers they may just find a way to do your business better and put you out of business. They might question illegal practices and processes.
You can see this clearly in China with recent issues around FoxConn. You have more educated workers coming into an undereducated manufacturing environment and questioning the abuses. Santorum would have us go back to that same mentality and then begin to start bringing religion back into the workplace, school and everywhere else he can. Lesser educated people that have few career choices tend not to question their bosses for fear of being unemployed.
You simply have to look closely at Santorum's true motives behind stupid statements.
There's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking.
George sure had it right.
Santorum can't be expecting any votes from anyone under 60. College students, vocational students, get out there and vote. Choose the candidate who wants you to do well, not the one who wants you to say no to education. Santorum is dangerous to our nation. He wants women barefoot and pregnant and workers to be satisfied with minimum wage jobs.
"Talking about the facts is too difficult so let just just throw mud at Santorum." Yep sounds like democrats.
Motto for Republicans: Ignorance is bliss. Motto for Dems: Knowledge is power.
Well, then, Tea, instead of throwing mud at democrats by saying that they're throwing mud at Santorum, why don't you present your facts?
So, really, why is that people become more liberal with more education? Santorum/conservatives say: "brainwashed". Might there be a more sensible, obvious reason?... How about learning to think for yourself? Then perhaps Fox and your preacher don't make sense any more.
santorium misunderstood obama's education plan. obama meant practical traing and work experience along with schhol /college /university education based on studens' abilities / ambition / affordability etc. schoralships for higher studies are for bright students, students' loans and private financing are for ambitious and affordability. practical job traing and work experience along with school education should be compulsory provided by scholarships and employers. u.s needs scientists, quality workers.and inventors. more inventions are made by non university degreed people but by students from vocational school graduates and through work experience. unversity degreed research scholars's inventions are generally desired by governments and private employers. but good majority inventions come from school educated, work experienced ambitious men (young and old). these kind of people are not dependent on university educated but on their individualism and imaginative minds. that is why this country is great. santorium, obama and gingrich are talking about the same thing to take care of all american people.
Really? so it is ok for his kids to go to college and himself and they are not snobs? Any American that agrees with that nut case just proved the whole world right that people say AMERICANS ARE STUPID. since when going to college is being a snob
Pretty section of content. I simply stumbled upon your weblog and in accession capital to claim that I get in fact loved account your weblog posts. Anyway I'll be subscribing to your feeds or even I success you get entry to persistently fast.
I think that is one of the most significant info for me. And i'm glad reading your article. However want to statement on few general issues, The website taste is ideal, the articles is really great : D. Excellent process, cheers
It's truly a great and helpful piece of information. I'm glad that you simply shared this useful information with us. Please stay us up to date like this. Thanks for sharing.
You can definitely see your enthusiasm in the work you write. The arena hopes for more passionate writers such as you who are not afraid to say how they believe. At all times go after your heart.
You could definitely see your expertise within the work you write. The world hopes for more passionate writers such as you who are not afraid to mention how they believe. Always follow your heart.
of course like your web site however you need to test the spelling on quite a few of your posts. Many of them are rife with spelling problems and I to find it very troublesome to inform the reality on the other hand I will certainly come back again.
I am really impressed with your writing skills and also with the layout in your weblog. Is this a paid topic or did you customize it your self? Either way keep up the nice quality writing, it's uncommon to see a great blog like this one these days..