(CNN) - The White House was quick to beat back congressional Republicans’ just-unveiled budget proposal Tuesday, declaring the measure “once again fails the test of balance, fairness, and shared responsibility.”
“It would shower the wealthiest few Americans with an average tax cut of at least $150,000, while preserving taxpayer giveaways to oil companies and breaks for Wall Street hedge fund managers,” said Dan Pfeiffer, the White House Communications Director.
“What’s worse is that all of these tax breaks would be paid for by undermining Medicare and the very things we need to grow our economy and the middle class – things like education, basic research, and new sources of energy,” he continued. “And instead of strengthening Medicare, the House budget would end Medicare as we know it, turning the guarantee of retirement security into a voucher that will shift higher and higher costs to seniors over time. “
Spearheaded by House GOP Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, the proposal calls for a $3.53 trillion budget for 2013 that would kill $55 billion in spending cuts aimed at defense and make up for them with savings elsewhere in the budget. Democrats and the White House contend the proposed cuts will exceedingly burden the middle and lower class.
“The House economic plan draws on the same wrong-headed theory that led to the worst recession of our lifetimes and contributed to the erosion of middle-class security over the last decade. And the President believes we cannot return to a failed theory that didn’t lead to the growth of jobs, incomes, or the economy,” said Pfeiffer.
More on the GOP budget from CNNMoney.com
Amen! I deftinitely agree with the president's stand because if their plan worked Obama wouldn't be elected, plan and simple!!!
Wake up America your debt is going to make Greece look right wing but don't worry your great grandchildren might start to pay it back
Time to wake up in the Libs Undies!
Do Not curse a man, err, person, unless you have walked a mile in his,,,err, the person's Underwear!
Yes, Libs are so funny in their Underwear!
Some Libs are very visual and are opinionated on correct outfits, but MOST are spectators of such.
See their choices of Underwear here:
Caution, might upset some of the Libs and DemocRats:
Parental Discretion Advised.
Debbie Was-serman-Shultz NEEDS YOUR GREEN-Help!
At $4.00 PLUS Gas Prices,,,
and you can thank her in your email to her Federal Government Email Address,,,,,
And all the other DemocRats Need your Help... (A lot of GREEN-Help Backs)
She needs YOU to give to her GREEN-BACK, back to work help, to get her back TO WORK
(before you pay for your Gas to get to work)!
Help all the Representitives that are wanting to help you and Better HELP the other Representatives get their Jobs back, before the next SHELLACKING!
History Lesson => Representatives run every 2 YEARS, THEY CAN BE REPLACED in the next Election!
Debbie may not have enough money to get to her next MSM Prop A Ganda
promotion, where she is degrading Repubs!
Brother, Sister,,, Can you spare a Dime to degrade Repubs (rather than feeding your Childern and Pets with the NEW and IMPROVED high priced Foods)?????
Come on! It will help you in the Long Run!
Obama Money helps us all!
Can you look at this and tell me what is actually wrong with any of what is being said?????
Just a couple of minutes of your time!
Let it all hang out! Don't hold back!
Jean2009,,,, what are you're thoughts (grin)....
Budget?? Didn't realize the Dems knew what that word means so how can they bash it???
Because George W. Bush had a real handle on it too, huh? And Reagan? And every President of my lifetime except for Clinton. Someone has a short memory.
This all started wiht FDR.. Keyiensien (SP) were in play to "help" drag us out of the recession... The peoblem is that FDR figured out it was a way to buy votes... All other president since them have used this strategy to "buy" your vote with the promise of giving you something for free... Or maybe better stated that they will borrow money to nenefit your individua good... and its free.... Remember nothing is free... it posts past I projected that the current president would exceed Presdent Bush in defict spending in 3 years or at least before the end of his first term... Reported yesterday that is has happened.... Not free money .... you, your children, and you grand children willbear this burden. So much for passing along a better life to you decendents. Remember this government is of the people, by the people, and for the people... how many of you would spend this way?????
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FACT:
Representatives are elected every 2 years!
If you are happy with $4.00 PLUS per GALLON of GASOLINE,,,
Vote for YOUR CURRENT REPRESESNTATIVE,,,
If You are NOT HAPPY with $4.00 PLUS a Gallon Gasoline,
VOTE your Current REPRESENTATIVES OUT of Office,,,
Unless they are fighting for your Freedom and LOWER Gas Prices!
Imagine if you will,,,,
On a Planet close to the Sun,,,,
Just 3 Planets away from the Sun,,,
There were folks looking for Drama,,,,
Such that those folks wanted to Hope and Change that Planet,
to something else,
MUCH LESS FREEDOM and MORE GOVERNMENT TYRANNY....
What would you do?????
As a Freedom Lover,,,,
would you remove the button (Such as removing CABLE NEWS -- DRAMA)
would you remove ESPN and DISCOVERY and DISNEY CHANNELS?????
or would you allow Free Speech ,,,,,
and then LEARN....
That DRAMA is not really what it is hyped?
Are you kidding? The Dems don't know what a budget is? Get real. How about good old Bush and his boys who never saw a budget that they didn't screw up royally. How about the Republican Party taking control of both houses under Bush and blowing a huge surplus into a gigantic deficit! Stop being so partisan and deal with the facts.
Bush inherited a recession from Clinton..."officially" started 39 days after he took office...that and 9/11 turned the annual surpluses into annual deficits. nothing Bush did...and BTW the entire amount of the surpluses over 4 years in the latter Clinton years and beginning of the Bush years is equivalent to 4 months of Obama deficits!
about as fascist a budget as you can get! money money for the wealthiest and everyone else gets their crumbs!
cut the tax breaks for exxon etc!
Starting with Reagan, who ran up more debt than EVERY other President before him combined and then adding Bush's unfunded Wars and Tax Giveaway to the rich ($4Trillion in Bush Debt), the GOP has destroyed our country. They can try to blame Obama but the facts don't lie – we are where we are largely due to the Reagan and Bush Debt. Luckiliy, Clinton was able to balance the Budget in between these two GOPers.
It is interesting to note that Pres. Regan reduced taxes to a maximum bracket of 28% until he discovered that was unsustainable. But, at the same time, he cut infrastructure spending in half–thereby starting the long slide of deteriorating infrastrucuture. The cuts in spending are not noticed until years later–after people get accustomed to the low taxes. To restore infrastructure, we would have to raise taxes–but of course the Republicans are absolutely against that. So, we may be doomed to a future of crumbling roads, bridges, power grids, airports, etc.
Look Facts, you need to go a little further back on this... TRY as far back as FDR. get your "FACTS" straight. Thi is known as Keyneisian economics. Used by FDR at first to pull us out of the great depression and later tobuy votes.
Wish the Bush admin for the 8 years they ran it up knew what that word meant! What a bunch of hipocritical conservative fools!
Hmmm so the simple fact that Obama has done more to the deficit in 3 1/2 years means nothing ..... Does this mean you are a hipocriticall liberal fool?
No it simplye means that you are gullable. Hmmm is there a chance that you might undersand this??? Doubtfull but I am rooting for you
Bill – you are the one espousing Keynesian (the correct spelling BTW) economics! There are two models for that in a recession.. you know, the one Bush left for Obama after 8 yrs of unfettered give-aways to the military/industrial complex, two wars and an $850 BILLION Bank bailout led by the then Tres. Sec – former CEO if GS... where GOVT SPENDS when private investment is non-existent. That's what happened. You can't fix 50 yrs of GOP failed policies over night.
What do Rethugs know about budgets? The three biggest spenders in White House history were Nixon/Ford, Reagan, and Bush II.
Yeah...Big Spenders who took from the Poor and gave to the Rich. Talk about "Redistribution of Wealth"! I guess that's why the top 1% has 43% of the nation's financial assets while the bottom 80% has only 7%!!!! How DO the Republicans get ANYONE (other than the top 1%, of course) to vote for them?
You are so wrong. Obama has increased the National Debt more in 3 years that George Bush did in 8. And I'm a Democrat so don't try and say its a republican thing.
Actually you forgot the BIGGEST spender – Obama
Bill in Flroida – Wrong, Wrong anf Wrong again. Obama is by far the biggest spender in our history. His presidency is loaded with give aways to his campaign bundlers and other supporters – his strategy is to buy votes and contributions.
As far as Medicare goes What don't you understand about the average person get's $3 in benefits for every dollar contributed? Hell yes – we need to fix that!!! Medicare as it stands cannot continue. People need to atart to take responsibility for their own care and stop depending on the government.
Have you looked at OhBummer's spending lately? It's something like three times Bush's highest annual deficit.
Ron – Bush didn't include the Iraq and Afghan wars in his budget. He also did nothing to turn the economy around. That is an expensive endeavor that will pay off in the long run. That's Obama's goal, fixing problems over the long term so that the financial burden is not overwhelming in the present, just like most people's mortgages.
There is no alternative solution.
The democrats and the white house had three years to develop a balanced budget proposal but haven't even tried while the republicans have presented two. They are very quick to criticize the work in the house but cannot even consider the halt to their spending spree. They are so incompetent in managing other people's money.
@badguy, think about what you just said. How does one rob a poor man and gain anything? Secondly, we are not spending less on the poor, we are spending more every year. If anyone is having anything stolen its all of our children that one day will pay for our out of control government wars and welfare. If we like the current state of our government, then we all need to pay a lot more. The Bush tax cuts rolling back for all would be a start. I would be more upset with a welfare system that is totally unaccountable and won't eve publish how much of every dollar it gets goes to beneficiaries. The estimates are around 26cents. If that is true, that is simply disgusting and if the government were a charity it would be shut down as a scam.
WRONG !!!! Obama is number 1, and no one is about to catch him
Wron is correc, reported nationaly yesterday that in 3/12 years Obama has increased the deficit more that Bush did in 8 years. plain and simple. he is trying to buy your vote people what he is not telling you is that you will pay for it in the end.
exactly, Obama is in bed with big corporations, he wants to spend spend spend and make sure big business gets what they want
Hm, interesting, so boosh wasn't in bed with the bin ladens? For 50 years?
And Republicans don't??? Just check out all the "goodies" they want to give "Big Corporations". Hey..."Big Corporations" pay their bills!
Hey Shades,or are they blinders.Pres Obama does work with corporations to come back from overseas,start jobs here,not like Bush,who gave tax breaks when they did go overseas,remember.Under your idol Bush,we lost more jobs than ever before,check your facts,not Fox.Bush gave the 1%ers a tax break at the middleclasses expense.All his deregulating killed many jobs,but the 1% ers worth almost tripled under his reign.. So you republican hypocrites check your facts before you speak like a cryin idiot....
The data doesn't back up your accusation. If you want to find out who is truly in Big Money's pockets, just follow the money. Though he is clearly not a socialist, Obama is getting 90% of his campaign funding from small donations. The inverse is true of Romney: 90% of his funding comes from big donors.
Yes I see it now, Obama is pushing his socialist agenda by being in bed with the capitalists. And the whackos cant understand why people all over the world are laughing at them.
Budget proposal just released and bashing by the DEMonics started in a matter of few hours. I take my hat off to the democrats, they can read as fast as they can spend.
Here is the Teapublicans “contribution” to the United States recovery… and this is just since the Midterms. (Source, Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress)
46 bills on Abortion
107 on Religion
77 on Family Relationships
39 on Marriage,
456 on “Govt. Investigations”
74 on firearm/Gun Control
Declared Pizza a “Vegetable”
Banned human fetus’s from food (whatever that means???), and…
Re-confirmed the UNCHALLENGED national Motto!
These people aren’t fit to run a daycare centre.
Facts are relevant, name calling is not ... what say we started calling you DeMoNCrAts?
A little tip ... never slap th perosn you have to work with, it makes for a poisionous environment and you will always be wondering if that will come back to you... most people will ignore you after the first jab.
Hmmm from what I read, pizza being a vegetable is a bi-partisan effort... ;-) certainly one of the more signficant efforts allowed by Harry Ried! LMAO
@Bill – and you just go finished admonishing someone for name calling. LOL . Pot!
These idiots won't stop spending until they bankrupt the country and then they will have even more power. That's what happens when we elect a boy to do a man's job.
again with the name calling .... I detest this on both sides.
Now, it seems to be a trend to make all citizens dependent on the US goverment for their means to live. To maked religion (especially) catholicism a state acceptable religion by telling them that their religfous beliefs are not acceptable to the Governmentof the USA. restricting the private sectors ability to grow and expand to generate jobs....
That is not an underqualified person doing a job... this person knows exactly what he is about.. AND you are not seeingit brcause you are to busy fighting each other to pay attention to him.
You need to do a little research on Congressional Budgets in recent years, and not just repeat right wing rhetoric. That way you won't appear so ignorant.
In recent history it was a republican president (GW) who took a surplus and turned it into trillions in deficit in just eight years. Democratic President Clinton actually left a surplus as he left office. Does this jog your memory?
Don't give Clinton credit for the decrease in spending and the deficit reduction, it was a Republican controlled House and Senate that accomplished that. Remember the President doesn't have spending authority the congress does. The big spending run up under Obama was accomplished because the democrats controlled both. Clinton was smart enough to understand that if he worked with the Republican led congress he could get re-elected.
acdcguy lies. Just like the demonrat he worships.
What is the ....
I mean when he is not telling Unionized Police that they are acting Stupidly
mentioning that if he had a Son, the Son would look like Hank WIlliams Jr?
See Hank Williams Jr in the 2 videos below:
Americans are tired of always ending up between Barock and a hard place !!!
Looks like good bumper sticker material. It is right up there with "RUINATION", "OBAMANOMICS" "TELL BARACK I'M BROKE", "CONFUSE A LIBERAL; USE FACT AND LOGIC", "WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN", DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR OLD GUY AND HOT LADY", "VOTER CAUSED DISASTER" "OBAMACARE, YOU CAN'T CURE STUPID" this next one should get the dems going "REPUBLICANS WORKING LIKE CRAZY TO SUPPORT THE LAZY".
the funniest part of your post is that you refer to Palin as HOT LADY....disgusting! You Rethugs need to go back to the woods and hills where you belong.
Oh and why would your 'working like crazy' comment bother any of us Dems.....it was our policies that are strengthening this economy despite the Neo-Con controlled Congress' best efforts to push it back into the Bush era recession you all so enjoyed!
So you are against medicare, health care, growth of the middle class and support more hand outs for the ubber rich and corporate tax dodging companies. As a percentage of income the middle class are carrying the rich on their backs in taxes. Please tell me why the 1% need more? They have NOT created jobs as promised only President Obama's plans have created jobs inspite of a just say NO congress. The GOP has not figured a way to solve the health care issues other than to strip the great ideas president Obama has put in to action and go back to where it was before where a woman with a C section is a pre exisitng condition, where age is a preexisting condition. The market cannot support what you want your failed GOP ideas will bankrupt this country and our health care we have already tried it your way for 10 + yrs and it failed miserably.
YES ... i'm against hand outs to the rich ... so, please STOP sending money to the Obama reelection campaign !!!
Obama has already squandered 5 TRILLION dollars, and once again, he's asking hard working Americans ... who are pinching their pennies, thanks to his failed policies ... to send him a BILLION dollars, to save HIS job.
@Howard – shame on you... TROLLING again..!!
once again. The class warfare was started by LBJ in 64 to give those who aint got a little more. Since liberals say the 1% does not pay their share, guess who has paid for it since 64.
My favorite bumper sticker of all is: OBAMA / BIDEN 2012.
Yeah that one is the funniest... I almost cracked a rib laughing so hard at one of them when I drove past and read it. I didn’t know people actively advertised their stupidity here in Texas...
Well, my favorite is actually "Obama 2016"!
Texans don't have to advertise their stupidity. They are ranked last in the nation for the number of people that have high school diplomas. But hey, at least there aren't in the top ten for having the fattest people....they are 12th.
The state of Texas shows its ignorance by repeatedly voting for Ricky Perry.
No Howard. Americans are tired of the GOP trying to reward oil companies, the wealthy, and military spending on the backs of the middle class and poor.
A ridiculus statement of unfair ideologies with a price tag does not make a feasible budget. But, your friends will use this worthless piece of paper to claim that the Democrats are incapable of producing a budget. Ryan's 'budget' will never pass through Congress nor be approved by the President.
It's all smoke and mirrors.
lol I like how Howard tries to compare the budget to Obama's campaign fund-raising! Ridiculous Neo-Con gibberish!!!!
A "hard Place" will look pretty good if a Republican gets elected to the Presidency. Being "flushed down a toilet" can be VERY disconcerting!
The first 3 years the republican can blame it on the last guy!! Thats bummer did.
Americans are tired of both parties claiming they want to balance the budget, while proposing to do entirely on the backs of the other party's supporters.
ACTUALLY, the economy is getting better, and things are improving. Mitt Romney said it himself...
Did he say that recently or last week?
then those American's should hate GW Bush.
That's funny both you and Howie consistently ignore the proposed budgets of the Dems repeatedly shot down by the GOP because they included a modest tax increase from those that have been raping us for a decades. And on top of it you support that rhetoric like it's a badge of honor. Go crawl back under your rocks.
Hey dummy, it's been over a thousand days since the democrates have submitted a budget, you goofy cool aide drinker.
It is the responsibility of the HOUSE to propose the budget. It is not a partisan issue. The house is currently controlled by the GOP at this moment and therefore the budget has been proposed. And as a side note, the Democrats have proposed ideas in which the house has shot down as was previously stated. Maybe you should relook on how the budget process works within our government. It is not the job of parties or the president to bring forth the budget. It is the job of the House and than it moves to the next step in the process. Eh hem.
Racer B. Who is the dummy? I hate when haters like you and the GOP complain that the Dems never submitted a budget. The GOP blocked it several times and the President in turn didn't insist to prevent been called a dictator. He try to work with the GOP and as you know, they(GOP) refused. They (GOP) rather see the country fail than be successful under this President. Have we forgotten so quickly, what the GOP said back in 2009 and 2010? GOP forgetten that there is something called digital video recorder.
" I want this President to fail"; said by many Tea Party House Republicans and Senators
"My number 1 goal is to prevent this President from been elected for the 2nd term"; Senate Minority Leader-Mitch McConnell
Most of the President proposals were blocked by the Republic Senate from becoming laws and now they (GOP) turn around to blame the Dens. Seriously, GOP prevented Dems actions and now blame Dems and President for the devastating consequences.
Simple Science theory: For any action, there most be a consequence. Oh I forgot, the Repubs don't trust Science, what a sad bunch.
SAMDC – GO READ. You are so wrong.
We would be much better off if BO failed at "Obamacare" instead of shoving it down our throats. We would be much better off if BO failed and didn't bail out GM while at the same time giving them 48 billion in tax breaks. We would be much better off if BO failed at giveing so called green companies billions just to see them fails and waste all of our money.
As far as the goal of getting BO out. Thats what political people do. Do you think BO has been campaigning for several years now so he can help the repubs beat him in the next election?
I do not usually call people names on this site, but you are a fool to follow this administration blindly (unless of course you work for the governmnet and never expect to work in the private sector again.
Stopping spouting GOP talking points, a budget was agreed to last yr that set targets with cuts in defense and discretionary spending. The Republicans have just ignore the budget they agreed to last year with this fantasy proposal from Rep. Ryan, that ignores all our commitments and wishes everything away.
"We would be much better off if BO failed at "Obamacare" instead of shoving it down our throats. We would be much better off if BO failed and didn't bail out GM while at the same time giving them 48 billion in tax breaks. We would be much better off if BO failed at giveing so called green companies billions just to see them fails and waste all of our money."
Please provide at least some sort of explanation of how we would be better off instead of just making claims.
"As far as the goal of getting BO out. Thats what political people do."
But that's not what they are supposed to do.
John.. When presented with facts and one has no way to defend him/herself anymore, they result to childish name calling. Fact is fact brother. How come you left out that GM paid back all or majority of their loan WITH INTEREST to the government, don't you think that aspect will be essential to your example?
I do not support any President just because they are from my party, however, I support A President that believes in the American dream and the American Spirit.
Many American writers believes in power of motivation, that's why many motivational books are written and sold here in American compared to any other countries. Here is a President that did just that-The American dream. Instead of people like yourself to see that any goal(s) you set for yourself are achievable with hard work and with the American Spirit, unfortunately, you are cought up by the foolish rhetoric spewed by Jealous few.
As for the Affordable Health Care Act-aka Obacare in your exampl, was the very core of Republicans concept to solve our rising health care cost since 1995 even up till 2008. Individual responsibility, not government dependability Then everything changed when Obama decided to borrow that same concept and now, it's a bad thing. Even Mitt defended individual mandates back in 2006 and again in 2008. So sad that people forget things out of hatred and vote against thier own interest.
Good example- Wisconsin. Back in 2010 at the heat of the Health Care debate, democrat governor was voted out in place of a Republican candidate. Personally, I think the people of Wisconsin deserve how he (Gov. Walker) treated them. They voted against their own interest because of Obama, simple. And now, they want to recall Walker-good luck with that Wisconsin.
Again, as for me, Republican or Democrat, if you believe in the American Dream and Spirit of never give up and never surrender, you get my vote. I don't know about you John, but that's me.
@John....you post is full of opinion....so YOU go read lol Go read how much money was poured into Bush's wars ($1.3 trillion and counting) and how much Haliburton and Bush's Oil Cronies profited from said wars. read on dummy
The only democrat budget that was proposed was the President's own budget and it was voted on and defeated. Not only did every Republican vote against it, but every Democrat did as well. By the way, the Senate has been in control of the Democrats since Obama took office, not to mention that in his first two years, he controlled the house and senate. Since the Republicans took control of the house a year and a half ago, they've submitted seven major budget proposals to the Senate, which has refused to vote on any of them. As far as the "defeat the president at all costs" that was Nancy Pelosi's speech in 2006 against George Bush.
The american dream and american spirit are things that people have aspired for in the past. Our current president wants to gift it to everyone. I'm sure that sounds appealing to the lazy but giving out and out to people destroys our spirit, ingenuity etc.. When you bailout a company like GM you tell all other companies that there is a safety net for your stupidity which leads to excessive risk taking. America is about people creating their futures...not having them gift wrapped because it's unfair if you actually have to work for your success.
I have health insurance I wouldn't be able to afford thanks to Obamacare.
It's nice that you have health insurance that you can afford, but maybe you should shut your mouth and allow others to enjoy the same opportunities that you enjoy.
@John, really, you want to complain about $48B in tax breaks for the auto industry? First of all, I thought you tea baggers were all about tax breaks for the rich and corporations. Second, what about the $900B in tax subsidies that the oil and gas industry got in 2010 while they were announcing record profits?
The bailout of the auto industry saved thousands of jobs, got them back to where GM is #1 in the world again, and all three of them posted profits for the first time in ages. Oh, and all of them are planning on adding thousands more jobs over the next couple of years as they ramp up production. What exactly did the $900B to oil and gas get us? And that cost as much as the entire Obama stimulus, and that's only one industries subsidies.
why would palossi say that in 2006? Gdub was elected in 2004. in 2006 you'd be talking about a lame duck. dumb
AnneMarie – The Senate has blocked every budget related bill that was sent to them by the House. The Senate has never brought a budget bill forward. Obama has though and his budget was totally bipartisan – EVERY dem and repub voted against it.
John – EVERY Dem and Rep voted against Obama's proposed budget because his budget was middle of the road. Democrats thought he appeased the right too much. Republicans just want what they want and won't compromise at all. This is why I will continue to vote for President Obama....he is the only true independent left in our government. Every other moderate-independent politician from both sides have bailed.
yes. it's politics. it should be clear that hardly anything gets thru without a fight nowadays so passing a multi-trillion dollar budget is all but impossible. Obama submitted a budget on time and Dems voted it down to avoid the political fallout and the stymied process. Dems mostly agree on the content of Obama's budgets, however, which is why smaller measures contained therein repeatedly get attached to smaller spending resolutions.....e.g., raising taxes on the "(NOT) job creators" to pay for things that folks hurt by the recession might actually need.
You go, Ann Marie. These GOP loones will do anything to protect their rich friends.
What do the poorest cities in this nation have in common: Democratic leadership......It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats .... yet they are still POOR – why is that?
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
(1st on the poverty rate list)
hasn't elected a Republican mayor
Buffalo, NY (2nd)
hasn't elected one since 1954
Cincinnati, OH -(3rd)
Cleveland, OH -(4th)
Miami, FL – (5th)
has never had a Republican mayor
St. Louis, MO – (6th)
El Paso, TX – (7th)
has never had a Republican mayor
Milwaukee , WI -(8th)
Philadelphia, PA -(9th)
Newark, NJ -(10th)
Einstein once said,
'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results.'
"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up
by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man
by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage
by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,
what they could and should do for themselves."
Where did you get you info?
October 12, 2011 via US Census Bureau
1. Brownsville-Harlingen, Texas:
Number below poverty line: 145,961
Poverty rate: 36.3 percent
2. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, Texas
Number below poverty line: 258,114
Poverty rate: 33.4 percent
3. Fresno, Calif.
Number below poverty line: 246,196
Poverty rate: 26.8 percent
4. Tallahassee, Fla.
Number below poverty line: 89,057
Poverty rate: 25.7 percent
5. Visalia-Porterville, Calif.
Number below poverty line: 107,660
Poverty rate: 24.5 percent
6. El Paso, Texas
7. Bakersfield-Delano, Calif.
8. Flint, Mich.
9. Corpus Christi, Texas
10. Mobile, Ala.
@nofoodnowork – why are all the poorest states in America solid red-Republican states? So, what's your point?
Since you aren't good at researching, I will help you with this as well. Only 2 of those cities/county's are have a Democratic majority – Fresno & Flint.
HEY NOFOODNOWORK,go get a job,ya run that same crap on every blog,and are always discredited.So park your fact sheet and let's talk about how you republicans have screwed up this country.You and Truth must not much of a social life,you too are always cryin fool.Must be married to Democratic wives,sore losers,even in love..This is another Paul Ryan abortion,it'll never go anywhere because people with some knowledge,CBO,say it'll put us DEEPER in debt.Check your facts,LOL check FOX...
LINCOLN UNITED A DIVIDED COUNTRY ... AND, OBAMA HAS DIVIDED A UNITED COUNTRY !!!
To think that the country was united under Bush is revisionist history of the worst kind–it's opposite of truth. Under Bush, this country was united for a very short time–just after 9/11. When Bush made the decision to invade Iraq, from that point on we had a divided country again. To say it was united when Obama came in is nothing short of a bald-faced lie.
@Howard- REALLY? You seriously believe that we had a united country BEFORE Obama took office? Which rock are you still living under? The only division that is occurring is that folks like you have been drinking too much kool-aid, and need to do some fact checking – before you troll. But then, the GOP is pretty short on facts these days. And, no I'm not a Dem !
Do you have a clue what you are talking about? The country was divided BECAUSE the conservatives of the day could not stand the thought of Lincoln being President and they divided the country by seceding from the country rather than have a "liberal" President advocating the end of slavery. He united it by being willing to go to war with them to prevent them from diving the country. The country only reunited because he won the war.
The same mindset exists today. Conservatives would rather divide the country than have a black President. Rick Perry even talks of Texas seceding from the Union and the Tea Party Republicans love that talk. President Obama has done everything possible to keep the extremists from carrying out their devisive strategy. He is consistently willing to compromise his positions. Not a single Republican will support him in any measure. THEY want a divided country. Conservatives throughout history have always been willing to do whatever it takes to get what they want.
Your kidding...right? The country that was divided when Lincoln was elected is STILL divided!
Actually, Lincoln didn't unite the country. I'm pretty sure he was shot before the war was over, not to mention that South that kinda hated the North after... So I don't think your history is spot on.
What divided this country is the redistribution of wealth to the wealthiest that began with Reagan and ended in financial collapse with Bush. What will unify this country once again is a restoration of a fair tax policy that neither punishes wealth nor leaves most of the population without any financial security. For the middle and lower class to provide financial support to the wealthiest is Republican perversity and must be ended for everyone's sake.
Are ya bi polar Howard,ya sure are nasty,nasty people rattling off like you ,get me wonderin,must be bi polar.That's it....If anything Pres Obama got us to BELIEVE we're great again,not so much with your Bush.With Bush, countries stayed clear of us like lepards,don't ya remember,or do you, like Truth ,have besides being bi polar,also have selective memory.Republicans do have that gene ya know....
you said: "countries stayed clear of us like lepards (sic)
Exactly what countries would that have been?
@Steveo,most of Europe with Bush,China laughed at his speeches remember,he couldn't get off the stage.Middle East,sent your elustreous leader Bush packing,when went to ask OPEC to lower prices,remember.The only countries willing to work with us were the ones will financially supported with foriegn aid,do your homework big boy....
You ask me to do my homework? Let's review this, shall we? I asked you about countries and the first thing you tell me is "most of Europe". This may be a bit picky but Europe is NOT a country! It appears I'm not going to be alone during homework time!
Hey...the Republicans WORK for the top 1%. Passing increased taxes on them is a BIG NO-NO! The funding for the Republican Party would go "Bye-Bye"!
The WH prefers its own budget, you know, the one that the CBO says will increase our debt by another $5 trillion over the next 10 years.
don't for get that the CBO also says the GOP budget will increase the deficit by 13 trillion....so it's only fair if you use the same source for your numbers.
complete B.S. amazing how stewpid liberal fools are.
So, yet again let's feed the war machine and starve our citizens. Yeah, that sounds like a great plan. I'm sure this will get a lot of people off welfare and unemployment. Can we please elect a viable congress this time?
Absolutely. When Obama had a democratic Senate, it was his first two years and he wanted to work in a bipartisan fashion. The Republicans spit in his face (and the faces of those who voted him into office.) We need to give the advantage back to Obama and let him do what clearly has to be done.
Tom,you're right ,the rightwing republican warhawks,love a war,a smoke screen of sorts.To distort the truth much like Bush and Cheneys did in Iraq,like the no bid contracts Cheneys Halliburton got,first of its kind for a war.A war,not a freeken country club ,that's the most assanine thing I've ever heard,are ya proud republicans for raping this country of its youth and billions a month,FOR WHAT,NADA,NADA....
Am so sick of this #$%&, WERE’s the Democratic Budget WERE!!! How can anyone sleep in Washington with a 15 Trillion dollar debt? Either their Stupid or Super Stupid. I absolutely have No Trust in the u.s. government to solve this. I spell (u.s. government) small because that FIAT money their printing is shrinking the dollar. (buy Gold and Silver ) if you want to survive this madness.
How good of them to give more tax breaks to the wealthy, paid for by the poor and middle class! Perfect plan except for the fact that during the Bush years, they created more POOR than weathy and reduced millions of middle class to poor. Do they realize that the poor and middle class are still able to vote...Oops, guess that will be the next solution. Bar the poor from voting.
Bar the poor from voting. They already doing that. Most Red states has passed voter ID laws that makes it difficult to even register to vote. I thought in American law system, you are presume innocent before proven guilty. Why is the law assuming everyone is guilty? Simple, prevent the poor to vote because they might vote for the Democrats.
I sincerely doubt the White House even read the budget. Eric Holder bashes laws he never reads, and Pelosi passes bills she never reads. They just bash it because they have no plan to solve the spending problem themselves. Pathetic
Republicans also never read these bills. And they never consider cutting other areas that they want to protect themselves aka subsidies for oil companies or defense. Defense makes up a huge chunk of the budget. All are guilty in this game of checks and balances.
No need to, it's just another piece of teabagger crap that only makes things worse.
Repukes have PROVEN they cannot run the economy.
Whoa Bob, cut back on the kool-aid and the MSNBC. It's not healthy.
They are experts at RUINING the economy, though.
Thanks Bob...your vile hate filled rhetoric proves you are nothing but a mouthpiece for the extreme left with no substance to back up what you accuse, making anything you "argue" going forward moot. I appreciate the quick identifying characteristics so I can dismiss any of your posts from here on out.
You do realize there is nothing even remotely approaching an extreme left wing movement in this country, don't you? That Obama is too conservative for most of the rest of the first world? That calling someone who dislikes teaparty folks 'vile' and 'hate filled' drips of irony? And that your air quoting of 'argue' and your promise to immediately dismiss all future opinions (that's what you were responding to, not an argument) you don't like is especially fitting, considering the GOP only has opinions on issues these days, not arguments supported by facts. The GOP has, for the last decade at least, made a practice of ignoring, rewriting, or simply making up their facts to support their opinions. If you are actually a reasonable person, take that reason and apply it the GOP. There is nothing there today.
@C-lo – but the same thing from the right is perfectly OK?
That's right, Bob. Don't call members of the Tea Party, 'teabaggers', even when they call your President names.
And, don't correct their lies, unless you can provide references to Faux Views or Rash Limpbag.
But, most of all, make sure that you return their abuse with a smile on your face!
@ REAL Truth and getreal
Absolutely not...I addressed those (like howard) in the past and just know that he'll continue his antics. I don't take him any more seriously than I do Bob or, now, getreal.
I agree– and the hate spewed by people supporting them is just beyond any intelllect
Republican, collective, we must assimilate you, resistance is futile mindless "We Are Borg" sheep being lead to the slaughter. With no viable republican replacement candidate for 2012 presidency. No matter how you slice the American Pie, Again, as in 2008, and now in 2012, Obama is America's our best choice. Period! Get use to it. LOL!
If you replace the word republican with Democrat it would make sense. Didn't you get the memo? America is being changed to something no working American will like. Romney, Santorum, or even Newt are all better for the working people of this country.
John, people like you are so funny – please tell us how Obama is changing American that is so terrible. Remember, he was overwhelmingly elected by the people of this country – isn't that how a democracy is supposed to work? Since your guy didn't win, all you people do is whine, whine, whine. How is it that once Obama was elected all we heard from your party was "debt", "high taxes", "deficit" etc but none of you complained when the budget was being blown to pieces under Bush (Cheney said deficits don't matter – remember?). This has been a red herring from the beginning of Obama's presidency just so your party can dismantle all of those horrible "liberal social" programs and safety nets that have built our middle class over the past 30 years. They've always hated them and will continue to do what they can to tear them apart.
There are going to be a lot of very unhappy Republicans / tea baggers on November 7th...
Why go back to 2008? Oh, I get it – because the liberal dems got destroid in the last election. WHat do you think has changed sinct that election. Working Americans are more upset with the policies of this administration now than they were before the last elections when the dems got killed. If anything, get ready for more of the same, if not better (or worse if you are a lib).
John.. Please look up the definitions of Libral and Conservative, Capitalism and Socialism. You will be amazed how the GOP has twisted these definitions. Amazing! Even Jesus Christ if you are Christian was a libral Socialist. Hw helped as many as possible and didn't turn people away looking for Him. Wow! interesting!!
lib·er·al [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. ( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression
Comeon... All I can say is THANK YOU.
That is factually untrue. It was 2008 we won the White House. It was 2010 we got destroyed and actually a lot has changed politically. 1: The Tea Party movement has stalled and opinion has drastically turned on them.
2: Favorable opinion of Republicans in Congress is almost 10 points lower than it is Democrats right now. From 2 years ago, the Republicans in Congress have dropped almost 20 percent in favorable opinion. The Senate which Republicans thought they might be able to take, right now looks like the Dems could actually increase their lead by 1 or 2 seats. And the House? The Dems are expected to gain 10 to 20 seats.
With the Economy now predicted to do better than thought and more jobs to be created than thought, (Yes I watch Sqwak in the Box a financial program.) Unemployment is expected to continue to drop to around or near 7.5% by Elections, lower than it was for Bush when he left office. With every month unemployment goes down, Obama's favorable goes up.
Dude, go read a paper or watch something informative. Spouting off personal belief makes you look uneducated.
samDCS, The difference between Obama and Jesus, is Jesus was not a political figure. I have no problem with helping the poor and needy... But I do have a problem with our government helping the poor and the needy while they can’t afford the most basic functions. The best way to help people on a sinking ship… is to save the ship! America is sinking and we are trying to help individuals at the nations cost. Fix the nation and the individuals will be just fine. IF we continue spending all our money on the people the nation will fail and we will all be screwed.
If we're going to use analogies how about this one: A team is only as strong as its weakest link.
Nothing gets improved in this country without the huge income disparities that exist today. These disparities lead to issues with education, health care, jobs, you name it. Without social programs like social security, Medicare, Medicaid, and food stamps our entire society would collapse on itself. Step one in righting your metaphorical ship is making sure more than just first class get on the lifeboats while the band plays on.
ANYBODY ... AND, I MEAN ANYBODY, WOULD MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA !!!
You wouldn't that's for sure.
Obama 2012. Clinton 2016 & 2020...the Republican Party is dead.
@Howard – that's great. You are entitled to your opine, but whom would you suggest. One of the current crop of GOP clowns who pander to the so-called Conservatives? Not one of them is any more qualified than Obama and you seem to forget that NO POTUS can get anything done when the "other" party obstructs everything. What do you think would happen if Romney got elected and there remains a Dem-controlled Senate. Ah gee, we'd be exactly where we are now.. nothing getting done for the good of the country. So lets upset the apple cart and REMOVE EVERY INCUMBENT.
Go goosestep somewhere else Howard.
Your statement is so stupid it deserves to be in all-caps–the font of the witless.
Howard,go take your meds,your late.The gentlemen in the white suits say you are screaming stupid things about the president again.They're tired of your outbursts about you being president,go take your meds,say bye,bye.....
When the WH budget doesn't even get a chance to get voted on or gets shut down 99-0 by the dem senate under harry what else do you have but to blame bush and reps in the house
So the Repugs insist on grandstanding BS legislation they KNOW has no chance of passing either house.
When will the Repukes top playing games with governance?
I know, these repubs are on TV almost every day trying to force their agenda on us. Oh sorry, that would be BO.
Bob, have you read the legislation? How many Dems voted for it? How many repubs voted against it? I had to laugh at your post – if there is one thing BO can do it is "grandstand".
John – have YOU read the legislation. Given prior comments I doubt you've even read the Constitution!
@John...Are blind or deaf or just slow? Many red states have anti-abortion laws and forced woman to under go ultra sound test before performing something personal to them. Government controlling women and yet you have the balls to point at the President? Hypocrite
Right after the pass the jobs bills they have been promising us for three years.
hey look whos talking please just stop talking your a dim witted moron
They ( White House) must just print this page af myths and just hand it out at every news event??? Getting us out of the Obama mess will look like devastation compared to fixing the Bush mess- but Obama failed to do that and instead has the USA in worse shape than ever.
B Ammon... With all due respect, check the facts, not what the talking heads are spewing out there for a political gain. Can I assume you are an intelligent individual, who can reason well on his/her own? That said,
Here are the Facts you can google it and search it whatever:
1. Wall Street market: Dow/S&P etc. compare 2012 to 2008
2. Employment. Forget the President's, the Dems and the GOP comments, all for political point. Compare job loss in 2008 to 2012
3. Auto Industries-USA not foreign.
4. US foreign relationship is very strong and well respected
And much more. Now, here some of the GOP accomplishment since they took over congress in 2010:
1. "In God We Trust" to be the American motto again for the 5th time.
2. Defunded Planned Parenthood
3. Pass Anti-Abortion law
4. Many GOP run States, Anti-Women Laws
5. Unattainable/unrealistic budgets
6. End Public School system
7. Gradually defund EPA that was originally created by former President Richard Nixon
An much much more baseless laws that will not creat jobs. Sorry that you think the GOP loves America because they don't.
I don't know what the GOP loves but it certainly appears you love kool-aid.
lefty why don't you try refuting samDCS' post rather than engage in ad hominem attacks? Maybe it's because you can't.
sounds like a typical GOP response, don't know how to fix it, but I better make you look bad for trying
yep, jobs being added, gdp heading on up, he fights china on WTO violations left and right, saved the auto industry, bailed out the banks to prevent further economic erosion, faught for better healthcare for EVERYONE, increased the US oil production and manufacturing base..... yeah sounds like he did a really bad job, trol!? seriously get a clue and read something besides glenn becks talking points!
You forgot Bin Laden! BO Smoked that douche bag too.
It’s good that everything is going up... but it sure as hell should after all the money that was pumped into it with stimulus funds. The way I see it even if GDP was up a trillion dollars it wouldn’t be good enough for the amount of money that has been wasted by BO. The economy will never be up enough to pay it all back. That was #1 of a hundred stupid moves this pres has made.
23 and not voting.... Why is it ok for President Reagan, Bush 1st, and Bush 2nd to spend money as if there is no tomorrow in order for their cronies to be richer and it's not okay for President Obama to spend 25% or even less in order to help the country as a whole?
President Reagan was given a blank check and the GOP controlled government-those created a notion that government throws big money to solve problems. Known fact back in the 80's. It was fine then, but when it's under a Dem leadership, it's not. Again why?
Bush added about $1Trillion -Bush tax cut to wealthiest Americans, over $1Trillion in wars and much more and yet, the GOP want to cut spending on programs that will actually underminds American future and security, but refused to cut spending on defense.
Extreme Capitalism leads to corruption, where the wealthiest controls the government, and the rule of law doesn't apply to them.
Please check the effect of Extreme Capitalism and small governments in Oil rich West African countries, where the oil companies and big companies pays the President, governor and government agencies to prevent a particular law to apply to them, monopolizing the market. That's just greed, the American future.
and what mess did Obsma make? It was 2 wars, trillion $$ drug deal, and HUGE tax cults, all paid for with borrowed money, while economy was slowing.. All under republican control that contributed to deficits. Even Obamacare would REDUCE the deficit by $83 billion according to the recent CBO report. And for the morons here who didn't read it, the huge increase they claim is false. If one had looked at it, they would realize the major increase in costs was due to elimination of 2011 (where little was spent) and the addition of 2022 (were more is spent) but people failed to also take into account the revenue generated. The report covers 10 years and next year it will cover 2013-2023. The real fact is is that repub's are blowing smoke, pandering to their far right wing extremism. They got us into this mess with their "fiscal conservatism" of BORROWING money and an MBA president. The bailout of the car industry worked, saved thousands of jobs, and over time payoff because not only will they pay federal taxes but localities (state and local) will have the tax money too (to pay for schools, police, fire etc).
actually it was just announced that Obamacare is more likely twice as expensive as when Obama rammed it down our throats with back room deals. nothing more than municipal union kickbacks.
@chris – actually it was just announced that Obamacare is more likely twice as expensive as when Obama rammed it down our throats with back room deals.
Correct, but as with all things "politic", it was released to ensure that Obama is made to look bad in an election year. Again, it's more spin.
REAL...if it is correct (that it is going to be twice as expensive) and you apparently agree with that conclusion, how is that "spin" just to make the president look bad? Seems to me like you're using "spin" in place of "fact" when you don't like what the "facts" are. So if that's the case, every time you say "spin" can we read that information as "fact?"
C-Lo – idk if it REALLY is going to be that expensive. With all due respect (something many posters seem to ignore), no-one REALLY knows what the cost will be, but given where our healthcare costs have gone over the last 10 yrs – remembering that there are NO altruistic motives (other than that of profit) in the healthcare industry – our current path [ins. co's refusing payment, dropping coverage, pre-existing conditions refused, drug formulary changes ad nauseum, price fixing with pharma's *that's what formulary drugs lists are BTW*, obscene profits, and so on] is no longer a sustainable model. None of the healthcare industry wants to see the "cash cow" – read, captive audience – go away.
As someone who managed an elderly parents (sans insurance) healthcare for a number of years.. I can assure you ACA (Obamacare) most CERTAINLY can't be any worse than what we have now! We are ranked 29th in the world for healthcare – yet are the TOP spender. How come ???
In all seriousness.. find me a medical facility that had down-sized or gone out of business. Find me a poor pharma or ins. co! Why does every hospital complex need oncology AND radiology depts! Why??? Because they are RUNNING A CAPTIVE BUSINESS – not a vocational occupation. Why not send the patient down the road for a CT Scan? Can't do that! Would lose the *profit* potential. At 18% of GDP for healthcare we need a version of ACA. It's not perfect, but if the GOP would quit whining about it (after all it IS 95% their FREAKIn' plan) and try to work with Obama to make it something better we'd all be better off.
I'm not holding my breath on the current GOP leadership working with anyone on the other side of the aisle.
@REAL Truth–first, let me say I appreciate your generally sticking to the arguments and avoiding frivilous name calling–that's the only way we'll get anywhere (though I know we all fall into that trap from time to time)
The problem with Obamacare (ACA) is it addresses the wrong side of the equation. As I've said before (a while back) ACA is akin to trying to reduce the price of cars by adjusting auto insurance rates.
Why are we ranked 29th for healthcare but top spender? There are a multude of reasons. First, we are Americans–have you noticed the increases in obesity rates? The issues have more to do with how we (don't) take care of ourselves and our lifestyles creating the need for more expensive care. Also, most insurance plans have "free" preventative care, yet how many Americans actually go in for annual physicals?
We are usually one of the first countries to recieve the latest and greatest (drugs, medical devices, operations, etc.) and just like that iPad that dropped 50% when the new one came out, many of the other countries take advantage of "yesterday's" technology which is nearly as effective for lower costs.
Our cost of living is generally higher than most other countries necessarily driving up the gross relative costs.
Yes, there are problems with the world before ACA, and there are problems now. I don't believe the ACA is the solution (for the reasons above) and we need to address healthcare costs, not health insurance costs.
Also, http://bostonoccupier.com/2012/02/20/hospital-closings-causes-consequences-and-responses/ for information on hospital closings–and low and behold, it appears to affect primarily hospitals dependent on public funding–an omen? perhaps.
C-Lo – got to agree with you. But we have to start with something! The biggest issue is that US Healthcare is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. It's FOR PROFIT. 'Nuf said. Perhaps controlling insurance rates isn't the way to go, but the GOP spin (and ACA is 95% based on Romneycare) is such that they view this as a Dem plan. It's THEIR Freakin' idea, and because it was written into law by the Dem's its now a political hot point and football.
Both parties are so polarized that EVEN IF (and from what I've seen it's a big IF) the GOP puts forth a viable candidate AND they are elected, the current Congressional roles will flip-flop and the Dems will become the party of "NO", just like the GOP has been for the last 3.5 yrs. That will get us as far, and do as much for the country as its doing now, which is a BIG FAT ZERO !
Ammon, you just have no clue. The Country is factually better off now by a mile than 4 years ago. Lower unemployment, more jobs created, financial markets reaching record highs. I'm guessing Jesus could suddenly get elected and if he was Democrat you'd still hate him.
Repugs and their blind dedicated fans are ruining America thru greed and commitment to OPEC oil conglomerates and the military industrial complex. Very very sad. OBAMA 2012!
john.....I dont know where you get the idiotic idea that Dems are lazy. The last I knew it was the dems who clean, cook and work for little to take care of you lazy A** repubs. we generally aren't born with a silver spoon in our mouths and therefore, we believe in helping those that are struggling unlike you greedy, self-centered bast****. GO OBAMA/BIDEN!!
I am blown away with the stupidity of you so called conservatives claim to be. Where were you people when President Bush accumilated all this debt. Where? Now your worried about the debt. Listen you can bring all of the fake statistics you want but the fact remains, it was people like you who say they are conservatives who brought this country to it's knees. You know what I hope you fake republicans win this election because believe me you conservatives will do exactly what Romney does on every issue... go the opposite way everytime. This whole issue has been going on ever since Your so called conservative president took office when in this country was enjoying a surplus and incredible amount of jobs. Yes go ahead blame that on democrats we will gladly take that.
Did anyone on this site think that the Democrats would ever praise a bill that at least TRYS to save our country from this OBAMA mess.
Obama has already set all time records on creating debt so why would anyone who's sane want to follow his budgets? The senate hasn't produced a budget at all in over 2 years so what's left is the budget submitted by the house, if the senate doesn't like it then they probably should do their job and submit one of their own.
Again look at the facts – Bush destoyed the Surplus Clinton handed him – 2 unfunded wars and his tax cuts for the wealthy added over $4 Trillion in Debt. And before Clinton, Reagan inreased taxes by raising the SS rate and the ran up more debt than EVERY other president before him combined. These are FACTS – check it out youself!
Lefty.. Looking at the rate Reagan spend to get us on the track during financial crisis in the 80's was way more than Obamas. Funny that it was ok for Reagan and both Bush(s) not sure about that plural-lol, to spend as much as they can but not ok for Clinton and especially Obama to do the same. Anyone remember when Dick Chenney was asked about the budget? He said "We can't worry about that at the moment" Remember people that attacked them were called Anti-Americans. So, how come many of the tea Party Republicans and Senators and people like yourself are not called Anti-Americans today?
sameDCs – what you are failing to realize is it's not acceptable for anyone to raise our debt and force us closer to bankruptcy. now is not the time for a Democrat to keep spending. now is the time for drastic changes. changes Obama promised but changes Obama hasn't delivered. Anyone but Obama in 2012. Or you can vote for bankruptcy. In bankruptcy, it won't matter whom you feel better blaming.
chris – acceptable or not, fact is that the POTUS (Executive Branch) is supposed to produce the budget and Congress haggle it out. Can't get to budget agreement when the party of no insists on deliberately adding "riders" to ANY spending bill that they know will cause the Dem's to stall the bill. That way they get to blame the Dem's and Obama for their inability to come to collective agreement. That's what politics is all about. With the GOP's SOLE objective on making Obama a 1-term president, they have lost any vote that I might have had going their way!
The Senate does not "produce" budgets...that is the job of the President. He just proposes a budget and it's up to the House to tweek it to their liking, pass or reject it and pass it along to the Senate, who does the same. The House actually holds the purse strings...but the Senate and the President can reject what the House decides on.
As opposed to Bush creating more debt than any President in history right? lol.. I'll take more jobs, lower unemployment and 2 wars over with over any republican agenda any day.
Last year, ExxonMobil posted annual profits of $167billion. But that wasn't enough as they required another $4billion in tax subsidies from the American population who have no other choice but to purchase their gas and help them achieve record profits. And why is this vicious circle intact? Because the GOP refuses to end the subsidies to big oil, while at the same time, refuses to spend on developing other energy sources Then we add in the fact that the GOP want to further tax breaks for those who are paying the lowest realized tax rates in the country while stripping benefits from those that continue to pay the highest rates. At the same time, the GOP continues its focus to vote down anything Democrats put on the table regardless of how it will help the American population. The fact that any American, unless you are making millions in capital gains instead of a salary from a job, would even consider voting for any of these people is absurd. Further that with the stated belief from one of the GOP frontrunners, Santorium, and not only will American become destitute, but it will be run under religious law. Hopefully people wake up to the treacherous acts of the GOP and vote them out of office come next election.
Obama keeps his war on the middle class going! I'm 26 years old and just paid $7900 in federal taxes. That is twenty times more than the guy who lives next door in his mothers converted garage smoking weed all day. Statistically he is in poverty, but I'm not seen how it is my shared responsiblity to pay more because he wont work.
Hey Juan – You should also be upset then that GE which made billions in profits paid no taxes at all! And Mitt Romney paid 13% of his income in – compare that to the rate that your $7900 represents and I believe you'll see you are putting your nager at the wrong guy. Of course, that is exactly what the Rich and Corporations want you to do. In reality if the Rich paid the same effective Rate as you, % of their income, we would have more money than we needed, and your tax rate could actually come down. Blaming the guy making nothing will never lower your taxes. Wake up!
Juan, you are not paying more because of your neighbor. You are paying more because people like Mitt Romney, who derive most of the income from capital gains, pay only 15% tax on those gains. Based on your statement of paying $7,900 in Federal taxes, you would make approximately $47,000 a year (disregarding deductions, etc). If someone made that same amount in capital gains, they would have only paid $7,050, or nearly 11% less than you for the same income. And for the record, it's the GOP that not only wants to keep capital gains tax lower than ordinary income tax, but they want to lessen it even more. Don't look to your neighbor who isn't working, as I could claim that the nearly $20,000 a year I pay in taxes helps pay for you not to work more, but instead, look at those paying 15% tax rates while bringing in millions a year in income.
Thank you for paying more taxes Steve! Your argument however lacks substance in the fact that this person IS working, while the neighbor he refers to is not. Which individual do you think your extra tax dollars will be paying for?
Can someone prove to me that having people who make over 250K pay more takes will help the poor or create jobs. Obama is about fairness but without a plan to help people move out of lower income situations...for example..Obama killed the ATB program that helped mostly lower income people who did not graduate from college have the opportunity to get a college degree or training...Obama is about creating safety nets for people where you stay where you are.. not good people policy
You have got to be kidding? You either dont know how to manage your own money and do taxes, or you just deserve to get ripped off?
For $7,900 plus whatever you pay in state and local taxes you have the best military in the history protecting you and your family; you have free education for all of your kids for 13 years; you have access to the world class roads and highways; you have police protection from the guys without jobs who would kill you for a few bucks for some food or drugs; you have fire protection, you have access to world class emergency services if you have a serious accident or illness; you have money being put aside for your well-being when you are the most vulnerable in your life, after you stop producing and wish to retire and enjoy the last years of your life without worries of living destitute or dying early because you can't afford the healthcare you need. You have people to help protect you from the greedy bastards that will take every penny from you for their own benefit, pollute your neighborhood, rape your daughters and put your parents out of their homes to live on the street. I could go on and on, but you should be getting the idea by now. You are getting a bargain.
This is the problem the Republicans have with YOU. They don;t feel like YOU are paying YOUR fair share. If you had to purchase all of this in the "free market" you would pay a lot more that $7,900. They think Government is too generous with YOU at their expense. YOU are the freeloader in their eyes. Hardly better than the neighbor in the garage as far as they are concerned. They want you to pay more than $7,900 because they feel like they are subsidizing your benefits. IF they can't increase your taxes then they want to take away your benefits. Which do you prefer they do? As long as you vote for them you will have one or the other to deal with. You are a fool to vote for them only because you are jealous of your neighbor.
You should be thanking God you don't live in a country where you have to pay street thugs to keep you safe and where you can't afford to educate your children. This is the Republican dream for you. You to live in third world circumstances while they have money to jet set and live in the style they feel they have earned from YOUR hard work.
does 20 X 0 =7900?
The tax brackets haven't changed under Obama, in case you weren't aware of that.
You funny Juan. That's only a lot of taxes if you made like $16K last year. I paid more in taxes than you made the last two years combined. LMAO.
@juan in el paso
Talk to me after you have been paying taxes for 20 years. What has Obama done to increase the % of your tax bracket? So what if you paid $7,900 in tax? You still paid at a higher % than most millionaires. Also, I am sorry, forgot to ask, at what point did your weed smoking neighbor make you privy to his tax return?
The Repubs and especially this Paul Ryan guy are relentless. They will NEVER give up on lowering taxes for the rich, privatizing Social Security and Medicare. As someone a few years under 55, I am appalled that this Ryan jerk has the cajones to deny me the Medicare that I've paid into for over 30 years. I am middle class and if this voucher program comes to pass I will join many others in demanding a reimbursement of all the hard earned dollars that I paid into Medicare (& Social Security for that matter). These Repubs have no heart – they will take & take from the poor and middle class just to have their military empire and line their own pockets – DISGUSTING!
FLIndependent–first, I ask you change your tag to FLLiberal, as you are definately not "independent," believe as you will.
More importantly, have you read the budget proposal? How do you know that the Republicans are trying to deny you Medicare? The system itself is going to deny you Medicare when the whole country is bankrupt from the mountains of spending. Unless drastic measures are taken there will be no social progam left for you, me or anyone else.
You are also sorely mistaken in that you have been paying into SS and Medicare for yourself. Your $$ are going to support those already retired. They don't have a savings account with "FLIndependent's" name on it. This was a system set up to indebt each and every future generation to the previous. I won't go so far as to say it was intentional, but these programs have enslaved us to the gov't to pay for those ahead of us. As a late baby boomer you have a much better chance of seeing ANY benefit than I (Mid-Gen Xer) or those behind me could ever dream of.
You can demand a reimbursement till you're blue in the face, but you'll have to go to your parents and grandparents (if they're still around) because that's where the money is.
A liberal can't be independant? Since when is party affiliation automatically associated being liberal or conservative? This is the problem with purist Republican idology since 2010. You have no room in your party for anyone who does not "tow the line" so you want to group everyone by meaningless labels and then attack people with the labels you don't like. Plenty of liberals are independant, and plenty of conservatives as well. Some people prefer to vote based on the candidate, not on the party.
good luck getting any brainwashed liberal to understand. if they are gullible enough to believe Obama then they won't understand reason.
Well. partly correct. SS is only going broke because Reagan [initially] raided the surplus funds to make his HUGE Budget deficit look better. Since then, EVERY Congressional Budget has raided SS funds. It is not a Ponzi scheme (as a certain TX Gov. called it). Yes, it is funded by workers, but no-one expected the baby boomer generations to come by. The Bush administration lowered the funding rate – part of the Bush tax cuts – which is further lowering the input. The Obama Administration wanted to put the SS funding back to the older 6% rate for all. But the GOP blocked it.
And.. (FWIW) – IF the Govt. put back the $4.3 TRILLION in Treasury IOU's that SS currently holds, it would be perfectly capable of sustaining itself for the forseeable future, baby boomers or not. So puh-lease, quit spouting the same, tired old right wing speel... I can't believe [supposedly] intelligent people believe this stuff!!
Are you implying that since I am an Independent that may lean left (and I voted for Reagan BTW), that I am NOT an Independent? Since when does Independent mean Republican??? I'm not stupid and realize that my withholdings for Medicare & SS are paying the current beneficiaries as my mother is one of them, however I don't believe all the hype from the Repubs about these systems going broke anytime soon. They have been saying that Social Security is going broke for many years now. Again, it is just an excuse to try to privatize and give more to their corporate cronies. If there is money for wars, there is money for these programs as well!!!!!!
C-LO Again that is just inaccurate. 1: Medicare shouldn't ever go bankrupt. It's really a matter of restructuring and cutting un-nessary wasteful spending. That and the 2 wars Bush started would have funded SS and Medicare for the next 100 years. It's a matter of prioritizing. Fixing Medicare and SS now that the second war is drawing to an end should be the main priority. The Problem is, the House refuses to compromise. The Grand bargain by Obama and Beiner? Would have done just what I was talking about. It was refused by Beiner at the last minute because Obama would have looked like a damn hero for lowering the Deficit by 4 trillion. I'm so sick of the Republicans trying to act like they represent America, they don't. They represent 1% of America while the rest of us get screwed by them. As for Ryan and eliminating Medicare? I read his first proposal and that in FACT, did eliminate medicare and turned it into a voucher program which in itself, was eliminated over a 10 year period. So maybe YOU should research stuff to huh?
Common REAL Truth...Obama just a month ago was espousing the extention of the FICA tax holiday, and threatening the House about not passing it. Fact is, even if it were "rescued" by returning all the IOU's it has been on a downhill slide, that will accelerate, with the Greatest Generation and Baby Boomers living longer and not reproducing the population needed to sustain it without REAL reform.
May not be a Ponzi scheme, but it is certainly not the system so many Americans believe it to be (the whole "I'm paying in for myself" idea). Changes HAVE TO BE MADE to keep it sustainable.
It's funny to me to hear people talk about how increasing the retirement age slowly over time equates to taking away their "entitlements." Fact is, most people who will be that reliant on SS at retirement will be working well past those ages anyway. Those who planned for their retirment could still (conceivably) retire at what ever age they choose and start taking the SS contributions when available. Many of the proposals put forth are not as radical as the lefty bloggers try to make them out to be.
I, for one, would be more than willing to see the retirment age move up 5-10 years for someone my age (still 20+ yrs away from SS eligible) and that's on the extreme end compared to the current proposals.
I admire the way you try to lay blame for "raiding the ss trust fund" on Reagan, when in fact it is the HoR who control the purse strings and it was the dems who controlled the House throughout most of the last half of the last century, including during Reagan's presidency. Any blame with them???
I am not implying that you can't "lean left" and be "indepenent." However I have seen not one post by you indicating anything but contempt for Republicans and full admiration for the Liberal Dem agenda (yes the "Liberal" was intentional). You're claim to have voted for Reagan I'll take at face value, but that was 25 yrs ago and he won by a landslide.
Yes C-Lo, I am an Obama supporter which means I now agree with his proposals, not the Repub ones. So sorry that offends you! This Republican party is not the same as it was in Reagan's day and those who were old enough to vote back then know this. The Repubs/Tea Party are extremist and it is very obvious all they cater to are the rich, the oil companies (remember when Congressman Barton apologized to the BP CEO because Obama & Co. held them responsible for the spill), and their military complex – THEY DO NOT CARE about the poor, middle class, minorities, gays, women, etc and I can NOT support a party with such a narrow world view!
I simply do not understand how the poor and middle class could be so confused and bedazzled by GOP rhetoric and those of their millionaire mouthpieces, like Limbaugh and Hannity. Any vote for a republican by someone not a millionaire and not male is vote against your self interest. There is nothing in the budget that will benefit anyone not wealthy already and therefore will never need medicare or social security for themselves or their elderly relatives and friends.
Please read not just the headlines. STOP looking at FOX news and talk to your friends and neighbors and form an opinion based on actual facts not soundbites.
If the Republicans want to balance the budget they can do so TOMORROW. Its easy. All they have to do is get all of the legislators and governors of the red states they control to agree to stop being welfare states. 80% of the states that receive more federal money than they provide in taxes are Republican states, 75% of the states that send the federal government more than they receive in benefits are Demotractic states. If the GOP wants to balance the budget fairly without taking from the rich, then take it from the welfare states. Red state citizens should give up their Medicare, Medicaid, transportation, education and military spending. The federal govt can continue providing benefits to the states that pay their own way: the Blue States. Lets get rid of Welfare as we know it!
Thank you Mr. President for calling out the GOP for this horrible budget proposal. We, the middle working class can no longer afford to support the wealthy with tax breaks and no-contract bids for trumped up wars. We want Universal Health Care, equitable education, freedom from religion that punishes women, and well run government agencies to protect our natural resources and environment. Don't listen to the GOP talking points that are repeated over and over again by non-thinking robot-like right wingers. They can't think for themselves and are only repeating what they are told to by their over-reaching media. We look forward to another four years of your presidency when the GOP cannot have the sole motive to keep you from winning the next election because of term limits, but fear that they will lower their sights again because we know that their affinity for stooping low is bottomless. Please keep up the good fight for the working people of America.
Obama's Buffet Rule tax proposal would only generate $31 billion in revenue over 11 years. As opposed to the $7 trillion in deficit during that same time span. at that rate we'll be bankrupt before you finally get it.
Beats the projected $4.3 TRILLION deficit that the CBO/GAO calculated would occur in the first year of Romney!
People please quit playing into the politicians hands. Can you not see the Democrats want to get re-elected so they can benefit their friends. The Republicans want to get re-elected so they can benefit their friends. In the mean time we are all stuck in the middle. It is time for change - vote independant.
Don't independants have any friends?
And just who would that Independent be??? BTW, Ron Paul is a Republican...
What really gets me, are the people who vote for Republican ideals and yet dont understand they are not the one who benefits....so lost....hmm
Classic exchange between Paul Ryan and Tim Geithner last month (while Geithner is criticizing Ryan's "Debt as a Share of the Economy" chart...
GEITHNER: You could have taken [the chart] out [to the year] 3000 or to 4000. [Laughs]
RYAN: Yeah, right. We cut it off at the end of the century because the economy, according to the CBO, shuts down in 2027 on this path.
Someone who doesn't have both oars in the water named John said "(unless of course you work for the governmnet and never expect to work in the private sector again") You mean the government workers who so far are the only ones paying for any of the republican crash of 08. You know the ones who's pay has been frozen for 2 years, while the repugs raised our retirement contribution and want more, the one's whos lousy heath insurance costs them $500 a month, plus major co-pays. Is that who you mean? Here's an idea for you, pick up your remote, watch anything other then the Faux News, swear off the Glen Beck, Listen to Smirconish, not Rush and get a grasp of reality. Loser!
same old scare and fear tactics from Obama and the democrats. let's ask the Greeks how uncontrollable debt really feels....
Totally different situation and you know it...
LOL – the pot calling the kettle black. Coming from the right – whose whole mantra is fear and "socialism" – that is laughable. If it wasn't so pathetic.
the left better wake up, your ideology is ruining America..
Paul Ryan wants to cancel my medicare and give me "vouchers" instead. Whad'ya mean "VOUCHERS"?.... 10% off on my next purchase of Pepto Bismal...."Family Size"? AND...Stick me with a "flat tax" that'll probably raise MY income tax, while Romney will go from paying 13% income tax LAST YEAR to 0% income tax NEXT YEAR when the Republicans kill the 15% Capital Gains tax? Just WHO are these guys working for.....anyway?
Obama and the Dems just want to ruin our childrens futures, no cuts.. all the while wanting more of our money to waste... ONE TERM is enough
President Obama-2012 President Obama will go down in history as one of the best presidents this country has ever had but I don't watch Fox because I know they lie.
Absolutely...NONE of the Presidents since FDR has had to deal with the economic collapse handed to him by the previous administration. And....the guy FIXED IT! NONE of the Presidents INCLUDING FDR was able to turn around our disastrous health care system. And...the guy FIXED IT! NONE of the Presidents INCLUDING FDR was able to terminate or wind down TWO major WARS in one term. And...the guy FIXED IT!......... MAKE HIM THE "KING"!
you need a new hero, ever considered Stalin
I wouldn't say that he fixed healthcare, but it was the first step in the right direction.
Seniors, and our children, our most vulnerable demographics are pleading for ideas like Paul Ryans, to save this country from Obamas spend spend spend
I hope most seniors are smart enough to know the republicans want to cut out S.S. and always have. They have benn trying to cut it out ever since it started.
are you off your meds MAry, Obama has gutted medicare with his Obamacare, he wants to make the elderly pay for the do nothings health care... dont underestimate our awareness to Oabmas plan.
Oh yeah.. the futures so bright under the GOP, you gotta wear shades??
@SHADES-You watch way too much Fox. I'm sure you didn't vote for G.Bush twice , did you? Do you read Star ,too? And do you think wrestling on TV is real also?
@Mary 930 – LOL. wouldn't have mattered if shades voted for Bush TWICE !!
The Supreme Court elected him the first time round!
@The REAL Truth,
You guys NEVER explain whyte Supreme Court got involved in the first place:
1. Pregnant chads
2. Hanging chads
Folks were trying anything to swing it to Gore! They were "guessing" voter intent! Remember?
3. Gore lost his home state! Florida would not have been the deciding factor of Gore won Tennessee and another state or 2. Even Tennessee didn't want him!
That is why the SC got involved! Lest ye forget, and it appears you have!
Why would I want to vote Republican when:
– They want to eliminate my Social Security (by removing the people paying for it now).
– They want to eliminate my Medicare (and give me Vouchers. Whada'ya mean "VOUCHERS"?)
– They want to increase my taxes (with a 25% minimum tax)
– They want to eliminate women's right to an abortion. (Rabid Anti abortion moves by Rabid Republican states)
– They want to eliminate women's right to contraceptives. (Catholic Church/Republican Push)
– They want to eliminate access to the polls with Voter ID laws. (New laws just added to the books)
– They want to censor the internet. (Santorum will stop what he considers Porn on the internet)
– They want to declare War on Iran. (All the candidates said it)
– They want to eliminate unions (Right to Work laws).
– They want to eliminate public Schools (Remove Funding and give Vouchers for Catholic Schools)
Finally a sensible approach to fiscal responsibility, Paul Ryan has been right all along
"Sensible" for the top 1%. A "disaster" for the rest of us! No Way will this abortion see the light of day. Even if Obama were to lose, this nonsense would be "filibustered" by the Democrats in the Senate.
but as Obama taught us, the house will pas the bill, the senate filibusters, we just go back to the house bill and pass that..
I love it...and the GOP will have both houses and the presidency next Januay anyway..this is brilliant...finally some fiscal responsibility
Obama should, and better listen to this guy.. The party is over Barrack Hussein, be responsible
Ryan's budget will not make it out of committee. Just another GOP attempt to gut the health care legislation by doing in the parts that control costs. It has never been their plan to rescind the health care legislation...they want to make sure everyone has coverage...all they care about is making sure it doesn't control cost so their wealthy 1% can reap a bigger profit.
Their first order of business this week is to eliminate the cost-control panel created by that bill.That should tell everyone what they want to do...reward their wealthy friends.
All that ruckus during George W. Bush's Drug Benefit Plan about seniors not being allowed to go to Canada or Mexico for their drugs since they might be unsafe...HELLO! If you currently need chemotherapy, in this country, many of the drugs used are produced in Canada, Mexico, Netherlands, India, China.
Anyone who says that Medicare Part D isn't mandatory is a fool....I call it splitting hairs....A). You are charged a late penalty for the rest of your life if you don't enroll at the youngest age you were eligible to enroll. If you qualify for Medicare part A or B you are automatically enrolled, and must select a provider and a payment for the premium is withheld from your monthly benefit.
once again the repos produce a budget that would help keep the rich super pac doners happy. Get real. Average Americans would carry the burden. Whats wrong with this picture. Obama / Biden 2012
"the president believes we can not return to a failed theory".. my god obama, talking about failing. the last three years plus has been Americas darkest in my lifetime.. We are better than this
Someone once said, if the hole starts to fill with water, perhaps you should stop digging?". The moral there is that one cannot fix the damage done by the last series of GOP administrations over night. It takes time, effort and sacrifice. Unfortunately, there are those who do not believe that. If you do a little research, you will find that historically GOP policies – trickle-down, supply-side economics – have been a colossal and abject failure. Except for those who benefited – the 1%. Historically, the Dem's have come along and tried to fix the mess. Under Obama, that has been the Bush initiated Bank bailouts, saving GM, removal of Al Qaeda leadership, troops out of Iraq, rebuilding the middle-class and so on. But I guess that's not relevant to kool-aid drinkers. You believe the opposite to be true. But then, FACTS never go in the way of GOP "truths".
You must have been born 3 1/2 years ago then if you can honestly say this has been the darkest time. Either that or you liked living with all the constant terrorist color alerts, seeing the horrific images everyday from the Iraq debaucle, listening to a president that couldn't speak proper English, watching the Dow drop and 401k's fall flat...I could go on but hopefully you get the picture!
Naturally CNN posts the spin on the Ryan Plan.. why dont you inbreds go read the plan in its entirety instead of letting CNN do your thinking
Hey there, the article is regarding the "White House's response" not CNN's opinion. But by all means, keep stacking ammo in your Y2K bunker bro, the socialists are going to yadda, yadda, etc.
And the old keystone pipeline never leaked either ;-)
Have ya read it ya republican inbred or are ya sounding like an idiot again,must be in your genes....
The democrats havnt passed ANY budget in over 3 years, finally someone is acting like an adult.. Time to get our house in order.. Obama will take us so deep there will be no coming back...he has ruined this country financially
@shades – finally someone is acting like an adult.
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Apparently, you don't qualify either.
This is the Federal Budget for 2012
I say cut the defense budget and make the 1% pay the Clinton Era rates.
Perhaps the last three years have been the darkest, but logically that does not mean that the President is responsible for that darkness. Look to the legacy he inherited. The economy is on the rise and we are recovering. It would seem that many people assume the person who dealt with the mess, made the mess. That does not follow. Slash and burn will not move the country in the direction that is healthiest for all. Rather, look at the whole picture and go with the man who has been willing to work and compromise, not a group of people who seem to assume we can return to already failed policies and make them work.
I voted for Obama in 2008 but won't make the same mistake again. I only voted for him because I was so disgusted with his predecessor (George W Bush) and didn't really look at Obama's credentials.
Democrats criticizing someone for coming up with a budget.
How ironic is that. 1000+ days and counting Reid.
Coming up with a budget that only enriches the writers of the budget is not a budget.
Obama's budget shot down by democrat controlled senate 0-97.
Something demcorats can be proud of.
LOL...Fairness? That euphoric word that allows everyone to argue they have been WRONGED. Thank goodness the party of NO is no longer in office. LOL...for those who think this is about us....hmmm.....we are only the guys on the chess board. This is about those who sit around it and we can easily be replaced. It's about the game...don't get too excited about it. It is like God- always was and always will be. LOL.
Any artical that shows screw ups like the one made by santorium .when he said he doesnt care about unemployment numbers or when mitt said he is not concerned about the poor.gets no reponse from the repo nut jobs like john and howard. Only when they think they can bash the president do they respond. Statements made by santorium and mitt and newt with his 2.50 a gallon show not only the arrogance of the repo party but their stupidity.. Obama 2012 lets go forward not back .
I see a lot of people complaining about spending by the federal government. The accuse president Obama of being a "spend spend spend" president. Of course he spends- THAT IS HIS JOB.
All governments spend. Republicans spend. Democrats spend.
IT IS NOT ABOUT SPENDING. It is about WHAT we are spending on that matters.
Whether you spend it on tax cuts for the already wealthy or spend on supporting health care for ALL Americans – it is all spending.
And isn't spending what makes the economy go?
I think what upsets the conservatives and the GOP isn't that the government is spending, but they fact they aren't the ones currently selecting HOW the money is spent.
And to those who scream about deficits – the republicans have clearly stated that "Deficits don't matter".
Uh, the issue is HOW MUCH we are spending. That is far more important than how we spend it.
$4.913 TRILLION. That's the amount Obama has added to the debt since taking office. At this pace he will have surpassed Bush's 8 years in office in just 3.5 years.
How can anyone who calls themself a conservative like this proposal?
This Ryan plan spends more than $1.5 TRILLION in 2013 than we get in revenue. You like this idea?
No wonder Ron Paul barfs every time one of these guys opens his mouth!
Two words: Simpson Bowles. Look it up, and stop buying this garbage from McConnell, Boener, Cantor, et al.
1000+ days and counting for thedemcorats to come up with a budget.
Unless you want to count the onw Obama came up with and was voted down by the senate 0-97.
Read the Washington Post article from 7/25/11. Obama is PROJECTED to only spend 1.4 trillion between now and 2016. The impact on the budget continues to be policies started by the Bush administration, including two unfunded wars. Read the article then get back to me.
Im not suprised the republicans r targeted once again to help only the rich while they gut the social programs that help the middleclass and poor.I have never seen such a hatefull and biggoted congress till the tea party got involved and pushed the gop to far to the right.This is why im ex gop,I will never vote for any of these hatefull biggoted republicans till the get back to the middle and start working with everyone to help this country grow for everyone not just the rich.Oh and by the way im a business owner and i have had no problems with obama and his policies and im happy to supply them with insurance that the new health car law wants.See even though it may cost me money to provide care for my employies im happy to do it cause its not always about profit sometimes its about being good to people and helping familys witch makes good ,loyal employies we all win then.
Kudos to you!
Same old same old. Keep spending on military and corporation subsidies/tax cuts and just stop doing anything for anyone below 340,000 per year.
Did this ever work? When did the debt actually get paid off at all?
There is no doubt that Republican / Tea Party politicians are totally irresponsible, being completely focused on serving only "the few" (1%), "the money", their strong supporters who "pull their strings". They have become arrogant, stubborn and ridiculous in their absolute concentration on being "puppets" for the extremely wealthy who they feel have the money, power and influence to con the people and manipulate public opinion. They literally put their political ambitions above all else at any cost to the majority (99%) and depend on their ability to sway emotions, deceive rational thinking and control voters as "pawns" in their game of politics. They have progressively become worse in their arrogance and cocky confidence and now, as has been said before, they are incapable of honestly and responsibly governing. The people need to totally and firmly reject them in order to have any hope of ever seeing them return to being the Grande Ole Party, with a sincere interest in the people, they once were..
Democrats screamed about what Bush added to the debt yet stay's ignorant to the fact Obama will massively outspend Bush.
Double standard. Nothing new.
Sorta like voting to raise the debt ceiling 7 times for Ol' W. Bush, and then not so much under BO. Silly double standards.
Deficits don't matter,
From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
Perhaps the biggest 'mistake' Obama made was to put the Iraq and Afghanistan wars on the books. Bush kept them off the books so his deficit was deliberately mistated. Personally, I thought Obama did the honest thing by putting them on the books. Too bad they can't go back and restate the previous years so you would all know what a hole was dug in those 8 years.
Obamacare's Gross Costs Double to $1.76 Trillion, CBO Projects
Wednesday, 14 Mar 2012 10:29 AM
We have got to stop sending partisan politicians to Washington. We need practical problem solvers, not corrupt phony ideologues on the take from lobbyists. Enough is enough. Let's start solving problems with practical solutions.
WHAT more proof do American's need to get it.................................ALL repuks do not care about middle and low income America, never have never will. President Obama, please continue to fight against this MADNESS, all American's deserve better. It is and always has been middle America who has made life better for all American's not the 1%ters who continue to get kick-backs for doing nothing. repuks are disgusting!
I think Obama should assign 10 IRS and 10 FBI agents to EACH of the taxpayers in the top 1%. I would guess, within 2 or 3 weeks, we'd have enough evidence of Theft, Fraud, Tax Avoidance (or 'conspiracy" to commit such) that we would have 90% of them behind bars within a year. AND...that's not to say all the tax fines we'd probably collect! I'll bet we could pay off the National Debt of the United States (and, probably, Western Europe) within months!
Better yet investigate Congressional members.
You realize that would also include Obama, right?
Let's say this happens. I will tell you those $35K a plate dinners will be history! Who do you think attends those things anyways?
He should do the same for all the poor people who are commiting welfare fraud..at least the people you are talking about are trying to keep more of the money they earned then the one's that are stealing from tax payers...
Let's see. Cut Medicare to pay for tax breaks for the wealthy? Sure. That makes sense!
The Republican Party and the Republican Party's "Budget" is "of the Rich, by the Rich....FOR the Rich"
Not the debt, not government spending, not "big government" being concerned for the people has caused the problems we are experiencing! They may be worthy goals to get under control but that won't stop the problems from occurring or even resolve the current problems. In fact government spending is really needed to address the problems ... and what the Republican / Tea Party is refusing to admit, in fact is making an all out effort to disguise, is that what they have and do continually support is what causes the problems! Our problems are the direct result of exploitation by "the few" encouraged by permissive and co-responsible politicians and resulting in run-away greed, gross dishonesty and flagrant self-indulgence that feeds the insatiable "more" (never enough) appetite of "the few" with the costs and just more subterfuge given to the majority.
Most likely this Budget as the last 3 will not be brought up in the Senate bacause the Democrats will not be able to prevent it from becoming Law. A lot of Senate Democrats will vote for this budget as well as the last 3. So the first chance for any Budget to get a vote will be after the Election this fall. If Obama is re elected and the Senate remains in Democrat hands and harry Reid stays Senate leader, there will be more gridlock. Obama need to go and the Senate needs to change hands.
That is completely ignorant and uneducated. As a majority, Democrats have never supported anything Ryan had put forth. The only plan they supported was the Super Committees and the Grand Bargain between Beigner and Obama. Aside from those, Democrats have been staunchly against anything Ryan has ever proposed. By the way, the Grand Bargain? The Super Committee? They were blocked by the HOUSE, not the Senate. Please educate yourself better. Ignoance is what is wrong with this Country.
It's amazing how this country has become so divided! I don't think either party has the answer, when both have ties to groups that want to control things for their own greedy purposes. This is not going to work out for all of us in the long run, the rest of the worlds leading nations will blow by us if we don't change!
Let's pay for the unfunded Bush tax cuts,
and unfunded Bush wars by...
uh...cutting Medicare! LMAO
I'm glad I'm rich!
Seriously idi*ts: Simpson Bowles Plan, this isn't that hard.
Why is Ryan still putting forth rediculous budget plans when no one in this Country has even supported 1 idea of his. He is a right wing crack job who'd sooner see the poor die off and the wealthy get richer. His only budget solution is kill Healthcare and Social Security and give tax breaks to the upper 1%. That isn't a budget, that's a Nazi agenda. And to all these Repubs who say Obama never put forth a budget cut plan, umm yes, he did. It was called the Grand bargain that he worked on with Beiner who up and backed out on the deal because Obama would have been seen as a hero. That ladies and gentlemen, is the -only- reason we don't have a 4 trillion deficit budgit cutting plan in place now. The party of no complains a lot but when push comes to shove the only thing they can offer is more breaks for the wealthy.
the republicans remind me of the thug running north korea. scdrew the citizens out of benefits and make sure the mility is covered. and of course taking care of the tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations. what bas-ds. this is why the dems will win again and try to fix the mess the republicans made of our country.
Take the national debt.
Divide it by ALL of the names that the IRS has including the people who do NOT pay taxes; but get a refund.
Send out a 10 day notice to pay up. Let's be clear. Let's be "fair" We ALL need to have some skin in the "game".
How many OBAMA voters have $136,000.00
How about the Texans just give back to the Federal government the amount they receive in federal spending that is greater than the amount they pay? The state of Texas is a WELFARE STATE. So is every state that borders you. Put up or shut up! You can go without the federal welfare or you can raise state taxes in order to cover the difference. I am subsidizing your low state taxes with my excess federal taxes. I want you to refund MY money! I am tired of you trying to take away my Medicare and Social Security just because you can't live within your own means.
I wise person once told me, (my grandmother) you can define a persons
character by who he associates with:
So let's see who obama associates with:
_reveren wright (America hater)
_wall street (election lobyist)
the list goes on and on............
I'm sure by now you realize that if Barack Obama had done anything nefarious, illegal or immoral the RNC would be shouting it from the mountain tops. False accusations and lies are so unnecessary. Get a grip he's our President and will continue in 2013, bet on it. In the mean time keep on rooting for that truffle.
Why not just include a line item in all budgets for Corruption...that way we can at least see where most of the money goes anyway!
"It would shower the wealthiest few Americans with an average tax cut of at least $150,000". Liberals just don't get it. You can't give someone something that already belongs to them. Taking less is not giving. Giving less is not taking.
Sorry Julnor!!! If you want to live and do business in America, it will cost you some of the money you earn. No way around it. Doesn't matter whether your a twisted little republican that supports a political party hell bent on taking care of the wealthiest few or a common sense, forward thinking Democrat that has the majority of the populations interest (even yours) at heart!!!
Have you ever noticed how much Paul Ryan looks like Eddie Munster? He certainly scares me.
There is a comment way back in this thread that attributed a quote to Lincoln that seemed so wrong, I had to research it. It was the person who posted as 'nofoodnowork' and indicated Lincoln said "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong....." and so on. Actually Lincoln never said that at all. It is a completely false attribution/quote. Someone named William John Henry Boetcker (1873–1962) who was an American religious leader and influential public speaker actually came up with this crap. Lincoln never made any such statements. Please check your sources. I'm afraid some of these people who post actually believe the stuff they are writing.
This GOP budget is just another abandonment of the U.S. middle-class in favor of the ultra-wealthy in the country.
It's a complete joke.
Imagine that, the White House immediately bashes a budget proposed by the Republicans. Barack Obama is nothing more than a piece of sh!t
Well then – White House (aka Obama and thugs) – why don't you and Harry try coming up with one of your own, in writing!!!!
Bill Murray did a skit on SNL many years back in which he was a caveman who kept absent-mindedly stepping in the fire over and over again. Each time, he'd yell in pain, yet 20 seconds later, there he went into the fire again. Too dumb to understand he was harming himself. Thanks to our cave-friends the Republicans, it's going to be Obama in 2012! Keep it up Republicans!
It's amazing how many alleged conservatives bash the White House's points just because they're Democrats. Do you really favor keeping or raising the middle and lower-middle class tax rates while giving the very wealthy a 40% cut? We currently spend 20% of our budget on defense: we're not going to become weak with small defense cuts instead of cuts to people's health, etc. Do you really want to cut taxes when the current taxes don't even pay for Medicare (14% cheaper than private insurance), Defense, Social Security, Benefits to Disabled and other Veterans, and Interest on the Debt? The lack of math skills in America, leaving people unable to comprehend but quick to claim they do is SO disheartening.
Thanks Mick, at least someone here is making some sense.
The GOP are only, ONLY for the wealthy and big business. ONLY. They completely ignored the middle class till it's almost time for their reelection. Then of course they will give tax cuts to the middle class.
They need the middle class and poor to be desperate. Desperate enough that they will work cheaply, to be able to feed their families. And wars. They need the poor for that. They won't be sending their sons or daughters.
What they don't need is OLD or DISABLED people. They are a drain on their profits. They do not contribute to the economy. They do not care if you die. They probably pray for it, their thinking is so twisted and UN-Christ like.
It's a bad time to be elderly or a small child in this Country. The GOP are chipping away at anything that might help the elderly/disabled/children. They wish you would go ahead and die already disabled/elderly. And poor children, grow up fast. They will need more soldiers for their wars.
Was that youor Grandma they pushed off the cliff?
Curious, does anyone know if Ryan's budget proposal includes moving Congress to a more business 401K pension plan like he wants to move federal workers? How about getting Congress off government run health care. Let them start paying premiums like many of us have in the private sector. Don't just go after public workers. And can anyone explain just exactly how medical tort reform should be connected to a budget bill? Isn't it about time Congress proposes bills that are exactly what they say they are and don't contain anything more? Ryan's a smart guy and I'm one of his constituents, but he just won't bother to answer me when I ask if he is working on Congressional pensions, medical care, and eliminating the loophole that allows Congress to commit insider trading fraud.
Ronald Regan presided over and approved the largest tax hike in the history of the United States. He did this at a time the US economy was suffering after the econimic policies of Richard Nixon. Republicans in congress went along with it because it was the right thing to do for the country.
Today's Republicans don't care about whats right for the country...they only want more and more and more for themselves. They are fat and greedy and cannot get enough. Anyone who earns less than $500,000 a year and votes for the Republicans is an idiot. These guys have you believing they care about you? They only care about their own wealth. The guys at Enron were the perfect Republicans, laughing at grandmas who couldn't afford to heat their own homes while they made billions off of artificially inflated energy prices. This is the soul of the modern Republican party.
Mitt Romney is already on record saying he doesn't care about poor people. Yesterday Rick Santorum said he doesn;t care what the unemployment rate is. That means he doesn't care of there are 1 million unemployed Americans or 100 million. How can you possibly care about working middle-class Americans if you don't care what the unemployment number is?
Ok, so where's the Democrats budget again?
These WH ding-a-lings did not even read it. Same ol' rhetoric.
The budget should not be a penny over revenues....that would be around $2.5 Trillion. Shame on both parties.
A bill designed to enact President Obama's plan for a "Buffett rule" tax on the wealthy would rake in just $31 billion over the next 11 years, according to an estimate by Congress' official tax analysts obtained by The Associated Press.
That figure would be a drop in the bucket of the over $7 trillion in federal budget deficits projected during that period. It is also miniscule compared to the many hundreds of billions it would cost to repeal the alternative minimum tax, which Obama's budget last month said he would replace with the Buffett rule tax.
You have to start somewhere – Obama never said taxing the rich more would eliminate the deficit, but it is a common sense start to the problem. It's not like they have NEVER been taxed more – they have and, guess what, they lived and the economy prospered. I can't understand why you are all so against this when your hero Reagan raised taxes when he realized that was the right thing to do. If you think raising the "top" rate hurts you then you must be in the top 1% and GREEDY!!
Imagine that – same old ideas, nothing new, and still refuse to touch defense spending even a little.
At best, conservatives are excellent actors who are very good at convincing people they beileve the things they say...at worst, they actually DO believe the things they say!
Yea the current administration has room to bash budgets. lol Look how much obamya has spent in so little time in office. He has no budget.
How do you have a budget in the middle of this massive GOP economic meltdown that has put millions of middle-class out of work, destroyed their life savings, and caused them to lose their homes?
I love how everyone is saying how Obama has added $5 trillion to the deficit. They don't realize that the majority of that has been two unfunded wars which continue to add to our deficit. Obama's major addition to the deficit was the $787 billion used for the stimulus which helped turned our economy around. Anxiously awaiting responses to this point.
Exactly. President Obama had to put the cost of two wars and Medicare Part D on the books – which Bush and the Republicans kept hidden.
the majorty is obama care better known as socialized medicine ,support for illegal aliens and weakening sanctions against Iran,bye obama 2012
The Affordable Health Care Act is not socialized medicine–go compare with any of the socialized systems of Europe and the difference between an individual payer/private mandate portion of the Obama bill and the government run health care systems of those countries should be glaringly obvious, even to a drone like yourself.
Obama has also deported more illegal immigrants than the last three Presidents. Combined.
And the current heavy sanctions against Iran you claim Obama is weakening, are in fact, the Obama administration sanctions. He is the one who institued said sanctions you accuse him of undermining.
Honestly, stop just repeating gibberish someone (Fox News, maybe;Rush Limbaugh; Glen Beck, whoever) has spoon-fed you Research, learn, educate yourself. Try thinking. Just because your party's candidates are incapable of it, doesn't mean you are.
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A liberal doing his interpretation of what he thinks (there's your problem) a conservative is.
I'd feel sorry for demcorats if they weren't so stupid.
Listen to the losers whine about not being in the 1% (who pay most of the country's bills already) and how the government needs to take more from the "rich" to give them more handouts.
The are two basic questions we should all be considering.......
Why is that 40% + of all tax payers pay non federal income tax ?
What is the maximum amount of federal income tax that someone should pay ?
When you have a group of people that hide their racism behind affirmative action do you really think they know what "FAIR" is?
Of course not.
Pres. Regan gets credit for reducing the maximum tax bracket initially to 28%, but even he had to recognize that rates had to be raised to bring in revenue. He could drop taxes because he cut in half spending on infrastructure (check it out) which would not be recognized immediately. Now as people are accustomed to low taxes, it would be political suicide to raise taxes significantly, so we are doomed to deteriorating roads, bridges, airports, power grids, etc. Modern civilization requires a certain amount of taxation to create a foundation for modern business and commerce.
When discussing how badly the Republican party has worked to damage the economy, just recall that in their pursuit for fiscal dishonesty that the Bushies did not even include the cost of the two wars in the budget. The costs were magically off budget in the same way Enron accounting kept its liabilities off budget.
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Speaking of budget items. Does anyone at CNN know why DHS ordered 450 million hollow point bullets?