BOULDER CITY, Nevada (CNN) - President Barack Obama kicked off a two-day energy tour on Wednesday with a stop here at the largest photovoltaic - producing voltage from energy sources such as light - solar facility in the United States, Copper Mountain Solar 1.
Speaking just 30 miles south of the Las Vegas strip, Obama reaffirmed his administration's commitment to an "all of the above" approach to domestic energy production, and called the solar sector an "industry on the rise."
But the president also derided opponents who have dismissed green energy as a viable job creator and aimed sharp words at those who instead call on his administration to take a more aggressive approach towards domestic oil production.
"One member of Congress who shall remain unnamed called these jobs 'phony,' called them phony jobs," Obama said of positions created at facilities like Copper 1. "I mean, think about that mindset, that attitude that says because something is new, it must not be real. If these guys were around when Columbus set sail, they'd be charter members of the Flat Earth Society."
With nearly a million solar panels spread across 450 acres, Copper Mountain 1 provides power for roughly 17,000 homes, but employs just 10 full-time employees.
The solar plant's owner, Sempra U.S. Gas & Power, is in the process of building a second facility nearby that's set to more than triple the output of Copper Mountain 1. Construction of the second facility - Copper Mountain 2 - has created 175 temporary jobs but, according to Sempra's projections will result in just five full-time positions.
Regardless of the size, such job creation is good for the economy, Obama said. And alluding to a plan to cut funding for green energy that was included in the newly released Republican budget proposal, Obama said that supporters of such a move would effectively be killing jobs.
"Given the fact that this is creating jobs, generating power, helping to keep our environment clean, making us more competitive globally, you'd think that everybody would be supportive of solar power," Obama said. "That's what you'd think. And yet, if some politicians had their way, there won't be any more public investment in solar energy. There won't be as many new jobs and new businesses."
Critics of the president argue that his administration's decision to back green technologies is the equivalent of picking economic winners and losers. The biggest example such critics point to is the Obama administration's decision to issue federal loan guarantees to the bankrupt solar panel manufacturer Solyndra, leaving taxpayers on the hook for millions of dollars.
On Wednesday, the president compared failed technologies like those championed by Solyndra to the VCR and Beta tapes, acknowledging that not every new development in is going to succeed.
"Not every auto company succeeded in the early days of the auto industry," Obama said. "Not every airplane manufacturer succeeded in the early days of the aviation. But we understood as Americans that if we keep on this track, and we're at the cutting edge, then that ultimately will make our economy stronger and it will make the United States stronger."
The president also lauded steps taken by his administration "towards leveling the playing field," such as a recent decision to place tariffs on solar panels imported from China, and he repeated his call to end so-called "subsidies" to oil and gas companies, a sector the president said is "doing fine."
"We want to encourage production of oil and gas, and make sure that wherever we've got American resources, we are tapping into them," Obama said. "But they don't need an additional incentive when gas is $3.75 a gallon
"A century of subsidies to oil companies is long enough. It's time to end the taxpayer giveaways to an industry that's rarely been more profitable, and double-down on investments in an energy industry that has never been more promising."
sempra sucks. They are a huge corporation who care nothing for the environment. In san diego they are trying to get people who are using solar panels on their home to pay the utility company – Sempra SDG&E
even though the people are giving the utility company the extra power from the solar panels on their home.
WE NEED A COMMANDER AND CHIEF ...
NOT A LIAR AND THIEF ...
SAVE AMERICA ... DUMP OBAMA ASAP !!!
That's why we can't vote for a GOP who hides his money away to reduce tax.
Ask all of the Federal Law Makers in Congress to walk the streets of Washington, DC, and see...
If any of them will walk the streets of Washington, DC.
In fact, they just past a bill that would make anybody getting close to them will go to jail,,,,
as a FEDERAL OFFENSE!
Anybody want to comment on this one?
Now let's get out there and buy a Chevy Volt!
Let's get out there and PAY LOTS OF MONEY FOR GAS to fill'er up! $70.00 to $95.00 per gas tank!
Let's get out there and LOSE A LOT OF WEIGHT on BICYCLES!
(Can I say Bi-Cycles now???? or is that HATE SPEAK???)
I love this idea solar will some day lesson our dependence on oil.In the near future we will have cheaper and more mile efficient electric cars.
Number of housing units in Los Angeles: 3,445,000 (U.S. Census Bureau). Square mile area of Los Angeles: 467 (Wikipedia). According to this article, number of acres of solar panels required to power 17,000 homes: 450.
According to those numbers, it would take a little over 140 square miles of solar panels (about 1/3 the total area of Los Angeles) to power just the homes of Los Angeles. That doesn't even touch the businesses and infrastructure of the city, which I'm sure use at least as much power as the homes do.
So it's a good idea to cover our land with cities and homes, then cover an equal amount of land with black panels to power them? How much more do you think that would warm up the globe?
How many square miles in Los Angeles is tied up in medium strips, shoulder and permanent easement utility right away lands that could also be used for placement of solar panels, wind turbines, etc?
What about placement on roofs....why keep building out not up?
Tell us jG, how much would those black panels warm up the globe? Fact is, you don't know if it would or wouldn't.
The solar panels can be placed anywhere, like on a rooftop. A solar panel plant, like Sempra, is part of the corporate mindset of a utility company. There is no real reason to build a solar power plant that way.
Solar panels have the advantage of being DECENTRALIZED. They can be spread out on individual roof tops, and still provide power to the grid. Roof tops that are currently covered in tar.
Exactly! If every buidling that had the proper conditions (south facing, little or no shade) for solar panels had actually installed them, they'd be fairly self sufficient and you wouldn't need as many acres for solar farms. My town in Jersey (several towns, if fact) has installed panels on every utility pole in town. Our schools have turned their parking lots into covered parking lots with solar panels on top.
I have solar panels on my house. I have eliminated my electric bill except for a $20 fee to maintain my connection to the grid so that I can pump any excess energy back into the system (helping to cut down on the burning of fossile fuels for PSE&G to generate electricity). I took out a 3 year loan to pay for the panels with a monthly payment that is only a few dollars higher than my average electric bill. Once that's paid off, all that money (plus whatever I get for selling the SRECS I generate) goes in my pocket.
Anybody who has the right building for solar panels and doesn't take advantage of it is a fool.
jG – Solar is not to replace ALL energy power generation. It is to add to a cleaner diversity of Power. Of course the output of solar is not the same as Nuclear. But there is no waste in producing the power that the PV technology provides. Would you rather have more nuclear waste? or More oil and other gases being burned to generate power? I think we should be going for more geothermal, solar, wind and researching other potential renewable energies. What’s funny is that if you read the GOP website for their positions, they state the same thing as Obama. Only difference is Republicans and Democrats cannot fundamentally agree on anything just so they can disagree with their opposition.
I can't afford the gas to fill up the gas tank in my car!
What am I supposed to do now???
I mean other than voting Barack wHousHiney and the other Marxists out of office?
We will be giving them another shellacking this year, also!
God Bless America!
The environmentalists wil either A) Oppose the project when it is discovered that the solar plant will infringe on the habitat of the desert grubworm; or B) Support the project, but then oppose the construction of power lines to run fro mthe plant to a city because the power lines infringe on the habitat of the desert grubworm.
Conservatives will: A. Oppose it because it doesn't make $ for their sugar daddies. B. Support it, but then oppose taxing the profits at more than -10%. Get your head out of Rush's toilet.
You are worried about conservatives making money, but you are not worried about this administration wasteing billions of our money on these boondoggles. Another billion loan guarantee for this one.
Does this administrations energy plan remind anyone of that old movie "The Sting"? I know the dems love their entitlement programs, but I do not understand why they support this type of corporate welfare. These loans are set up putting the American people on the hook when they fail.
@John – once again you have missed the point. YOU are complaining about the Dem's type of Corporate Welfare ??? I mean REALLY??? What rock have you been living under for the last 12 years. I don't condone it but BOTH sides do it. Look at at the CW that Bush_2 handed out. Billions to the Military/Industrial complex – buried in the budget, BILLIONS in a NO-BID contract to the company his Veep used to be CEO of.. and those are off the top of my head without additional research. I'm sure there's plenty others.
Perhaps you should be objecting to the Govt funding private companies, period as opposed to the spoutrage against the current administration. Simple Economic models dictate that when private investment is not occurring, the govt steps in and funds things. Simple. Been done before.. New Deal and all that stuff John. :)
What rock are you under. I absolutely object to ALL STIMULAS AND PUBLIC FUNDING OF PRIVATE COMPANIES. We have had a dem in the office for over 3 years now. Our governmnet is broken and broke because of both dem and repub administrations. Obviously what they have done in the past doesn't workWe now spend more than we take in. This administration talks about "all of the above" but they seem to be taking fossel fuel off the table more and more. So it is just another lie. Just like when he spouts off about us using 80% of energy when we only have 20% in reserve in this country. That is a lie.
Look at history.
Abigail Adams was a war profiteer.
Government bail outs are as old as the history of this country. France bailed out the defunct colonies, the Louisiana Purchase was to bail out a debt plagued French King, Oh and don't forget the bailout of the Saving and Loan crisis in the late 80's and early 90's.
To be absolutely correct this country would still be living in log cabins and riding a mule if it wasn't for government being the engine.
@John – then to be FAIR , since you disagree with govt funding of private commerce, rank the historical GOP failures right up there with those of the current administration. If you can do that without the Obama bashing, you have my full support and respect.
$97 million to replace old nuke warheads with new ones
$375 mil – overhall Medicare
$3 billion – joint strike fighter engine project
Insect museum in NC – $253,000
$300,000 to study yoga
$762,372 Dance Draw Software Development.
$1 billion on Sacramento airport terminal
My list is awaiting moderator – I will try to list them individually and hopefully the moderator will let them pass.
97 mil to replace old nuke warheads.
375 Mil to overhaul Medicare.
3 billion for the fighter engine nobody wanted.
253 million for an insect museum
$300,000 to study yoga
$700,000+ for Dance Draw Software development
Cost of Iraq War $2.4 Billion per week for 10 years....for non-existent WMD.
Does Halliburton, Black Water & Enron...ring a bell?
Good article Jean.
It appears I also forgot Fannie and Freddy, TARP, AIG (and a bunch more).
All of this stuff is sick and needs to stop no matter who is in office. Dems and Repubs are the same they just do their payouts to their supporters differently.
@John – well we actually AGREE on that last comment :)
All the money that got flushed down to toilet, to pay off supporter of Pres.Obama in the solar industry, tenthousands of homes could have received solar panel roof panels FREE curtesy of the government, but NO lets cover up land with ugly panels the only ones that have a job are the panel washers and they get minimum wage.
You all do know that once we are no longer dependent on Oil, we will be dependent on Solar Energy!
Congress will then tax all the folks for Solar Energy!
Well, the Big Energy Companies will be charging you for the expensive Solar Energy going into your home!
They will ask you for a lot of ENERGY TAXES AND FEES,,,, to pay for the EXPENSIVE SOLAR ENERGY PANELS!
Time to wake up and smell the SOLAR ENERGY COSTS AND TAXES!
Proportionally speaking.... if 450 acres powers 17,000 homes...
115 million US homes = 4800 square miles of solar panels.
That sounds like a huge area, but it's actually about 40% as large as Massachusetts. Not very big. Power every home in the country. Not to mention if the technology improves.
Ah well. Pipedreams, pipedreams.
The part of the country Copper Mountain is in already has a lot of electric lines, they carry Hoover Dam generated electricity to California and parts of Nevada. The panels are fairly harmless to the critters that live there. Snakes and scorpians get very little positive press anyway.
You just know that all of the GOP naysayers will claim that this solar plant is a waste and won't work, even though it works just fine and uses no oil! And you know that it's especially true for the GOP presidential clown show who are all in big oil's pocket. They will come up with such off the wall excuses that we can't imagine what they might be until it happens. I will predict that little Ricky's story will be the most absurd. The GOP clown show is better than any comedy on TV.
$10Million in government subsidies for every "job" is proof that this is all politics, this man is an economic illiterate
Ahhh yes an Obama success story...154 million dollarsfor 5 employees...meaning that his moron of stupidity just blew 10.6 million for 5 jobs.
Good lord, can't wait till this moron is sent back to Chicago.
...and you'll be calling on the Good Lord if he does end up back in Chicago!....Hater!
The Republican governor of Nebraska must be an "environmentalist" for OPPOSING the Keystone pipeline in his state.
Talk of hypocrites!
Nebraska's environmental review law requires a memorandum of understanding with the federal government before the environmental study can proceed. But the U.S. State Department has declined to negotiate the agreement because it no longer has a pipeline application from TransCanada.
Sen. Chris Langemeier says the new language seeks to clarify that Gov. Dave Heineman can approve the route agreement between TransCanada and the Nebraska Department of Environmental Quality.
Correct John, but people are missing entire point of the Keystone pipeline and the GOP is using it a more anti-Obama fuel. The FACTS are pretty simple. The pipeline would provide a faster route for Canadian and Midwest oil – that has a labored current outlet – to ship the oil to the TX coast where it is TO BE EXPORTED !!
This will NOT reduce the price of gas for anyone. In FACT, it has been projected that mid western gas prices will INCREASE as a result of the pipeline as the contents are for export, not US consumption. Sure, it will great a few jobs while it's being built, but we the people (99%) will see NO GAIN from it's construction. Guess who will ??
Exported from the tax-free zone to China without paying U.S. taxes.
I disagree. CNN had on a talking head last night that also disagrees. It is about supply and demand. He also said if drilling were opened up in this country we could be totally energy independent within 12 years. He also gave some additional information about the reserves BO talks about. He basically said BO is only talking about current existing working wells.
John – there are over 900 MILLION already leased federal acres, that have yet to be touched by big oil. While I can't confirm why, my guess is that the price of oil makes it prudent not to touch it. But it's OK to complain about how the Obama administration is blocking permits – a process introduced by the Bush2 administration BTW. We now have 44 deep water rigs drilling in the Gulf, up from 25 that were there when BP *spilled*.
And I completely agree with you that we have oil reserves for independence – like under ANWR. But like alternate fuels that have been surpressed (or bought out) by big oil, its NOT in there interest to open the faucets. It's supply and demand. High supply, low price. High demand (controlled availability), HIGH PRICE. Which is where we are now. Tillerson would be out in heartbeat if by opening reserves the price dropped to $20 per barrel, and *shareholder* profit dropped by 95%!!! Who in their right minds would give up $150 BILLION dollar annual profits – in order to help the average American. That's so un-GOP !
Clean energy is the future, and the quicker the repubs and their big oil lobbying friends know this the better we will be. Its amazing how well big oil use their repubs puppets to kill; cars that would use half as much gas as they use now, vote against the key stone oil pipe lines to give its oil to the American public, kills every green energy alternative to give big oil competition, can we say solindra. They have lobbied the American people to go against the presidents initiatives in green energy every step of the way. Lesson, "THE EARTH IS ALIVE". It will fight to exist just like we want to exist. It doesn't want to be like his 8 other simblings that are lifeless rotating around our sun. Just like we have our white blood cell to fight against invaders, the earth have mother nature who will fight for him. May YAH have mercy on our souls.
I would have to agree with your opins mostly. What I don't understand is how there is even a conflict here! It seems to me common sense and some degree of understanding of how we are able to be on this "rock" should have had this rediculous crisis settled in the seventies. I could care less what party my president is affiliated with; but I expect him to be educated on issues like this, and to do the best thing for the American people, and just as importantly, the people of the world. If you hate your children and your children's children, then please, by all means, continue to support the expansion of burning fossil fuels. Maybe in twenty years, when the last drop is burnt, some of your children will still be alive to witness the aftermath of exposing what mother earth has left buried. Our children will suffer the effects of our greed.
Hope you own a bicycle
Just think how much further ahead we would be on alternative energy if we would have followed Jimmy Carters lead. You can rail on Carter all you want, but he saw the handwriting on the wall and was a proponent for alternative energy. The US invented solar technology, but china is raking in the huge profits. That should have been the US. But...Ronald Reagan knew better, he removed the solar panels from the white house, and look where we are today.... still trying to play catch up.
So I guess you're blaming Clinton too, right?
Good post @NotFooledByDistraction...I agree with you! They have always railed against truth! They don't even refer to Jimmy Carter as President Jimmy Carter, blatant sign of ill-respect for his time as President. They still refer to Bill Clinton and I am a Democrat, as President Clinton, and to my amazement, Bush LOL!! As President Bush!! If anything, they MIGHT refer to President Jimmy Carter as, Former President Jimmy Carter. They discreditted and treated Carter just about as bad as they're doing President Barack Obama!!
Because Carter wanted us to go green...no surprise who these greedy pigs are. They don't want us to be energy independent.
Before you spout off look at your own posts.
Just like the shrinking of the microchip, technology improvements will reduce the the total area needed per cell. These cells will become more efficient. It would be a great technological race against other countries like China but..we can't get loose without that juice (oil).
BUY A FRIKI$NG "PRIUS"!!!!! REDUCE EDMAND!!!!! nimrons!!!
Why should I pay a $5000 premium for a hybrid. There's no ROI on that. Better gas mileage? Sure.
Clean energy is great, but you cannot *create* energy, merely transform from one form to another.
So, the fallacy of the *all electric* car is that it takes 3X the energy to produce the electricity to charge a *clean cars* battery than it does to fuel an internal combustion engine and get the same mileage. You can argue the pluses of clean air, pollution etc. I AGREE.. but when it comes down to personal cost, the electric car is not on my radar.. nor is a hybrid. It doesn't save me anything until the price of gas goes about $6 a gallon. Then, I'll think about it.
Of course just because the plant employs few people full time, there are jobs associated with manufacter transport of panels etc. BUT MORE important - the money we save going forward by not being subject to fluctuations in oil prices due to Iranian saber rattling etc frees up money in our pockets to spend on more productive things. the money we don;t spend on asthma medicines etc. frees up money to spend on more productive things...
Solar, wind, water and waves. The more we get on line the better off we are. And take you solydra nonsense and shove it. If you know the whole story of solyndra it is actually not some sinister plot, but a great example of how market forces are sometimes cruel masters in the business world. Solyndra was a profitable and genius idea when silicon was selling at 10 times it;s current price – which it was when solyndra was being put together. Between that time and when it actually went on line China with the help of massive Chinese government subsidies, saw a potential profit area and created a silicon industry in China, dropping the price to 1/10 of what it had been. Suddenyl the entire business model for solyndra was no longer viable. Not because it wasn;t a good idea. Just because the market had changed dramitically and in unpredicted ways. No shennanigans. No "failure" of leadership. Just market forces.
Ya just like Solyndra, another fail green plan of Obama's
Ya, like mortgage deregulation, the Enron clause, and apologies to BP for the Gulf oil spill. More TEA/GOP "success".
I'll never understand how libs point to bad programs to justify other bad programs.
Why is that a lib problem John. Look in the mirror and at some of your own post in this thread!
I am not touting for more of these boondoggles by either party. I was responding to a lib post.
LOL – got me on that one :)
Cold fusion is the way to go.
I'm not a physicist, chemist, biologist, scientist, nor engineer, but I do know that coal is a great energy source. When I was a child people used it to heat their homes until the government somehow decided it was against regulations. I remember my father saying 'somebody ain't making enough money'. We all then had to go to gas or eletricity to heat our homes.
@Sponge-Bob, BTW...I agree with you
Same old lies/exaggerations! This man has no shame. He may be a very smart individual; but his math just does not add up. He's making things up as he goes. When will this clueless president be coming down to earth?! Just asking!!!
with the current crop of GOP clowns-in-making, not for another 4 more years.
LOL!! You just told the real truth!! LOL!
The build/maintain jobs ratio on these solar fields is very much like what the Keystone pipeline will provide. Four hundred and fifty acres with nearly a million panels provided a thousand jobs or so to build and only 5 or so to run. Another field is under construction and a third is being planned in that area. Keystone pipeline will take a fair amount of workers (exact number is in dispute) to build and again only a handful to maintain. We should pay attention to how many are employed to build the Oklahoma/Texas segment of it.
On Keystone it depends on how it is built. Quickly with crews building all the pipeline at once will employ a lot for a short time. Use the same crew moving from section to section will take longer to build, but provide a longer period of employment.
Hey Spong-Bob – Google Rossi and Focardi, they claim to have made cold fusion work. The reactor uses less than 1 gram of hydrogen and starts with about 1,000 W of electricity, which is reduced to 400 W after a few minutes. Every minute, the reaction can convert 292 grams of 20°C water into dry steam at about 101°C. Since raising the temperature of water by 80°C and converting it to steam requires about 12,400 W of power, the experiment provides a power gain of 12,400/400 = 31. As for costs, the scientists estimate that electricity can be generated at a cost of less than 1 cent/kWh, which is significantly less than coal or natural gas plants. – IF this is true it will sure help us get off oil, but none of this has been peer reviewed yet as far as I know, it could be a scam which wouldn't be the first time.
and no-one believes there a massive effort going on to remove all other forms of energy use in this country – that can't be controlled by big OIL ! ??
I believe it, and it started a long time ago by 'the powers that be'. Like my father said...'somebody ain't making enough money'!
What’s more clear with Employment report is that when it comes to joblessness, having a college degree is more important than ever that is why we need the help of High Speed Universities now
I live in Las Vegas and we just got a 10% increase in our power bills with another one pending. Part of the justification of increaseing our bills has to do with the requirment that the power company have alternate sources of energy, like solar and wind.
We're still waiting for the lower energy bills Mr. Obama.
this guy is a joke another Al Gore joke.... we need real adult leadership and we are going to get it soon.
LOL – *adult leadership* from whom Jerry?? Mr. Flip-flop and the clown circus??
Heck, Ron Paul – despite some of his off-the-wall ideas, is the only one who's not catering to the fringe element in the GOP. Look at the FACTS.. in EVERY GOP Primary held thus far, turnout has been significantly lower than in prior election cycles. The inference is that even the party faithful have been turned off by the circus. The numbers speak for themselves, and even Barbara Bush stated that this is the worst she's ever seen... So where are these *adults* you speak of going to come from?
Former first lady Barbara Bush on Monday said she was not a fan of the current presidential race.
"It's been, I think, the worst campaign I've ever seen in my life. I hate it," Bush said at a conference at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. "I hate the fact that people think 'compromise' is a dirty word."
Yes @The Real Truth, I was wondering the same thing? Would that 'adult leadership' be coming from 'The Little Raschals'? Spanky Santorum as Prez and Alfafa Romney V-Prez?? LOL!! Honestly, Jerry are you talking about any one of those 'Three Stooges'?? RON PAUL stands alone....he doesn't even fit into that clown car of BOZOS!! LOL!!
clean energy is the future. Stop the negitive thinking. We can go to the moon we can do this. too. The president is way ahead of the repo ol farts in DC. get over it. Obama 2012
again with the name calling, that's all you dems are good at....... but will agree you that clean energy is the future., 25yrs from now when the technology is advanced enough but now its fossil fuels
@acdcguy...do you know Gaylon, Howard and quite a few others who just love to name-call?? If not, you need to check'em out before you give us the trophy! LOL!! I believe they got us beat! I have been guilty and probably will continue to be in retaliation to them calling us names, simply because we voice our support for the President and his genuine efforts to bring back AMERICA!!,...and not to even mention the disrespectful names they daily wage against the President of The United States! So there!
They want us to sit on our can like they did 30 years ago under Carter....Sorry @defguy you fail because the time is now. We need to get cracking. Most of this technology has been around that long it just has been unused, debunked and no one listens...now is the time.
we have been working on this green energy thing for decades so has europe...and europe is full of nuke plants and wind mills...in fact they are cleaner than we are considering the use of nuke power. obama is just politicizing this for votes... throwing away tax payer funds to buy votes...
Jerry, the President campaigned on green energy the first time...that was always one of his agendas!! Just politicizing?? Yeah, there is some work going on towards green energy, but Obama, just like President Carter, and Al Gore were trying to do, and you cons second guessed them and all but called them stupid, is only trying to bring more urgency, ratchet it up, put more focus on the issue and how important it is that we really start trying to 'fast track', well greivous to say, because of previous GOP stonewalling , obstruction and greed, 'fast forward' an 'old agenda' that was put on the back burner as not a priority or a non-issue!! You all literally called Al Gore a fool and made big fun of him! Obama is out here now, having to play catch up and hurry up! Over the years , even 'Hollywood' celebs have been working hard at trying to bring awareness to the urgency and the need for us to make 'GOING GREEN' and 'GLOBAL WARMING' a dire priority! While hoping to bring it to the fore-front of our agenda. You folks just don't want to give President Obama an ounce of credit for anything...not ONE thing!! You are willing to douse all the blame on him, one man, for everything though!! It's just foolish!
$1 billion for the Sacremento Airport Terminal
We already have Solar Energy. All we have to do is dig it up! You know Coal, Oil, Gas Hot Steam.
this is just typical obama politicking and nothing more....we have been working on greener energy for decades and it is coming along without the help of o'barry. The real issues we need to be more independent for our oil and expand coal use.. To do this we need new leadership...adult leadership. Not this radical marxist ideologue bunch we now have in power.
So you're in the drill baby drill camp? Which is total hog wash. See my above post on how much leased land is NOT being drilled on... IMHO – VERY deliberately in order to keep the price artificially inflated. We have oil, we have natural gas, and coal – A PLENTY. Those who control the markets also control availability! Why increase availability to a captive market until you are forced too. Laughing all the way to the bank – and we have no choice but to pay at the pump.
A shame that the author did not bother to look at the DOE Energy Information Administration stats before claiming that this plant powers 17,000 homes. According to EIA, there is 73 MW worth of solar capacity in Nevada (Copper Mountain, Nellis AFB and Goldstrike Mines). Last year all of the plants generated a total of 34,110 MW-hours of electricity, or an average of 3.9 MW per hour – about 5% of capacity. That's pitiful. If 17,000 homes really were powered by the Copper Mountain plant, they wouldn't have electricity for about eleven and a half months a year.
Solar is an expensive, inefficient joke.
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