A new attack ad by a Super PAC backing President Obama appears to blame Mitt Romney for a woman's death from cancer after his company, Bain Capital, shut down the steel mill where the woman's husband worked.
The ad makes it seem like Joe Soptic's wife, Ilyona "Ranae" Soptic, lost her battle with cancer shortly after he lost his job at GST Steel in Missouri, where he had worked for almost 30 years.
"When Mitt Romney closed the plant I lost my healthcare, and my family lost their healthcare," Soptic says in the ad put out by Priorities USA Action, the main pro-Obama super PAC. The ad is expected to air in the coming days in five battleground states.
"A short time after that, my wife became ill. I don’t know how long she was sick and I think maybe she didn’t say anything because she knew we couldn’t afford the insurance."
It's a very heart-wrenching story, but it’s not accurate. Here is the actual timeline:
Romney stopped his day-to-day oversight at Bain Capital in 1999 when he left to run the Salt Lake City Olympics, though he officially remained CEO until 2002. Bain Capital shut down GST Steel in 2001, costing Soptic his job.
According to Mr. Soptic, his wife received her primary insurance through her employer – a local thrift store called Savers – and retained it even after his layoff. Soptic's policy through GST Steel was her secondary coverage.
In 2002, Mitt Romney formally left Bain. Sometime in 2002 or 2003, Mr. Soptic says his wife injured her rotator cuff and was forced to leave her job. As a result she lost her health insurance coverage and Mr. Soptic's new job as a janitor did not provide coverage for his spouse.
It was a few years later, in 2006, that Ilyona Soptic went to the hospital with symptoms of pneumonia. She was diagnosed with stage four cancer and passed away just days later.
Joe Soptic, an Obama supporter who appeared in another political ad released by the Obama campaign back in May, told CNN he blames Romney for the loss of his job and his insurance.
"That is the way I feel," Soptic told me over the phone. "Mitt Romney is a very rich man. I mean, it is obvious if you watch him on television he is completely out of touch with the average family, you know middle income people. I don’t think he has any concept as to how when you close a big company how [it] affects families, the community – you know, it affects everyone."
Priorities USA said Tuesday the ad, titled "Understands," was part of their current $20 million television and online buy, and that the 60-second spot would run in the battleground states of Iowa, Florida, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Ohio.
The Romney campaign disputes the ad’s accuracy.
"President Obama's allies continue to use discredited and dishonest attacks in a contemptible effort to conceal the administration's deplorable economic record," Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said in a statement. "After 42 months of unemployment above 8 percent, it is clear that the President and his campaign do not have a rationale for reelection."
The Obama campaign and the White House are keeping their distance from the debate. During the White House briefing Tuesday, Press Secretary Jay Carney said he hadn't yet seen the ad.
"I'm simply saying that I have not seen this. So how could I possibly assess it?" Carney said.
"But you can. Will you assess it later?" I asked him.
"If you ask me tomorrow, sure," Carney answered.
When I followed up with him after the briefing he told me though he may look at the ad his assessment “will be I have no assessment."
It's become a common occurrence this election cycle: a Super PAC does the dirty work so the campaign, the candidate and, in this case, the White House don't have to.
UPDATE: Priorities USA tells CNN that ad has yet to air, but will soon be added to its swing state media rotation.
Lies, lies, and more lies! Please, America, wake up!
So Romney actually had more baggage than Gingrich.
Romney's campaign is based on the notion that because of what he did at Bain he understands the economy. It's perfectly reasonable to examine what his experience at Bain really taught him. After all, Bain wasn't in the business of creating jobs, it was in the business of making money
The high unemployement is due to people like romney out sourcing. that's why middle class Americans are suffering so much.
I agree with Sniffit. Obama won't let the truth get in the way of his goals and therefore Obama is a liar!!!!
Obama has spent over a million dollars to seal his college records. What's so bad that you'd spend over a million dollars to hide it ???
I agree with Sniffit!! Obama is not fit to lead.
I'm Barack Obama and I approve this lie... urrr I mean this add.
Why has Obama got a Connecticut SS number? He was born and lived in Hawaii? Apparently the Democrats are deaf, blind and dumb on this issue!
Hey, geniuses – its the PAC that made this ad, not the Obama campaign.
Hey super genius BrunoDJ
Check out Breibart – they have an ad sponsored by Obama with this same man and at the end he states I approve this message. Same guy, same shirt, he just took off his glasses for one of them. BUSTED
@BrunoDJ – guess what BrunoDJ? The deputy campaign manager for Obama's campaign, Ms. Cutter, KNEW about this ad. She hosted a meeting back in May 2012, and this Mr. Soptic told his whole story to her and the audience. At the end of his segment, he actually said, "Back to you, Ms. Cutter!" Cutter has direct ties with Bill Burton. You may still be in denial, but these are the facts.
Funny thing about that Super PAC video and the video sponsored by Obama. This guy Soptic wore the same darn shirt in both ads. Either he only owns one shirt, they taped it on the same day, or what a freaking coincidence.
Top 8 reasons to distrust Romney:
1. Been married to ONE woman his entire life, and has been faithful to her, including through her bouts with breast cancer and MS.
2. Graduated cum laude from both Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School... and by the way, his academic records are NOT sealed.
3. Doesn't smoke or drink alcohol, and has never done drugs, not even in the counter-culture age when he went to college.
4. Has a family of five great sons....and none of them have police records or are in drug rehab. But of course, they were raised by a stay-at-home mom, and that "choice" deserves America's scorn.
5. Oh yes.....he's a MORMON. We need to be very afraid of that very strange religion that teaches its members to be clean-living, patriotic, fiscally conservative, charitable, self-reliant, and honest.
6. Pundits say because of his wealth, he can't relate to ordinary Americans. I guess that's because he made that money HIMSELF.....as opposed to marrying it or inheriting it from Dad. Apparently, he didn't understand that actually working at a job and earning your own money made you unrelatable to Americans.
7. He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee for three years.
8. He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts for four years.
It matters how a man makes his money. To me the question comes down to this: Do I want a president who engaged in business practices that hurt large numbers of American workers? Shipping jobs overseas and taking huge profits to dismantle companies (not build, dismantle) while workers in those companies lost everything strikes me as a reason to deny someone the presidency, all other qualifications notwithstanding.
President Obama hasn't spent a million to seal anything, he hasn't spent a dime. Google the issue and read Factcheck.org on the "sealing" myth. They totally debunk that silly allegation. All private documents require written permission to be viewed by other people, you don't have to seal them.
Howard, Obama has NOT spent "over a million dollars" to seal his college records, those records are sealed BY LAW. Do you honestly think I can call up your college (assuming you went to one, which seems highly doubtful) and order up a copy of your transcripts? Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review, so I don't think there's anything he'd be embarrassed about. He graduated about 30 years ago, so if you feel we all need to know how he performed then, why wouldn't you want to know how much in taxes rmoney paid 3 years ago, and how much he hid in offshore accounts and tax havens.
Quote: Debra Knight
It matters how a man makes his money. To me the question comes down to this: Do I want a president who engaged in business practices that hurt large numbers of American workers? Shipping jobs overseas and taking huge profits to dismantle companies (not build, dismantle) while workers in those companies lost everything strikes me as a reason to deny someone the presidency, all other qualifications notwithstanding. ENDquote
Yes, it does. Maybe you should be looking up Bain capital rather than listening to what other people are saying. If you haven't realized yet, the main stream media is not going to paint a pretty picture of any Republican. This is where you must go and research this information yourself. Not from Fox, Not from MSNBC. Do your own legwork.
Since inception Bain has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel. Many companies to this day outsource, which is not the same as sending overseas. My husbands company outsourced his position. Luckily for him he re-applied and remains with the company through that outsource company. It's how businesses are working nowadays.
Have you looked at where our stimulus money has gone? Can you say outsourced? How about our roads and bridges being rebuilt? Can you say chinese workers being shipped in? You wont hear that on the news. Please research yourself and become informed. I'm not telling you to believe. You must believe on your own brain power. Good Luck – our country depends on those that research and ignore talking heads. Thanks!
I didn't mean to imply that all the companies Bain dealt with were dismantled. Some were and some weren't. I was referring specifically to the ones that were. I question the business practice of Bain loading a company with debt to take profit for themselves before shuttering the company, leaving nothing for the workers, some of whom gave their entire working lives to those companies.
I understand that it is not uncommon to find companies outsourcing or shipping jobs overseas to increase their profit. I am all for healthy profits. The CBO released a report that the top wage earners (CEOs, etc.) in this country have enjoyed increases of about 275% over the last 30 years while the middle class has barely kept even with the rise in the cost of living. The working poor fared the worst.
My point is that I do not want a man or woman to be president who engaged in that kind of naked greed which led to these types of disparities. I find such behavior unpatriotic because those business practices hurt large number of American workers. That the practices are widespread is not a point in Romney's favor.
On the flip side, we have President Obama exhorting the Republican controlled House to remove the tax break for companies that ship jobs overseas and use the resulting revenue to fun a tax break for companies that bring jobs back. The House has yet to act. These are facts that can be verified. I don't need the filter of the news media.
Can you say outsourced?
Correction to my last post – Can you say outsourced? Should have said Can you say overseas. Yes, our stimulus money was shipped overseas to other countries not here for our own country.
cmm, that was debunked as at best misleading about the stimulus money going to other countries. The only people reporting it as "fact" are right-wing bloggers.
Nowhere does that ad say that Rmoney caused the woman's death. It is simply another ad that shows Rmoney cannot relate to the majority of Americans - not because he is rich but because HE SIMPLY DOESN'T WANT TO. If he did, how could he have continued with the company he created to cause such harm?
You complain about Obama's college transcripts when Rmoney won't let you see his tax returns. That community organizer quip is dimwitted, considering Paul Ryan was a fitness trainer and drove the Oscar Meyer weinermobile before he started living off the government.
Rmoney turned down salaries because they screwed up his tax returns - he may have had to pay more than 14 percent on his $20 million earnings. Don't forget, you get what you pay for.
It's payback time for all swiftboats and other lies by GOP. It's good to see that Dems have stopped saying 'Americans can't be that stupid.' and not fight back. GOP proved that Americans are stupid and will only understand 30 second messages that they want to hear.
Are you stupid? You did exactly what you accuse the GOP of doing. You only listened to the first 30 seconds of this video. The point here is that the ad they're talking about is FALSE! It's all lies. When the man says his wife died "shortly after that", he means 5 years! Plus, his wife had insurance through her own job when he was laid off. She lost her insurance when she left that job, not when he was laid off. The two are not connected.
If you really think this is payback and Obama and his cronies are doing this on purpose, which I do – what does it say about his (non) leadership skills?
Obama will do anything to hold onto power ... even if its harmful to America. It's time for Americans to choose between Obama and America. It should be an easy choice, since American is MUCH more important than Obama.
@Howard Larry Moe CurlyJoe
You are a traitor liar that passed misinformation about voting to the citizens of this country. Which, make you a PUKE AND A STOOGE.
Lying is OK because of 8-to-12-year-old "PAYBACK"? Seriously?
You SOUND like an Obamoron. You probably believe acquitting OJ because of past injustice to blacks was OK too? Or is this just because it serves YOUR guy? I'll bet BO would be embarrassed to read your post.
I ain't ashamed to call Howard A LIAR AND A PUKE because he posted misinformation to our troops and their families about their voting rights.
P.S O.J. SIMPSON??? The man is in jail but NOT ON DEATHROW WHERE HE BELONGS!! (does that soothe your sense of justice? It doesn't mine.)
Well, looks like Wolf Blitzer has spent about the last 20-25 minutes of his show today on the falseness of the ad .. at least that was what the CNN headline implied to me (I did not go further but kept flipping back to CNN from watching the Olympics ... and kept seening the same headline about the falseness of the ad ) ... must be something really serious for Wolf to have devoted so much air time to this subject matter ........ .
They all stretch the truth but this is a FLAT OUT LIE and this man and the people paying for it should be tried for slander
John Kerry is a traitor and should still be in jail to this day.
What an idiotic response. Let's just continue doing the wrong things ...call it 'payback' and watch the country go down the tubes.
The answer is new blood in both the Democratic and Republican parties. It is happening somewhat in the RNC with grassroots elections actually up-ending the status quot ..as in the Ted Cruz victory in TX.
I might ask ...where are the Democrats that are calling for fiscal restraint and getting us out of debt. Talk about status quot, the DNC seems to want nothing more than to carry us further and further down the road to government dependency.
think you missed the point here – the dems put the add up and it full of untruths – that what you call "fighting back"? Doesn't Obama request "civility" in the campaign? He's a huge liar: "I won't have lobbyists in my cabinet" – lie. "I won't raise taxes on the middle class" lie (Obamacare a 2.7 trillion dollar tax hike as defined by supreme court and CBO). "I want a civil campaing" – lie – he posts an add cliaming Romney is killing people. Bain should liquidate bad businesses – you probably want the government to bail them out like GM and Crystler right? But you don't think about who pays for that. Personally I think Romney should come out and say "yeah, I'm rich, I'm successful – you want me to lead you or the guy who has outspent any president EVER elected 4 or 8 years, has not improved unemployment (when calculated apple to apple), has lied several times, has sold us a terrible bill in Obamacare, has increased taxes more than anybody ever has and run up the debt by 5 trillion? Dems don't want to discuss Obamas record, they just want to say "Romney is rich and therefore evil" – yet they blame the GOP of being stupid? I don't think they have an education. These 2 parties have all of you fighting over meaningless things while they both rape you....I think anybody who is a blind supporter of GOP or Dems are stupid. We need to fire all of them.
Since the swiftboat adds were true, it is even worse. He is claiming Obama is doing payback for 8 yr old truthful but effective repub adds, by putting out a patently false add. By the way the add is even more flase than CNN let on. My Skoptic later on got another job, and that job had health care that he could have used to cover his wife, but he did not want to pay the copay for it. So in a way HE was the one that killed his wife. It also ignores that Bain offered him a very generous buyout.
what if romney accused obama of murder? can you imagine the uproar? see what it would look like at the conservative satire site thedailyquasi.
WHAT'S FUNNY IS MOST OF THIS STUFF IS NOTHING NEW, MOST HIS FELLOW REPUBLITARDS HAVE ALREADY ACCUSED HIM OFF.
What's funny is how Obama stooges, like you, continue to believe the unbelievable B.S. that keeps coming from the corrupt, lying Obama administration ... and, dirty liars, like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
Here is what is really funny. Libs don't question how Harry Reid saved millions of dollars while in office? But they bash Romney because he is successful and his wife owns a horse..
So libs think "dingy Harry" can do more positive things for this country than someone who has been successful with EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE? Classic lib thinking. Choose the guy who does nothing...
@Howard Larry Moe CurlyJoe
YOU take the prize for STOOGES!
SUCCESSFUL AT EVERYTHING? I GUESS HE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT HIDING HIS TAX RETURNS BUT I WOULDN'T BE SO PROUD OF THAT FACT.
His tax returns went to the IRS, the only one who has any right to demand them. And they must have been OK, or romney would have been audited. But how about this deal, romney releases his taxes, when obama releases all the things he is holding back, like his academic and medical records, and the remaining F&F records. If you guys are so hot on transparency, how about demanding some from Obama.
A steel mill still operating in the US in 1999?! It plainly went the way of all of its brethren, bankrupt due to the intransigence of the Steelworkers Union and the far-cheaper, higher quality products imported from other countries. Then, seven years later, as Mitt was concluding his term as Gov. of Mass., this man's wife contracted cancer. Had Obamacare been in force, he'd've been forced to pay for his own GM and Chrysler plants and dealerships, as well as the NASA manned space program, laying off many times the souls who were let go with Mr. Soptic. Did all of those displaced persons lose their health insurance? You bet they did.
Not to mention that, under Obamacare, this woman would have been paying the uninsured "tax" *while* she was dying of cancer. Her husband took her to the hospital when she got really sick. Would he have been able to afford that after paying the uninsured "tax"?
I agree with Sniffit that Obama has no clue.
Mit Rolling-In-Money is a LIAR
I guess you and this stupid cunt don't know what CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER means. Get a dictionary douche bags.
OBAMA CAMPAIGN LIES ALL THE TIME. THEY CAN'T RUN ON THE TRUTH.
THE OBAMA-ITES ARE SOCIALISTS AND ARE DESTROYING OUR ECONOMY. ON PURPOSE. THEY ARE A BUNCH OF LIARS.
Anyone that signed the Norquist pledge is going to run out of this country on a rail. RobMe is not only a LIAR, but a tax CHEAT. WHERE ARE THE TXES BIG SHOT. WHERE ARE THE TAXES !
Who was it that is quoted as saying, "WE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO ENSURE MR OBAMA IS A ONE TERM PRESIDENT".
YOUR ALL TRAITORS !
i couldnt agree more!!! this country would be on the right track if america would wake up and demand all these issues be resolved.. congress gets paid because we pay them, the president is an epic failure on this country..america needs to wake up and understand that sh!t will not change till we make them change it...whether it be protesting, revolting, who knows just do something ppl...personally both romney and obama need to grow up!!! this isnt highschool, quit name calling, and lieing!!! we have real issues to deal with!!!!
Unfortunately a lot of companies tanked shortly after the democratic 110th congress too over in 2007. A lot of jobs have been lost after fannie, freddie and the subsequent mortgage crisis. This was not due to Romney and to even insinuate this and the constant other lies is why democrats are just one step up on Islam. Both are evil.
The 110th Congress was when the Republicans started obstructing with a vengeance. Halfway through the two year term they achieved the distinction of being the most obstructing minority party in our country's history. That was halfway through! So to blame the Democrats for what happened is to ignore important facts.
Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul suggested today that Soptic’s wife would have had health insurance if she had lived in Massachusetts and had been covered by Romneycare. “If people had been in Massachusetts, under Gov. Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care,” Saul said. LOL
I am against this ad- from priorities USA and all of the deceptive and flat out lies that are coming from superPACs and the campaigns of both parties. It has gotten so ugly so early- that hopefully tune out and ignore them. I would like to know where Romney stands on a lot of issues- and what he SPECIFICALLY plans to do. His website is very very very vague. No details- just bumper sticker themes. I personally think he is trying to hide his plans from the right wing on his own party- not the opposition. But they blindly follow.... with no facts.
Good reporting by CNN- why dont you guys do some reporting on the specific differences between the two candidates- if you can get Romney to take a position on anything– good luck with that.
This ad is degrading, dishonest and a disgrace to the President who authorized it!
---He lied about his mother's health to help push Obamacare through
.--– He told a reporter in 1999 that he was born in Kenya; then said "Oh no! Either I misspoke or the reporter missheard!! How can you misshear kenya for Hawaii!], another lie
--– He lied about Obamacare being a tax
---he lied when he swore an oath that he had never used another name , when he HAD
---He lied about Fast & Furious
Now, I read that he has a Connecticut SS number?
This lying Ad – after all the other lies will LOSE Obama the election. All the other allegations against Romney are part of the same dishonesty!
this crap they are throwing at romney, just shows what a CLASS ACT HE IS BY NOT CRAWLING THRU THE GUTTER WITH THEM, AND STAYING ON MESSAGE, CAN'T WAIT TIL NOV. 6TH TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.
His policies made this man lose his healthcare benefits. CEO's don't realize this they only think of PROFIT. He will also REPEAL healthcare and will be responsible for millions more if he does.
Wrong! This woman had her own insurance before and years after this man lost his job. Then her company folded... Could the man not find another job. Companies come and go and if they can't make a profit, then how do you expect them to survive? If you are able to work for a company that is able to prosper, then you should count yourself lucky. If that company just can't make it, what do you expect them to do? Where is the money going to come from to keep supporting themselves as well as their employees? I just don't understand peoples thought processes! That is the way the world works, some companies make it, some don't! You can't blame the CEO's for that. Sheesh....
He will Repeal Healthcare and be responsible for millions more like this woman.
I have one word to describe the Democrats on this...."shameful".
The ad that exploits the poor woman's death is deplorable. Her husband should be ashamed of himself. The democrat hack that came up with it should be flogged. This shows you just how desperate obamas camp has become.
Mitt Romney was listed as the CEO. Therefore he was responsible....
This is a very bad candidate for the GOP and his campaign has been run very poorly.
You still don't get it...it doesn't matter who was the CEO of a company that sold..the bottom line is that Joe Soptic lied in the ad that he lost his job...it sounds like his wife died the next day and she died because he didn't have healthcare insurance...come on...SHE died 5 years later...nothing to do with a job loss..he was doing OK...he had job...didn't pay to put her on his insurance...no one's fault but Joe's ...he is just a big fat liar...He is driving around in his red corvette and was remarried to the new wife....does she not see how little he thinks of his "high school sweetheart" that he had been married to for years...His new wife had better reconsider what a low life he is...the Covette club should dissassociate with this jerk!!! He is an embarrassment to Kansas City, to the past workers of Armco Steel, Truman High School Alum and anyone that knows him. He needs to take the money that he was paid to lie and donate it to the American Cancer Society... How can he face is wife's family and friends knowing that he "lied on her grave"...
Shocking the desperate one is lying again?? FAILURE
I logged on to CNN to get some more insight into the thrashing given to Tim Burton last night by CNN's Wolf Blitzer on the Democratic PAC ad linking Romney to a woman dying from cancer. What an irresponsible, suppressive news outlet. The absence of a monster story on CNN wrought with lies and deception demonstrates and confirms the one-sided reporting delivered by CNN and its liberal bias. On August 8th the White House, Jay Carney, Stephanie Cutter and Robert Gibbs all said they knew nothing about the specifics or the facts of this ad. We find out last night that the guy Soptic in the Ad told his story via conference call to Stephanie Cutter a few months ago and Gibbs is good friends with former White House aide Tim Burton who produced and directed the ad? Are you kidding me? This is just one small example of the lengths this administration will go to lie to stay in power and the liberal bias of CNN reporting.
It's all going to be about hiding your tax returns! Stupid!
WHY U SO CARE ABOUT HIS TAX DO U HAVE A JOB U PEOPLE ACT LIKE A KID GROW UP
Robert Gibbs is that You ????
HE COULD RELEASE 30 YEARS OF TAX RECORDS AND YOU WOULD WANT MORE, WHEN DOES THIS CRAP STOP,
WHY WERE YOU NOT YELLING FOR OBAMAS PAPERS IN 2008?
Morons! Willard has soooo much stuff to bust him out on, yet they choose to bend the truth. Newsflash, you don't need to lie to make WIllard look bad, come on!
"bend the truth"?
What the... this is not bending truth; it's an outright LIE!
When will you Obamabots face reality? Your guy is behind all the lies, smears, and nasty campaigning and you still think he's the man? Good grief! He's destroying the country. Don't you know there won't be any more handouts once he's through with you?
True, True and true, he will throw who or whatever if it doesnt keep his goofy looking butt in the whitehouse, Remember he said If I dont cut hte deficet in half and unemploy isnt under 6% ill be a one term pres. MAN UP OBLUNDER KEEP YOUR WORD FOR ONCE AND JUST LEAVE
@BBs for brainsAND THAT AIN"T A COMPELMENT!
Seriously Dude, or, DUDETTE, you can't be proud that you are a complete A$$ whose idea of SHARING is slobbering all over your keyboard.
Based on this AD and the "Garden-Gnome look-alike" Reid's hysterical, lying outburst, I and my family will vote for Romney.
If they can lie about a woman who died 7 YEARS after Romney left Bain – all their other smears are obviously LIES too.
You were already going to vote for Romney BEFORE THIS AD. As if we couldn't tell.
NOW you are going to start telling us what is and isn't accurate, CNN? After just repeating whatever the campaigns have been feeding you? Where was your fact-checking on that story about early voting in Ohio? Couldn't be bothered, I guess.
This is not politics as usual – this is the most despicable man in America! He is distorting the facts about his wife's death to get political gain. Romney wasn't at Bain when the plant was shut down. The plant was scheduled to be closed if Bain didn't step in. His wife had her own insurance which she lost when she lost her job due to an injury. If a military base is closed during a president's term in office, does that make him liable for anyone's death under similar circumstances? What a despicable man to exploit his wife's death for political gain.
She had her own insurance. The plant closed in 2001 – yet she died in 2006! ObamaBots lie again.
And Bain pumped over $100 Mill into GST Steel. It was only shut down after the SECOND strike by workers. So the greedy parasites ate their host and they try to blame Romney? Typical lib BS & lies.
Agreed! Unfortunately, all the left leaning sheep who don't pay one bit of attention to what is actually giong on in this country will see this and believe it. And then blame Romney for not releasing his tax records. Just another diversion from the truth of how lousy things are going and how little Obama is doing to change anything.
If Mitt wasn't there, how did he manage to make MILLIONS off this one deal alone? He was certainly there when this company was loaded with debt and the money used to pay MILLIONS to him and his investors. No wonder the company went belly up. It was all part of the plan.
Obama lies when the truth would do.
Hey Romney supporter. Don't you forget he hid his money in Swiss that USA won't touch his money for tax. Obviously he is not honest. He bullied a student in high school. He said "recall" oh boy! he knows he does not want anyone to know. if he becames a president that will haunt a person wht he did to him will be badly. Also during Romney was on governor. His employment rank in US is 47 out of 50. does it ring to you? Yes? good luck
You need to practice your english a lot more.
wow, you must have a 4th grade education. Please do everyone a favor and go back to school.
And get yourself into the hands of a competent tax preparer...one who will tell you that ALL of your income, wherever earned in the world, is subject to US Taxation.
The Romneys paid out 42 percent of their income in taxes and charity in 2011. 3.2 million paid in taxes for the 2011 tax year and 3 million in 2010. That is a lot of taxes paid and benefited many. I do not understand how anyone could be outraged that he didn't pay enough??? Really? Now lets look at GE which paid no taxes in 2010 – think Obama had something to do with that? I'd say yes. Obama is living off our dime and so is his wife. How many more vacations can she squeeze out of us before we kick them out of office? I bet they'll milk us for plenty!
Take yor meds....
I owned a business in MA under Romney's governorship. The jobless rate went from 6.5% down to 4.7% - Romney didn't create jobs because we didn't NEED them. I remember not being able to find help. Nice lie by Axelrod that you took – hook, line and stinker!
Poor erick he cant even swallow the oblunder lies any more who is the biggest creep GIBBS who did this?? OBLUNDER for insisting on it??? Or the guy who sold his (im sorry to say) deceased wife to the democraps
WELL, AT LEAST HE DIDN'T ASSOCIATE WITH FACIST, COMMUNISTS AND DO DOPE,
AND HE HAS DONE HIS FAIR SHARE OF BULLYING, STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID AND WAKE UP,
YOU ARE FALLING RIGHT INTO HIS BRAINWASHING MONTARA.
Romney lies when he opens his mouth
Barack Obama 2012
Ron Paul 2016
and Oblunder doesnt, this proves it
None of these guys deserve to be President. Both campaigns are doing things that we try to teach children not to do,and that is to lie.
Wow! A random act of journalism by CNN. Who woulda thunk it? This ridiculous ad isn't even 'stretching' the truth, it's just an outright lie. No surprise that it came from a DNC super pac.
So much for Mr. Hope and Change. Obama and his Chicago thug cronies are the dirtiest bunch of politicians to hit Washington. They make Nixon look like a saint. You Libs that support this crap are the worst kind of hypocrits.
No one can be worst than Romney.
Um... the word would be "worse", but when speaking of the current White House occupier we say "worst".
TRY OBAMA, PELOSI AND REID, THE 3 STOOGES
Dave there are no bigger thugs and croocks than the one you speak for. You feel me.
No Nitro I don't. I represent myself. I support myself, family, and extended family. Your slang makes you sound like you support a habit.
You REPUBLICANS are all nothing but big mouth scum...
Starting with druggie RUSH! Romey does not know
what truth is, and the rest of you are too stupid to know.
You may be louder, but that is all you have, that and
billions of dollars, from those who are very racist.
. If you win or buy the election, this country
will say "goodbye" to the middle class. Mexico will
not be the 3rd world country, The USA will be far worse.
"Druggie Rush"? How about Choom Gang Barry"? Take off your blinders.
I agree with John 100%. I hope we take over the whole of the house and Senate, we already have the White house.
WOW, THE BRAINWASHING WORKED WONDERS ON YOU!!
Looks like all the limpdog fans missed there blog site and decided to crash an intelligent site run by a real news organization. My advice, Get Lost, Go Home, we don't want you here. Go play with your guns.
More like Joe SEPTIC..as in full of s**t
Romney stopped his day-to-day oversight at Bain Capital in 1999 when he left to run the Salt Lake City Olympics, though he officially remained CEO until 2002. Bain Capital shut down GST Steel in 2001, costing Soptic his job.
The bishop might have "stopped" his day to day oversight but he was still signing papers for Bain from 1999 to 2002.
In other words he was in charge when Mr. Soptic lost his job. This is a lie how?
Because his wife got sick in 2006, four years after the latest possible date that Romney would have been associated with Bain. 4 years later! Obama's PAC made it sound like she got sick the very next week. It was 4 freaking years later.
This is why I hate all politics...what blatant lies...this guy lost his job in 2001...his wife was still working...and insured. She died in June of 2006 (5 years later)...why would anyone want to go on national TV and blame one single person for the death of his wife??? Why would the president of the United States allow such a lie be aired.. I think all political ads should be banned for the air...Just like cigarette ads...the are both hazardous to our health.
Joe Soptic wasn't feeling to bad...he was cruising in his Big Red Covette with his "new" wife.
His janitor job must have been paying pretty good. He is a member of local KC Covette Club and doesn't seem to be as downtrodden as he wants to let on!
Cancel all the ads...vote them all out and I vote for Warren Buffett for President!
If you liked G. Bush–you will LOVE Romney. He even has Bush's people working for him.
Good i love me some bush.....
Loved the guy. It was nice to have a grown-up in the White House rather than the man-child..
I DID AND I DO
Aw, come on. Someone related to the Democrats lying?
Why are Obama supporters so frequently illiterate?
For the same reason they are government leeches
Funny, I say the same thing about Republicans and their illiterate responses. But I'm more concerned with the fact that Republicans put ignorant people in positions of power: like putting the man who thinks women's bodies stop contraception during rape on the House Science committee. It makes me wonder if the ignorance of Republicans is willful.
If his name was still on the paper then he was responsible. Stop trying to say that he was gone. Your name was still there which makes you the man.
"Romney stopped his day-to-day oversight at Bain Capital in 1999 when he left to run the Salt Lake City Olympics, though he officially remained CEO until 2002." – CNN
Thanks to Obama campaign for helping the American people see beyond the Romney smokescreen.
Yet the ad (I sure there are others) has been deemed a LIE and NOT by Fox news either! No witty words about that?
Interesting choice of words "smoke screen". This is exactly what the Obama administration has done throughout his term and now into the campaign. Reid, with unsubstantiated charges of Romney not paying taxes, when every major paper in the country is saying that Reid is incorrect. I say, he's just a liar. Now this story of linking Romney to someone's death, which they had to manipulate the dates to even make it fit! What garbage! This is the real smoke screen, and it's to keep the attention away from the terrible job that Obama has done in office.
YOU GOT TO LOVE CITIZENS UNITED. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW REPUBLITARDS. THERE ARE JUST AS MANY LIBERATARDS WHO WOULD MORE THAN LOVE TO PLAY YOUR GAME AND ARE PROBABLY BETTER AT IT.
The Obama Campaign's name is NOT on that commercial as an Obama approved message. Mitt says the same things when a super-pac says something that his name isn't on as an approved message.
If you are mad about this kind of stuff happening, which I personally am, then bitchout the Supreme Court that has allowed secret campaign commercials done by God-knows who to make this kind of trouble.
Based on the timeline, Mr. Romney was the official company CEO when Bain closed GST Steel. Mr. Soptic lost the ability to provide financial security for is family. The loss of the major bread winner's job causes an enormous amount of stress on the spouse. Stress causes and exacerbates many serious heath problems.
Obama is to blame for the suffering of millions of long-term unemployed people in America today. His timeline and his watch. More than 20 million long-term unemployed during Obama's term, and Obama and his job-killing policies like Obamacare are to blame. The Obama Depression has devastated millions of families – home were lost, savings vanished, families destroyed, people killed. Obama owns it ALL. Because Obama is an arrogant narcissist, he doesnt care a whit about the suffering of people in today's economy, but keeps pushing his government control policies that just hurt us more.
So....let me see if I follow what your saying. If someone loses their job because the company that they work for goes out of business-because it isn't profitable to keep it open and something happens to that former employee, their children or spouse then they can blame it on someone in the company that signed the papers to close the plant? Oh good... well, just another thing for us to whine about!
Life causes stress. You can't really expect the whole world to make everything easy for you just so you don't have to face a little stress. That's the problem with our country. Everyone wants to blame someone else for their problems. Life is tough. Deal with it!
You liberals are amazing. You put down people for lying then you support lies. I wish you could be consistent, when you are not you are just crappy Kool-Aid drinkers. Obama can't be blames cause we are in a 'Global financial crisis' but Bush can??? Come on!! It was global, I agree. Bush gave us 6 of 8 years that were good (last 2 Dems owned the House and Senate!!!) Obama has given us 3 and a half years of CRAP while turning us against each other!!! Enough is Enough!!!
The blatant lying is almost expected from the super PACs but when you throw in the Senate Majority Leader, Congress Minority Leader, the presidents campaign manager, and even the Obozo himself it is stupid and childish. Is this the type of leadership you want?
Russ if you dont have proof that they are lying then STFU.
All you need is a little common sense and an IQ over 3 to see the childish lies. It's like watch a 3 year old saying it was his 2 month old sister that ate the candy.
read the article dummy the truth lies within
SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE NO PROOF AND RESORT TO CHILDISH ANALOGIES.
Ok lets just look at the last couple days. Hary Reid: Romney hasn't payed any taxed for 10 years. Nancy Pelosi: Sen. Reid said somone told him. It's a fact. Axelrod: "completely false I never had any such discussion". Obozo: Romney wants to increse taxs on the middleclass and give it to the rich.
Now it's your turn to prove they are telling the truth.
SO YOUR PROOF IS ESSENTIALLY CONNECTING OTHER PEOPLE'S SOUNDBITES AND RHETORIC. YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE PROVEN MITT ROMNEY OF NOT PAYING TAXES AS REID ACCUSED HIM OF. WELL DONE MATLOCK!
The proof has already been given, Reid is flat out lying and Obama is now a part of it by the fact that he hasn't spoken out against it during a campaign. His own party has already said as much. I can't believe such idiots still exist in the Democrat party, but behold, here you are.
This is for DEcember 2012 – you twit
Ad linking Romney to death of the wife of a laid off steelworker not accurate
CNN White House Correspondent Brianna Keilar
The ad makes it seem like Joe Soptic's wife, Ilyona, lost her battle with cancer shortly after he lost his job at GST Steel in Missouri, where he had worked for almost 30 years.
"When Mitt Romney closed the plant I lost my healthcare, and my family lost their healthcare," Soptic says in the ad put out by Priorities USA Action, the main pro-Obama super PAC. "A short time after that, my wife became ill. I don’t know how long she was sick and I think maybe she didn’t say anything because she knew we couldn’t afford the insurance."
Joe Soptic, an Obama supporter who appeared in another political ad released by the Obama campaign back in May, told CNN he blames Romney for the loss of his job and his insurance.
Grow up and research before you make yourself look like an arse. Your team lies period! But if that's how you like it, then keep your eyes closed. You will not be able to pass on this great country to your children since we will no longer be great. Think about it real hard. Then vote your conscience...
WHY WOULD OBAMA SPEAK ABOUT IT? MITT ROMNEY IS THE BIGGEST LOSER FOR RESPONDING TO IT, NOT LIKE HE HAS A CHOICE BECAUSE HE DUG HIS OWN GRAVE.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP. THAT SOUNDS LIKE MITT ROMNEY TRYING TO TALK HIMSELF INTO SOME COMMON SENSE.
Romney left Bain in 1999. GST was closed in 2001. She died in 2006. I know math is hard for Dems, but maybe you can get some help from a neighbor or something.
Romney gave me an intestinal disease, I just can't take his c-ap anymore it hurts my stomach and I will die because he did it to me.
So what you are saying is that you are just full of it.
Well, since your up Obama's @ss, maybe that explains it. Just sayin...
Oh. by the way, I heard that Obama and Reid gangbanged Pelosi while MIchelle filmed it.
CNN – BREAKING NEWS ; Obamacare voted down by supreme court -–? Oh wait a minute.
Hey with all the lies that have been told about the president for the last 3 1/2 years and the accusations an demonizing he has taken ? if I was Obama I would say anything I want at this point. After all, whats good for the Goose is good for the Gander. Isn't it ?
Boy the liberals are quiet with this one. I guess there is no disputing the lies here.
ACTUALLY, IN ROMNEY-SPEAK IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING LIKE DUCK SAUCE. I KID YOU NOT.
THE GAMES HAVE BEGUN AND THE REPUBLITARDS CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT. THEY CAN'T HELP IT WHEN THEY HAVE A ROBOT FOR A CANDIDATE. MAYBE THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT REPLACING HIM WITH PALIN.
Somewhere there is a village missing their idiot and here you are putting your stupidity on display.
Don't worry, nobody expects much from an Obama minion.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU MISS YOUR VILLAGE, IDIOT. WHY DO YOU CARE WHERE I AM?
The biggest lies of all have come FROM the president. Even David Maraniss couldn't whitewash them all!
I'm sorry, why is that not accurate? Romney's Bain bought GT in 94. They issued boatloads of debt with which they paid Bain partners millions in 'special dividends'. When the post-dot com bubble recession hit, they were financially vulnerable, and Bain foreclosed rather than invest further in the company.
In the process, this man lost his livlihood and his insurance, which after his wife lost her job, meant that she had no insurance either. That is directly a consequence of the amoral opportunists at Bain, including its founder, and former CEO, managing director sole stock holder and chairman of the board, one Willard 'taxes are for the little people" Romney.
This 'fact check' is pathetic.
I call on CNN, in the spirit of decency and neutrality, to sever ties from Bill Burton and Paul Begala. They were responsible for this ad, and while Wolf Blitzer showed even-keeled integrity on the program today, the network should follow suit. When these bozos are still welcome on the network, just like Hillary Rosen or Elliot Spitzer, it really hurts the network's reputation.
This campaign ad makes a valid point. The type of business practices engaged in by Romney did a lot of damage to good people. I worked for a privately owned company that was sold. My husband made a lot of money on that transaction. But 5 years later the new company closed our profitable endeavor in order to lessen market competition for their own products. This is legal but it violates the spirit of capitalism. Instead of competing fairly, they bought the competition and destroyed them. Sure it makes money for some, but lessens the quality of choice available in the marketplace for everyone else. We have no idea whether or not some of the businesses closed by Bain were closed out of economic necessity or closed because that was a more profitable decision for a few stakeholders at the expense of everyone else that worked there. Ask yourself why Romney gets millions out of a shuttered business and the people who actually created the value in the company are left without even medical care.
lol now obama saying romney killed somebody, i didn't think his admin could stoop any lower now this. Wake the hell up america this admin. is pure garbage. why doesn't obama make an ad talking about his first term and the good things he did.... that's right he didn't do anything worth a crap.
Exactly right! Chicago gangland politics at it's best!
The timeline in the article says Romney was the official CEO of Bain at the time GST Steel was closed. Regular people know that layoffs cause enormous stress on families. Stress excerbates serious health issue... like cancer.
The man is this ad is not lying...
If he had not been laid off by Bain Capital's vulture capitalism, he would still have had health insurance to care for his wife..
Whether or not the policy through Bain was his wife's secondary policy, and whether or not his wife lost her primary policy, Romney's style of vulture capitalism still took away his health insurance policy from him that he worked hard for and that went towards Romney's hundreds of millions in profits..
It is entirely reasonable for this man to have expected to have been able to depend on that health insurance policy after having worked at GST for almost 30 years..
Take your meds and go to bed, you are living in a dream world, LOL
See, this is exactly why this country can't elect Republicans and Mitt Romney..
Republicans and Mitt Romney have absolutely NO problem with coming in and taking over a company, bankrupting it, taking out millions in profits, laying off workers, and then shrugging their shoulders and saying "that's life" and ignoring the devestating impacts.
Democrats and Barack Obama understand that not only is that incredibly immoral, but it is bad economic policy as well. We need everyone to contribute to the economy. Republicans blast people for being on welfare or being lazy, but then go ahead and make it impossible for them to contribute to the economy with their immoral and regressive policies.
The choice in this election couldn't be clearer. We need to give Barack Obama another four years.
We need more ads like this to point out what Mitt Romney's private-sector career was really all about.
Your post shows you have no clue, you repeat what the democrats tell you and hope your not called ot on it.
Lizzie you did not rebut one thing liberalacrosstheboard stated; you insulted him and act as if that is a reasonable reply. It isn't. There is a study published in the Journal of General Internal Medicine that concludes those without insurance who have heart disease are up to 50% more likely to die than someone who is fully insured. This campaign ad makes a valid point about the morality of Romney's business experience.
Hi wife died 5 years later...I am not covered by an employer that I worked for 5 years ago...come on...it is a total lie...All ads should be banned!
There really is no comparing the lies flowing out of the Romney campaign the RNC, and Republican shadowy groups like so much raw sewage with the message and ads of the other side. I mean, everything but everything from the welfare thing to the 'largest tax increase in US history', to the defense spending cuts that Republicans made a condition of signing the debt ceiling increase and Romney supported (although that was over a month ago, so by his standards you can't hold him to it), to 'you didn't build that infrastructure business, is just 100% indisputable lies. While the other side at least has a leg to stand on, notwithstanding some exageration and liberties no doubt. But we're talking several orders of magnitude difference. It's so bad, if pressed, I couldn't actually think of anything the Romney campaign and Republicans are doing at this point that isn't at it's core a 100% pure unadulterated untruth.
A leg to stand on, they have no legs, all Obama and his Super PAc buddies are doing are lying to try to make people forget about all of OBama's failures. Grow up and get real you really are a fruit.
Obama's failures? You mean like bringing Bin Laden to justice. Republicans suck on a lot of sour grapes.
Joe, you're a piece of shit!
WE can all thank the Conservative Supreme Court Justice for Super Pac....Be careful what you ask for
I don't see how this explanation lets Romney off the hook. If this still had his well-paying job and insurance, his wife would have had coverage when she got sick. Meanwhile, Romney and his cronies made off with millions. Where is the inaccuracy?
A little reading comprehension is in order for you.
Something is drastically wrong when a person who is running for the highest offices feels the need to hide his tax returns...I think Romney may have inadvertently invested in a terrorist organization
It took Obozo 3+ year to prove he was born in the U.S. because he had the right to keep it private. Romney has the same right to keep his personal taxes private so quit the Obamaloney. Oh and by the way, I know Obozo work with a terrrorist organization called the Muslim Brotherhood.
RUSS IN MD, DIDN'T THEY ARREST YOUR FOR PRETENDING TO BE THE JOKER? I GUESS IT'S TRUE, THERE IS INTERNET IN PRISON.
SO YOUR POINT IS? MITT ROMNEY NEEDS TO RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS OTHERWISE HE IS JUST A BUFFOON WHO IS HIDING SOMETHING. GEORGE ROMNEY WAS NOT REQUIRED TO RELEASE 12 YEARS OF TAX RETURNS BUT HE DID BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS. HIS SON IS HIDING HIS BECAUSE HE ALSO KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.
Can I see your tax returns? Why would he show anybody his tax returns. Everybody knows he's got a lot of money, maybe he doesn't want people to see just how much money he has. Just maybe he has other reasons for not releasing his tax returns than because hes hiding some illegal activity. DORK! The Birth Certificate thing from Obama was equally ridiculous.
People !!! stop with the garbage and start focusing on the real issues and who can actually make a change for good. In the last 4 years Obama hasn't done much to resolve the major issues. I don't know if Romney will do any better, but I know what Obama's choices have done in the last 4 years and they haven't done much good. I would give anybody a vote over Obama right now, because I know they couldn't do any worse than our current president.
Are you kidding?
1. Romney is not required to show his tax returns.
2. Obama who supposedly was going to be the most transparent of presidents spent millions of dollars keeping his records sealed. They are STILL sealed!
3. As Bill Clinton's strategist said and it applies now more than ever, "IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!!"
SO YOUR POINT IS? MITT ROMNEY NEEDS TO RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS OTHERWISE HE IS JUST A BUFFOON WHO IS HIDING SOMETHING. GEORGE ROMNEY WAS NOT REQUIRED TO RELEASE 12 YEARS OF TAX RETURNS BUT HE DID BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS. HIS SON IS HIDING HIS BECAUSE HE ALSO KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.
Who was the last candidate for President that we did not have any idea what they did in college? No grades, no papers, not theses, no admission papers, nothing. All whitewashed.
I bet Romney would swap tax returns for college transcripts...
And Obama has drones flying over the American people. Wonder when he will "inadvertently" drop a bomb here.
DRONES? NAH, THAT'S JUST BATMAN P-I-S-S-ING ON YOUR ROOF.
I'm no fan of Romney and in no way will I vote for him, but come on kid's, all this talk about his tax returns and hidden money is as stupid as the Birthers claiming Obama is not an American.
Tax returns are easy to get and the Cayman Islands has a treaty with our Government to disclose all transactions made by American citizens. Don't believe me ?, call thier embassy and look up the several treaties we have with them, you can not hide money in the Cayman Islands, it's 100% BS. every cent of intrest you make on money invested in the Caymans is reported to the IRS.
Is this what Romney staffers do all day – pretend not to be Romney staffers?
Why don't you vote for the candidate that will help you out of the mess that we are in. The recovery plan Obama had in place never had been implemented in its entirety. The republicans in congress would only allow bits and pieces of the recovery plan that did nothing to change the economic growth significantly. If giving more tax breaks to the most wealthy works then why has it not created jobs in the last 8 years. We are still under Bush's tax cuts for the top income earners. This policy has cost with the war, approximately 850 billion dollars a year to the tax revenue. You can not use trickle down economic policies for long term recovery. Economic studies show it causes long term economic recession leading to depression over vast amount of years. Sounds like Romney World depression views part 2, for part 1 see George W. Bush's biography of how I caused world wide economic crisis, now available for sale on Mitt Romney's campaign bus.
The biggest mistake Bush Jr. made was not repealing Dobb, Franks, and Clinton that would have stopped the housing bubble crisis before it could bust.
Part of being president is being able to bring people together to make things happen. Which means being able to make policies that other people agree with, not just people who share your agenda. The president has acted like a dictator by not making compromises in his decisions. All that does is make people not like you. He is not a good leader because he is unable to bring people together and make decisions that can help our country. Stop blaming republicans for his failure. It is his own fault that he can't get them to pass his 'no compromise policies'.
Vote for anybody else, because I think my 4 year old girl can lead better than this man.
They tried that with Obama's 1st job stimulus bill and he gave $800+ billion to his friends in the government unions and sent jobs overseas to China and Europe. Now the Republicans want cuts in spending to equal the added cost of another stimulus, but the Dems won't cut spending.
So the fact is she lost her insurance because she lost HER job, something Romney had absolutely nothing to do with. That makes the ad a bit disingenuous, don't you think?
What is the obsession liberals have with other peoples money ?
It's because most of them do not work. Just like the occupy bunch-it all needs to be GIVEN to them, they are ENTITLED to their fair share. It doesn't matter that YOU worked for it, THEY should get it too!
While I am not crazy about Romney, he would not be my first choice, he has at least held a job in his life time. I keep looking for one of those Community Organizer jobs in the classifieds, can't seem to find one.
No, I haven't gone liberal on anyone yet but I have to admit when I am forced to live amongst the Obamabot hear in Maryland the thought has crossed my mind. Wana come over and see my gun collection?
Whaat a putz
AWWWW, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE HAD A HARD LIFE. MIGHT AS WELL END YOURSELF AND DONATE THAT GUN COLLECTION TO SAM CHILDERS WHERE IT WILL DO SOME GOOD.
it's not true? That won't matter to the Democrats. They firmly believe if you repeat a lie over and over it magically becomes the truth.
Romney left Bain in 1999 not 2001 or 02. He was on a paid leave of absence from 1999 to 2001 to run a non profit organization. This is very common in business when executives leave companies to run a charity or philanthropic organization and they need time to manage their options etc or the company agrees to pay the executive so the non profit gets the exec. free for a certain amount of time. I have seen it done many times. Soptic is being used by Obama and his campaign who are committing yet another lie.
The Romney campaign disputes the ad’s accuracy...... I take it romney disputes the fact if he hadn't closed down the factory she would still have had insurance ????
Read the facts, she lost her insurance when SHE lost her job.
You see, you put the plain truth right in front of these liberals and they just don't get it. Can they not READ the article? I mean really, Romney had NOTHING to do with this woman dying of cancer, the article clearly proves it and you STILL have these libs supporting Obama. It is amazing!
It's clear who has the record to save America, and who hasn't despite over 3.5 years in office. Obama has been a big failure. I hope Americans aren't persuaded by his constant attempts at distraction. I have faith that Americans are smarter than that. This is not the man he sold himself as in 2008, or 2004. Please vote him out. I need a better job, and I don't need to be taxed because I lost my good job in Obama's continued recession. And I'm not alone. There are over 4 million of us hanging on out here.
The person in charge of running Bain when Mr. Soptic lost his job IS A MAJOR OBAMA SUPPORTER! Wake up, people! You're being lied to!
Please, please, PLEASE Obama supporters stop trying to defend this buffoon. READ the article! Romney had nothing to do with the woman's death. Stop defending this bozo who gave you false hope changed this country into the most divided nation since the civil war. Divide and conquer is the name of his game and the whole country is suffering as a result.
Thank you CNN for speaking the truth. Other news organizations don't have the guts to do real journalism. This type of reporting will revive your network. You need to be the facts/journalism network, not the partisan network. Other networks have partisans locked up.
CBS news this morning reviews on economic plans for both candidates. Under President Barack Obama's tax reform bill people who earn under 3 million dollars a year or less will see very little change to the tax they pay, with no increase for net income of $250,000 or under. Under Mitt Romney's tax reform bill you will have an increase in taxes for any person who makes under 3 million dollars a year and decrease in taxes for individuals earning more than 3 million dollars a year. This puts all the tax revenue burden on the middle class Americans with no change to the current economic trend for the past 8 years. This is the same policy that George W. Bush's cabinet enacted to get the economy booming. This led to world wide economic crisis starting in 2005 to 2009. If you vote for Mitt Romney you are voting for a repeat of the same policy of the economic crisis that caused the 2nd largest economic failure in American history. I don't blame any one party for the economic crisis, but if you don't change direction and try another approach to this problem then you are to blame. The Republicans have held the American people hostage and it is time to try another approach. President Obama had only small parts of the economic recovery passed before the Republicans took control of congress. The President's plans are very similar to that of President Clinton's for our future recovery. Economic growth and strong monetary policy with prosperity for all classes occurred while Clinton's policies were in affect. Republicans have had their way for 10 years its time to move on and try to rebuild America. Small Business Development votes for Obama and economic recovery without Republican views or with them, the Republicans that want to change course. If you are proud of the work that the republicans have done in congress this past two years then you are in the minority. America has an average of 80 to 90 percent disapproval of congress in the last two years. This is why the economy has not changed fast enough for most of the people. We can't go back to 2005. You can do the right thing for the world's economy and vote for Obama.
You should listen to other news sources rather than the Communist Broadcast System. They spin it just the way you want.
Obama has been a disaster for the country and if you can't face that reality I can't help ya. Not even the Democrats would pass Obama's plan.
REALLY? COMMIES? REALLY?
The last 3.5 years WAS another approach!
1. I don't blame any one party for the economic crisis YES YOU DO! See #2-4
2. The Republicans have held the American people hostage
3. Republicans have had their way for 10 years
4 You can do the right thing for the world's economy and vote for Obama.
Now that funny
Obama has no understanding of an economy, which is why he and Senate Democrats have not produced a viable budget during his whole presidency. If you can't understand a budget, then you sure as heck don't understand a global economy.
RUSH LIMBAUGH: MITT, YOU SHOULD RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS IF OBAMA RELEASES HIS COLLEGE RECORDS. WHAT DO YOU SAY?
MITT: YOU SHOULD JUST SHUT UP, FAT MAN.
Your comments are exceptional examples of Obama supporters. Are you old enough to vote?
WHY JERRY SANDUSKY, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A DATE?
I blame Bush.....
Why are you so rude and mean? You are saying some very strange things that make no sense. You are not making any type of rational point but embaressing yourself : ) wierdo
I blame Bush.
Ypu sound like you need to go back to school. Maybe you do not know what that means. Poor you!!!!!!!
AWWWW, DID I HURT THE RUSH LIMBAUGH GROUPIES FEELINGS? COME ON, I KNOW THE TRUTH HURTS BUT HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT.
Romney, It is time to take off the gloves and kick some rats butt.
HE WON'T TAKE OFF HIS GLOVES FOR FEAR OF CATCHING POOR PEOPLE'S DISEASE.
Outsourcing American jobs to over seas sweat shops. Is this the business experience of a future president?
Finally the Dems are taking their gloves off. Good to see the Repubs getting Swiftboated. As Ol' Tip would say " Politics ain't beanbags"
People wake up the POWER is not the Presidency it's the CONGRESS . Change starts there not POTUS,
Sorry to disagree but, CHANGE STARTS WITH US. And, until we realize that we are on the SAME TEAM ,which is called the United States of America AND NOT REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS OR INDEPENDENTS OF DIFFERING NAMES, we won't be able to govern ourselves.
I've watched the ad. And I've read the rebuttal of facts. I think things are not always as they seem. Here's yet another way to look at the facts:
The date of Romney's disconnect from Bain is actually debatable. Also, I doubt Bain's philosophy changed much in two years. Also, Mr. Soptic said his wife got sick shortly after the plant closed but he isn't sure how long because she didn't say anything. (A lie, or part of the tragic story as he sees it?) Also, I sure wouldn't think a thrift store gig (which is where Mrs. Soptic worked) would carry the kind of benefits as working at a plant might. Also, surely going from a two- to a one-income family would hurt their ability to pay co-insurance...
What I see in this story and others like it is a venture capital company that values big profit way above human beings. That philosophy, in our Presidency, deeply concerns me.
Mindy, you assume the plant wasn't already on the brink of closing down. Was it? Also, businesses shut down all the time, people lose their jobs, insurance, etc. It sucks for those involved. However, if we get too caught up in thinking about each individual person, then no layoffs happen, then the business sinks, and even more people are in trouble. It is part of the process. I fear because of politics, some will refuse to think big picture and just try to vilify the candidate (especially if he is rich–the jealousy is amazing). Maybe you know all the facts. Maybe Bain hunted down this plant which was otherwise stable, and shut it down just to fill the pockets of a couple of people (though I see there are over 5000 people employed by Bain alone–people who undoubtedly have sick spouses and need health insurance), but I would be surprised. Things aren't usually so black and white. I can understand why this man would be bitter, it happened to him. There are countless similar stories, however, but they aren't as convenient for political campaigning. For those who just hate big business, well, then I suppose you are consistent, but if you are reading this post then you probably have big business to thank for the device you are using. We need some balance and some changes, but let's at least be honest about the issues and not let politics blind us (well, good luck with that...not sure we can ever get there).
His wife had her own insurence policy when old joe was fired. She had it through her own job up until she was fired in 2005. So Joe is just a Lying SOB. So how much money did Old Joe take to sell out his dead wife? If i was his kid i would beat the S** *out of him for disgracing my moms death.
HEY MATT! Ole' Joe Soptic is just another one of those Super Entitled Union Slob's he can't help himself! I spent over 35-years trying too supervise his kind in them thar Detroit Auto Plants and I could tell Yo stories about guy's like Old Joe Soptic that would rightly curl Yo toes! So don't get too upset, guys like Joe Soptic ain't gots NO shame period!!!!
once again cnn carrying water for romney. gergen, burnettt, cooper all in the romney tank. you take romney at face value instead of investigating as you would do another candidate.his name appears on documents at least as late as 2002 maybe later if you would do your jobs, but just like his tax returns oh mitt would never lie to us.
be prepared for what you get America: romney-ryan will end mortgage interest deductions, charitable contributions , and destroy social security, medicare and medicaid,
romney will lie he wants to be all to all. real news has a document he signed as governor for a waiver on the wel;fare to work program because he thought it was a hardship yet today he says he will reinstitute the program that we find out wasnt stopped. hey cnn why not run that story.
Chumps like Mitt Romney are exactly whats wrong with corporate America. He's the typical CEO who only cares about looking good on paper to make himself and his cronies a nice penny.
Pathetic piece of junk I hope rots in a hot place with all the other scum who sells this country out for a dollar.
Obama is your typical Chicago style politician......corrupt!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would rather have a business man to be president than a community organizerr who is way over his head.
Dems have finally learned that if you can't beat the Repub's lies, might as well join them. Turnabout is fair play.
CITIZENS UNITED AT ITS FINEST. IT'S UNFORTUNATE AND I'M HOPING THEY WILL ALL GO BROKE BEFORE THEY HAVE ANY REAL EFFECT BUT I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT.
I have wondered if that would happen, it would be such poetic justice.
Russ in MD...and all the other blind & dumb romneyhood supporters, .how on earth can you support the guy that hates the United States. He is so un-American. He sends his money to Swiss Banks and the Cayman Islands and he looks for all the loop holes he can find to avoid paying his fair share of taxes. Even though he loves to use all things American, the highways, the bridges, the lakes, etc., etc., but refuses to pay his fair share for the upkeep of these precious American privileges. His #1 goal is to win the White House just to help his wealthy crook friends continue to stock pile their wealth. Romney is a dangerous man. He will bring our country to total ruin if elected. Romney is so out of touch, he's against women and all middle class families. Romney is the wrong person to represent anyone.
You got the names wrong, You are confusing Romney with crackhead obama.Get it right.
This ad is so out there and a blatant distortion of the truth that its truly shameful that a death was played upon to gain ground in this race. Chicago, Chicago, Chicago.....This is how the Obama campaigns have been run in every race he has been in. Solution: Clean things up, Romney shows his tax returns in exchange for all the applications and transcripts that Obama has spent at least $1,000,000 and possibly up to $4,000,000 to keep sealed . Theres a reason that his college information is under wraps and its starting to smell. This way , Harry Reid will be proven a liar and we will have full transparency to all the secrets. I can tell you for a fact, Obama will not look good when this is done.
What really bugs me the most, is that you can have the reports of the different news sources, those of different economists, historians, past policies experts, journalists writing of world events and how they affect the U.S., AND when you try to have a conversation here, they call you a commie, and spout-off that Obama has ruined the country. Guess what guys, look in the mirror and tell me if you could run a country of idiots and endure the same hands-down, god-awful treatment? Some of you don't even know how to balance your own bank statement. It's obvious some of you have an agenda that doesn't have anything to do with the successful running of this country. Some that post here lay out the different views of people who are smarter than the rest of us, and way too many of you folks just won't have it. I personally think some of you are so below par in your education, are incapable of logic or use any sort of forward thinking ideas and are content to be that way 'cause all you offer up is the same-old, same-old stupid, ignorant remarks. Help your country by being willing to read a book on something important for a change instead of bashing a man who is trying to help the MOST UNGRATEFUL BUNCH OF A$$HOLES THIS COUNTRY HAS AN OVER_ABUNDANCE OF.
I have not heard any of you say much about our country's achievements, like for instance how great it is that we are exploring Mars or that, the Olympians are performing as never before. And, isn't it great that after 10 yrs of two wars some of our men are finally coming home to their families. Why? I don't care who you vote for, but, something tells me way too many of you have never set foot in a polling place and that's pretty disappointing. And if that's the real story of you -not only do you waste our time with your crappy views – you waste your own.
Mitt Romney won't release his tax returns and he wants to be the President? We already know he's a lying CEO crook making millions manipulating the corporate world. He's also born into a cult who thinks Thomas Monson is a living prophet.
Good grief as a Republican I'm suppose to believe in this chump? No way I'll re-elect Obama before I want a bible thumping idiot in there who's going to support more laws that take our freedoms away. ie, Happy Hour just made illegal in Utah
Tell me....has Obama released his college records? What is he hiding that they have to be sealed and he has paid so much money to keep them so? When Obama opens up his sealed records then Romney will release his tax returns.
That's because crackhead obama has no legitimate past.That's why deadbeat obama hopes to get reinstalled because when president Romney gets elected,we will all find out how much of a fraud crackhead obama really is.
How did Mitt end up with $100 Million in an IRA 'retirement account that is tax-free' when the yearly deposit limit is $6,000.?? I went to college but, I can't figure out how Mitt was able to pull this off in the time frame that this program has been in place.
Willard isn't playing straight on his newest ad that HE APPEARS IN (so, obviously is endorsing)
Whipping up the 'Welfare' haters who don't know whether they are suppose to love it or hate it after Mitt does his verbal walk-in the-wilderness. Which of course, is meant to drop a match on his pinecone-headed supporters, dancing through the flames of confusion while claiming he's Smokey-the-Bear.
Welfare is only collected if you are in a 'WORK' program. They don't just hand it over if you are able-bodied. I know, I know, y'all like to think they do, but they don't ever since Clinton helped to reform the system.
The states have been asking for a Waiver in how they deal with the welfare 'work' program, thinking that they can come up with solutions to get people off of welfare more quickly and into more stable and better jobs helping them to earn their way into independence faster. Mitt endorsed the wavier idea before and Obama has agreed to allow the states a waiver who want to experiment with their own ideas. But, now Mitt is attacking Obama on the very same thing he endorsed before. Saying now, that Welfare will be given to those who don't work – which is an absolute falsehood pointed out by not only people who are and will be running the program but, by several news sources and policy experts. Why is Mitt doing something so misleading? My guess, is that he needs to "fire up the base' and of course, his base, the Republicans, HATE WELFARE ( especially the hand-out kind) because then they won't be asking any hard questions about Mitt as they scream, and tear their hair out over something that isn't going to happen.
SuperPACs do what they want – thanks to the Supreme Court's decision, that leads to this 'My wife got sick because of Mitt' ad. But, Romney is IN this ad. So, he can't deny that he had nothing to do with it. I feel like he just told all of us we aren't worthy of the truth so, it doesn't matter if it isn't truthful. He just wasted alot of his money on something that is easily disproven. Guess, when you have a ton of it, it's not a problem but, geesh, another round of hateful discourse will be coming from his supporters who will once again be saying Obama's to blame for something he isn't even doing.
If had 1/2 brain i think you would view things diff
@BBs for brains
Today's feature article in CNN Money features Manufacturing Businesses of Northeast Indiana which have thousands of job openings with some companies receiving up to 500 applicants for jobs.
Their is a widening gulf (that's just short of an ocean size) GAP between job openings and qualified applicants to fill them.
*Applicants are failing drug tests
*Half get dumped because folks won't fill out the entire eight page form.
*Another big chunk won't make it past the phone interview.
It is estimated that the state needs about 40,000 to 50,000 manufacturing workers to meet the uptick in production (something Mitt can't claim he had a hand in)
One company, added 200 workers over the past two years. They need ANOTHER 100.
In May alone, they accepted 129 applications and after screening them down to 40 they administered an industry test AND ONLY 4 PEOPLE PASSED. ALL FOUR were offered the job AND ONLY ONE ACCEPTED. Not unusual statistics for manufacturing in that state's reporting.
Cynthia – Have you looked at Dingy Harry's finances? Can you tell us how he earned millions while he was in office? You bash a good person like Romney – who has come close to donating more to charity that 99% of the dems in office. But you side with a obvious crook (last count Reid has earned 4 million WHILE IN OFFICE)!!
BTW, how do you feel about 400 million in food stamps going to people who do not qualify? How do you feel about Cali offering free food to all – needy or not? How do you feel about hiring over 4000 IRS Officers – ALL UNDER OBAMA???
Until, we as the citizens of this country decide we will pay attention to what EVERYBODY DOES this TIT-FOR-TAT leaves your cotton-candy falling off your own stick-of-fools and you crying like a baby because it was bought by your parents last dollar. GROW UP AMERICA!!!!
I guess only thoughtless, argumentative, ad hominem attack posts are allowed, since my post describing who was actually in charge of Bain when Mr. Soptic (remember him? - he's one of the main subjects of this article) lost his job, didn't make it past the reviewers.
Hey, Joe- You're out of touch! What a disgrace and a liar. He didn't take care of his wife and now he wants to blame anyone but himself. He should be ashamed. His wife is probably turning over in her grave- that is if he didn't dump her in a pauper's grave at the government's expense since Joe is of the opinion that he isn't responsible for his own family and likes to put the blame on others. What a putz!
He didn't take care of his wife? What a freking moron you are.. How do you feel about Dingy Harry making millions WHILE IN OFFICE???
More lies , once again a SuperPac supporting Democrats are spreading lies, hate and discontent about a person. Super Pacs need to be outlawed in this country. A bunch of crooks and liars.
Let's just review one of Romney's last ads THAT HE APPEARED IN and claimed ownership through his campaign-
That was his 'We Built It" ad featuring disgruntled small business owners that were claiming that Obama's message that Americans help each other succeed through individual, private sector AND government combining their efforts to build on success WAS AN INSULT TO THEM.
The MIAMI HERALD NEWS ORGANIZATION Found out that the small business guy that was featured 'bitching that he built it himself' and the government shouldn't take credit, HAD RECEIVED GOV'T HELP $916,000 for one AND another 1.6 Million Dollar contract with Florida schools. Not only that, 15 other small business owners that appeared in that ad ALSO HAD REC'D GOV'T HELP. MITT GOT CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN ON THAT ONE......once again. And, his supporters true to their nature, ran around with their hair on fire, pointing to Obama and said he lied because "He wanted votes".
Maybe the PACS do the dirty work, but most of the voters are smart enough to know who is behind the dirty ads. Doesn't matter which party it is, the candidate is behind it.
So, it isn't okay for a real man (not an actor) who worked at a plant that was closed by Romney and Bain while Romney WAS AT BAIN to have a voice and tell his story? This is how the man saw the destruction of not only his job but, his healthcare with it that covered his family. Bain and Romney walked away wiith $9 million dollars. It's cold.
"Not Accurate" is not accurate. Outright Lies would be a more accurate description. Why doesn't Bloomberg make a law about deceptive political ads-if you can't use self control getting a soda, you certainly can't be trusted to know truth from fiction–but maybe that's what the Dems are counting on. The gentleman in this ad should be ashamed of himself, using his wife's death for political purposes what a selfish man.
There are enough "real" stories of hardship that we shouldn't have the need to stretch the truth. Mr. Soptic, are you also blaming the steel company execs and the thrift store execs for your wife's death? I'm sorry you lost your wife to cancer, but let's focus on the real issues and not play to people's emotions with distored facts. Now you just look like an idiot and an opportunist.
Once again the Obama campaign makes baseless claims and hits new lows in American politics. No class and no morals.
You people actually expect truth from Obama? Why do you lefties believe anything he says?
Im sorry u liost your wife. However she didnt have her own insurance??? You didnt save all the years u were working?? SHE DIDNT TELL U SHE WAS SICK??? U are just like Oblameo always blamming someone else for your short commings JUST ONCE ID LIKE TO SEE A REPORTER FACT CHECK SOMETHING AND NOT SPEW LIES LIKE HARRY REID
I thought Joe Soptic looked familiar. I remember seeing him in an Obama campaign ad months ago. In that ad he said something like: "don't worry, Obama will fix it if we give him another chance." Somebody made a parody video of the ad, and the ad itself became a huge internet joke before they yanked it. And now they're dragging this tired old geezer out of the mothballs again. Epic fail.
I wonder what will be said to all those people who lost their jobs under Obama and also lost their healthcare and have also died because of an illness that was not treated in the early stages. I am sure Obama will have alot to explain to these families because if Romney is responsible for thisi woman then Obama is also responsible for these other people as well. What is good for the goose is good for the gander!!!!!!!!
"Romney stopped his day-to-day oversight at Bain Capital in 1999 when he left to run the Salt Lake City Olympics, though he officially remained CEO until 2002."
How do you get a CEO job where you do not have to do anything and you are not responsible for anything that happens on your 'CEO watch'? There is clearly a right wing bias in this story. This tacit assumption takes Mitt's rationalization as fact. What happened to critical journalism? As "Chief Executive Officer" you are chiefly responsible for executive decisions, right?....even if you would prefer to blame others for bad decisions, the buck stops with you...unless you are Romney or Bush – then you get special dispensation with special meanings to words that reporters should just parrot as fact!
Still awaiting moderation?...I must have struck a nerve if CNN cannot take criticism on one article. I normally think you folks are even handed in your coverage. I would not have guessed CNN would censor reasonable critical comments.
put aside the ad. put aside Romney's role at Bain. put aside the politics. stop quibbling and consider the underlying reality. we live in the last developed country on earth where health care is not a right, where workers have close to zero power, and where managers are free to destroy the livelihoods of workers for profit, even if it means looting their pension funds and throwing them out on the street with no health insurance– even if means employing foreign workers and strenghthening foreign economies in favor of our own. still americans worship the almighty dollar with such devotion that we allow this to continue. the right wing calls this 'freedom' . they think it is a good thing. they are wrong. it is not freedom. it is serfdom. the managers that do this arenot admirable businessmen, they are unpatriotic sociopaths.
When will the lies that the Obama campaign catch up with Obama ... Someday ... somehow ... someone is going to realize that Obama is a liar and report on it directly.
Curious, if Soptic's goals are altruistic and his primary concern is the loss of his wife, then why has he completely obviated the fact that had ObamaCare been in full-force at the time his wife was diagnosed 'she still would have died from lack of treatment' - further, UNDER THE ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS OF OBAMACARE THE SOPTICS WOULD HAVE BEEN FINED FOR NOT HAVING INSURANCE.
That is smack. Obamacare would have allowed them into a collective healthcare plan where other people of the same income could afford to have it.
The only people who get fined ARE the ONES WHO CAN AFFORD to buy insurance and DON'T same as in Mass. You know, the program Mitt put in place.
Obama's campaign assumes that there will be no fact checking. For the faithful facts are not necessary. This recent stunt is just the beginning of a re-election campaign that is getting desperate. Get out the popcorn and soda pop, the real show is about to begin.
What makes me laugh is how hypocritical democrats and obama lovers are. No way can Obama spread lies! But Wo unto the Republicans if they say something they don't like!
Here are the folks responsible for this Ad BTW
Bill Burton (founder): campaign press secretary for Obama, later named White House deputy press secretary.
Sean Sweeney (founder): former chief of staff to White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.
Harold Ickes (president): registered lobbyist with strong union ties who was formerly the deputy chief of staff
President Bill Clinton and who served in senior positions in the presidential campaigns of both Bill and Hillary Clinton.
This is amazing! The Democrats reach into the sewer to find Joe Septic, a man run over – not by Mitt Romney, but greedy union bosses, to whine that by some inexplicable logic that Mitt is responsible for his wife's loss of insurance and death. Turns out that he had nothing whatsoever to do with HER employer going belly up. David Axelrod – the man behind these appalling ads – is destroying whatever chance Obama has with thinking Americans. He cynically believes that everyone acts on emotion and never checks facts. Not everyone, but unfortunately far too many. Remember the woman who gushed after the 2008 election: "Obama is going to buy me a car!" Axelrod – what a sleazeball.
and mitt left baine when?? pick a date he keeps changing it. Show us your tax returnes milktoast. People that compare college transcrips with tax returnes are just the idiots the repo party love, Get real you clowns do you want a president who lies about taxes and then gives his buddies a break while increasing your taxes? How stupid are you???
Mitts 2010 taxes have been posted, and it also shows he gave 3million to charity. Typical democrat drinking the kool-aid and listening to that pederast Harry Reid
Nothing here shows the ad to be inaccurate. Soptic says his wife didn't seek a diagnosis for her symptoms because she knew they couldn't afford treatment without insurance...a normal experience for people without insurance. If Soptic hadn't lost his job, then his wife could have sought medical help before it was too late. CNN is really straining to argue that Romney had nothing to do with Bain's policies that hollowed GST Steel. Soptic is obviously right that vulture capitalists who manipulate companies to their own advantage and without regard for the welfare of those companies or their employees do bear wider responsibility for the havoc they leave in their wake. Bain left a lot of havoc in its wake.
How could Mr Soptic do this to his children, his current wife, friends, and most of all to his deceased wife. The compressed timeline in this ad is despicable. His wife died in 2006 after a short illness with cancer. The steel mill closed in 2001. His wife had her own job and insurance, but then lost it because of an injury. This is beyond a stretch to blame Romney for his wife's death. Shame on the Obama campaign for airing such an ad.
HEY! Since when has BO ever demostrated any MORAL'S what so ever! Ya'll saw what he did to that Poor Neighborhood Watch Guy down yonder in Sanford, Florida. With that PHONY Race-baiting "IF I HAD A SON" Song & Dance routine! I know I sure won't miss him once he rides off in to the Sunset come next January the 20th.
Amazing, so repuks tell LIES after LIES and that is 'freedom of speech' REALLY!
Wow, are you that drunk on the Liberal Kool-Aid that you would actually defend an ad like this??? Wow, you are pathetic
THAT WAS A TEST-waiting for folks to even noticed I spelled my own name differently to see if you can "really read"
I must say I am a little shocked that CNN even posted this story.
NO LIE! I am still in complete & utter SHOCK myself!!!!! lol!!!!!
Wow! CNN did some research for a change. Imagine if they did the same for Romney ads.
The MIAMI HERALD NEWS ORGANIZATION reported on Mitt's last big money expeniture on BOOGUS ADS -WHICH, MITT APPREARED IN. That was the 'WE BUILT IT" commerical that had a small busines owner, spokesperson, who TOOK OFFENSE at Obama claiming that individuals, private investors, AND the GOV"T helped Americans by joining talents and resources that NOT ONE created by themselves in the whole picture of success.
The spokesperson for that ad was found to have taken GOV'T MONEY one amount totaling $916,000 and another for 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS from the Miami school districts. ALSO FINDING that 15 of the other small business group HAD TAKEN GOV'T HELP as well.
Cindy again your not keeping up this is about The Chief lying democrap OBLUNDER!! TIME FOR OBLUNDER TO MAN UP HE SAID HE WOULDNT RUN IF UNEMP WAS OVER 6%, HE SAID HE WOULD CUT THE DEFICET IN HALF=HE DIDNT I SAY MAN UP OBLUNDER AND LEAVE TOWN
@BBs for Brains AND THAT IS NOT A COMPLEMENT
Are you registered to vote?
Let me explain how things work in the real world. This ad is not a lie!. When her husband lost his insurance bc Mitt & Bain closed down the steele mill, they lost the better of the two insurances which probably covered major illnesses like cancer, heart attacks, etc. This is very common among two income lower middle class families. The person earning the higher wages will usually carry the more expensive family insurance that covers major illnesses bc if the lower wage earning family member carries it their check would probably deminish so greatly that it would be like working only to pay for health insurance. Mrs. Soptic probably had to become sick around 2001 to die from her disease in 2006 bc of lack of treatment. Undoubtedly she had to be aware of her condition, but the fact that her husband had lost his job and was making far less money as a janitor and probably the fact that they were barely making ends meet, she chose not to burden her family with more bills and hardships they couldn't afford. I guarantee her insurance from a thrift store did not cover cancer treatment and this woman sacrificed her life to keep her family from going broke trying to save her, all while Mitt was out to make money at the expense of families like this.
maybe they should have moved to massuchusetts where they would have been insured with health insurance. obummer.
My congratulations, CNN.
You reported something factual.
It did not reflect well on President Obama.
You may have just taken your first baby steps back to publishing journalism instead of propaganda – if you continue in this vein.
Hint: Would really like to see an honest comparison of the level of "negativity" between the Obama and Romney campaigns.
Obama and lies go together like bacon and eggs, death and taxes, unions and thugs, etc etc. This is nothing new except to the deluded sheep.
kOOL AID PO-PO EXCELLENT CALL
"That is the way I feel," Soptic told me over the phone. "President Obama is a very rich man. I mean, it is obvious if you watch him on television, him and his teleprompter are completely out of touch with the average family, you know middle income people. I don’t think he has any concept as to how when you raise taxes on working people just to give it to union bosses who funded his 2008 campaign how [it] affects families, the community – you know, it affects everyone."
Google Jonathan Lavine and GST steel.
More lies from the sewer-people of the Obama administration.
Turns out Jonathan Lavine, Obama's top 2012 campaign bundler, is currently on the board of Bain Capital, and ran GST steel back in 2001 during the closure of the plant.
Google Jonathan Lavine and GST steel.
Turns out Jonathan Lavine, Obama's top 2012 campaign bundler, is currently on the board of Bain Capital, and ran GST steel back in 2001 during the closure of the plant.
As usual, the right has misrepresented something coming from the left and unfortunately, this time they have people on the left joining them. But the fact is, this ad does not in any way accuse Romney of killing Mr. Soptic's wife, he is accusing Romney of being an integral part of an institutionalized system whereby health insurance companies decide who gets care and who doesn't and who lives and who dies.
And this is the ugly truth that conservatives don't want anybody to know: people die because they have no health insurance.
This ad makes two excellent points: Romney's corporate raiding and looting resulted in thousands of Americans losing their jobs, and thereby losing their health insurance; and two, Romney doesn't care which is perfectly demonstrated by his continued insistance that he will "repeal Obamacare" and keep 30 million Americans from having health insurance.
Conservatives need understand something: You're going to start owning this. The days of you preventing your neighbors from having health insurance, just to walk away when they die as if you had nothing to do with it are over. You're done making this all about "your taxes" while ignoring the fact that 50,000 Americans die every year for a lack of health insurance.
You wanted this fight and Priorities USA is bringing it to your doorstep. You wanted to go down this road, no, you insisted on it. Fine. We're going down this road, but you're not driving anymore, we are.
Romney spokesperson, Andrea Saul on FOX today was all rah-rah for Mitt's Healthcare success in Mass.
And, when responding to the man's claim about Mitt and Bain taking away his livlihood RESULTING in the loss of his family's healthcare in the ad (her words) "That man and his family would have had healthcare if they had lived in Mass.."
So, Romney, it's all right that the rest of the nation doesn't have a healthcare plan?? Even the people you put out of work through your time at Bain who lived in another state? You and Bain walked away with 9 million dollars from the closing of that plant.
Yes, that was the highlight of the day – admitting that Romneycare (aka Obamacare) would have saved that woman's life. Republicans have managed for three years to keep the general public from seeing the human suffering that results from their policies I am glas to see Priorities USA putting that face on the dabate.
Obama is a sore loser. I bet when he loses in November he's going to trash the White House. His whole administration is made up of burnt out college low lives who've never made a dollar in their lives without some sort of litigation. He's the quintessential representative of the lazy and jealous in this country. Pathetic!
Yeah.. he was such a sore loser when he lost to McCain that he marched right up to the White House and took it over! And when he he was unable to save the auto industry, he was so sore he went out and took down Bin Laden! And then when the Supreme Court abolished Obamacare, he was such a sore loser he went out and invented "Romney Hood!" ... sore loser, that Obama...
Tell me then, did he take out Bin Laden with an assault rifle, a bow and arrow, or his bare hands?
What I find completely mind blowing is the fact that more than half the people on here know nothing about politics on either sides, and can only retort with hateful words. You are not credible unless you know what you're talking about, and the majority of you do not. You all are hoping on either sides 'bandwagon' without truly knowing what each candidate stands for and is about. It is either the Obama bandwagon for the majority of you who voted for him in 2008 because that was the 'cool' thing to do, or its the anti-Obama bandwagon full of people who are angry they were tricked into voting for someone they thought would change an ever decreasing economy and didn't. It is people like all of you who are ruining democracy. You are the ones who are electing these people into government, then bashing them for not doing a job that you would have expected. NEWS FLASH. Politicians do not care about the constituents they are supposedly representing. They all are corrupt, they all lie, and they all cheat there way into office and will do anything in their power e.g. slander and ruin a persons reputation; for the sake of THEMSELVES. It has and never will be about you. Figure it out. I do not claim to be thoroughly knowledgeable about everything politics, but what I do know is whatever has been going on over the past four years is not working. Half of you cry from rooftops that it was George Bush who got us into this entire economic mess, NEWSFLASH– George Bush should not hold full responsibility for the recession we were in. Policies implicated by the Clinton administration were the reasons for the Mortgage crisis and the collapse of major banks. Yes Bush did lead us into two wars that the public was in favor of. If he had not done anything about it you so called 'freedom fighters' and liberal idiots would be persistent on your claim that he could have done more. You are never fully satisfied. Enough is never enough with you people. I am proud to call myself and American, I am proud to have had the option of purchasing medical care- not being forced. I am proud to have the opportunity to achieve the American dream. And I know that with the reelection of Obama, I will not have those choices. My liberties and rights will slowly diminish and everything that myself, my family, and my ancestors have worked for would be for nothing. The doers will keep doing and the users will keep receiving. Its disgusting and a disgrace. We are not a socialist economy and we should never be one. If you want a brief history lesson go check out Russia, see how well they are doing and what they went through for almost a century. You'd be surprised. Farewell – Anna Smith
Gee, Anna we were all in favor of going to war? Afghanistan – yes – could have been over fairly quickly as our troops knew where Osama Bin Laden was and asked Bush to okay getting him –Bush was focused on Iraq and pulled our guys out of Afghanistan sending them to Iraq – You have your head on funny and claim we don't have a clue.
NEWS FLASH JUST IN AND ON CNNs FRONTPAGE TODAY******
News of ROMNEY'S CORPORATE TAX COMPLIANCE FRAUDULENT CLAIMS DURING HIS STINT AS MARRIOTT"S CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD'S AUDIT DEPT. WHERE ROMNEY PERSONALLY APPROVED THE FIRMS REPORTING OF FICTIONAL TAX LOSSES EXCEEDING $70 MILLION TO THE IRS
Sorry, but he can't wiggle out of this one and say his accoundants just put a piece of paper in front of him to sign AND THE IRS BROUGHT SUIT, PROVED IT AND WON!!!!!!
I see. Only if one is a Republican in total denial about how Bush policies destroyed our economy, and totally uniformed about the affordable care act and other aspects of our economy and society, does one know anything about politics. All I can say to that is, Farewell – Anna Smith
This blog post simply doesn't make sense. There's nothing in this ad that is false; it is somewhat misleading, but the basic point of the ad is that there are consequences to losing your job. Had he still had his job his wife would have been covered when she was forced to quit her job a few years later, and she would have likely gone to the doctor when she first experienced symptoms instead of years later when she was stage IV. This was all stated in the ad; the only thing that was left out was that she was covered for a few years under a separate policy - but that doesn't change the fact that had he still had his job, she would have been covered during the period prior to her diagnosis, which is the whole point of the ad.
They specifically confused the timelines and tried to make it sound like a cause and effect between the unprofitable company shutting down and this man's wife dying of cancer (over 5 years later and after losing her other, primary insurance). This was a deliberate and despicable misrepresentation.
:-) Politifact called Obamacare allowing benefits to illegal immigrants as all false. WRONG! I work in a hospital in California and Obamacare is now in effect and we do provide Medical which gets some of it's money from the Fed to illegal immigrants. They actually can get put on a fast track to get Medical faster than legal citizens can.
Don't be a sheep and believe something just because it puts "fact" in their name and says they are non-partisan. I don't think anyone is truely non-partisan other than someone not paying attention.
ONLY ONE ITEM NEEDS TO BE SHOWN.......MITTS TAX RETURNS...................if he is ok....HE WILL WIN..............if not,..the gop has FAILED YET AGAIN to nominate a reasonable person and a TRUE AMERICAN that supports in deed and word the CONSTITUTION of the USA.
All I know is that I'm tired of the hatred and loathing that spews from nearly every republican politician's mouth! It began last fall when they spent their time castigating each other, and then when Romney became the "anointed one", they switched to skewering President Obama! In reality, the President and the Democrats showed great restraint for longer than they should have by not responding, but eventually the lies and innuendos had to be answered. The republican party of the past was both a respected and respectful party, however, the likes of the tea party, the newest members of congress (and a few of the older ones that conjure up the word "senile"!) have turned it into one of scorn, disdain, and disrespect. After spending many years as a republican, I decided to vote for Barack Obama in 2008, and couldn't be happier. When voting for President, I vote for "the MAN", and he is much more of a man than any of the republicans that ran for the title of republican presidential nominee, and particularly the self-absorbed Mitt Romney.
LOL... since when have the dems shown restraint? Most of the hatred being spewed is from the left. At least on the CNN comment boards.
No one is more self-absorbed than Obama.
He can't take any criticism. He thinks he has the right to unilaterally change our laws by executive orders.
He thinks the Supreme Court has no right to do its job and review the Constitutionality of our laws.
And he does not want States to help the Federal Government enforce its own laws when he disagrees with them.
Rather than lead the country and try to get Congress to compromise, when Obama had his super-majority for 2 years he rammed any legislation he wanted down the throats of Congress, not only not listening to the other side and making a few compromises, but showing them great disrespect by not allowing the Republicans so much as the opportunity to read the health care bill before it was passed. You reap what you sow.
Obama is arrogant, self-absorbed, more concerned about his own power than the Constitution, and a dirty Chicago politician. His complete lack of experience and socialist agenda is killing this country.
All campaigns stretch the truth. One needs to look at the big picture in determining who would be the best president.
this is more than a stretch of the truth, considering the obama campaign has used this same joe soptic in their ads, it is illegal for super pacs to work with the candidates campaign and there are strange connections here to say the least.
His job may not have provided insurance but his wife was eligible to continue her coverage under the cobra act, as no doubt he was able to do as well but theywould have had to pay for it, as they would have had to pay the entire premium it would have been expensive, but it was available as was private insurance. THEY CHOSE TO NOT SPEND THE MONEY ON HEALTH INSURANCE.
I know plenty of people who have medical coverage and still die. I mean really, can this President stoop any lower? I'm sure he can and will.
Cynthia L, I guess that you are still under O'Bummer's hynotic spell. If you really are serious about helping this country get back to the greatness that is the goal that others wish to aspire; please read about O'Bama's hidden agenda in D'souza's book 'The Roots of O'Bama's Rage' (2010). It explains how he came to his socialists beliefs through his mother's accounts of his father's (O'Bama Sr.'s) life and other socialist's ideals and beliefs. Barrack Jr. is not a fan of the colonialism that our country was founded upon. Some topics the author discusses are emerging now- immigration, welfare, healthcare to name a few.
To be fair I have also read negative views about about Romney and his agenda/ideas. Since the O'Bama team only does negatives on Romney and nothing positive on O'Bama's behalf on what he has done and why he should be re-elected to four more years in Washington; is his real hidden agenda to move back to Chicago?
BIGGER NEWS STILL!!!!!! BREAKING NEWS!!!! CNN FRONTPAGE TODAY REPORTING *****
MITT ROMNEY WAS FOUND PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR APPROVING MARRIOTT'S REPORTING OF FICTIONAL TAX LOSSES EXCEEDING $70 MILLION TO THE IRS WHO WON A CASE AGAINST HIM ON CORPORATE TAX COMPLIANCE FRAUDLENT CLAIMS.
Carol you can stick your colonialism up your tookey – JUST LIKE WE SAID TO THE BRITISH – BECOMING THE UNITED STAES OF AMERICA!!
Just be mighty glad come next January the 20th once this Race-baiting P.O.S. Barack ( If I had a son ) Obama be GONE for GOOD! All he seems too know is down and dirty Chicago Style Politics nothing but Out-Right Lie's Half-Truths and Deception taken to a whole new level period!!!!
In the clip, you edit out the line, "I don't know how long she was sick and I think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew that we couldn't afford the insurance." With the line in tact, the add and your time line seem to be in better agreement. Not that the add is completely accurate, or that you don't have a point, but this kind of selective editing to apparently fit your story undermines your credibility.
The liberal mantra NEVER TELL THE TRUTH WHEN A LIE WILL DO
Interesting that the charge from Joe Soptic is that Mitt Romney doesn't care that Joe Soptic lost his job, his healthcare, his pension, and his wife; and that, instead, Mitt Romney only cares that he made $50 million off the deal as a profiteer.
Is CNN saying that Mitt DOES care?
Then let him come out publicly and SAY SO.
Otherwise, I'd challenge CNN to prove that Joe Soptic isn't telling the truth and nothing but the truth about Mitt Romney caring.
What about the thousands of jobs and health care lost that had absolutely nothin to do with Romney's affiliations? Why aren't they talking about that?
Listening to Soptic's "missrepresentations" about the insurance coverage circumstances surrounding his wife's passing reminds me of the outright "distortions" (to put it mildly) that Pres Obama resorted to in describing the situation with respect to his mother dying of cancer years ago. So nothing really has changed. The outright falsehoods linger.
There's something ironic about accusing someone of being dishonest, then bringing in party line rhetoric out of nowhere that applies a negative spin on the unemployment rate. By their logic you'd think they voted for Obama in 2008 because Bush put unemployment over 8%.
Out of all the campaigns through the years this one is really becoming more and more like two little kids name calling on the playground, it's getting old. Forget about the other candidate focus on why we should feel comfortable with either of these men in the white house! Tell us what you can do the other cannot!
1). plant closed MULTIPLE yrs. AFTER ROMNEY left Bain.
2). you can send the raw product to make steel to China and have
it shipped back to USA CHEAPER that it can be made here in US....
why? steel workers unionized themselves out of jobs...
3). the spouse mentioned had her OWN health coverage under HER job
at a printing co.
4). let's get BACK to #1 issue on American's minds for this election...
(as per James Carville, Democratic strategist)...."It's the
"Son of Boss" marriotts most abusive tax shelter while romney was on the audit board. Marriott had to pay back billions to the IRS
This is what romneys business career is revealing about his character, business conduct and judgment
Does anyone even know anyone else who, having lost their spouse, child, parent or friend to cancer, blames anyone for it? No one who loses a spouse to cancer would blame that on someone else. I've never even heard of this. This is a new low for the Obama superpac. Imagine getting political mileage off of cancer victims and their families. In a word-"Desperate". If Obama, and his financiers, really felt he had it made would they really need to stoop so low? No.
In reality ,our country has a cancer and that cancer is crackhead obama and his super corrupt administration.That's why freeloading obama needs to be removed before that cancer destroys our country completely.
In fact the Republican party is to blame for many more deaths than this one due to their continued obstruction to the creation of a decent and moral healthcare system in this country. The mere fact that you can lose your healthcare if you lose your job is a sad reflection of our society.
This political crap is just that !!! I was laid off in the 80s and 90s due to companies restructuring or just plain going down. A mother with 4 kids on unemployment is not pretty but I knew enough to pay the COBRA insurance after the rent. We had little and sometimes no electric in winter , I cooked on a kerosene heater which warmed the house but my Kids had Medical insurance. Could I affod it no !!! but its a necessity. A nurse I got new jobs fortunately a little more income and supplimented by selling Christmas around the world and Avon in addition to my full time work . What ever makes it work. People who wine like that man who is obviously guilty over his wifes death dont get simpathy from me . If you want a job you can do something anything / My kids grew up went to college and worked thru it all. Americans need to stop trying to blame other s for thier misfortunes. This man wants to blame Romney ?? For what doing his job?? Maybe this man should have insisted his wife go to a doctor while she had insurance at her job and paid Cobra after she lost her job. He obviously did not pay Cobra for his insurance.. Pay what is necessary and skip the beer and cigaretts and other non esentials .
Notice that liberals must always rely on emotion and feeling to get people to agree with them... because if they try to use logic, they are doomed. They use anecdotal stories about people losing jobs, health insurance, etc. because if you were to look at the issue at large, people won't agree with them.
Of course, this stunt is Chicago politics at its finest. Welcome to the Obama 2012 campaign... where no lie is too untrue to be told, and no truth to behold.
Obama the Divider is showing once again that he is the least post-partisan president in a long, long time.
Yeah. It is so illogical pointing out the FACT that if Romney and the other GOP goons repeal the ACA, 50,000 people like Joe Soptic's wife will die next year because multi-millionaire Mitt Romney didn't want them to have health insurance. The truth is just so... so... ILLOGICAL!
It is really scary seeing what happens to people who stare at Fox News 24/7 except when they are posting uniformed gibberish on comment boards.
America !!! You've got a choice between a "community organizer" with no economic experience whatsoever and who has been a dismal failure in everything he did in the last 4 yrs , and the other candidate is Romney a highly successful businessman, who has a good record in business and Governor .. that will .Bring the CAPITALIST BACK IN OUR GOVERNMENT !!!
The 'community organizer' wants to balloon government on all fronts, pile up massive defcits, and raise taxes, to keep funding the Entitlement program and the Big government and regulations against The businessman..who wants to shrink government, reduce debt, and lower taxes for everyone., thus would entice business to invest in an atmosphere that they can grow and prosper, it has worked and we propsered for over 100 yrs...
Maybe if you are still undecided at this point, you shouldn't be voting because the differences are fundamental and stark...
Wow... does uninformed gibberish run in your family or are the first generation?
OBAMA is hiding college record because he does not want to show his Islamic funding...and hios Socialist agenda..
Harry Reid's Mitt Romney Tax Source A Republican, Says Top Aide (UPDATE) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/harry-reid-mitt-romney-tax-returns_n_1762255.html
This issue will remain #1 until Mitt releases his tax returns or until election day, whichever comes first.
But hey... good luck pushing your little conspiracy theory around.
Oddly tonight Fox ran a newly released audio of a campaign conference call With this fellow on it from a few months ago. It has this fellow and one of the Campaign folks directly on the Obama Campaign talking about this exact story – his loosing his wife. Wondering how the Obama campaign folks can't know anything about it whe they had a conference call specifically on it?
There is even more that has not been mentioned and I think that all liberals who still believe in the Obama liar should do some investigating for themselves. Bain Capitol bought what became GST Steel in 1993 and Romney left Bain in 1999.....2 years before GST Steel went belly up. Local 13 of the United Steelworkers of America went on strike in April 1997 and won MAJOR concessions by June 1997. In 2000, GST lost $25 million and filed for bankruptcy in Feb. 2001. Cheap foreign steel and a very greedy (and ignorant) USWA forced GST out of business, not Bain Capitol. Oh, and for the coup de gras, the person at Bain Capitol who was responsible for overseeing GST and Bain as a whole during this time is none other that Obama's largest corporate bundler and major financier, Bain Capitol Managing Director, Jonathan Lavine. Lavine has raised over $100,000 to $200,000 just this year for the Obama Victory Fund and campaign, and has been associated with fund raising for Obama since his senatorial days. The Romney accusation and ad is a COMPLETE LIE and so very typical of a man who has rarely ever told the truth!! Hope that these FACTS don't taint the taste of your Kool-Aid too much.
So are you saying that under the management of Bain, GST Steel was run into the ground? How much profit did Bain take out of the business before it went under?
And Mitt's own aide admits that if Mrs. Soptic had Romneycare (aka Obamacare), she might well have received the care she needed and survived. So... you just keep pushing your little investigation around. She died, and had Obamacare been in effect, she would have been covered and her chance for survival would have been much much higher. But you go push your little date theory around to some uninsured people, better yet, to some uninsured people with cancer and see what kind of feedback you get.
This commercial is in unbelievably poor taste, and is a despicable misrepresentation of facts.
This man's company was closed because it could not be saved, pure and simple.
It was on the rocks before Bain got involved, and it was one company that they could not turn around.
But they have turned around many others.
When companies go down, people lose jobs. Sad, but true.
But this woman had her own insurance for years after this.
And her husband had 5 years to get off his butt and find another job at a solvent company,
in which case he would also have had another insurance policy by the time she lost hers.
Exactly how is Bain, let alone Romney, responsible for her losing her own health care insurance 5 years after
her husband lost his job because his company went bankrupt? They're not! Even if you completely disagree
with him as a candidate, this commercial is a horrible attempt at a smear which is far beneath the ethics I would expect of a small town dog catcher's campaign, let alone a President's campaign.
It's a really sad day for America when we have any candidate for any office stooping to these kind of campaign tactics.
Obama promised hope, change, and a new spirit of cooperation that would transcend parties and bring Americans together.
What we got instead was the most polarized government in our history, some of the most low-down and dirty political back-stabbing ever, and a country full of people who think we are headed in the wrong direction. Because we are.
I may have bought into Obama's bull the first time, because he sounded so sincere. But not again.
Actions speak louder than words. Obama has great words, and lousy actions.
CNN are such pro-Republican wimps. Even Romney's own Spokesperson admits the woman would have lived longer if she had healthcare such as under Romneycare/Obamacare.
I don't suppose the people targeted by this commercial (idiots) realize that the only alternative
to closing down an unprofitable company that could not be saved is to lose money, reducing
the capital available to support the other companies that Bain invested in, and causing a
potential chain reaction of companies going down.
Liberalism = the science of pretending there are no mathematical laws.
There is no money laying around to support companies that cannot make it on their own forever.
This country cannot borrow infinite amounts of money without having it seriously negatively impact our economy, as more and more of our wealth is just going to pay off the interest.
If we keep this up much longer, our debt rating will be downgraded yet again – making it more expensive to borrow.
If we steal the money out of our social security funds to pay for other government entitlement programs,
there will be nothing left for the people who have paid into this system their entire lives by the time they retire.
If we keep flooding the market with printed money, when this never-ending recession finally ends, the inflation will kill us.
Its really fun and reassuring to think that there is always enough money for everything.
But after you get out of high school or college and get a job for a few weeks and start paying bills,
for many people economic reality sets in. For some, this intellectual maturation process apparently
THIS IS WHAT LIBERALS DO.–SLANDER
They know how dumb the american people can be and how the media wont call them on their wicked accusations.
Inaccurate???..R U kidding me? They basically called Romney a murderer. Romney gives more to charity than the entire D party and he;s a tax cheat now too?
The party of the poor? Biden gave like 9 bucks to charity. Obama .0001% while building a mansion. Gore 137 bucks. Romney gives 21 million and he's a tax cheat?
This is the wickedness you put into office. A man whose mentor thinks the US created Aids to kill black people and had the 137th million best resume in the USA. Why, because he has a great smile? Put Brad Pitt in there next.
This guy guaranteed 4m jobs and lost millions instead. If this guy coached your baseball team would he be fired? Yet U let him run the world?
So Romney is a cheat ,a murderer, and hates women. Those accusation alone should tell you what you elected. Filthy vile liars who think you're stupid
Obama care means that the old should not suffer and end life ASAP. That is what Obama accomplished in his term.
Nothing good will ever happen with Obama in office.
CNN is all gay and jew. Welcome to the industry.
Fuck moderation, I have proxies and other ids
Why is CNN not the real truth and positioned to represent both sides fairly?
What do you guys want? all of you, I mean every last one on this board, set back and watched America's elected congress, mainly the republican party of loom and doom, plot to overthrow Barack's presidency with lies and propaganda as they turned their backs on America. We watched congress bail out of the Affordable Health Care Act before it hit the ground for discussion. We witness a disregard and disrespect for this president never seen in american history. This last 3.5 years was an epic treason by this republican congress unparalleled. Chaos, sabotaged and unfounded blame. An we, the so called people, just set back and watched it happen, no, we let it happen. Remember the debt ceiling debacle? Say what you want about this president, but you cannot say that he is weak and lack character. What he had to put up with and still govern ,with no help from you people, take a whole lot of leadership. That's right Barack, "Do not go gentle into that good night", Fright fire with fire do not let them swift boat you. When you get them down, kick em and then kick em again and again.
I'd take an experienced governor as president over a community organizer turned junior senator any day. Want to target the idea of wealthy, start targeting all the sports stars, rock stars, oh and rest of DC politicians (dems and repubs) that have made a boat load of money. Hypocrisy is a live and well. Not just in those we resent, but in those who post.
Please help us save these jobs.
Anything you can do is welcomed.
"Team Obama denies knowing story of man in its TV ad" (laid off, Baine/Romney to blaime)
When I read the "real" story, my initial reaction was that this "pro-Obama PAC" is actually a "pro-Romney PAC" bent on sabotaging the Obama campaign. Obama does not sanction this ad with "I approved this ad", but Romney will not accept the statement by Obama that he did not know about this ad. I can only take
Obama's word on this, as I have no proof otherwise. It is not as the situation when Romney claimed he hadn't seen an attack ad against Gingrich (Spanish-language ads that say Newt called Spanish “the language of the ghetto.”): At the end of the ad, Romney said, in Spanish, "I am Mitt Romney. I am running for president, and I approve this message". or
"The blind trust is an age-old ruse" (1992); don't even know where offshore accounts are... because they are "managed in a blind trust." (2012).
Claimed Romneycare was never intended to be a model for a national plan: In 2007, Romney said in a Baltimore speech that he hoped Romneycare would be a "model for the nation." Gov. Mitt Romney signed a bill requiring all Massachusetts residents to purchase health insurance. He’s now a critic of his own biggest achievement.
My list is very long and may become infinite.
Right out of the Karl Rove play book. Thanks repubs, more coming your way
What more lies are coming out of this administration, what have they not lied about? You blame Rove, good grief, can't deny if there is proof, but you try by accusations and misstatements and hope the press will cover for you.
How could anyone in their right mind believe Romney is responsible for this women's death. It just goes to show that Obama can not run on his pathetic record. Obama is so incompetant that he makes both Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush look like rock stars. People who vote for Obama get what they deserve. I will be fine either way since I am a 39 year old millionare that does not believe in hand outs, and has worked for what I have. Oh yeah! I guess "I did build that".
Plain and simple, THEY LIED, and got called on it, so what else are they lying about and the press covers for them?
Reid lies, shows the finger to the American public and NOONE calls him on it, Reid has offshore accounts with money made supporting prostitution, no one calls him on that, Pelosi makes sure her husband gets all the benefits from her being able to yea or nea legislation to benefit him, no one calls her on that. David Plouffe, used to be senior advisor to the WH now head of Priorities USA, but has no connection to the WH, and everyone beliefs THAT.
Must every company that ever existed continue to exist into eternity? Of course not. Companies fail for a variety of reasons. Private equity exists to try to turn around failing companies; in exchange for risking their capital, investors require a profit. Sometimes private equity firms succeed and sometimes they fail. In this case, Bain could only keep the company going a short while longer before it ultimately failed. The company would have failed long before so, if nothing else, Bain's efforts (and the capital of its investors) allowed the employees to work several years more than if nobody came in to try to save it.
I don't like the ad at all.....but I still plan on voting for Obama. This is about the same as the Swift Boat ads during Kerry's run for office. If not factually flawed (which this ad seems to be), they both are, at a minimum, misleading. What I do like is the fact that one of Romney's aides said that the entire story wouldn't matter if the gentleman and his wife had been covered under Massachusett's health plan. Now that is funny.
So the Obama Campaign first introduced the Media to Soptic and his cancer story in May, and now denies they know anything about Mr Soptics lies..
"Obama camp denies knowledge of cancer tale it told in May"
"I don't know the facts about when Mr. Soptic's wife got sick, or the facts about his health insurance," deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter told CNN on Wednesday."
"But there's a problem. As Politico first reported, Soptic told essentially the same story in a May 14, 2012, conference call hosted by the Obama campaign."
@DEcember 2012 & Cynthia L.
You both need to quit dumping your hate out here on everyone else – if you're dissatisfied with your personal life, for whatever reason, please keep it to yourself. All you two do is spew hate, often times yelling it (especially you, December – but I’m beginning to think you're mentally impaired and/or unbalanced anyway).
Cyntia, please do a little more objective research & reading, stop swallowing what you want to hear – seek out different opinions & perspectives so that you can be more informed & well rounded in your own personal opinions. The complete lack of knowledge of the real issues displayed on this board is unbelievable – it's all about people pitching their personal beliefs, and spouting hateful language when others don't agree with it.
Lighten up – and yes, Obama has lied through his teeth: "Hope & Change" – he literally went on the record and said his campaign would never use personal attack ads in 2008, now he's doing just that. Solyndra? ICE? Fast & Furious? GSA?
C'mon........I don't really care about politics anymore, it's all media crap anyway, but I do know it's time for a change. Obama is running this country into the ground.
@ Sick of Politics -You like licking the boots of ignorance. Sorry, I don't go that route.
Brianna Keilar has contradicted her own contention. She says " ...he officially remained CEO until 2002. Bain Capital shut down GST Steel in 2001, costing Soptic his job. If you are the CEO and sole shareholder, you are responsible for decisions made by the company. This is bonehead Business 101. There is no reasonable way that Bain would have shut down this company without Romney's say so. Romney's decisions caused this man's loss of medical insurance and anything else that results from that are also, at least in part, Romney's responsibillity. End of story.
Companies are bought and sold every day...I have worked for many that have been sold...but I don't go back 5 years later and say the CEO of the company caused me to not have heatthcare. I pay over a $1000 a month for mine and my husband's insurance now...because his company was sold three years ago and we lost healthcare thru his company...Joe should have gotten off his ass and gotten another job to pay for his own healthcare...when he was paying for his corvette!!!
So what if the dates are spread apart. Republicans constantly LIE saying everyone already has healthcare thru emergency rooms. That's a LIE! No one can go get MRIs, CT scans & other tests at an emergency rooms on a whim. Only when someone is dying will they POSSIBLY get treated.
Because the evil GOP stopped healthcare in 1994 my brother who had just been honorably discharged out of the Air Force for about two years was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer & died. Conservatives don't care. They have no souls. All they think about are their godly CEOs! They worship unregulated capitalism and they couldn't care less about human beings.
Conservatives claim they're Christians but they essentially murdered my little brother. But they don't give a damn about people or the carnage they cause to others. They despise human beings. The GOP and mindless conservatives MURDERED my brother who worked harder than ALL of them. Conservative Christians are mentally diseased and morally bankrupt. They are supposed to be their brother's keepers, but like Cain told God in Genesis that he wasn't his brother's keeper. Conservative christians are the most evil creatures on Earth. They claim they're Christians but they hate all of Jesus' teachings and deeds. If Jesus was pulled off the cross before he died conservative Christians would all stand around him holding him in contempt for not having insurance and they would laugh as he laid bleeding to death and when he died they would say he deserved it and he should have been more personally responsible. They'd go on to condemn him for those he associated with, his clothes and his liberal beliefs in helping those in need.
I've never witnessed a more evil group of creatures in my life like conservative Christians. They are worse than Al Qaeda. At least the foreign terrorists 'only' killed 3,000 people on 9/11, but conservative christians murder 45,000 humans every year. To be able to justify that many deaths conservative Christians have to be sociopaths and psychopaths. They commit mass murders every day. They don't do it with assault weapons but they do kill others because of their hatred, selfishness, racism and soullessness. And they kill with their votes. There's not an ounce of empathy or compassion in all conservative Christians ccombined.
So yes, this ad is representative of 45,000 human beings every year. If we had another terrorist attack and 45,000 people were killed conservative christians would be frothing at their mouths to go to war and spend another four trillion dollars or more and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings as they did in Iraq when Bush and conservative christians LIED to go to war.
If you are a conservative christian you are responsible for the deaths of all the people I mentioned. They all have mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, wives, girlfriends, children and babies that will never know their mother or father. I wish one conservative christian could somehow find the ability to live in another person's heart for even just a flickering moment, but they are unable to. Psychopaths and sociopaths and people who listen to right wing talk radio and Fox hate all day will never acquire empathy or compassion for any other human being.
It's sad our country is being destroyed by people who pray to the predators like insurance companies and the sociopaths who profit off of every death. And conservative christians are responsible for this moral decline.
I'm sorry to hear about your little brother. You are incorrect that conservatives have no soul. We actually do and if any of us knew that your brother needed help, we would be the first to be at your side and his side helping him through. We would take money from our own pocket if he could not pay his bill. We would comfort your family while doing it. Liberals only want to take the money from our pocket stating it's for a good cause and then line their own pockets or their buddies. Sorry, but I will not vote for anyone that steals from my pocket. I gladly give, but I do not appreciate taking!
You do realize that Mr. Soptic owns a corvette and is part of a corvette club? How much did that cost him? I would have sold my vehicle to make sure my family was taken care of.
Conservatives care about choice – which is freedom of choice. Forced choice is not longer a choice and little by little you will have no rights and no freedom. This is what you pass on to your children. Again, I am very sorry for your loss!
Yes, but you could not be there. You could not know to be there. That is why programs need to be in place to help. I don't argue that your heart is in the right place, but it cannot work if it is just a matter of freely giving. And I also disagree that liberals take the money and line their pockets. Perhaps some do, but not more and I suspect much less than conservative CEO's and the like.
I would agree with you if the statement was Republican and/or Democrat CEO's. Or, maybe we shouldn't blanket them all together. But, once they get into the establishment – it seems dirty tricks are played and the taxpayer pays for it. We need honest people in government. Unfortunately, those honest people happen to not have enough money to even run. So I think we are screwed!
It is NOT true that conservative Christians would have been there for my brother. They WEREN'T there and they fought against healthcare in 94 dooming hundreds of thousands to death. Conservative christians saying they would take money out to help are liars. They would find a way to condemn anyone who was sick. Charity to provide healthcare is idiotic. Just like the highway system and other great works by the government (the collective people called Americans) the only way to provide national healthcare us thru the government. Conservatives attack government mindlessly but Medicare overhead is only 3-4%. Private insurance companies have overheads ranging between 30 & 40%. Do conservatives really believe 40 is smaller than 4??? I know they're mentally challenged but no one us that dumb. But they are so filled with propaganda they are unable to think.
Go live in a socialist country then. This is what you are asking our country to be. The government should not control the states or the people. UGH idiot!
Go live in Somalia dolt! There's no government there, lots of automatic weapons, record women raped yearly, and their biggest business is piracy. It's a libertarian paradise. I wish I could find one conservative how hasn't blown his brains out by listening to RW radio & Faux. Are there any intelligent, unbrainwashed conservatives??? Are they all stupid and unable to even think for themselves? It's amazing how they spew one talking point after another verbatim from the mouths of cowardly radio hosts like Limbaugh, Beck, Gannity, Levin, and the rest of the cowardly scum who ran from serving in my country's military as I dud with honor. Why do conservatives love liars, hate, racism and mindless rage?
Good questions kmlmbs. It's very sad really. If President Obama were a Republican, some of these same people who are condemning him as the worst of the worst, would be singing his praises loudly and often.
Oh and by the way about you stating that Conservative christians chose to go to war led by Bush. The President does not have the power to go to war, he must get that permission from Congress. Democrats were in charge of congress. Who then enabled the war? I want our men and women back. Our leaders are being slaughtered by Afghan heads as we speak. Asked to come to dinner and ambushed. Where is the outrage for this? Bring them home and tell Afghan to go to where the sun doesn't shine!
Yes, but who lied to congress stating there were weapons of mass destruction? Without that, they never would have agreed.
Mitt praise Israel's healthy citizens, THEY HAVE a nationalized heathcare system with a PERSONAL MANDATE.
He praised their successes and their beautiful cities, their work-ethic.
Israel just passed a law that their ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS must serve and be drafted like every other citizen of Israel. They are sick of these people who openly hate the Israeli gov't, thinking the rest of the jews aren't 'pure' enough, refused to work and demand welfare. The thing that strikes me are the Evangelicals like John Hagee who constantly raise money for this particular sect of "Poor Jews' so they may have food and HEALTHCARE and shelter.
What those 'poor jews' get is distain from their own country and 'WELFARE GIVING' Evangelicals are HAPPY to give them but, turn their own noses down at fellow Americans who are down on their luck, often through no fault of their own. The regular Israeli is tough and willing to WORK to advance their country. Shouldn't all Americans feel the same about theirs?
As Gobsmacked says, Bush and Cheney lied to Congress. They did so in order to gain approval for their private money-making war, originally-named O.I.L (Operation Iraqi Liberation) until they realized how nakedly obvious that was. Remember how Dick Cheney declared "I have no doubt Iraq has weapons of mass destruction." The man used the phrase "no doubt" which means he either lied or was dementia-level incompetent. This dastardly duo even outed an undercover CIA operative in order to have their war. So to your question "cmm" as to who enabled the Iraq war: the answer is that it was enabled by the right-wing and their propagandists. Most of us fell for it and some of us didn't. But let's not mince words. The most accurate and descriptive way to name what happened is this: the Bush administration orchestrated an illegal war for financial gain.
I think Romney should disavow HIS campaign ad that shows Obama saying, "If we talk about the economy, we'll lose", when in fact it was John McCain who said it, and Obama was just repeating it. That is a big misrepresentation of facts as well.
This is almost as ridiculous as someone accusing Obama of having a fake birth certific- oh wait, that's exactly what the republicans did and still do. Lie for a lie? lol. I can't believe the uproar over this when the repubs pull the same crap.
Look, it's very simple. Our country is now standing on the precipice between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea. You figure out which is which. As far as I'm concerned I can't stand any of the options we've been given. Christians have no business supporting any of these idiots for President. If you want to understand why we're having all these problems as a nation, you need only look to our relationship with God Almighty. We've turned our backs on Him, and He's simply allowing us to reap the rewards of our decisions–natural consequences of our actions. The Department of Homeland Security has just broken up a "baby-eating ring" and over half the counties in the U.S. have been declared disaster areas due to crop failure and drought. WAKE UP!
While CNN claims that the Soptic ad is inaccurate, the facts upon which it bases its claim state otherwise.
Soptic lost his job as a steelworker and so lost his insurance. The job he found to replace it was that of a janitor, with no insurance. His wife's job at a thrift store provided primary coverage, and his insurance provided secondary coverage. That is the key to the issue.
Primary health insurance coverage does not cover everything. Cancer and other major medical treatments usually are excluded. Think for a minute about the fact that this was a "thrift store" and ask yourself how much health insurance it could afford for its employees.
Soptic clearly said, "I don’t know how long she was sick and I think maybe she didn’t say anything because she knew we couldn’t afford the insurance."
Translation: After Soptic lost his job and the "secondary coverage" which would have covered her illness, he was unable to replace that insurance. Most people who know that they don't have insurance coverage learn to suffer in silence.
There was nothing false or misleading about the commercial. Factually, it was far more complete than most campaign commercials offered by either side. The only means of telling every fact would be to do an infomercial.
CNN's "investigative" talents have been questionable on occasion in the past. This, however, was just downright careless and inadequate.
Well said. Thank you.
There seems to be a misreading of this ad by CNN and many of the posters here.
Soptic did not say that his wife died shortly after he lost his job. He said that he suspects that his wife became ill but said nothing about it because they could not afford the insurance to cover it.
His wife died years later just days after being diagnosed with cancer. No cancer grows that quickly: therefore, she had been ill with it growing in her for quite a while, possibly several years.
Had his wife not feared to report her illness because of lack of insurance, she most likely would have been diagnosed earlier, very possibly in time to save her.
None of this is dead certain, of course. But the chain of events does support a good case that had Soptic not lost his job, his wife might still be alive.
I'm shocked at the nasty invective of so many of the posts here, as well as the misrepresentation of the actual content of the ad.
Just for the record, I'm not an Obama supporter. I'd liike to see both ruling class parties unseated by a Labor Party in 2016.
I disagree that the ad in question is not accurate. I would agree that there is more to the story that is being told in the ad. This ad is about emotion and perspective. Strictly speaking nothing in here is false. The problem is that the whole truth isn't in here.
A man has a steel mill job for 30 years and the benefits includes health insurance, which he covers both his wife (secondarily) and himself. He loses that job. His wife has a job at a thrift store, which provides her primary health insurance coverage. She leaves that position due to an injured rotator cuff and loses her health care. Now the family is not covered at all. Health care decisions are being made based on the family's economic situations. Things like preventative care are set aside because the family can no longer afford it. Suddenly the wife is too sick to ignore and they take her to the hospital and she dies. But if Mr. Soptik was still working at the steel mill and still had health insurance would this situation have occured. We don't know. But this guy clearly feels like it would have made a difference. Who is CNN to argue? This is where CNN really fall down in talking about the econmic problems faced by the middle class
Just to let you know there was five years between him losing his job...and his wife dying..one has nothing to do with his wife dying. The ad suggests that he lost his job one day, he lost his heathcare the next and she died the next day....(NOT 5 years later)...it has nothing to do with Mitt Romney...The company was almost bankrupt prior to the company being sold to Bain Capitol.
Joe Sopkic is alive and well and I saw him yesterday (8/19/2012) showing off his red covette yesterday at the KCCA Corvette show in Olathe, KS ...maybe he bought the new car from what he earned his lying in the Obama ad..
Betty, so what that is was five years later. Do you think cancer kills the same way a car accident does? One minute you are fine and the next minute you're dead?! You can deny the connection all you want but it stays. If the man had not lost his insurance coverage his wife would have had a better shot at survival. That is a fact.
What work did Mitt and his band of corporate vultures do that "earned" them so much money from a dying company? And why won't Mitt do what every other politician since his father's time has done: Show us the tax returns. What is he hiding?
Why doesn't your guy show us the college transcripts? What's he hiding?
I can hardly believe you are serious about college transcripts. I think Republicans have lost their minds, the elected officials and all those that have elected them.
@cmm No President has ever shown their college records. Records are protected by law since 1976. Get over it.
Tax returns are protected too! 2 years are all that is required, and that is what has been provided – so I say you Cynthia need to get over it.
I've heard court sealed divorce decrees are also protected. Guess our Chicago thug didn't care about that! That is exactly what he is too – a thug. I don't understand why we can't get a decent President! Don't even bother responding Cynthia, he will go down as the worst President.
@cmm – Presidents past have shown the American people their returns because TAXES which everybody pays EXCEPT THOSE WHO CHEAT are of high interest among the majority of taxpayers. He is hiding. He will LOSE BECAUSE OF IT just like McCain lost because of it (that and him picking an insufferable air-head for his V.P.). The precident for showing tax returns has been followed for decades and decades. With Mitt's dad providing 12 years of his.
Fine – continue with this insufferable talking point. It means nothing to the American people. I don't care less what the previous 12 years of Mitt's taxes say. Mitt Romney released his 2010 tax returns and an estimate for 2011 showing he is likely to pay $6.2 million on income of $42.5 million over the two-year period. This income is not earned income which is taxed at a different rate. Why would anyone be pissed that he is paying millions in taxes?
Why not check out Obama's taxes when he was a Senator in Illinois? He actually did cheat on his taxes. He neglected to state a stipend of $8000 as income and just completely ignored it. That is cheating on taxes.
Now to answer your air head for a VP pick? The man is brilliant and he just might get our country out of the gutter with a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifices. Airhead? You can't even spell President! We are going to have a lot of hard choices to make for our children s' future. Sounds as if you would prefer to keep receiving the free Obama stash than to actually save this country from the brink of bankruptcy! I do hope your choice loses.....
@cmm Mitt has not release even 2 years of returns. The only one he has released has raised many eyebrows. For instance how his tax-free IRA has a balance of $100 Million when the deposit limit yearly is $6,000. That is just one example. Mitt won't show you his second return because he is stalling, hoping he can become President first and then just blow you off. NOBODY TRUSTS THE GUY to even come clean with the second return. HE WILL LOSE BECAUSE OF IT.
Obama lies, teleprompters, or misstates...Remember 57 states? From Obama's Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds...
Obama is Marxist/Muslim bowing/anti-American and anti-Christian and an amateur. A community organizer is not qualified to be president and the spending spree Obamas need to be voted OUT!
Romney is pro – America. We created our business NOT Obama's welfare Federal Marxist European Government!
When I read comments like yours Linda, I scratch my head. You sound deranged.
Linda, that's quite a psychotic rant you got going on there. But if you can ever pull your head out of Rush Limbaugh's ass long enough, go compare President Obama's record to Bush's; on foreign policy, on the economy, on domestic policy, the President runs circles around his GOP predecessor.
Yeah, right! He has allowed the Muslim Brotherhood to take over Middle East countries with more to come. That should worry you tremendously. But, hey it's your decision to vote for him. Maybe you should really look to see what his real agenda is. Otherwise, vote away! It's your right...
@cmm – Our President has nothing to do with other countries elections. If they voted them in, it's their choice. Get some smarts.
cmm, I didn't think it was possible to be more ignorant than Linda and I was right, but you come in a very close 2nd. I worried about that little draft-dodging war criminal Bush failing to pursue Bin Laden. I am not worried about the President who took down Bin laden and more top Al Qaeda leaders than did the incompetent Republicans who held the White House for 8 friggin years before Obama and couldn't get Bin Laden, invaded the wrong country, and crashed the US economy and caused a global economic recession. God you people are backward. I swear, I didn't think people could be as bigoted and stupid as what the GOP has become. You'all really should take your unpatriotic little birther asses to Somalia. You won't have to pay taxes, won't have any government standing in your way, and can carry guns and shoot at people for as long as you're able. Losers.
Actually errol44, you seem to be the ignorant one. Who said I appreciated Bush? Didn't even vote for him and I am neither registered Democrat nor Republic so assuming I am with the GOP is ignorant in itself. I also do not believe that another 4 years for the Community organizer will do our country any good. He absolutely has no idea how to run this country. Clinton was actually a pretty decent President as was Reagan. Other than that, they all rot.
Obama thinks building bridges and roads will put our country back to prosperity, he is seriously mistaken. Obamas green energy plans have not worked out too well either. To date 12 have gone bankrupt and have taken billions of taxpayers money with them. Now he wants to expand this. Something is terribly wrong with this logic.
Add the fact that he has granted 2 years free from deportation for illegal children along with work permits at the worst possibly time when unemployment is rampant, and every citizen should have a problem with this. Heck every legal immigrant should have a problem with this. I don't know what to say about whom to vote for, but I do have to say that Barack Obama is not the right person. I just don't!
Playing fast and lose with the facts is so typical of Republicans and don't give me that garbage that you aren't a republican. You're a dyed-in-the-wool right-wing fanatic who obviously gets your "facts" from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. Do you think the rest of us are stupid and don't recognize you people when you open your mouth?
Yes – Infrastructure is necessary and an Infrastructure Jobs program would create millions of jobs. Only uneduacted right-wingers don't know that.
As for green energy companies, most of those, like Solyndra were approved under the Bush administration. The percentage of green companies to go bankrupt during the recession is no higher than that of other industries on average, even those owned by republicans. Also, you don't even know how a bankrupcty works – a percentage of recoverable assets go back to the creditor – In other words, we haven't lost "billions" to the green energy sector under Obama.
On immigration, President Obama has been the toughest of any president in our history. He has deported more undocumented persons than Bush did in 8 years, but still you look for ridiculous excuses to criticize Obama.
As far as your little "community organizer" meme, President Obama also worked as an attorney for Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, is a former President of the Harvard Law Review, and served as an Illionois state senator and US senator before becoming president. (Your little guy Paul Ryan ahs worked for the government his entire life, by the way).
And also, do you know who else was a "community organizer?" "Jesus of Nazareth!" Why don't you go around and start mocking Jesus for being a "community organizer" you hypocrite?
I don't know what your problem is, if you're a racist or just not very smart, but you really should take a break from running your mouth, spreading your hate and lies until you are better informed.
When you rebuild bridges and make repairs to roads YOU ARE EMPLOYING PEOPLE who then have money to go and spend on houses, cars, clothing, food you name it. We have work to be done and people who need the work. All income being taxed and put back into the system. DUH.
Did you really have to end that with DUH – seriously?
Anyway, it is a short term fix. It does not keep those people working! We need businesses that will continue to employ and expand and sell their product which brings money back to the company to continue growing. We need a country that is business friendly to prevent businesses from picking up shop and going over seas. This is how we put our citizens back to work.
cmm, who are businesses supposed to sell their product to? People with no money? Businesses cannot and will not create one job until there is a demand which means a consumer with money to spend on their product. The job does not come before the demand. It's Business101. Clearly you've never studied Business... and you're here lecturing other people on Business?
Workers building bridges and roads become consumers who then buy products and it's not temporary. What do you mean "temporary?" There are people who work their entire careers building roads and bridges. Do you think we will just build some bridges and roads for 6 months and then never do it again? What kind of bizarre logic is that? Building infrastructure is necessary and it is ONGOING. It doesn't just stop.
Just because you can parrot mindless Fox talking points doesn't mean you know anything about Business and Jobs.
Actually I do.
cmm, Playing fast and loose with the facts is so typical of Republicans and don't give me that stuff that you aren't a republican. You're "facts" obviously come straight from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. Do you think the rest of us don’t recognize those talking points?
Yes – Infrastructure is necessary and an Infrastructure Jobs program would create millions of jobs. It keeps our country moving, keeps commerce moving and keeps people working.
As for green energy companies, most of those, like Solyndra were approved under the Bush administration. And the percentage of green companies to go bankrupt during the recession is no higher than that of other industries on average, even those owned by republicans. Also, you clearly don't even know how a bankruptcy works – a percentage of recoverable assets go back to the creditor – In other words, we haven't lost "billions" to the green energy sector under Obama.
As far as your "community organizer" meme, President Obama also worked as an attorney for Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, is a former President of the Harvard Law Review, and served as an Illinois state senator and US senator before becoming president. And also, do you know who else was a "community organizer?" "Jesus of Nazareth!" Why don't you go around and start mocking Jesus for being a "community organizer?”
You clearly have issues that have nothing to do with President Obama’s job performance, but you have to remember, when you come out in public and start spreading that nonsense, there are people out here who know better.
As there are people out there looking at your postings and wondering how much are you being paid to be a talking head for this administration.
Maybe everyone should think for themselves as I do and realize that both parties have gotten so out of control. They are lining their pockets and their buddies pockets not for the good of the citizens, but for the good of themselves. You can't tell me that this is not rampant in our government. If we don't start controlling what the government does not only with our money, but with our laws then we will become a third world country and lawless. I am very worried for the future of this country. I don't really care who you think I side with since your opinion doesn't matter. All I know is someone has to stop this out of control government. On that note, I'm at a loss on who can do this for us. I just absolutely know that our current administration as well as the past administration was a poor choice. I'm done! Have a nice life!
This just proves what low live belly slithering snakes Obama and his clan are. Obama will say and do anything to win his re-election. He is desperate and don't have any good weapons to use because he has been a total screw up from day one and has continued his foolishness for almost 4 years now. Man enough is enough, Obama never was anybody and will never be anybody but a smooth talker who could sell you an island with no water.
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