President Obama has another day of behind-closed-door meetings with receiving his presidential daily briefing this morning and then later at noon holding a conference call with mayors and community leaders. He'll discuss the impending fiscal cliff situation with the mayors but we can only guess if there are other meetings about the issue on his schedule today. We also assume he's being briefed on the launch of the North Korean missile yesterday. We'll get to ask White House Press Secretary Jay Carney questions about these issues and more at the briefing, scheduled for 12:30p today.
Guidance from the White House:
9:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing
Oval Office (Closed Press)
12:00PM THE PRESIDENT holds a conference call with a bipartisan group of mayors and community leaders
Roosevelt Room (Closed Press)
12:30PM Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney
Wow what a grueling schedule, cant wait to hear from opie
It is beyond me why libs do not blame Obama at all for the current situation and continue to bash and blame Boener. If you are a lib who thinks this – when this situation gets resolved it will be because Boener resolved it – right? After all, if he gets the blame for the situation not getting resolved it only stands to reason that he will be the reason it gets resolved, if it does.
IMO, both parties are killing working class people like me.
No it will be because Bonehead will finally do the right thing.
Who is Bonehead Jean? You been looking in ther Mirror? Maybe your head got stuck in the sand.
Unfortunately, Bonehead is the crybaby Speaker of the House, from Ohio....Oh the shame!
WHY WOULD 'LIBS' BLAME OBAMA WHEN REPUBLICANS CAN'T EVEN MAKE UP THEIR MINDS ON WHO TO BLAME FOR THEIR OWN FAILURES? OBAMA IS DOING JUST FINE WITH THESE NEGOTIATIONS, WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
Hey CNN wheres the story about union thugs beating people ??? these guys say they represent Obammy
Obama is the problem- he WON'T compromise! You guys all talk about Republicans not compromising- Boehner has been incredibly willing to compromise with no return from Reid or Obama
remember, when Boehner said I got 98% !!!!!
Compromise is one thing, Bonehead wants him to capitulate...and that isn't going to happen. Good for Obama!.
OB IS PIGHEADED. IF IT AN'T HIS IDEA IT IS A NO GO. HIS EGO WILL BE HIS DOWN FALL. HE WANTS OTHERS TO BE
SUBSERVIENT TO HIM AS IF HE WERE REALLY SOMETHING. WELL HE IS SOMETHING AND IT NOT A PRESIDENT FOR
ALL AMERICANS,ONLY THOSE THAT WILL COW TOW TO HIS WISHES AND BE BOUGHT FOR VOTES. WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE THESE DAYS. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO REALLY WORKING FOR A LIVING. BIG GOV. WANTS
SLAVES AND THAT WENT OUT WITH ABE DE LINC.
He is doing fine by me....better than Bonehead, Lyin' Ryan, and Can'tor.
Finally, the Generals are saying cut military spending....yeah like which member of the GOP will listen to them, and not the military defense contractors who are lining their pockets? We can't even get them to quit building tanks the military doesn't want...because it in the district next door to Boehner. Cut some of those 750 military bases, on foreign soil, that we pay the country we are defending to have them there.
What a fool you are, ive noticed evreyone pretty much thinks your a jerk
Finally, the Generals are saying cut military spending....well lots of luck with that we can't even get the GOP to quit building tanks they don't want. Why would they listen to the Generals when they are in the hip pocket of the military contractors?
How about closing some of those 750 military bases overseas where we pay the country we are defending to have them there?
If I am paying 30%, why rich 2% have to pay less? Rich people are getting richer and middle class getting poor every day
So you don't want entitlement reform, just to destroy the military. Building fewer tanks and closing bases are 2 very different things. What is wrong with changing some entitlements. There are definitely people on food stamps that don't really need them- not all but some.
So no entitlement reform then jean?
Curious why does the president need to meet with mayors and local leaders? Agenda 21 is in the process starting from the local government. ILCEI working with local governments is a Organization that is trying to eliminate privately owned vehicles so the population will rely on government transportation. Prepare for globalization folks. Happening in front of your eyes and y'all are too blind to see it
Sry... So no entitlement reform jean?
GO OVER THE FISCAL CLIFF AND ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES REPUBLITARDS. IF THE LAST ELECTION DIDN'T TEACH YOU THIS LESSON THEN THE NEXT ONE WILL SEAL YOUR FATE.
OBAMA WON'T LOSE THIS ONE. YOU REPUBLITARDS BETTER GET A CLUE NOW BEFORE YOU BECOME EXTINCT.
Hey December, I have a question that maybe you could answer. The President stated he wanted a balanced approach to the fiscal cliff issue. Seventy percent polled support a balanced approach. This would mean tax increases and budget cuts. Now, as I understand the problem, republicans want to increase at least some revenue by removing loopholes from the tax code. However, they haven't stated what loopholes they would eliminate. Other revenue increases would come from tax increases. I have already stated that the republicans should allow tax cuts for the wealthy to expire. This would raise about 42 billion next year according to the CBO. Eliminating loopholes would need to bring in an additional 120 billion to meet the 1.6 T increase over the next ten years. But the balanced approach also needs budget cuts. I understand Giethner has provided a list of cuts. Is there anywhere where we can found out what they are? I have asked this question several times on the forum. It has not yet been answered.
Surely you jest. Asking December to answer a simple question is like asking a fencepost. You will get the same answer. Geitner took a proposal to McConnel, I think there was 400 billion in cuts and 1.6 Trillion in Taxes and McConnel laughted, probably until he was silly. I don't think there were any details. The Libs are sorta like Wimpy, You loan me money for a Hamburger tdday and I will pay you Tuesday. The problem with Libs Tuesday never comes. AND, we have the 16 Trillion dollar dept to prove it.
HEY CARAMON, THERE ARE NEGOTIATIONS STILL GOING ON BETWEEN THE SPEAKER AND THE PRESIDENT. OBAMA HAS ACTUALLY LOWERED HIS REQUEST FOR REVENUE TO 1.4 T. AS FOR LOOPHOLES, BOTH PARTIES WANT TO CLOSE THEM OR CAP DEDUCTIONS SO THAT IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE.
I THINK THE CUTS OBAMA PUT ON THE TABLE INCLUDE SOME TO MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AGRICULTURAL SUBSIDIES. THERE SHOULD MORE BE DETAILS ON IT FROM HIS 2013 BUDGET PROPOSAL. THE REAL KEY ISSUE HERE IS THAT THE ECONOMY IS STILL RECOVERING AND ANY DEEP CUTS WILL BRING US BACK TO A RECESSION AS PROJECTED WITH THE FISCAL CLIFF.
RAY, THE ONLY ONE WHO LOOKS 'SILLY' IS MITCH MCCONNELL AFTER FILIBUSTERING HIS OWN BILL. PROOF POSITIVE THAT OLD OBSTRUCTIONIST DOLTS NEED TO RETIRE BEFORE THEY DO FURTHER HARM TO THE ECONOMY.
WIMPY? OH MAN, YOU REALLY NEED TO GO BACK TO BED GRAMPA. YOU WATCH TO MUCH CARTOONS.
Well Ray, the first step to dealing with the fiscal cliff would be for both sides to listen. I agree there needs to be budget cuts. But the Republicans will need to come up with revenue as well. To be honest, I am as uncertain as to the revenue increases as to the budget cuts. I believe the problem will be resolved in the final hours. Neither side wants to show weakness.
Thanks December. Were there no cuts offered in defense spending?
I suggest a 15% cut to that bloated military budget for starters.
Hi Jean, I was certain you would chime in on military cuts. Has it been proposed?
Caramon There are $500 billion automatic fiscal cliff cuts just in doing nothing and going off the fiscal cliff....hopefully it will not put all that money back in the budget, if we don't go over the cliff.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY OBAMA SHOULD WASTE HIS BREATH WITH DEFENSE SPENDING CUTS WHEN THE REPUBLICANS WILL JUST SAY NO.
IF THE REPUBLICANS WANT DEFENSE CUTS THEY SHOULD ASK FOR IT. DEMOCRATS WOULD MORE THAN OBLIGE. I DOUBT IT WILL EVER HAPPEN THOUGH AND IF IT DOES, POOR CLAIRE MCCASKILL MIGHT JUST NOT RECOVER FROM THE WHIPLASH.
Ray.... McConnell laughing until he is silly is an oxymoron.
DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. GO ASK RUSH LIMBAUGH! HE MAY BE CRAZY BUT APPARENTLY HE IS NOT STUPID.
SO WHY ARE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS BEING SO STUPID?
The Republicians are stupid? It may not be reported on CNN but several democrat senators are now asking that a Tax on Medical Devices, part of Obama Care, set to go into effect in January be delayed. It seems it is all about jobs! This is just the Tip of the Iceberg1 Lots more to come!
Having dealt with the rip-offs in the medical devices field ,and seen the over-the-top charges to Medicare...Hello! They need to do something to stop the greed in that industry.
seems washington wants to scare americans into more debt but there the ones who aqired it with special intest groups and now they cant collect from them so they pass the bill to us they use the words the rich pay enough taxs wich is their greed what all american workers should do net year is insted of ww2 forms we fill both state and federal forms with the 99 forms showing wasington that american workers are the people for the people that pay the bills and there job is to make the cause for the poor and hepl provide what the taxs are sopose to do,
Dec 12, 4:58 PM EST
Senate intern, a sex offender, faces deportation
By ALICIA A. CALDWELL
AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite
WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Robert Menendez employed as an unpaid intern in his Senate office an illegal immigrant who was a registered sex offender, now under arrest by immigration authorities, The Associated Press has learned. The Homeland Security Department instructed federal agents not to arrest him until after Election Day, a U.S. official involved in the case told the AP.
Why do they always wait until the last minute? This rarely leads to good decisions.
One thing we agree on...this should be sensibly handled, long before the deadline, without all the elephantine whining. Pun intended!
They wait until the last minute for politics. Neither side wants to give in or show weakness. To me, it seems like a no brainer. The President once promised to go through the budget line by line to eliminate overlap and waste. I don't know if this has been done, but it would be a good start. It seems as though cuts are always to major programs. Small programs, overlap and waste, may not seem like much, but it adds up in the end. The Republicans want to eliminate loopholes and credits. They need to put specifics on the table, not determine it at a later date. Unfortunately both require time and effort not quick fixes. The find the rest in tax increases and major budget cuts.
Unfortunately, no president has ever had a line item veto power....it has to be all or nothing.
True Jean. That is why it should be done before ever putting together the budget or bringing it to a vote. But, there is no guarantee that Congress won't add to it afterward just like the 2009 budget resolution. That problem is from both sides and they all love their earmarks.
THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN UP THE FIGHT AGAINST RAISING THE RATE FOR REVENUE SO THEY COULD HAVE SPENT MORE TIME ON GOING OVER SPENDING CUTS. IT IS GETTING LATE TO FIND THE SAVINGS BY GOING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING WHICH I AGREE DOES ADD UP SO THEY ARE NOW STUCK ON CONCENTRATING CUTS TO THE LARGEST PROGRAMS. THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS DEFENSE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT EVEN DISCUSSED IT. BY HOLDING ON TO THE LOSING FIGHT TO RAISE TAXES, THE REPUBLICANS STAND TO LOSE EVEN MORE WHEN DEFENSE CUTS INEVITABLY GETS ON THE TABLE.
I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU, THIS DRAMA SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONCLUDED AT LOT SOONER BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH POLITICIANS AND THEY SEEM TO CRAVE DRAMA EVEN WORSE THAN OUR SHOWBIZ FOLKS.
I can't disagree with you on the defense cuts. If Jean is right and the military doesn't want tanks, then it should be cut. However, they should also cut the funding from those extremely expensive vacations some departments take. How about the 1 million dollar tab on bottled water for our representatives. Let them buy their own water like the rest of us.
Unfortunately, the budget and tax codes are very extensive. They all could have spent the better part of last month looking for ways to save and eliminate loopholes instead of playing politics.
YOU WON'T GET ANY ARGUMENT FROM ME. IF I COULD I WOULD STOP PAYING THEIR SALARIES UNTIL THEY GET THIS FISCAL CLIFF RESOLVED.
December, to use a simile, asking Democrats to cut any spending other than to defense or farming is like asking a chihuahua not to bark. It's in it's nature.
EXCEPT THEY ALREADY MADE CUTS TO MEDICARE AND EVEN PUT MEDICAID ON THE TABLE. WHAT'S NEXT ON YOUR LIST OF THINGS YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT?
No they didn't. What's next on your list of untruthful statements to back yourself up. Harry Reid last night at a dinner said he didn't think he could convince Democrats for spending cuts to social programs. Plus, who cares about the past. Clearly not cut much because the yearly deficits are higher these past 4 years
NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll -
68% OF REPUBLICANS POLLED do not want – I repeat – DO NOT WANT CUTS TO MEDICARE. You are a little out of step in your own party there, Dan.
YOUR OWN CANDIDATE CAMPAIGNED AGAINST OBAMA FOR MAKING CUTS TO MEDICARE TO THE TUNE OF 716 BILLION. SO WHICH OF YOU IS LYING?
ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT OBAMA'S PROPOSED SPENDING CUTS, IT INCLUDES CUTS TO MEDICARE AND MEDICAID OF OVER 300 BILLION DOLLARS.
TIRED OF BEING WRONG YET?
I didn't say Medicare once Cynthia. Looks like I'm not out of step. I was referring to entitlement reform.
I didn't say Medicare
AND SO YOU SHOULDN'T. IT IS TIME TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING.
JUST HOW MANY FIGHTER JETS DO WE NEED BEFORE WE STOP THINKING ABOUT CUTTING GRANDMA'S HEALTH CARE?
We NEED entitlement reform like food stamps