Thursday December 20, 2012 at the White House
December 20th, 2012
08:48 AM ET

Thursday December 20, 2012 at the White House

Today Vice President Biden will meet with law enforcement leaders for the first time as the head of an interagency effort to curb gun violence. Yesterday in the briefing room President Obama announced the initiative to shape the administration's response to the tragic shooting in Newtown Connecticut. Also attending the meeting, Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, and Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius.

The fiscal cliff is looming over the nation and President Obama has promised to veto the latest effort called "plan B" by Majority Leader John Boehner. Boehner on Tuesday proposed a "plan B," which would extend Bush-era tax cuts on income of up to $1 million. He described it as a fallback option to prevent a sweeping tax hike while negotiations continue on a broader plan.

In less than two weeks the nation's taxpayers would face automatic tax increases and deep spending cuts if no agreement is reached.

A senior administration official said no talks or meeting with Rep Boehner are scheduled at this point but continued "Anything's possible".

White House Schedule:
The President will attend meetings at the White House. These meetings are closed press.

Briefing Schedule
12:30PM Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney


soundoff (53 Responses)
  1. jean2009

    ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬On the first day of Christmas
    Boehner gave to me
    A partial list of good old Plan B

    On the second day of Christmas
    Boehner gave to me
    Two more days of heartache
    And a partial list of good old Plan B

    ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

    On the third day of Christmas
    Boehner gave to me
    Three more excuses
    Two more days of heartache
    And a partial list of good old Plan B

    On the fourth day of Christmas
    Boehner gave to me
    Four veiled threats
    Three more excuses
    Two more days of heartache
    And a partial list of good old Plan B

    ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

    On the fifth day of Christmas
    Boehner gave to me
    ♫ ♬ FIVE CUPS OF TEA ♩ ♪
    Four veiled threats
    Three more excuses
    Two more days of heartache
    And a partial list of good old Plan B. ♫ ♬

    The majority voted for plan A...and Boehner wants to give us Plan B the same old GOP B ull.

    December 20, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • James444

      Boehner and the rest of the Repubs only care about the wealthiest Americans. More than 70% of the money contributed by the NRA and gun lobbyists went to Republican candidates. Why? Because they want their rich buddies to keep on making money on weapons such as the AR-15 assault rifle that killed 20 children in Newtown. Right now, we have more gun dealers in U.S., than McDonalds. Since the Brady Act expired in 2004, there have been 61 mass gun murders in the U.S. There were nearly 10,000 gun deaths in USA in 2010, compared to 41 in Britain which as sensible gun control laws. More guns have contributed to the most violent society in the world!

      December 20, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • Caramon

      Whether I agree or not is beside the point. That was pretty good Jean. What about the other 7 days?

      December 20, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
      • jean2009

        We are just 5 days out from Christmas...and Bonehead is working hard at playing silly go nowhere games ...which probably means we are going over the cliff.

        At 77, I have lived through all levels of tax rates, and the Clinton era rates were by far not the worse. I won't take credit for the words or the melody. The words are from Mark Fiore at The Daily Kos...and we all know the song. I thought the idea was far too good not to share....being this was a busy day; as most are at this time of the year.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Ray E. (Georgia)

      Boehner gave you the Cold Hard Facts of life. You just want to ignore them. Why do you want to screw the Rich people out of their money? They earned it. Book your own freaken life.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Pappy

      Not bad at all you chubby little booze hag

      December 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • Dan B

      Just because Reid, Pelosi, and Obama won't negotiate doesn't mean you should take it out on Boehner, but nice effort I gotta say.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • NAM VET

      PLAN A NOR PLAN B ARE ACCEPTABE TO THE IDIOT SAVANT IN THE CAT SEAT. OB WANTS HIS WAY OR NO WAY. OB WILL OWN THE OVER THE CLIF IF HE CAN'T CONTROL HIS EGO. HE IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE,NOR ANY FREE WAY
      OF LIFE AS A REPUBLIC. HE IS A VERY SICK MAN. HE WAS NEVER VETTED AS ALL OTHERS HAVE BEEN AND NEVER EVEN HAD A PHYSICAL AS ALL OF HIS PREDICESSORS. HE IS JUST ABOVE ALL OF US OR SO HE FEELS.
      WE DO NOT HAVE KIINGS,DICTATORS OR SOCIAL RADICALS AS WE SEEN FOR THOSE THAT LEAD TO WW2. IN THE
      PRIVATE SECTOR OR MILITARY SUCH BEHAVIOR WOULD END IN COURT MARTIAL AND TIME IN JAIL. WHAT MAKES
      HIM BETTER THAN THE REST OF US. PLEASE DO NOT BRING UP THE RACIAL CRAP,HE HIS NOT BLACK NOR IS HE WHITE,HE IS JUST THE SAME AS THE REST OF US IN THAT REGARDS, THAT BEING WE ARE A HEINZE 57
      VARITY. WE ARE A BLEND OF THE BEST AND THE WORST. WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE ALL MADE THIS COUNTRY
      GREAT. NO ONE,NO ONE WILL WILL DESTROY THIS NATION.

      December 23, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
      • jean2009

        Plan A is the President's plan.

        December 24, 2012 at 8:27 am |
  2. agimonious

    This may be the last piece of legislation Pres. Obama ever gets through Congress, and that may be no exaggeration either. Just give some honest, reflective thought here to the impact that this little piece of legislation might have in order to be "effective". And before you make up your mind think about how firmly entrenched gun violence is in the American culture and psyche. And how much Americans are entertained by the words, images, and emotions that violence invokes albeit in a presumably fictional context. But for every vicarious thrill from gun violence a fictional episode invokes, there is a real life experience behind it and a cultural infrastructure. Americans accommodate gun culture and profit from it, all of us do in spite of what the cultural elitist, hypocrites say and do. What do you think will happen to the entertainment industry if the necessary changes are made to American culture in order to promote a more peaceful society – a kinder gentler, America and the economy at large? Give just a little thought to the economic impact. How much of the American economy is do you think is based on "gun violence"? And do you think a violent world would welcome such a shift in American culture? And what about the impact of sensationalism of gun violence by the media and press, is the media willing to self censor in order to make the necessary cultural changes, or does the government need to impose a censorship board to get the media to tone things done so that Americans can properly shelter and promote "peace" in their kinder, gentler culture. Perhaps the powers-that-be should look to some other societies as a model for this type of culture such as China. They seem to be doing pretty well with it.

    December 20, 2012 at 10:10 am |
  3. John

    On every day of the year the dems give us more and more and more taxes...

    December 20, 2012 at 11:20 am |
  4. judy

    very clever jean and oh so true.

    December 20, 2012 at 11:21 am |
  5. judy

    apparently the repos think that democrats have a special agenda to take away their guns. These idiots keep hollering about the 2nd amendment. I know a 70 year old drunk that just went out and bought 2 assault rifles to protect his rights. Actually he had someone else buy them for him as he is a felon. Do we really need people like this having guns??? wake up

    December 20, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Caramon

      Judy, I am pretty certain we already have laws against that. It sounds to me that enforcement is the problem at least in this case.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Ray E. (Georgia)

      Well Judy,
      Maybe it's time you got out of the gutter you think Conservatives frequent and see what is really happening. No wonder you are all screwed up.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • jean2009

      @judy I wonder how many people on here even had a first grade teacher? It has been a lot of years, and a lot of water under the bridge, but I remember my first grade teacher....Mrs Jones having a gun is a crazy scary thought. It was long before the era of home schooling, but her having a gun at school would have moved the era of home schooling up 5 or 6 decades for a lot of parents.

      December 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
      • steveo

        There was a time when teachers were respected. My first grade teacher was down right scary! Back in the day you messed up, you got a look. If you kept it up, you got the Board of Education! No lawsuits, no apologies! Teachers were in control of their classrooms and not the students! There was respect back then! Sadly, we are now in a different time! Society has changed!

        December 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
      • jean2009

        Not really Steveo there have always been some teachers who can kept order in the classroom, and others who are helpless against student bullying who will let those members of a class so disrupt a room that no one can effectively learn.

        December 21, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
      • jean2009

        I had a 3rd grade teacher who couldn't keep order, the classroom was in a constant state of mayhem, and she was in constant tears. Across the hall was this little 4 ft. 9 in. 60+ lady that taught 4th grade. She only had to look at an offending student for them to sit up straight and behave.

        December 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
      • Steveo

        @jean, yeah! there are always exceptions. I have had some wonderful teachers and then again, there were those that seemed not to care one way or the other.

        December 21, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
    • Caramon

      Yes Jean, I very well remember my first grade teacher Mrs. Fricke. Not a very good teacher. But I doubt at the age of 5 and 6 that I could judge whether my teacher could own a gun. However, the question was whether a felon should own a gun. I am certain the law prohibits any felon from owning a gun. A person who buys a gun for a felon has also broken the law. So, it isn't that we don't have laws against felons buying guns. They just aren't being enforced.

      December 20, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
      • jean2009

        I agree the person who buys a felon a gun should be in the slammer with the felon.

        December 21, 2012 at 8:36 am |
    • NAM VET

      JUDY,JUDY,JUDY, HOW IS IT YOU HAVE SO MANY GUNS IN YOUR SAFE ROOM. YES JUDY YOUR SAFE ROOM.
      YOU SHOULD NOT TELL ALL TO JUST ANYONE IN THE CHAT ROOMS.

      December 23, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
  6. DEcember 2012

    REPUBLITARDS HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IT IS NOT THE DEMOCRATS THAT DEFEAT THEM, IT IS THEIR OWN INSANITY THAT MAKES PEOPLE RUN AWAY FROM THEM.

    December 20, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • Maria

      You know my pain... I'm from Oklahoma... Point taken. You know how many Democrats are in Oklahoma... NOT ENOUGH

      December 21, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • NAM VET

      YOU SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SANE AND OTHERWISE.IS THIS NOT AN INSANE ADMINISTRATION,I CAN NOT SEE ANYTHING SANE IN OB'S METHODS OR LODGICAL NOR PRACTICAL IN HIS REIGHN OF TERROR ON THIS OR THE
      LAST TERM. NOTHING NEW JUST THE SAME OLD POO AS ALWAYS. WE ALL DESERVE BETTER THAN RETERIC AND
      SMOKE AND MIRRORS. WE NEED A PRESIDENT WITH 2 BIG ONES TO DO THE PEOPLES WORK AND NOT FOR THE LEFTIES
      THAT SPENT THE SAVINGS OF UNION WORKERS TO PUT THIS SORRY AS---BACK IN OFFICE.

      December 23, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  7. electedface

    Mass shootings = proof that gun regulation is necessary.

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_hZQPpCJ1M&w=640&h=390]

    December 20, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
  8. Dan B

    I'm not for over regulation of guns, but why was a mother with a mentally challenged child who was himself rejected allowed to have a semi-automatic weapon? And why did she need a semi-automatic weapon?

    December 20, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • steveo

      Dan B,

      How would a gun salesman know that? Privacy laws would prevent that info from being made public! I can't even pick up my wife's prescription much less have a doctor talk to me about her medical history, even though I already know it! No way under current law for a salesman t ask about medical issue of family members. I'm n not even sure that qustion could be asked of a potentional buyer. Someone correct me if I am wrong!

      December 20, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
      • Dan B

        Good point.

        December 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
      • jean2009

        You most certainly could do both, but maybe your wife hasn't considered signing the HIPAA paperwork that would allow you to see her medical records, or pick up her prescriptions. I've signed HIPAA paperwork so my children, their wives, and even granddaughters can be informed of my medical condition.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
      • steveo

        Good point Jean, We wil do that!

        December 21, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Dan B

      I'm not talking about me jean

      December 20, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • Dan B

      Sorry, maybe I'm not understanding you... Legitimately I'm not an expert on guns

      December 20, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
      • jean2009

        I wasn't talking about guns I was talking about how Steveo would be able to have access to his wife's medical condition.

        But how would those who do background checks have known there was a person in the Lanza home who shouldn't have access to a gun? Mrs. Lanza was the person whose background was being checked, and she had a clean record. Facts are: those who do background checks will never have all the information,.and maybe that in itself is the best reason why guns that are only used for killing people should not be available to people other than law enforcement. No one can hunt for wild game with these guns...they are primarily made to kill man. And then there are those guns which are sold for which there has never been a background check made....through the gun show loophole.

        December 21, 2012 at 8:49 am |
      • steveo

        Jean2009,

        Jean,
        Your post is my point. Salesmen would never have known about the son due to medical privacy laws. The fact is the only one who knew about her household was the mother who is now deceased!

        The last point I want to make is this IF any thing is banned, the weapons that go under ground wil not be affected, which mean just like illegal drugs, the criminal element will still have access. Truly, what happened last week is changing the national conversation!

        December 21, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
  9. judy

    ray from Georgia I have no idea what you are talking about. and I don't think you do either. Cameron yes enforcement is part of the problem so is gun shows where people do not have to register at all. So is mental health issues . I don't want to arm a bunch of teachers . What if they make a mistake and shot the wrong person? They have enough to worry about. No of the discussions infringe on the 2nd amendment

    December 21, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • steveo

      I am in agreement with you. Arming teachers is not the answer. At the same time, armed guards in the hallways is disconcerting as well. I have seen that in the Big Apple along with metal detectors and such and not just in high schools either! Makes you wonder if you are in school, or in prison. The problem is there are some in society that just does not value life.

      December 21, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Dan B

      For once. Agreed

      December 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
      • Dan B

        Not that I hate you ray, because I agree with you a lot

        December 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • NAM VET

      GOOD ONE JUDY,PUT GUNS IN THE HAND OF STRIKING TEACHERS-OH MY GOD---–

      December 23, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
  10. jean2009

    I had someone who wanted to state that England has had more school shootings than the United States which actually not true. so I checked the Time Line for School Shootings and Mass Shooting Worldwide which covered all school shooting and mass shootings since the first of 1996 up to date. The list included: 1 in Scotland; 1 in Argentina;1 in Yemen;1 in Netherlands;1 in France; 1 in Norway; 1 in Brazil; 2 in Finland; 2 in Canada; 1 in Bosnia 3 in Germany; and 1 in Sweden.

    Here is the list of school and mass shootings in the United States starting with 1996:

    Moses Lake, WA. – 1996
    Bethel, Alaska 1997
    Pearl, MIss -1997
    W. Paducah, KY-1997
    Stamps, AK -1997
    Jonesboro, AK-1998
    Edinboro, PA. 1998
    Fayetteville TN -1998
    Springfield, OR 1998
    Richmond Colo-1999
    Conyers, GA-1999
    Mt.Morris Twnsp, Mich 2000
    Savannah, GA 2000
    Lake Worth, FL – 2000
    New Orleans, LA 2000
    Baltimore, MD.-2001
    Ssntee, CA-2001
    Williamsport, PA 2001
    Granite Hills, CA-2001
    Gary, IN-2001
    Caro, MI-2001
    New York, N.Y.2002
    Tuscon, AZ- 2002
    New Orleans, LA 2003
    Red Lion, PA 2003
    Cold Spring, MN 2003
    Red Lake, MN 2005
    Jacksboro, TN 2005
    Essex, Vt. 2006
    Bailey, Colo-2006
    Cazenovia, WA. 2006
    Nickel Mines, PA 2006
    Blacksburg, VA 2007
    Dover, Del- 2007
    Cleveland, OH 2007
    Baton Rouge, LA 2008
    Oxnard, CA 2008
    DeKalb, IL- 2008
    Fort Lauderdale, FL 2008
    Madison, AL 2010
    Huntsville, AL 2010
    Columbus, OH 2010
    Omaha, NB 2011
    Tuscon, AZ 2011
    Houston, TX 2011
    San Jose, CA 2011
    Blacksburg, VA 2011
    Walpole, N H. 2012
    Chardon, OH 2012
    Jacksonville, FL 2012
    Oakland, CA-2012
    Aurora, CO 2012
    Oak Creek Wisc 2012
    Portland, OR- 2012
    Newtown, Conn 2012

    The list is mind numbing...and the NRA says more guns are the answer...I think not!

    December 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
  11. Ray E. (Georgia)

    It is such a shame that too many people want and expect handouts for their existance. There was that black lady in Detroit that said we elected you Obama now bail us out. Detroit is an example of liberal politics in this country. People have forgotten, never learned how to take care of themselves. Now the bottom is about to drop out and people have no clue what to do. Therer is an old saying CHARITY STARTS AT HOME. But people have never heard that because of all the Social Programs now in place. With Obama Care, higher Taxes for those above $200,000.00 few jobs it is going to be tough until people start learning to take care of themselves. The road the hell is paved with good intentions.

    December 23, 2012 at 9:07 am |
    • jean2009

      If that is how you feel about it, you could always send them back your welfare check.

      December 23, 2012 at 9:37 am |
      • Ray E. (Georgia)

        What Welfare Check Jean? Harry Truman said The Buck Stops Here. Bill Clinton said, The Buck Never Got Here. Barrack Obama said, Buck, Where? Oh, raise Taxes on that Sucker, that'll fix him. A Tax, Tax here, a Tax. Tax, there ol Obama had a Tax, Tax Farm, Ei Ei O. More Taxes in the Pipeline for everybody!

        December 23, 2012 at 10:35 am |
      • NAM VET

        WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SENT BACK YOUR CHECK SO THAT REAL FOLKS WOULD HAVE A CRACK OF THE
        SAME SCAM ON THE FOLKS IN NEED. AT 77 YOU ARE IN NEED OF SPECIAL HELP. I THINK YOU NEED TO GET
        IN TUNE TO GROWING OLD. YOU ARE A LIB AND WILL NEVER CHANGE. SORRY FOR YOUR WOOES BUT LIVE WITH IT AS THE REST OF US AT OUR EVER GROWING AGE DO. GO OUT AND MEET OTHER LIBS,DANCE AND MAKE MERRY. THEN GO HOME AND HAVE A SIP OF WINE AND GET A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP. ALL GETS BETTER WHEN THE SUNS UP AND A HOT CUP OF COFFEE AT HAND. SORRY FOR YOU MUST BE HOT CHOCOLATE VERSION WITH
        NO CAFF. IF I AM BEING A SH-T IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE THAT WAY. I JUST HAVE AN OPINION ON DUMB COMMENTS.

        December 23, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
      • jean2009

        Ray just sounds like a welfare check.

        December 24, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • NAM VET

      THIS COMMENT IS NOT DIRECTED TO ANY ONE, BUT JUST HOW I HAVE OBSERVED IN MY LIFE TIME. THAT IS WHAT WE OLD WHITE AND BLACK FOLKS DO. MOST OF OUR SOCIAL PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN TO THE LACK OF ANY
      SORT OF FAMILY STRUCTURE FOR MOST OF OUR LIVES. WW2 SAW WOMEN WORKING TO SUPPORT THE WAR EFFORT AND THERE FAMILIES WHILE DAD WAS AWAY. AFTER THE WAR THINGS WERE BAD AND BOTH ADULTS
      STILL HAD TO WORK TO KEEP LIFE GOING. THEN CAME KOREA AND MORE OF THE SAME. THEN CAME THE COLD WAR AND STILL BOTH ADULTS WORKING TO KEEP A FAMILY TOGETHER IN THE ABSENCE OF MOM AND DAD IN HOUSE WITH FAMILY. NOT MUCH LATER CAME NAM AN THE SAME SITUATION PERSISTED. FAMILY LIFE HAS
      BECOME A MINORITY ISSUE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED. NOW WE HAVE ONE WAR OF SORTS OR ANOTHER AND GUESS WHAT WE NOW HAVE A TOTAL NEW WAY OF LIFE THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. WE DO NOT
      GO TO CHURCH AS A FAMILY ANYMORE,NOR DO WE REALLY HAVE FREINDS ANYMORE. OH WE HAVE TWEET.TWITT AND CHAT SIGHTS AND SAY WE HAVE MULTI FREINDS--REALLY WE HAVE A SOCIETY THAT CONFIDES WITH PEOPLE THAT WE DO NOT KNOW AND YET WE TELL ALL OF OUR PERSONAL LIFE TO TOTAL
      STRANGERS. ANY ONE OUT THERE MAY COMMENT IF YOU HAVE A RELAVANT THOUGHT.

      December 23, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
  12. NAM VET

    REALLY, HAVE AN ARMED GUARD IN SCHOOLS–ONE GUARD WITH MANY INS AND OUTS ACCESS–GIVE ME A
    BREAK. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A METAL DETECTOR,AND NO EXITS AND A CLASS ROOM WITH METAL SHUTTERED WINDOWS AND DOORS TO EACH CLASSROOM. YOU IN IN EFFECT HAVE A PRISON FOR OUR KIDS,

    December 23, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
  13. NAM VET

    WE CANNOT PROTECT OUR KIDS NOR OURSELVES FROM ALL OR FOR THAT MATTER ONLY VERY FEW THREATS.
    THIS LIST WOULD GO ON. IIF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. HOW ABOUT THE INTERNET CHAT CRAP. FREINDS YOU DO NOT
    KNOW THAT YOUR KIDS ASSOCIATE WITH, LIFE IS TOUGH AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. GET TO KNOW YOUR KIDS AND BE REAL PARENTS WITH A SENSE OF A RESPONSIBLE PARENT AND BETTER THIINGS WILL REWARD. YES
    WE AS OR KIDS DO HAVE PROBS. BUT AS A FAMILY WE CAN MAKE IT RIGHT OR AT LEAST BETTER. NO IT WON'T
    BE EASY NOR FAST,NOTHING EVER IS. TOUGH LOVE IS JUST THAT--GET USED TO IT FOLKS.

    December 23, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  14. Dan B

    Feliz Navidad a todo, let me be the first to say... Merry Christmas

    December 23, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
  15. jean2009

    Best wishes for the season to all! . I will be out of town with family,and the great grandbabies for a few days. MeMa needs to do some more cooking, and get this show on the road.

    Who knows by the time I'm back they may have moderated my previous message!

    December 24, 2012 at 8:37 am |
  16. Caramon

    Mele Kalikimaka! to all during the happiest of holidays. May 2013 bring great things.

    Aloha

    December 24, 2012 at 12:16 pm |