President Obama returned from Hawaii yesterday and today he has last minute talks with the four Congressional leaders- Speaker Boehner, Minority Leader Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Reid, and Senate Minority Leader McConnell. The meeting is behind closed doors and not opened to cameras. With four days left we’ll all be waiting to see if any announcement will come on the foundations of a deal.
Here's the schedule, as released by the White House:
10:00AM In-Town Pool Call Time
3:00PM THE PRESIDENT hosts the bipartisan, bicameral leadership of Congress at the White House; THE VICE PRESIDENT also attends
Oval Office (Closed Press)
Union thugs about to close ports.
Going over the fiscal
11 states have more people getting hand outs than working,
just a few of obammys accomplishments,
you voted for it, enjoy !!!
Grim milestone: Austin shooting apparently 500th homicide in Chicago, perfect, very strict gun laws are working well in this city, wasnt the guy who runs the show there bammys buddy??? The new norm.. You all voted for this, enjoy!!
Hey folks, don't bother to respond to the two idiots here, they obviously are two of the idiots that put the tea party in power. Hows that working out for the country gents.
YOU HAVE JUST EARNED THE NUMBER ONE SLOT AS THE DUMMY OF THE THE DAY. YOU MUST BE PROUD TO BE
AN IDIOT SAVANT.
Not very smart are you?
SMART YOU ARE NOT–DUMMY FITS YOUR REMARKS.
Libs can't handle the fact that Obama is in charge of the country and owns the mess he has caused by not leading the country over the past 4 years. It seems the can is too heavy to kick down the road at this point.
The ultimate politician has tried doing it the political way, i.e. hold off making any kind of real decisions and hope the problem goes away. Unfortunately for Obama, this strategy has brough us to where we are now.
I agree, these stupid libs made a terrible decision putting this guy back into office. But, it is not their fault, they are just blind followers who can only spew the party lines "Bush's fault", "Thing were much worse than we thought", It is the repubs fault", "it is the rich people who are at fault" – but then we hear – "Obama is God", "things are getting better", "The best president this country has ever seen".
Even stupid libs have to realize they made the wrong choice when middle class taxes go up by 2K in a couple of days. I do not like Romney, but he was much better for the job that needed to be done.
dear john & pappy – just think – if this country got rid of – or all of you conservatives just died of heart attacks, or just dropped off the face of this earth, i can imagine that this world would be better off, and to be blunt, this country would be better off.
According to the Military Times, this would include about 65 percent of our military.
YOUR REMARKS ARE LESS THAN CHRISTIAN DEAR LADY. YOU MIGHT RETHINK A LITTLE OR A LOT. IF YOU THINK AT ALL.
Hey, I know I'm late with my response but to wish people to die for your politics is less than human! Your middle name Adolf or something?
Bush still owns the mess. I ask you...Who in their right mind thinks they can run two unfunded wars (one for non-existent WMD) off the books, still cut taxes to the lowest level in history, and drain the treasury with vote buying tax rebates? Anyone who thinks that can be done without tanking the economy is more than just Looney Tunes, they are over the border insane.
JEANNE GET A LIFE AND LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD. AS IT IIS DIFFICULT TO FIND A COMMENT SIGHT THAT IS NOT OWNEDED BY LIBS I AM HERE AND YOUR COMMENTS ARE BEING CHALLENGED. YOU MOST LIKELY DID NOT EVEN
NOTE THAT THE SUPREME LEADER DID NOT NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO RETURN A SALUTE. AS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO
IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GENIIUS IQ,HE IS DUMB AS DUMBER IS ON THE TV SHOW. HE HAS A VERY LIMITED
DEGREE OF MOST MILITARY WORDS. IE COREMAN AND HIS REMARK CORPSMAN. WHAT A RUDE THING TO DO. YOU
IN REGARDS TO PAYING TAXES–MUST BE NICE TO HAVE ALL THE ADVANTAGES OF A DEM AND NOT HAVING TO
PAY AS MUCH AS FOLKS ON LIMMITED RETIREMENT WILL PAY THEIRS AND YOUR SHARE AS WELL.
GET YOUR HEAD STRAIGHT LADY. BUSH IS HISTORY BUT IS STILL BEING USED BY THIS IDIOT SAVANT WHO THINKS
THAT CHAOS IS THE MEANS TO FURTHER HIS GREAT PLANS FOR THE OVER THROW OF AMERICA. HE IS IN TOTAL
AGREEMENT WITH WHAT BIN LADDEN ONCE SAID. "WE WILL DESTROY AMERICAN WITH THEIR OWN ECONOMY."
HE MUST HAVE HAD WORDS WITH BAMMY WHEN THEY SPOKE IN PAKISTAN ON HIS SPRING BREAK TOUR.
Jean... It is sumple the POTUS is standing in the way of negotiation for 8 days of government funding. Simple... Get it??? Who is more petty?? The POTUS who promised you progressives that he would "get" the rich guy??? or people that are working for both revenue increases and spending cuts??? He is about to throw the country under the bus for 8 days of funding.... Sad!
WHAT A RIDICULOUS INTERPRETATION OF REALITY. THE PRESIDENT CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS OF CONGRESS GETTING ITS ACT TOGETHER. IF A BILL PASSES BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE THEN YOU HAVE A POINT, OTHERWISE YOU ARE JUST TALKING UTTER NONSENSE.
Your pathetic recall of recent history is mind numbing.
Most of us Recall that Before Barack Obama was sworn in, the country was in losing 3 quarters of a million jobs per month. No matter how hard idiots try to blame President Obama for this, its simply not realistic nor plausible to do so...if you are sane anyway
Most of us Recall that Before Barack Obama was sworn in, the auto industry was nearly desimated. No matter how hard idiots try to blame President Obama for this, its simply not realistic nor plausible to do so...if you are sane anyway.
Most of us Recall that Before Barack Obama was sworn in, this nation was in the midst of two wars....One in Afghanistan, where we let the perpetrator of 9/11 slip out and get away, and another war in Iraq...looking for WMD's that never existed. We paid for these wars on a Chinese Credit cards, combined with tax cuts. Never in our history has there ever been the practice of our country to fight wars without any sacrafice to this country's citizens...and in case you hadn't heard me say this... idiots try to blame President Obama for this, but its simply not realistic nor plausible to do so...if you are sane anyway
I could go on... But I think you get the point. Did you just wake on on Jan 21'st 2009 while Pres. Obama was getting sworn in and say...."look at the mess that Obama made"? I bet you did......Ok go back to sleep while he fixes it anyway.
I know most on here won't believe me but I do try to love my fellow man, regardless of creed, race, sex, etc. However, I find myself hating this man. Everything he does and says is so diametrically opposed to what I believe to be good and righteous that my animal instinct of hatred comes out. I used to just think he was clueless and the puppet of shadowy figures, but now I am starting to believe that he is purposely trying to destroy everything I love about this country. This man is evil.
YOU ARE STRESSED WITH SOME REAL PROBS. BUT HATE IS NOT IN MY VOCBULARY. BE MORE POSITIVE AND
PRAY FOR THIS GUY TO HAVE HUMANITY FOR THE COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS HIM TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO
THE RIGHT THING IN GODS EYES. ALSO IN THE EYES OF THOSE OF US WHO PAY HIS HIGH SALARY. -----–
Idiocy and short term memory loss creates your hatred for the president.
President Obama didn't cause the stock market to crash ....Dow in Sept 2008 dropped to 6700....But president Obama has been at the helm when it recovered to twice that much today. Even the economists are having trouble explaining why Wall Street did so well , even with a GOP contigent still in Washington.
President Obama didn't create a meltdown in the housing market where 1 out of 3 homes went into foreclosure. But president Obama has been at the helm as this vital part of our economy recovers. The economists view the housing markets recovery as vital to the nation's recovery.
President Obama didn't have the bright idea of letting the guy that perpetrated 9/11 escape after we had him pinned down in Afghanistan. Instead President Obama ordered his killing...You know the name, Osama Bin Laden....Now fish food.
President Obama didn't have this country running in to Iraq looking for WMD's, when in fact it was his predecessor who wanted vengence for dad that forced that dumb move. We went there on Tax cuts, funded by a Chinese credit card. And guess what, that created deficits and spending as far as the eye can see. Much to the contrary, President Obama got us out of Iraq and is finishing the job in Afghanistan.
The list goes on and on, but your hatred of Obama is clearly misplaced because NONE OF THE PROBLEMS THIS COUNTRY IS FACING....did the current president cause. You would have to be an idiot to think so. So which is it......ARE YOU A RACIST OR AN IDIOT...I leave that to you to decide.
blah blah blah, hanity said this, rush said that, some republican website made up some numbers, same old stuff
if you repeat lies over and over, it doesn't make them true, just ask mitt
You should know MCSK.... you have been doing it for 4 years now!
Pappy....have you been able to see the truth since the "nineteen twenty's"??? This has been the worst down turn in this country since the great depression. Guess What ....President Obama wasn't in office when it happened. To blame the president for it would be like criticizing the firemen for putting out the flames on your house.
There is some real idiocy going on to continue to blame President Obama for the problems this nation is facing. Its simply nuts. I see terms like Socialism, communism etc. just floated around. Let's be honest here, there are is a noticiable contingent of the intellectually deficient. These people are the most vocal with the least amount of proven facts. They simply hate President Obama because they stood by and said nothing as "lil Dubya" destroyed this wonderful country. Now those same fools are resentful that President Obama is doing the hard work and taking the criticism of cleaning up the mess.
Which are you ; "Pappy"???? The person who stood silently as Bush destroyed this country...Or the person that wants to blame Obama for every ill this country is experiencing? Either way, you are missing the mark.
What makes you think the numbers on the Democrat website are truthful and the Republican website are not?
Because we are not dumb enough to believe Rush....or the party of dumb down the world, like the GOP.
Jean, that is not an answer. You say that what you WANT to believe is the only truth.
Well Caramon, if you only want to believe Rush that is your business...but remember Rush also promised he would, then did not move to Costa Rico. Who can believe someone who doesn't keep a promise. The Democrats' numbers have been run through the CBO. I'll put my faith in the CBO over FAUX.
As for following the wishes of voters in ones district..it hasn't worked with mine...he only votes in line with Grover Norquist.
Is this the same CBO that once said the healthcare act would cost 1 T than later said 2.3 T? As far as promises go, what happened to the person who promised to cut the deficit in half or go through the budget line by line and eliminate waste?
That road still goes in both directions. You still choose who you want to believe. the big difference is Rush did not run for president.
Actually Jean, I haven't listened to Rush in years. Didn't Barbara also say should would leave if Bush got elected? Did she?
Caramon – Here is an interesting article you should read. Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Drive Large Current Deficits at The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities website by Julia Ruffing and James Horney.
The facts are simple over half $9 Trillion of our current and projected federal deficit is due to the Bush era tax cuts, and instead of raising the needed revenue to pay for those two unfunded wars, instead borrowing to pay for them.
Barbara who? I din't mention anyone named Barbara.
And I never mentioned Rush. Again double standards Jean. I certainly hope this article you mentioned is better than the last when author attributed the 2009 budget entirely to Bush even when a portion was passed AFTER he left office.
Well jean you were dumb enought to believe Nancy Pelosi when she said we have to pass it to find out whats in it... you were dumb enough to buy a pig in a poke!
Bill in STL ...First it is helpful to know Ms Pelosi's exact quote....not some dumb misquote that a teapitty idiot would like to wallow in, and pretend she said. Ignorance is bliss to the American ultra-right wing.
The exact quote is this: "We have to pass the bill so YOU can fine out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy." Which s a totally different meaning than your unintelligent spin on it. Until the final draft of every bill must be passed by both houses of congress, and signed by the President before "We" the electorate know exactly what is in any piece of legislation.... even though Ms Pelosi herself had read the full House proposed version of the bill.... as a member of the House she knows what is in that version, and until the Senate had passed the bill and returned it to the House (with their recommendations for the House to approve) until that is done and it is sent back to the Senate for a vote and sent to the president for his signature the exact final legislation can change from what was in the House version of the bill.
This is what Ms Pelosi said in reference to why the far-right misquotes the meaning of what she said.
“We’re in the trenches fighting this out,” she said. And: “We don’t even have a bill written yet. The Senate has not acted. And that really, the president really thought he was going to get a Republican vote in the Senate… You can’t say it’s in the bill, read it, ’cause there is no bill.”
Until any bill is a law signed by the President there may be several draft versions, but the final consolidated bill approved in its final entirety by both houses, and approved with the signature of the President, is then printed by the U.S. Government Printing Office is what WE the electorate can read as the law of the land to KNOW what is in it.
Of course, today most of what the U.S. Government Printing Office does is not to waste tons of paper, but instead to print new legislation in a digital format. Which makes more sense cost wise.
Caramon, if we were in a elementary tug-a-war, numbers would matter. But this is about what is best for this country and the Re-Pub party is bent on this nation's destruction.
If GOP/Tea folks wanted to stand on principle, where were they when "lil Dubya" was burying this country in debt? Even if the Dems controlled congress, the president (lil Dubya) had the power of the veto pin. Right? Right? That's the why it works. But whenever you are making so much money by saying; ...This War Will Pay for Itself or Deficits Don't Matter....you tend to forget what got us into the mess in the first place ...right?
Listen Caramon, I'm sure you are a faithful citizen of this country, but you are missing the boat to think that the GOP/Tea/Re-pub party is going to do anything in getting this country back on track.
Yet neither of you have been able to answer my very simple question. What makes you believe the Democratic websites are more honest than the republican websites other than your opinion. And, according to what Jean has said in the past, the President does not have veto power over a budget resolution nor does he even have to sign it. Either this is true for both republican and democratic presidents or it is not.
We now return to what I initially said. What I choose to believe is the only truth, as many on this sight believe.
YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T READ OR COMPREHEND WHAT REALITY IS THESE DAYS. YOU MUST GET A CHECK FROM
OB AND THINGS ARE GREAT–RIGHT-YOU MIGHT JUST HAVE THE GUTS TO GET A JOB AND FIND THAT YOU CAN
DO JUST FINE WITHOUT THE HELP OF OTHERS.
FYI Before I retired I had a job, and.BTW that job paid well.
First off.....A lot of people that work everyday (like me), voted for President Obama. In Fact, More people that work for a living voted for President Obama during the last two presidential Elections.
So you would be wise to leave the idea that only welfare recipients elected the president. Its simply not realistic and plausible.
That said, President Obama didn't make the mess...he's only the guy trying to clean it up. My dad was regular army for 30 years. I was obvious to every one of us, all my dad's family, President Obama has done more for this Nation's Veterans than any of his predecessors.
That said, what is the basis for your distaste for President Obama?
Libs will finally get it when milk is 8.00 a gallon and everyone making more than 25K will have their taxes raised (next week). Oh, of course the almost 50% who do not pay a penny in fed taxes will never get it.
McSkiddle, that line about telling us something over and over? I assume you are talking about Obama?
The hate from you libs to anyone who disagrees with you is telling. Most dems I know are OK and I do not hate libs, but I do hate what many libs are trying to do to this country in relation to thinking the government and working class people owe them something.
Obviously you do not understand simple arithmetic.....everyone including those who make a few thousand a year taxes will go up. Those who are retired taxes will go up on their savings. But regardless, I will pay my share when and if we go over the cliff...just to watch the GOP try to put that Genie back in the bottle.
The GOP tax cuts were the original problem which created the fiscal cliff. When George W.Bush lowered taxes to a level that would not sustain the operation of government without borrowing ourselves into oblivion.
So even though this may put in the position of choosing dog food for dinner or your medicine ... you still support it??
Billy -Forget dog food......The real problem is that the GOP members want to make SS cost of living increases use a chained CPI...in other words, the GOP wants old people to be the first on the list of those forced to eat soylent green. I doubt if people earning $250K will have that problem.
JUST GET OFF THE HATE THING. THE REST OF YOUR COMMENT IS GOOD-HATE IS NOT PART OF OUR LIVES AND
BE JUST A LITTLE MORE POSSITIVE. IT IS GOOD TO DISSAGREE BUT HATE WILL NEVER WORK.
You need to take a course in macro economics. Your comments like "libruls are aginst' Amurikah" crapola isn't scarying the intelligent folks. Only Faux News knuckle heads appreciate such idiocy.
Bottom line bammy is the pres its his job to lead and get things done. end of story, if he cant handle it than he shouldnt have run. Quote Ill be a one term pres if i dont cut deficet in half. !!! please quit blamming every thing under the sun on his poor performance
so then the republicans on then hill should fall in line and vote for his propsal
so you're saying we should just all think the same thing as you and be a one party system, how is that any different than china?
The problem is, whether you like it or not, that the Republicans in House and Senate were elected to represent the interests of their constituents, not the President's interests.
Since my previous comment is being moderated I will simply say this. Our elected officials represent the voters from their district. They do not represent the President. If they "fall in line" then they are not really doing their job as they were elected to do. Many people, myself included, want to see the balance in expense reduction. I have not yet seen it nor has anyone provided one. If the Republicans simply agree on tax increases, it will not reduce the deficit as it is intended to do.
Well put, i wouldnt have been as eloquant as you !!!
Caramon, every Democrat on here has said they can cut all the expense they want to in that bloated military budget.
Jean, on many occasions the President has PROMISED to eliminate earmarks. Has he done this, yes or no?
AT THIS POINT IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE PRESIDENT PROMISES TO ANYONE IF THE CONGRESS WILL NOT MOVE ON ANY SINGLE IMPORTANT ISSUE, EVEN ON A CRISIS THEY CREATED! EVEN LBJ WOULD HAVE NO CHANCE DEALING WITH THIS CONGRESS.
LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY LIE. AT THIS POINT, NOBODY LISTENS TO ANYONE ELSE ANYWAY. COME MONDAY, WE WILL ALL BE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING.
Caramon As far as I know no president has the line item veto for any spending legislation passed by Congress....and since the GOP has sat on its hands and whined continually because they lost two presidential elections during the last 4 + years most anything that addresses spending hasn't crossed his desk.
NOBODY LISTENS TO ANYONE ELSE ANYWAY
Absolute agreement. Look at the comments on this site where one side blames the other. Our representatives are no different.
THAT I CANNOT DISAGREE WITH YOU I AM AFRAID. WE USED TO BE A BIT MORE CIVIL BEFORE. I THINK THIS FISCAL CLIFF FIASCO IS TAKING ITS TOLL.
Maybe you and I should be in Congress. We may not generally agree. But I think we could work together and solve the issue.
So all you progressive libs... do you favor Harry Bellefonte's position??? That the President should jail GOP'ers?
WHO THE HELL IS HARRY BELAFONTE? THE GUY WHO SANG THE BANANA BOAT SONG? WHY IS HE SO IMPORTANT IN YOUR LIFE?
I WISH HIS OPINION IS ACTUALLY RELEVANT... WELL, ACTUALLY, MAYBE IT IS. SINCE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM BOTH SIDES ARE PERPETRATING WHAT SHOULD BE A CRIME ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN BY GOD THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL!
Caramon As far as I know no president has the line item veto for any spending legislation passed by Congress.
Then Jean, maybe he should not make promises he knows he cannot keep.
WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE WHAT 'BAMMIE' DOES AT THIS POINT? OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING HE DOES OR DOES NOT DO WILL RECEIVE YOUR CRITICISM. DOES IT MAKE TOTAL SENSE TO BLAME THE PRESIDENT WHEN CONGRESS REFUSES TO DO ITS JOB? DO YOU WANT THE PRESIDENT TO BECOME A DICTATOR AND TAKE OVER LEGISLATION???
OB ALWAYS LIES. WE JUST TRUSTY FOLKS THAT HAVE TO WAIT TO FIND IT OUT–TO LATE THOUGH. BEST
TO JUST FIGURE THAT ANYTHING HE SAYS IS LESS THAN TRUTHFUL. OUR NATIVE AMERICANS SAID IT BEST, THE
GREAT FATHER IN WASHINGTON SPEAKS WITH A FORKED TOUNGE.
@ Pappy...pretty pathetic analogy you have of President Obama. Calling him names when his title is "Leader of the Free World" is very childish and/or silly on your part.....says a lot about your character. But its always said, you can reason with ignorance.
Exactly caramon...that was perfect. A congressman from Oklahoma isn't doing their job by going along with Obama and voting with higher taxes. A Representative from my state of Massachusetts should vote that way.
EXCEPT NOTHING IS EVEN BEING PUT TO A VOTE! SUCH COWARDS!
Liberals are that indeed.. Some votes have already taken place in the house...
WHAT VOTES? CARE TO ENLIGHTEN US SOME MORE ON THIS NON-FACT?
YOUR POINT IS????????????
I think howard has changed his name . My be to Cameron or dan or pappy.
this red neck pappy is the newest member of the repo nut job s who post here. just listen to the crap they spout. Nothing to back up the stupid remarks they make over and over again. jerry what do you know about security risks? you dumb fart . Pappy sounds like he has 3 teeth in his head. He also sounds like he knows a lot about pansy boys himself. Not only a redneck but a bigot too. How unusual for a repo. Not I bettcha he takes his gun to church with him.
Yet, I will never use language like this toward anyone even when I disagree.
You seem to be contradicting yourself when you say that you would never use offensive language yet you call pappy a 3 toothed, gun obsessed Evangelical bigot and jerry a dumb fart
Marie, Caramon should know they are his best friends.
Marie and Jean, The entire paragraph was a direct quote from Judy. Look at the comments from the previous article. Jean, you of all people should know I don't talk like that.
By the way Jean, i know you commented on the previous article so you should have remembered those were Judy's words, not mine. Always willing to think the worst of those with conservative views.
Jean is a progressive liberal and as such she only remembers what is confienent for her argument at the time.
Caramon is a conservative???
Yes Marie, I am a conservative.
Hey look who signed himslef a new executive order this weekend lifting Federal Pay !?!?! Our leaders now get a raise
Federal pay raises, congressional pay raises do raise the VP's wage and wage for SCOTUS, but it does not affect the president's pay. The constitution states a president cannot receive a pay raise while he is in office. It can be raised for his successor, but not himself.
""The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them." U.S. Constitution – Presidential Salary Art. II, Clause. 7"
The President's salary, currently $400,000 a year, must remain constant throughout the President's term. The President may not receive other compensation from either the federal or any state government.
OF CIURSE HE JUST GAVE SS FOLKS A RAISE-SS GOT A RAISE IN TAXEABLE AND HE RAISED MEDICARE AS WELL, GIVE A LITTEL AND TAKE IT AWAY. SHADES OF MILITARY PAY RAISES,THEN TAKE AWAY A BENEFIT AND THE GI WINDS UP WTH LESS IN THE DEAL. POLITICS SUCKS.-----
Which shows just how little you actually know...maybe try reading the U.S. Constitution -Article II Clause 7
Which states: that a president's salary cannot be increased, or diminished while he is in office.
Providing you can read at that level?
Read Bob Woodward's book and you will find out how we got here (the sequester). The GOP proposed the sequester to raise the debt ceiling in 2011 when obama couldn't even work with his own party, in fact they (the negotiators from both parties) threw obama out of the meetings...and he stomped off like a spoiled brat, that he is. This is obama's baby and his failure to lead...in fact everything he has touched is an absolute mess. If not for the marxist press we have the voters would have run him out of this country on a rail. progressives+marxists.
progressives=marxists...so you idiot obama cool-aid drinkers call your selves what you are...marxists!
CONTROL OF HIS OWN PARTY? SO WHAT IS BOEHNER'S EXCUSE NOW SINCE HE ABSOLUTELY FAILED LEADING HS OWN PARTY? NOW THAT THE TABLES HAVE TURNED, WHO OWNS THE FISCAL CLIFF NOW?
THIS IS THE KIND OF REASONING THAT MAKES THIS DYSFUNCTION UTTERLY PATHETIC. YOU BLAME THE PRESIDENT FROM BEING UTTERLY HELPLESS BUT APPARENTLY HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO CANNOT HANDLE THE KIDDY POOL THAT CONGRESS HAS BECOME. NOW HE IS IN A POSITION TO JUST SIT BACK AND LET THEM DESTROY EACH OTHER, AND FRANKLY I DON'T BLAME HIM IF HE DID JUST THAT.
December, as much as I would like to argue in defense of Boehner, I really cannot. Although I feel he had a very difficult job bringing his party together, he was not able to do so. I don't like Pelosi. This is no secret. But she could always get her party together.
WHAT KILLS ME IS THEY DON'T EVEN BOTHER DOING THEIR WORK AND PUTTING THEIR PLANS TO A VOTE, BOTH SIDES ARE GUILTY OF NOT DOING THEIR JOBS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO COWARDLY TO ACCEPT THE BLAME FOR FAILURE.
Its kinda like this Dec... the conservative party still allows a difference of opinon... we still value a different point of view unlike you and your fellow progressives
THERE IS DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AND THERE IS POLITICAL COWARDICE. PUT IT TO A VOTE.
BOTH SIDES ARE GUILTY OF NOT DOING THEIR JOBS
Sorry Bill, on this I would have to agree. I believe our Congress shows the same disdain for the other side as we see so often on here. Today, it is more about scoring political points than doing what is best for the country. Throw out the earmarks, eliminate expensive vacations for the departments, no more free bottled water for Congress. This would add up to probably 75 to 100 billion in the next ten years. Both sides are guilty of this. And, consider some way to increase revenue, either by increasing taxes or eliminating loopholes in the tax code. They should all stop talking and start doing.
OB IS LIKE THE FOX IN THE CHICKEN COUP--HARDLY HELPLESS,JUST ON TRACK WITH HIS AGENDA.
the pic above: that career Marine looks like he has vomit in his mouth(he should)...someone needs to teach obama how to salute, he does however bow very well...like a good muslim.
JEEBUS JERRY, TRY NOT TO PROJECT YOUR PROPENSITIES ON OTHER PEOPLE. IT'S UTTERLY DISGUSTING.
He certainly looks uncomfortable....That Salute from the POTUS almost looks like it caused him pain!
HE LOOKS ALRIGHT TO ME. YOU SHOULD SEE THE GUY DUBYA SALUTED. HE COULD BARELY CONTAIN HIS EMBARRASSMENT.
im amazed an idiot like you can even read jerry. If anyone should vomit it should be all of us that have read your miserable posts. If its so bad go to some other country you sure don't know how to honor this one.
Jerry has a right to complain. Did you not complain when Bush was pres?
same old angry racist Judy.... Sorry, I find no reason to honor obama...especially after the filthy manipulative/lying and character assassination he used to get reelected. You can idolize him and drink his cool aid, for me no thanks...he is what he is a racist and a narcissistic marxist to the bone...you ignorant fool.
oh and...Judy, I'm a Marine combat veteran and I know a phony when I see one...and obama is a phony.
JERRY IS PROBABLY THE ONLY 'MARINE COMBAT VETERAN' HERE WHO READILY ADMITS TO 'THROWING UP INSIDE HIS MOUTH' FROM HIS UTTER HATRED OF OBAMA.
WHAT A PIECE OF WORK CALLING SOMEONE ELSE A PHONY.
Still imserting your vile thoughts at every turn dh??? You are a real piece of work Dec
MY THOUGHTS? NO, I JUST READ TOO MUCH JERRY THAN WHAT SHOULD BE LEGALLY ALLOWED.
JUDY JUDY JUDY-IT IS YOU THAT BELONGS IN A PLACE LIKE FRANCE WHERE YOU WOULD GET THE TAX YOU
So much for Obama's legendary negotiating skills.........
tell me one time he negotiated anything...it's been cram it down our throats legal moral or not! He is simply another african king...in his own mind.
NO OB DOES THE 2 STEP–HE SAYS HE IS SORRY FOR AMERICA TO OTHERS AND TURNS AROUND AND GIVES
MONEY TO HIS FREINDS AND CALLS IT A STIMULAS. GO FIGURE THIS GUY.
DEcember 2012....dont worry your sick head...the collectivists always win(you will get your way). Capitalism always ends in communism...you will get your way. History proves this point... now, your grandchildren will live dismal lives with little opportunity thanks to your selfishness and ignorance...you who utter your foolish posts in capital letters.
MORE CRAZY TALK FROM JERRY. YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR SHOW ON THE ROAD, YOU MIGHT JUST BE THE NEXT GLENN BECK.
WHILE YOU DO THAT, THE REST OF US WILL ACT LIKE GROWN UPS AND ACTUALLY WORK ON OUR PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF WHINING ABOUT IT.
Thats Funny Dec.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WORK on something???
IT MUST BE FUNNY TO YOU BECAUSE THE CONCEPT IS ALIEN. YES, PEOPLE DO ACTUALLY WORK OUT THEIR DIFFERENCES FOR THE SAKE OF PROGRESS. YOU SHOULD TRY IT SOMETIME.
JERRY YOU MUST BE ONE OF PUTIN'S PUPPYS.
He can negotiate, just not on a big scale... Which is unfortunate because it is a huge part of his job. He thought he was going to unite Washington in 2008. Instead he divided us farther.
He has never negotiated anything
NEGOTIATION MEANS YOU HAVE A WILLING PARTNER. WHEN THE OTHER GUY SAYS HE WANTS TO MAKE YOU A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT THEN THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL AND THANKFULLY, OBAMA CAN READ.
WHEN WILL REPUBLICANS START ACTING LIKE THEY ARE ALSO LITERATE NOW THAT OBAMA HAS BEEN RE-ELECTED? PROBABLY NEVER, TO THEIR OWN PERIL.
Negotiations require 2 willing partners ... so far the president only knows how to say NO
TRY TO REMAIN IN REALITY LIKE THE REST OF US. TELL US AGAIN WHAT IT IS THAT OBAMA HAS SAID 'NO' TO? THE BUSH TAX CUTS? EASING OF GUN CONTROLS? KEEPING GITMO OPEN?
IT TOOK A RE-ELECTION FOR OBAMA TO FINALLY SAY NO TO YOUR NONSENSE AND IT STILL WON'T STICK.
THE GOP, THE PARTY OF 'NO' IS ALSO CALLED THE 'STUPID PARTY' BY ITS OWN MEMBERS FOR GOOD REASON.
HE WAS ELECTED BY VOTERS HE PAID CASH MONEY TO. WE ALL ARE GOING TO PAY FOR HIS GENEROUSITY. WE
ARE SO GULLABLE. HE BREEDS DEPENDACY ON HELPLESS FOLKS AND REAPS THE REWARDS AT OUR TAX
EXPENCE. HE IS NOT DUMB-JUST ONE HELL OF A CON MAN. IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR HE WOULD GO TO JAIL FOR
THIS SORT OF THING.
WELL HELL, I VOTED FOR HIM AND I DIDN'T GET PAID. YOU MUST BE TALKING OUT OF YOUR AZZ AGAIN.
jerry you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat. You sure don't know anything if your a jar head a pretty sorry one at that. Like anyone believes that.
Once more an elegant example of progerssive disdain for anyont that thinks different than they do,
love the fact I am quotable. I think I captured the essence of pappy right down to the three teeth. As far as jerry and Frank well fart is to nice a term . Love the fact that when jerry can't find anything for a comeback he reverts to calling people racist.
and yet another example...
JUDY JUDY JUDY-YOU USE THE R WORD. THAT IS NOT GOOD. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. OB
WAS THE FIRST TO USE THE TERM 4 YEARS AGO TO BEGIN HIS GREAT DEVIDE THE NATION SCAM. YOU SHOULD
NOT BE PROPOGATING HIS MISTAKE. THINK OF ALL OF US AS ONE AND GET HATE OUT OF THE EQUATION AND OUT
OF ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. BE PART OF THE SOLUTION AND NOT THE PROBLEM.
JUDY JUDY JUDY–YOU ARE NOT QUOTABLE–YOU MAY BE THAT BUT ONLY IN YOUR OWN MIND. AS FAR AS FALLING OFF A BOAT,YOU MIGHT LIKE TO TO KNOW THAT JOHN KERRY ACTUALLY JUMPED OFF HIS BOAT TO
RUN DOWN A RETREATING VC. HE WAS NOT SMART ENOUGH TO THINK THAT HE WAS BEING LED INTO AN AMBUSH. FACT IS HE DESERTED HIS BOAT AND LEFT HIS CREW TO THEIR OWN DEVICES.. POINT IS HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN COURT MARTIALED FOR DESERTING HIS POST AS CAPT. BUT CRAP LIKE THA T ONLY GETS REWARED
BY THE DEMS??? WERE THE DEMS RUNNING THE SHOW IN VIETNAM? FOR A 'NAM VET' YOU SURE COME UP WITH SOME RIDICULOUS NOTIONS, SUCH AS CHALLENGING A REAL VIETNAM VETERAN'S SERVICE AND DISTINCTION.
DID YOU FAIL TO MENTION THAT HE CHASED AND KILLED AN ENEMY COMBATANT WHO WOULD HAVE FIRED AN RPG ON THEIR BOAT? OF COURSE YOU DID.
NAM VET MY AZZ.
as a matter of fact December... they were.... Highest USA losses happened under LBJ... He escalated the troops to an astronomical level during that time. You need to stop being an uninformed ID10T.... Do a little research before you let something stupid jum out of your mouth again!
I KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO STICK TO THE SUBJECT BUT DO TRY NOT TO MAKE A BIGGER AZZ OF YOURSELF. WHAT THE HELL DOES LBJ HAVE TO DO WITH KERRY? ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIES I BET.
SO US NAVY HAD A LIBERAL POLITICAL AGENDA FOR GIVING KERRY HIS MEDALS??? YOU HAVE SOME NERVE. WHAT UTTER GARBAGE. YOU DO KNOW THOSE MEDALS WERE GIVEN DURING HIS SERVICE, NOT AFTER WHEN HE BECAME AN ACTIVIST AGAINST THE WAR?
YOU KNOW 'SWIFT BOATING' IS SYNONYMOUS TO SMEAR CAMPAIGN FOR A VERY GOOD REASON. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE LYING TURDS SURFACE AGAIN WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE CONFIRMATION. OF COURSE THEY WON'T SHOW UP AGAIN BECAUSE DUBYA ALREADY PAID THEM TOO WELL.
NO RPG'S IN NAM WAR DIPSHIT–KERRY JUMPED SHIP AND LEFT HIS TROOPS AT RISK. HE WROTE ALL HIS OWN
MEDAL RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE DISPLEASURE OF HIGHER COMMAND. HE WAS A FAIRED HAIRED BOY AS WERE
MANY OTHERS THAT SERVED SO TO SPEAK. GET YOUR HEAD OUT FROM BEHIND. IT IS ALSO A NO NO TO SHOOT
YOUR FEET TO GET A PURPLE HEART AND HE HAD 2 OF THOSE AS WELL. YOU SHOULD ENLIST AND SERVE AS
IT WOULD DO YOU A LOT OF GOOD TO SEE THE WORLD AND LIFE AS IT IS. GLAD YOU MISSED THAT WAR,BUT ONE
IS WAITING FOR YOU AS IT HAS FOR US ALL. IF NOT ABROAD HERE AT HOME,GOD FORBID . GOD BE WITH YOU.
A 'NAM VET' TALKING UTTER NONSENSE. RPGS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE VIETNAM WAR. TRY NOT TO MAKE AN AZZ OF YOURSELF ANY FURTHER BECAUSE IT EMBARRASSES REAL VIETNAM WAR VETERANS.
IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DISPARAGE THE US NAVY COMMAND UNDER WHICH YOU CLAIMED TO HAVE SERVED THEN I SUGGEST YOU TAKE IT UP WITH THEM. NO AMOUNT OF SLANDER YOU SPEW OUT WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT KERRY SERVED HIS COUNTRY WITH DISTINCTION, AND YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER INTERNET TROLL.
I think it is fair to say Clinton was a better Sec. Of State than Kerry will be, and I didn't realize her concussion was so serious. Hope she gets well. She has served the country well, even though I disagree with some of her policies.
I DON'T LIKE KERRY EITHER BUT HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO GET BASHED FOR HIS MILITARY SERVICE BY A TROLL WHO CLAIMS TO BE A 'NAM VET' AND YET IS UTTERLY CLUELESS ABOUT THE VIETNAM WAR.
Will I get back any of the $40million from the Hawain vacation money on my tax refund?
NO YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED-–FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT,ITS ALL YOU GET ZERO,NADA,NOTHING-SORRY----------–BUT YOU WILL GET TO PAY FOR IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN---–
again with the Kerry lies. You are a real turd and you and the swift boat gang are a bunch of lier's trying to destroy a mans good reputation.
KERRY HAS A REPUTATION THAT DESERVES DESTROYING–IF IT WAS A GOOD REPUTATION JUST HOW GOOD WAS IT JUDY. DO YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON THAT TURD FOR US ALL .
and you giot that 40 million figure from where Frankie???
I know John Kerry well and have for years, as I have livedin MA for 40 years. you talk about Romney as a rich snob yet praise him when he is the epitome of rich snobs.
YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE 1ST TEA PARTY-40 YEARS,THAT MAKE S YOU A LIFER RIGHT.
Don't look like I missed too much. Just the usual hatred from the usual suspects (you know who you are)! While you guys are busy throwing darts at each other, don't forget to pack your parachutes! Oh BTW Happy New Years!
don't forget to pack your parachutes.
Oops, I accidentally filled it with lead while cleaning my gun. Can I borrow yours?
TO LATE GUY , YOU MIGHT PUT THE PIN BACK IN THE GRENADE THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON .
I hope this deal get worked out and soon! Should have never come to the last day! Just the way DC operates! Too much one upmanship, not enough working for the interest of this nation! Any agreement this late will have a lot of holes in it. Speaking of holes, yeah you can have my parachute!
Anytime, let's hope it is not needed! Happy Year and I hope 2013 is the year of the DC grownup! The truth is taxes will go up and spending HAS to come down! Other than that, anything else is a pipe dream and more for the politician than for the people!
True Dat! Happy New Year Steveo!
I appreciate that! Thanks
YOU DID NOT MISS A THING. YOU CAN GO BACK TO SLEEP AND HUG YOUR TEDDY BEAR.
Sadly, NAM VET, we are not talking about Teddy Bears but Tax Burdens. Big difference
STEVEO, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CALL NAM VET A TAX BURDEN. THAT'S JUST MEAN.
I HOPE Y'ALL ENJOY THE NEW YEAR.
Happy New Year December! Somebody is putting words in my mouth! I wonder whom that might be?
THAT'S 30 FOLKS-------–
My taxes are going to go up, we can't get a budget passed, we are facing a fiscal nightmare and the Feds get raises? Nice! Terrible signal to send out right now!
Hey December, If you are still online. Happy New Year!
THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU TOO.
no, NAM Vet....hahaha Can't stand Palin. I'm a USMC 1968-69 vet, so I got to suffer the consequences of another great leftist president, LBJ. Read some Ayn Rand and you will understand why these collectivists win in the end. Those who survive through taking from those who create are playing survival ball...while the others have more lofty motivations and ideals..human nature. Rand was a jew born in Russia and lived through the bolshevik take over of Russia, so she speaks from experience and a very keen mind to boot, she was never the less a flawed human, a complicated person and conflicted to some degree...but worth study. What is happening in America and europe mirrors what she spoke of...erie.
Ilook at most countries as a cycle in a way... Socialis m to Capitalism to Socialism again and it repeats (add communism for some or autocracies)- it has gone that way in most countries except the USA for now and a place like North Korea
Happy New Year in 3 hours!