Obama makes light of birth certificate on campaign trail
President Obama steps off Air Force One as he arrives in New York
April 27th, 2011
10:33 PM ET

Obama makes light of birth certificate on campaign trail

WASHINGTON (CNN)–Perhaps a subtle dig or not, President Obama seemed to take aim at Donald Trump on Wednesday evening in New York when he said the reasoning behind the release of his long form birth certificate was his “trying to remind the press and trying to remind both parties that what we do in politics is not a reality show. It’s serious.”

The remarks came the same day that Trump, the businessman, reality television personality and possible contender for the 2012 GOP nomination, said he was “proud” of his efforts, and took credit for the release of Obama’s long form birth certificate earlier in the day.

“Today was a fun day,” the president said as he began his remarks. “Nobody checked my ID at the door.”

Obama was speaking at the home of former New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine on Manhattan’s Upper East Side. It was the first of three fundraisers in New York Wednesday evening that a Democratic party official said could raise over $2 million for the DNC and Obama’s re-election campaign.

“My name is Barack Obama. I was born in Hawaii, I’m President of the United States, and I’m running for re-election” he later joked as he kicked off remarks at the second fundraiser at the Waldorf Astoria hotel before returning to his standard stump speech, and a defense of his administration’s record.

Obama’s remarks were interrupted at the third fundraiser by two sets of protestors, the second by the AIDS advocacy group ‘Act Up NY.’ The first group of protestors were quickly escorted out of the room, but as the second group was escorted out, Obama said they should be able to stay. “They made their point,” he said.

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  1. Jay in NC

    In 2004 the media insisted that damaging documents about President Bush's service were authentic. Just weeks before the election it was proven that they were faked. Dan Rather had to resign over the issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

    Last week CNN was telling us that the president's birth certificate is authentic, all before they had ever seen the darn thing. No document expert to verify, no computer expert to testify about the multi layered .pdf file. Just trust them, they know best, you are an idiot if you think otherwise. We have heard it all before.

    Do your self a favor. Take a look at the original .pdf that CNN released. Here is the link.

    Navigate to the website, then zoom into 300% or more, and notice there is white behind every word. Why is the green safety paper not visible behind the words? Also notice that some of the loops and O's have white back ground. As you zoom in and out the image draws the back ground then the letters as if it is in two parts. The foreground looks like it was knocked out by photo shop. Ask your self why, if this is a copy of the original, is it in two parts. If this was a scanned copy wouldn't it be a single image?

    Obviously this .pdf has been altered. You do not have to be a 'birther' to see that something is just not right.

    April 27, 2011 at 11:40 pm |
    • NextGen Guy

      When did racism get repackaged as a "conspiracy theory?" When has the Office of the President ever been so defamed & ridiculed, the way it has been, since being occupied by the first person of color? Maybe "conspiracy theory" is the new PC way of saying "you're all lazy" "baby making" "over sexed" and inferior intellectually and morally".

      Not sure which is the most insulting to my intelligence, which is the most racist. "Conspiracy theory" news editorials designed to massage the feelings of rich racist who has good relations with the "Blacks" or "conspiracy theorist" news reporters conducting a post presidential-election, vetting-process, on the qualifications of a legally elected President.

      Stop calling the KKK racist! They're just well meaning Americans that have a conspiracy theory about how people of color are trying to destroy their way of life. Oh o.k.

      April 27, 2011 at 11:59 pm |
      • Joepub

        When did conspiracy theories get repackaged as racism?

        May 12, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    • Nathan

      No need for the "analysis" Jay. Just admit that there is NOTHING they could release that would convince you. Every document would be a forgery, every witness a liar, every explanation somehow flawed. No whether that attitude makes you a 'birther' is less relevant than the fact that it makes you an irrational person.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:35 am |
    • Nellie Bly

      You're clearly not operating on all cylinders. You do realize that this is a document that's over 45 yrs old, don't you?

      April 28, 2011 at 7:58 am |
    • eh

      Your tinfoil hat needs adjusting.

      April 28, 2011 at 8:01 am |
    • twiddly

      Get a grip, you loony-tunes racist.
      The republican governor viewed "the actual document" and declared it authentic, but that's still not good enough for you.
      If YOU viewed it and declared it authentic, all the other birther nutjobs would say you were paid off or something.
      You will continue to spout this nonsense no matter what because you are ignorant and you are bigoted. You are pathetic.

      April 28, 2011 at 8:12 am |
      • Hardy Har Har

        Don't worry they'll be voting for another rich man that can hardly tie his own shoes, you just wait. Even someone who goes bankrupt with all the money in the world. Fantastic. Check please. People still don't get it. Hey morons, how are those tax cuts treating you? haha, its a raining jobs now isn't it? oh no.....it isn't? what happened?!?! wake up America.

        April 28, 2011 at 8:28 am |
      • Jay in NC

        The Republican Governor did not view the document, it was the former Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino. Get your facts correct before you post.

        April 28, 2011 at 9:17 am |
      • Bob

        Why did he wait so long before showed this fake paper

        April 28, 2011 at 10:18 am |
      • jimbaround

        Why do you say he is a racist? Is it possible to dislike Obama and not be racist?

        April 28, 2011 at 10:26 am |
      • Bob in Pa

        @ Twiddly
        Jay is correct. The gov passed on second hand info. It was seen and confirmed by someone else.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:30 am |
      • jimbaround

        The issue isn't whether or not he's a citizen... No one is refuting that... The issue is where he was born. If you are not born in the USA you cannot run for president. Just ask Arnold... or check the constitution.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:33 am |
      • Rob Johnson

        Yes, keep it straight. The Republican governor of Hawaii was the one who actually REMEMBERED OBAMA BEING BORN IN HAWAII. He knew Obama's parents apparently. It was the other Republican–they are in on the big Marxist/Muslim conspiracy now too, haven't you heard?–who actually saw the document.

        Nobody has ever produced a shred of evidence that Obama was born anywhere but the USA, and every bit of tangible evidence that exists points to him being born in Hawaii. The fact that people are still questioning this is ridiculous.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:00 am |
      • paulm5545

        Please. I am not a birther, and I really think Trump is a cartoon character, but just because someone doubts the president's location of birth or the validity of the birth certificate or doubts Obama's intelligence, does NOT make them racist. Some people just don't like the man and his policies. Some people are just goofy, but that does not make them racist. I do see, every once in awhile, an anti-Obama comment that could be construed as racist...but not very often. What I do see quite often, is people who criticize Obama labeled and dismissed as racist. You folks that throw the race card around every time someone criticizes Obama are beginning to sound like Sharpton and Jackson, and that ain't no compliment. Stop the madness.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
      • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

        Yes, and that director of public health was also a Republican. There was no reason for a Republican to lie about the birth certificate of a Democratic Presidential candidate. You guys have to get over the fact that a Black Family is living in the section of the White House that does not house the Servants' Quarters.

        April 28, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
      • Bob

        This is the same govenor who said the first "Cerfificate of live birth" which was issued, and proven to be fake, was the real thing.

        May 20, 2011 at 9:26 am |
    • AlanMc

      Notice EVERY character has white around it, even the preprinted section headings. It's just artifacts resulting from taking a scan of a color photocopy of the original document, then compressing it all down into a pdf.

      April 28, 2011 at 8:22 am |
    • Dave

      Good lord... It really doesn't matter to you whackos what Obama does in this situation. He could personally put you in a time machine and take you back to witness his birth and you still wouldn't buy it. In your eyes, he will never be a legitimate President and we all get that. Then again, it's so much easier for you deep thinkers to latch onto this simpleton garbage than to actually debate policy and issues.

      Now loosen your tinfoil hat and come up from your mother's basement for some fresh air.

      April 28, 2011 at 8:34 am |
    • Henry

      @Jay in NC,

      Listen Jay, if you are going to say something about anything, try to be original. Your words, almost verbatim came through another poster in another thread. You probably have not seen any of this, you merely pass on what you get from the spin meisters. In your case the racist Republican/Tea Party spin meisters. Do some work on your own and don't merely repackage something already published. Or at least give literary credit. d*umb *ss.

      April 28, 2011 at 8:48 am |
      • Jay in NC

        Go back, look at that post, it was probably me that made the comments.
        Have you looked at the .pdf for your self or are you just trusting CNN? Load the document, take a look, then make your comment.

        April 28, 2011 at 9:18 am |
      • Jay in NC

        Yesterday I posted about this at least twice. Each time a Liberal called me names, (like you did) however no one has taken a look at CNN's .pdf and said that I was wrong. Here are the links to the other post I made on this subject.

        If you want to think for yourself take a look at the CNN .pdf file. Here again is the link.

        April 28, 2011 at 9:29 am |
      • dtcpr

        @Jay in NYC- okay no one looked and had anything to say, I looked and I have do have something to say. If you notice it is not just the handwriting that has white around it, it is also the lines on the paper and the typeface that have white around it when you go to 300% I think you people all need to chill with the conspriacy theories and focus on finding a candidate for the GOP because right now it isn't looking to hot. And i will add I am not a big fan of Obama, i think he has made grevious mistakes in office but lets focus on real issues here like healthcare and the deficit and the fact that if we don't look inward our country will fall apart,

        April 28, 2011 at 11:00 am |
      • Dustin

        Jay, you have a little to learn about Photoshop, but I won't get into that. I loaded the picture and zoomed in and saw what you were referring to. Now I want you to take my advice: pull up another citizen's original birth document .pdf from Hawaii (you should be able to find this if you've researched as much as you are implying) and go through the same steps on Photoshop that you did with Obama's.

        See the very same marks you were blasting in your comments? Yeah, I thought so, because so do I. The exact same marks.

        Whether you or anyone else still believe this nonsense really doesn't matter anymore, because the people who matter have unanimously accepted this. I am looking forward to the networks' affair with this story to die. Case closed.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:31 am |
      • Jayd'ed in NC

        How does that old saying go....."You can't argue with stupid"

        April 28, 2011 at 11:39 am |
      • Rick

        I can just hear all those natives saying..."...gee I wonder what clan these white people are from....has anyone checked there info to make sure they belong here...'cause they certainly don't look like us at all".....give it up my "likeable friend".

        April 28, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
      • Imjustaguy


        Ok. I've taken your advise. Looked at the PDF and zoomed to 400%. Below are my findings.

        1. The background behind the letters is actually NOT white, it is green, just like the rest of the document. If you've ever used a typewriter on any type of security paper (which is what I do believe would be what happened), the impact of the letters on the paper will in fact damage the security ink on the paper.

        2. Unfortunately I was not able to reproduce your claim about the writing vs the background image when re-sizing back and fourth, so I can't speak to that part one way or the other.

        3. If you look, next to each entry, you can see the fading marks from where all entries were checked back in '61.

        So where does that leave us? I know that nothing I, or anyone else, tells you, you will not change your mind. But, looking at the PDF I would have to say that – in my opinion – it is authentic. Now, should I be proven wrong in the future, feel free to tell me "I told you so". Until then, I'll go with one of the basic principles of our justice system:

        "It's not up to the defendant (in this case the President) to prove that it is authentic, it is up to the prosecutor (in this
        cae you and all the other birthers) to prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that it isn't."

        April 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
      • JohnM

        Okay, the bottom line is anybody and I do mean anybody who still truely believes the psycobabble birthers lies are delusional racists, plain and simple. There is no other explanation! One side has presented all the proof necessary for sane people, that he was born in the United States of America. While the other side has not provided one iota of any kind of evidence proving he was not.

        April 28, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
      • Jay in NC

        @ Imjustaguy, thanks for giving it a try, there is one problem with your assessment. Back in 1961 the State of Hawaii did not use security paper for the birth certificates. Search for originals and you will see that the copies posted are black background white letters. No security paper. Therefore the 'white halo' is not from typing. Also the lines and signatures have the same problem. Again thank your for looking, so many people on here do not want to just take a look.

        May 6, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
      • Bob

        Hey, Jay in NY – To produce a copy of a document which is not online to begin with, you would use a copy machine or simply scan the document, save as a PDF file, and release it. Ther is absolutely no reason to use Photoshop unless you intend to alter the document. As for reality; – why would Obama's grandmother and sister both lie and state they were at his birth – in Kenya?

        May 20, 2011 at 9:36 am |
    • Paul

      Yes, Jay, you have to be a birther to spout the nonsense that you do.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:02 am |
    • johnny

      Wow, you are proof that birthers are a bunch fruit loops. Check yourselves into an asylum!

      April 28, 2011 at 9:12 am |
      • VAFred

        To quote a line from a great movie "The American President":

        How do you have patience for people who claim they love America, but clearly can't stand Americans?

        America has voted: Obama is our President! Treat him with DECENCY and RESPECT!! If not for America, at least do it for the eyes of the world!

        April 29, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
    • Mark Buck

      You are a fool, the scan is printed onto that paper. Why don't you go dress up like Benjamin Franklin and protest the govt' take over of your unemployment insurance.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    • rob

      Jay is right, the media ran with false documents with accusations against George Bush. They never vetted the documents before reporting them. Dan Rather had to resign and it took CBS years to recover.. In 2008 the NYT ran an unsubstantiated story on the front page accusing John McCain of an affair with a lobiest that was proven false just weks before the election. McCain was also made to prove he was born in the US because his father was stationed in Panama at the time of his birth. The double standard is STUNNING.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:39 am |
      • Bob

        Not if your a dumb lib

        April 28, 2011 at 10:20 am |
      • kuewa

        There is no double standard. President Obama's mother was a US Citizen. Therefore, even if you don't believe he was born on US soil, he is still a US citizen by the same criterion as McCain is a US citizen. The question for McCain was whether "natural born" requires birth on US soil, which is doubtful in his case since he was apparently born off-base in Panama. The similar question for Obama appears to be finally resolved except for people such as Jay in NC. In any case, birth on US soil is not specifically defined as a requirement for presidential office in the US Constitution.
        The Killian documents have never been proven to be forgeries although there is good evidence that at least some of them are. Many of the accusations contained in those documents are substantiated via other substantiated sources. Bush was clearly not an exemplary member of the armed services.
        McCain's alleged affair with a lobbyist has never been disproven, although the NYT should not have published unsubstantiated information.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:22 am |
      • Dean

        Yes, Dan Rather went after Bush and paid the price for his foolishness. However, trying to tie that with this issue is also foolishness. There were no government officials claiming that those Bush documents were official, but there are with Obama's birth documents. There are several government officials who have viewed the official document, and they have said that they are the ones to made a copy of it for Obama. Remember – this is an official copy, not the original document. No matter what tiny, microscopic little fragments of mistakes you might think you find in these documents, they have been certified as official by the relevant government officials in Hawaii – case closed.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:22 am |
      • Srm

        Yes, the double standard is stunning. Stunning that no heads will roll for stirring up this controversy. Dan Rather got fired because of Bush. Who will get fired for keeping this nonsense going. The fact that the birther issue was even entertained boggles my mind. Seriously, some unknown with a funny name, from an island state manages to slip past, The State Department, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, The Department of Homeland Security, Columbia University and Harvard Law School (I'm sure he just got charged out of state tuition) and become POTUS. SMH and dumb people.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • eric in DC/B'more

      Please stop reporting on this story. It is ridiculous. Donald Trump is a bafoon.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • PulTab

      there will never be enough proof for some idiots. those of us who aren't wearing tin foil hats will have to learn to just ignore people like you so our blood pressure does get out of control.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:57 am |
      • Ken

        lol... true

        April 28, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • Molerat

      Why don't you you just get over yourself? Go play dressup some more.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    • ARob

      If not for the faddish, trendy popularity of this ridiculous movement, even people like you would think this birther thing is ridiculous.

      Even the people who offer all kinds of pseudo-scientific garbage about how 9-11 was "an inside job" can see that this anti-Obama crusade is insane...and they think that steel has to melt in order for a building to fall down. :p

      Even the people who claim that the moon landing was faked, or that the Illuminati assassinated JFK, or that Martians started the Protestant Reformation, or that the Sphinx is 10 million years old...all of those wingnuts can see that this birth certificate nonsense is just that...nonsense.

      Normal people and fringies alike disregard the birther "controversy" as bunk...all except the birthers themselves, who are so desperate to discredit the president, they don't care if they have to accuse several respected institutions of higher learning, the state of Hawaii, and numerous private individuals and companies, claiming that they're all helping Obama lie.

      Please, let's all grow up and get to some serious issues, like the deficit and international relations.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:00 am |
    • lucianne

      You need to get a grip and learn to get along with people who don't look just like you. Fortunately, some of them have an education and know how to think clearly, which apparently you do not. Bush was kind of a screw-up until he stopped drinking. We all knew that and elected him anyway. Obama was black. We knew that and elected him anyway. Get over it, apparently you lost. Don't be a sore loser...

      April 28, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • Brian

      Obviously you know nothing about PDF's or computers or birth certificates or the medie. CNN has repeatedly attested to the fact that people from their organization have seen the actual COLB.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:07 am |
    • jim

      keep smoking it, jay ... you'll reach nirvana sooner or later.

      this has been researched by MANY nonpartisan organizations and EVERY SINGLE ONE has come up with the SAME conclusion. your president was born where he says he was born ... in hawaii.

      it's time you accepted facts.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:11 am |
      • Jay in NC

        I did not say he was not born here, I am only saying that the .pdf that CNN released is not a single image as you would expect. It has multiple layers. Take a look, what are you afraid of?

        April 28, 2011 at 10:15 am |
      • ellid

        Your statement about "multiple layers" proves only that you know nothing about Photoshop.

        The President was born in Hawaii. Deal with it or shut up.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:20 am |
      • reACTIONary

        Jay, do you know what a PDF file is? How it is made? And why? You are turly ignorant.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:27 am |
      • reACTIONary

        OMG!!! The web page has MANY WINDOWS!!! There are SEVERAL TABS presenting LOTS OF INFORMATION!!! Look at it for yourself!!!

        April 28, 2011 at 10:28 am |
      • Former Marine

        Oh, and jaydizzle, one more thing for you:


        See, when you're on a typewriter, and you make a mistake, there is no backspace key. So what you do is you fix that mistake with white-out, retype the letter, and move on from your crazy conspiracy theories because you're obviously someone that doesn't know enough about forging to even have an intelligent conversation about this. Then you finish the document.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:30 am |
      • Bubba

        Jay, I ain't your daddy so I ain't gonna explain it all to you. Xerox something with that safety layer and see what happens, ok? Then figure out why that is, ok? Then ask yourself how would you make a good copy of that for someone, ok?

        April 28, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
    • 21stCenturySLC

      @Jay in NC: Well, I LOOKED at the document, and zoomed in up to 600 and it looks okay to me. Yes, there is white around the words, but it is consistent through out the document, and if you look carefully, which of course you did, you can see the green background between some of the letters. My computer did not separate the image in two, the background, then the words.It downloaded and re loaded quickly and as a complete image. It must be something about your browser. Try again. ANd maybe then you can turn your attention to the budget or the war or the homeless.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    • geckopelli

      To paraphrase a child"s rhyme:

      Some go east
      Some go west
      But Jay crashed into the Coo-Coo's nest!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:18 am |
    • ellid

      Already did. Go crawl back under your rock, birther, and leave the grown ups alone.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:19 am |
    • aw

      And according to you, Jay, the black helicopters are on their way, 9/11 was an inside job, FEMA concentration camps exist, and your stash of firearms is SECONDS away from being confiscated.

      Get help. Seriously.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:21 am |
    • reACTIONary

      The PDF has been ALTERED!!! OMG!!!! (What an idiot.)

      April 28, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • MM

      Jay, I won't call you names, but you have to realize that most people just don't care. They care about paying bills and making a better life for their family. Trump and the birthers have just made a circus out of this issue. Most don't like or cannot handle the fact that the American President is from African American descent – they are RACIST!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • CB

      OK, Jay in NC...how many times have your scanned something? Just curious, because I scan a lot of documents for my genealogy research (birth certificates, death certificates, marriage certificates) and they don't look any different than this does. I always have a lot of white around the words. I applaud President Obama for releasing his long birth certificate to quell some of this silliness, but I doubt it will end, because people like you will always find something "suspicious."

      April 28, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • pazke

      Jay, I looked at the document and you are wrong. Is that what you wanted to hear? The "original" birth certificate will not leave the vault in Hawai'i. Any means by which we reproduce it is going to look like a reproduction because it is. Did you notice that the edge was curled? That's because the original is still bound in a journal with the other births from that week. The white halo around the letters is probably caused by software used to sharpen the image so it would be easier to read. There's no conspiracy, no one is trying to hide anything. Find something else to do with your time.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:35 am |
      • Jay in NC

        Thanks pazke, although I am sure we disagree on other issues at least we agreed that there is 'The white halo around the letters'. The questions still remain, why is the official stamp floating on a separate layer, should it not be 'on' the green safety paper?

        April 28, 2011 at 10:53 am |
      • Conspiracies abound

        Wow who honestly thought that releasing this document would deter the birthers? I mean come-on, from day 1 you could tell these people would use every dimension to ensure that there point remained valid (in their eyes, not ours). Forgery? psh i saw that coming from a mile away, even if obama took trump to look at the document, it wouldnt satisfy them.

        But who am i to judge? i believe in the conspiracy (the much more rationale one) that the Reagan Administration, not street hoodlums, were the ones to first manufacture and then later distribute Crack-cocaine into the Urban Ghettos. However i wait anxiously to be called an "idiot" by the same people who believe Obama was not born in the US.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:04 am |
      • aatami

        Jay in NC – Hey amigo, you need to take a step back, take a deep breath and realize that you are obsessing about an issue that has absolutely no merit. It seems that you have a lot of energy that could be better directed towards doing something positive for your community. As a professional, I would suggest seeing a mental health worker and perhaps getting on some medication that will allow you to participate in a more productive life. You are unbalanced.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:11 am |
      • Loan

        Look at block 20. Number "1" of 1961 looks funny.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
      • Sandy

        Your the voice of sanity!

        April 28, 2011 at 2:13 pm |
      • bystander

        official stamp is probably indented on the official copy/ or possibly a raised seal ... since the scanner is just getting a two-dimensional extract, the stamp looks a bit more off than the rest of the paper ... there is idiosyncrasies with copying/scanning/pdf conversion/etc/etc ... go blame the machines/the people who did the scanning/the pdf software engineers/etc/etc ... there is no idiosyncrasy as to the birth place of the president ... stop blaming him for any wrong doing or question his eligibility ... there are plenty of high powered organizations that don't want Obama in the office ... if they could have disproved anything, they would have done so already ... DOUBTING is not proving otherwise ... you may continue to doubt as you wish ...

        some people question why he didn't do this a long time ago ... well, he did it for the powers that had to vet him, both Democrats and Republicans ... just like any other candidate needed to ... he did not need to provide anything additional for the masses, and neither does any other candidate ... putting him on the spot for this long by Birthers and etc, is their wrongdoing, not his ...

        questioning the truth is never wrong ... but wanting the truth to be reproved by a methodology of your own liking, and not accepting other acceptable methods, well ... good luck with that ... and that's why the Birthers won't ever be satisfied ... they want to see what's in the vault ... and what's in the vault can only be accessed by state officials, not their own peoples ...

        April 28, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
      • Bubba

        Jay, try making a copy of something with a security layer. It won't reproduce correctly. Do you see what they did now?

        April 28, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
    • David

      Hi, Jay,

      The graphical "glitches" you're seeing that make you think the birth certificate has been altered aren't uncommon for pdfs. It's just an issue of how computers render graphics. I do graphical design for a living, so I see this pretty regularly. The "zooming test" you're using isn't an accurate judge of the veracity of the image.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:36 am |
    • Joshua Ludd

      So, remind me again... what was the original reason to doubt Obama's citizenship? What evidence was there to indicate he was not born in the US?

      April 28, 2011 at 10:45 am |
      • Ch1108


        April 28, 2011 at 11:10 am |
      • The Kettle

        cuz he's black, and his name doesn't sound like mine. so we better check to make sure he from here.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:26 am |
      • Mr Rational

        Of course there was good reason to question his citizenship...he's got a funny name. That, and he comes from a weird place, Hawaii, which we all know isn't part of "real" America.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:39 am |
      • kica

        The color of his skin coupled with the fact that his obviously very intelligent. It freaked "them" out.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:25 pm |
      • kica

        oops, that should read "he is..."

        April 28, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
      • sunsohot

        Oh Joshua! The best post of all...you made my day!

        April 28, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
      • IsItOver

        Well, there's the youtbe video (that anyone can look up) of his grandmother saying that he was born in Kenya, for starters.... There's also the question about how he got into Indonesia with dual citizenship, which wasn't allowed at the time (did he revoke his US citizenship?)

        April 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
      • Cimmarron

        Actually Joshua, Hillary Clinton's campaign started this whole thing

        April 28, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
      • Mike'sOpinion

        the only evidence 'they" cared about was that he was not a White Conservative Republican. We wouldn't be having this discussion if he was.

        April 28, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
      • missy

        because he is black and he is the President, and he may actually be able to do some of the clean-up of the mess Bush made. People are so uncomfortable with that. It's such a shame. It's so sad. Donald Trump is sad for thinking he has accomplished something. that's all there is too it

        April 28, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
    • NoGOP2012

      So what do you think Jay, they had PDF's in 1961? You are scrutinizing a PDF conversion of an image. The questionable things you are seeing are the results of that conversion. GET A LIFE! WORRY ABOUT HOW THE CORPERATIONS OF THIS COUNTRY ARE STEALING ALL OF US BLIND!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:45 am |
    • John

      You should lay off the Ru$h, Coulter, Hannity, Beck, ......,
      Also, if you recall, yes the Bush document was a fake however it's content was widely thought to be accurate.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:46 am |
    • Nate

      John Kerry lost the 2004 election on the backs of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, a group that had no actual evidence backing their claims that Kerry was a poor soldier and a coward. Regardless, none of the mainstream media took the obviously partisan group to task for claims that could not be verified (and despite the irony that GWB had to call in favors to get put in the National Guard instead of being drafted to Vietnam with the lower income youths of his generation). This happens every year, not just to Democrats but to Republicans as well–the media doesn't always do a good job.

      In fact, way too much attention has been placed by the media on Trump/Palin/birthers who have absolutely no evidence of their claims. Show me the birth certificate from Africa that said he was born there–seems like a reasonable request for a group that had no qualms stepping on personal and civil privacy rights to satiate their conspiracy-lust.

      Oh, and as a graphic designer I can tell you–all the "issues" you've seen with the birth certificate can be chalked up to pixilation (putting it in PDF format requires that it's scanned, and it was obviously done by a scanner without real-life resolution) and the fact that typewriters produce slightly raised letters and numbers. Conversely, it seems you are claiming that the President had someone create a new CLB without using the actual template for the document (you can clearly see that the "white lines" affect not only the entered part but the printed formatting of the document itself).

      You may be a reasonable person, but you are acting irrational right now–and providing fodder to the majority of Americans who knew that validating the discussion of our President's true nationality by providing the document would not assuage the sociopathic wing-nuts who brought the discussion to the fore.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:47 am |
    • frink

      I wont believe until I have had a chance to get a good look at the placenta.

      If you want to continue to look retarded then keep it up, its working.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • SNAPPA

      Donald Trump is nothing more than a moron, the birthers are nothing more than losers. This whole issue is nothing more than bigotry hidden behind a cause. Its about a mans name and his skin color nothing more. Now that the president has released the long form of his birth certificate they are switching focus to his education. IT DOESN" MATTER, he is the president and his education is irrelevant. Most of the founding fathers never went to school and most taught themselves including the greatest president Abraham Lincoln. These people need to get a life and move on.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • pete

      this is hilarious. the entire "sane world" is laughing at you. you are now officially the "idiot fringe". although i'm guessing you are used to it. keep your eyes open. i think the ghost of ted kennedy has been following you.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:01 am |
    • Dean Sellers

      The point that Jay made about the PDF being fishy is true, and it should be conceded. You don't even have to scrutinize the letters to see it – the "safety" pattern extends beyond the borders of the page. It doesn't mean the document is fake though – It seems clear that the actual document was superimposed on top of some safety paper image, which is a ridiculous thing to do (since it gives Jay and other birthers yet another toe-hold.)

      It's a well-known fact that people will believe what they want to, no matter what the facts are. For example, there are lots of people who don't believe that we went to the moon. Jay and his friends will never be convinced, because they don't want to be.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • greg

      hahahhahahahahahahhaahahah, you sir, are an idiot lol

      April 28, 2011 at 11:09 am |
      • greg

        referring to Jay in NC, its a reproduction, move on, he will be our president till 2012 and if the best republicans can do is donald trump, he will most likely be in there for 4 more years. Enjoy

        April 28, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • chutchin

      Poor, poor things. I knew that even if the birth certificate was provided, the addled brained birthers would still say it is fake. I find it ridiculous that the IQ level in this country has gone this far down. I also find it shameful. Apparently, there are a WHOLE lot of people with nothing else to do or too much time on their hands. Unbelievable.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • Soporifix

      What's "not right" is the tiny thing in your head you call a brain.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • James

      Some say Jesus is a fake, some like Glen Beck and his kind will find a conspiracy under every rock!

      April 28, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • bigmowma

      I consider myself an Independent, but close examination of the document reveals it's obviously created to fool a lot of people, which it has. It's unfortunate that whoever released this document thinks we are that inept and we wouldn't look into it at all. I am not racist...I'm just sick of being lied to.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • Christine

      "You do not have to be a 'birther' to see that something is just not right"

      Do you not think that Obama was vetted by CIA, FBI, Secret Service and everyone else under the sun? Unfortunately, no amount of 'evidence' is going to convince you people, nothing short of you being in the delivery room at the same time with him popping out with OBAMA tattooted on his forehead. Let it go, just let it go.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • mkjp

      1. On my computer as I zoom in and out on the pdf, it draws everything in the same instant. If my internet connection was slower, I might see what you claim to see about the background appearing and there being a lag for the letters to appear. But it is also possible that when a pdf loads slowly it acts in that manner regardless of actual layers being present in the file. I am not sure as I am no expert on pdfs. And I have my doubts that you are that expert.

      2. The media has an overwhelming tendency to run with things they get before authenticating them or really checking them out thoroughly. So if someone finds this document to be fake, perhaps someone else will lose their job over it. However note that certain people on certain networks can spout whatever lies they want and are never held accountable. Double standard much?

      3. I really want to know why you feel you are so important that Barack Obama should obtain the original long form birth certificate and hand deliver it to your house for your inspection. No one asked this of any other president in history, so why now? Why did we all trust everyone else but not this man? Because his father is Kenyan? Because he had a worldly upbringing by living in various countries other than the US? This is a positive thing because it gives him unique insight. So I'm sorry, but the only thing I am coming up with is his skin color. So what is the actual reason?

      April 28, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • Former Marine

      OK, I call this the common sense test. If you can still make your claim with a straight face after applying an ounce of common sense to the issue, you may have something. Here goes:

      President Obama is President of the United states. He has access to the brightest people in the world. He has access to the BEST intelligence agencies in the world. And if he really, really, really, wanted to, he could have access to any federal prisoner in the world, and have it kept secret. Somewhere in those groups you would find one of, if not the, best FORGER in the world. You contention is that with all of those resources at hand, he passed this off to some secretary that forged is so BADLY, that some idiotic moron (you) could discern this, and disprove the document based on a relatively poor scaled-down image based on a picture of a copy of the original.

      Because it's either that, or it's a fifty year-old document that was written with a typewriter:


      Of course it can't be that. Because as we all know, in the early 60's they had much more accurate technology then we do now.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:24 am |

      Jay, be for real and think how insane that sounds. Think about it, and the year we are talking about 1961 not acceptable or popular then to have a baby of different race. Who would back then alter a birth certificate. Tell you what locate the type writter, ribbon and brand of device that was used to key in the info on the birth certificate. Matter of fact locate yours and scan it and see what appears in the zone and inzone. You are too funny.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:26 am |
      • Jay in NC

        I did not say that back then someone altered a birth certificate. I am not saying that the president was not born in Hawaii. I am saying that this .pdf that CNN released has multi layers. The image of the certificate, official stamp, and the green safety paper are separate. Don't believe me? Take a look for yourself. Why would CNN release a document that obviously has security issues.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • Cynthia

      And you don't have to be a genius to see something is wrong with your brain.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • closetiguana

      Obviously you need to keep taking your meds.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • Weka

      I would like to thank Jay for taking time out from watching Celebrity Apprentice and Palin's Alaska to weigh in on this critical issue. Fingers crossed Snooki announces the formation of an exploratory committee and a run for the 2012 GOP nomination.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • rachel

      Jay – the "layer" conspiracy began to explode (and was simultaneously debunked) last night after the release of the long-form certificate.

      Adobe (as well as virtually all new scanners) uses something called "OCR" technology. It's a default setting, and it results in your document being "auto-layered" as the document is searched for text, numbers, characters, punctuation, etc. Everything OCR finds, it puts on an independent layer.

      I see you noticed the white "halo" around the letters. If this were a document that had been created from scratch in Photoshop or any other image software (meaning it's a forgery), then those white halos wouldn't exist. They're there because if you "hide" the layers right now, your image-editing software won't know what to put in the place where the text should be. Having a whited-out area is the default response for the computer saying, "I don't know what goes here..."

      If the document were indeed a forgery, you'd have one of two things: 1) a consistent green background WITH layers that make the text disappear OR 2) a flattened image (no layers) with inconsistency in the text. The fact that the white halos are there only solidify and prove that the BC is, in fact, real. Someone forgot to uncheck the "OCR" setting on the scanner or in Adobe when scanning the certificate in.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:37 am |
      • rachel

        There were more than a dozen people copying the process on YouTube last night by scanning a variety of items – pages from a textbook, a grocery list, etc. The OCR + white halos happened each and every time.

        April 28, 2011 at 11:39 am |
    • Nina

      Jay, this issue has been dead for years...just move on

      April 28, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • mikeyd74

      youre an idiot jay... the background is green and white so you will get some white behind the words. even zoomed in at 300%. if youre all hellbent on finding something wrong, your mind will trick you into seeing it. so why dont you just take a few days off from work, turn the t.v. off, turn off rush and sean, and just relax.

      btw, reynolds called, they want their tin foil back

      April 28, 2011 at 11:43 am |
    • MominMO

      @Jay – I don't usually reply to boards, but when you are looking at documents on-line, you are looking at digital images. As you "enlarge" the image, you will get distortion because of pixel size. I don't see that as evidence of anything, other that the limits of technology.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • tekstep1

      Have you ever made a pdf of an image before? Adobe automatically layers colors and lines, ofetn creating small imperfections in the photo. Until you see the ACTUAL document in your hand, then you cannot call the BC a fake with ANY authority. You fail.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:51 am |
    • ellz

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, and there are aliens in area 51, the CIA killed Kennedy and 4, 8 or 12 (depending on your favorite theory) guys run the entire world from behind a green curtain.

      The saddest part of all of this is that, for most it is not even racism, it is rather, a very sad pathetic attempt to make "the bad guys" responsible for every bad thing they can think of instead of taking responsibilty for their own lives and to get out of any sort of true civic duty with the excuse that it does no good because "the bad guys" all make all of our decisions for us.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • indydave

      I work with scanning and PDFs professionally. One function of advanced Adobe products is that they'll do optical character recognition on graphical scans. When that function is invoked, it adds a layer to the PDF. It may also place text characters over the top of the parts of the graphic making up the original scan, and may automatically make other graphical adjustments to enhance readability, accounting for the additional white behind some characters. Any blather about those cahracteristics indicating fraud is just another baseless conspiracy theory. One would productively question WHY certain people WANT to believe such tripe.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • Haha

      It's been a long time since we've been able to genuinely and heartily laugh out loud at people with impunity. We should cherish this moment and thank you, Jay, and other birthers, tea party members, and ignoramuses like you for providing it. If anyone wants a good laugh, just watch a post long form clip of Trump trying to convince people he is not the biggest fool walking the earth. Absolutely hilarious. The only people we should feel sorry for are his kids.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
    • FaTeke

      Lets sort some things out.

      In 2004 the media did NOT insist damaging documents about President Bush were fact. CBS evening news did.
      Big difference.
      And comparing that incident with this is like comparing apples to race cars. It doesn't work.

      Last week CNN reported on exhaustive months long, in-depth research into this non-issue, they came back and gave the facts as they found them, and concluded, based on facts mind you, that there was no stink in this issue.
      This is what reporters are supposed to do, research and report on facts, sorry the facts didn't support your side of the issue.

      I have "done myself a favor" and had a look at the link you provided. Every single letter on the entire form has that white shadow underneath it. Included the standard type, not just the answers, which would indeed be suspicious. However, until you obtain a piece of that same paper, with the same background, scan it and turn it into a .pdf you really don't have anything to argue about. If you can do that, and the letters don't come out the same way, then maybe you have something to look at, maybe. And also, ask yourself this little question; if the President of the United States was going to FAKE his own birth certificate, don't you think his people would have done a much better job? Don't you think his birth certificate would have been picture perfect? The fact that this document is NOT picture perfect, for me, proves its legitimacy.

      But besides all of this, the mere fact that his mother is a United States Citizen is all you need to know. That means that no matter where she actually gave birth he is a natural born citizen. Just like John McCain.

      I know, I know, for some of you out there that's just too much to swallow, more "facts" to get in the way of your hatred and mistrust.

      So sorry for that.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
    • jstolpe


      April 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
    • Rolo

      I believe your time may be best served by moving on to more productive issues facing our country rather than racial identity sentiments and out right racism.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
    • Mary

      The president may be joking now, but when the issue is raised about his dual citizenship and not being a "natural born citizen" his smiles will turn to cries. Look it up, do your own due diligence and you may learn something about our constitution.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
      • ??Really??

        Another idiot-birther-racist crawls out from under a rock, spews some crap, and slides back into hiding. The truth is, people like Jay and Mary who question the legitamacy of the President's birthplace, religion, citizenship, education credentials, etc., just can't allow themselves to accept the fact that a black man was elected POTUS. Call it bigotry, call it racism; whatever, I don't care! I'm a white Republican and find these conspiracy nuts offensive, divisive, and disruptive.

        The President is black! Great googly-moogly! Whatever shall we do?!?! Can't have that, can we?

        If any of you birther/racist/conspiracy nuts will post your address, I'll send a life-time supply of tin foil (but I'll secretly rub it on a black guy first).

        May 5, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • Wee Todd Did

      Thanks Jay! For a minute there I thought that facts and truth would actually end this ridiculous conspiracy theory but you have managed to find a conspiracy theory behind the conspiracy theory! You are a first rate TOOL and I will be sure to pass along your bat guano crazy rantings to all my Democratic friends come election time, saying "Jay is voting, are you?" You should be good for about 10,000 votes for Obama all by your crazy azz self.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • jstolpe

      racist idiot

      April 28, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    • James

      You probably better get Trump to investigate the entire state of Hawaii. Anyone who eats that much Spam cannot be trusted.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • Marley

      @Jay in NC

      You realize the PDF is an electronic COPY of the original birth certificate right? A electronic device scans the birth certificate into a digital image used to create a PDF. So of course it is not going to look "exactly" like the original! Dummy!

      Secondly, Obama has already proven his birth and citizen with the release of CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH in 2008. That is the "only" LEGAL DOCUMENT issued and recognized by the state of Hawaii. The original birth certificate is NOT a legal document of birth. To obtain the original birth certificate requires a special WAIVER. If Obama was not President, he may not have gotten that special waiver to retrieve is birth certificate.

      Prior to Obama releasing the birth certificate yesterday, many politicians from both parties and private investigators have already reviewed the birth certificate 2 years ago!

      Why does Obama have to take extra measures to prove that he was a naturalized citizen?!

      Even if Obama was not born in Hawaii, Obama's mother is a naturalized citizen! John McCain was not even born in the USA! But nobody makes a big fuss about his birth certificate. Nor does anybody care about any other past President's birth certificate.

      The Birther conspiracy is CODED RACISM. It is a way to call Obama the N-word without saying it.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
    • Fidgetwidget

      Jay, you really need some training in computer forensics. That said, you also need to read the letters that accompanied the certificate. It is, in fact, a reproduction of the original which remains in Hawaii. The reproduction is a sworn, notarized copy. The releasing agent is Loretta Fuddy, Director of Health, State of Hawaii, Department of Health, and you need to read her letter. Please do your research.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • Jake

      Jay, you've got them by the balls, don't let go, squeeze until they beg for mercy. There is most certainly something amiss with the PDF for all the reasons you pointed out. My guess is that some asshat in the White House added the green "safety paper" to try and thwart any tampering with the document... all they did was prove that someone has tampered with the document and thereby cast into doubt the entire document... as so much of the Obama administration this is just another example of their ineptness.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
      • 19USMC88

        Are you and Jay from Kentucky and cousins from the same mother?

        April 28, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
    • R-F

      Jay in NC- you are insane if you actually believe the b.s. you write- get a life-

      April 28, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • ahetch

      As I've said before, no amount of evidence will be enough for the mentally disturbed birthers. They have their agenda and they will spew their venom forever.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • Ned

      Jay, go put your tinfoil hat on.

      You people are getting annoying.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • Joefrombuffalo

      Two days after the Bush documsnts were releases, they were retracted, and the issue went away. that is no where near the birthers' obsessive – compulsive pursuit of their psychotic claims

      April 28, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
    • Joefrombuffalo

      where do you carck-pots get your material. is there some web site that you all subscribe to? or do space aliens implant these thoughts directly into your brains?

      April 28, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • Marcus Ratner

      Jay in NC. I appreciate your careful look at the birth certificate. I analyzed the long form birth certificate using software designed to look for doctored images. I found that there is nothing doctored about this image.

      Jake, why have different standards for this president regarding transcripts, medical records, etc, than all the past presidents in American history? Many of the things you mentioned are already freely available. Why not argue against his presidency based on the merits of his accomplishments (or lack of accomplishments)?

      April 28, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • rahul

      what is more likely:

      Massive government conspiracy to hide the president's origins, prevent the media from covering it, forge and fake documents to prove it, implicating hundreds in hiding a ridiculous truth


      the president was born in the US.

      occam's razor – learn it, live it. The amount of people who continue to claim suspicion around the president's origins make me weep for the intellectual future of this country. Do the rest of us a favor and please, don't have kids.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • Sam

      twiddly's right...you are a racist and you need to get a grip. And your "facts" are merely statements of opinion. You seem to forget that the Director of the Department of Vital Statistics as well as the past and present governors of the State of Hawaii have all attested to the validity of the birth certificate. Furthermore, please try to explain how the birth announcement ended up in the Honolulu Advertiser. People who worked for the paper during that time period have stated that birth announcements were accepted only from the hospital. How do you contradict that one Gilligan?

      April 28, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • maine liberal

      the copy is only as good as the hardware, the copy is only as good as the software rendering.

      you can zoom into the pel level and see lots of white space . it means nothing

      April 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • P. Gold

      Jay in NC – You obviously don't have a job, because you have too much time on your hands to be micro-examining the President's Birth Certificate to such an extent. You are obviously one of those folks that the President was talking about yesterday during his press that no matter what he shows or says you won't believe. YOU ARE JUST A HATER/BIRTHER extrodinaire!!!!

      April 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • Graybeard

      Dude, your "white space" issue is just what happens when you increase resolution beyond what the picture was taken in. In normal "focus" it looks right, but when you start to blow it up to 300%, you allow the white space to enter the picture. Take a picture of your parents, turn it into a .pdf, blow it up to 300% and see if you don't find the same kind of thing happening. Are they, therefore, fake?

      April 28, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • slipthalo

      What I find amazing is the fact no one has ever doubted his mother being a 'natural born' citizen – she gave birth to him which if nothing else, should be proof enough. I do believe his birth certificate or certificate of live birth is legitimate but also know there are far too many idjits out there who would only confirm it if they had been present at his birth......

      April 28, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
      • Retired Army


        Back in 1961 Obama's mom could NOT confer citizenship to him because she was too young. That's why this whole 'question' has come into play and festered for so long.

        Ms Dunham was 18 when Obama was born.....she'd have had to be at least 19 (back in 1961) to confer citizenship to her son IF he were born out of the country.

        Now.....when someone is able to produce passport evidence that Ms Dunham left the country before Obama was born and didn't return until AFTER he was born, they may have something. Otherwise.....the birthers need to have a 'Coke and a Smile' and STFU.

        In my humble opinion, of course.

        April 28, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    • common thinking

      you have the facts! and liberals hate that.....see they don't responde to your argument...they just want to defend what cannot be defended.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
      • ??Really??

        What facts are you referring to? The fact that CNN posted a PDF of a scan of a copy of a 50 year old document that, to the untrained eye, might appear to be fake? Or, the fact that you birthers are just racists that are afraid to admit you're just racists?

        What's worse than a racist? A cowardly racist!

        May 5, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • John Sharp

      You are an idiot. Simply acknowledge that you were wrong and then quietly go back to your non-existent life.
      This kind of denial is embarrassing.
      You requested the document, you were given it.
      When it became obvious to you and your birther brethren that you are actually the idiots we told you that you were all along.
      You took the only course of action you could, you denied its validity. This way you don't have to face the shame of what we knew the entire time, that you are an idiot.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
    • John Sharp

      I hope you get the help you need.
      The earth is not flat.
      We did land on the moon.
      Our current President was born in the U.S.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • Justin


      You're an idiot and richly deserved to be mocked by the President and everyone else. As someone who's known a lot of stupid people in his life, believe me when I say you are very, very, very stupid.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
    • Sandy

      Your something else...no matter what proof you people get it is because he is Black period. Just remember half of him is white and there are many, many, uses for duct tape. Putting over ones mouth comes to mind! He is our president and will be our president again, GET used to it!!!!!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
    • Terra Saylor

      Jay, you do realize that OCR software is used to render images like that, right? What happens is you place the document onto the scanner, and the scanner has to be able to snapshot a readable image which is then processed and converted to PDF by software.

      Maybe the problem was saving it as a PDF as opposed to an actual image. The format is what causes the document to appear like that, not that the document was faked or photoshopped. Besides, what makes you think that photoshop would leave that white space? In fact, it would probably look a lot cleaner.

      No, that's a genuine document. And frankly, we all have better things to worry about than this. Please stop being part of the problem and become part of the solution.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • Jim


      There are white halos around all the black object, including the bars consisting of the boxes. If you would like to know how this happens, please look up how a scanner works as well as the algorithms used to generate the image.

      As far as editing the document the only thing that stands out to me is that some of the letters have been darkened for better contrast. The rest looks like imaging artifacts of the scanner. Take a good look at the straight bars of the patterns in the paper. It is far from a high resolution reproduction.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • T

      You sound like a fool, oh by the way the sky is falling (take cover)

      April 28, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
    • annie s

      Lordy, lordy, the idiots are still out there. I guess it's true – you can't fix stupid.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
      • Retired Army

        Very true Annir.....you can't fix stupid, no matter what kind of proof you provide.

        Stupid people just can't help themselves.....no matter what.

        "Stupid is as Stupid does".

        April 28, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
    • 19USMC88

      Jay in NC: You Sir, are an idiot!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
    • Dave

      hey jay, scan your birth certificate and do the same thing. you will be shocked at what you find. or look at other watermarked scanned pdfs out there in googleville. wow!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
    • Aeromechanic.

      Dude, slow down. You can get committed for being a hazard to yourself.

      Get over it. Do you really think the FBI, NSA, CIA or whomever didn't thoroughly check out Obama PRIOR to him getting on the ballot in the first place?

      April 28, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • me

      Hey Jay,

      You do make some good arguments regarding the white background around the words in the pdf:

      However, there is also white behind every vertical line, every horizontal line, every box, just about everything that is black. I do not believe this is evidence of pdf tampering. I believe that when something is scanned there is just a white halo around black words and lines. It is difficult to believe that the US government would release an obviously tampered document.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
    • eddhur

      jay in nc every time you say anything that the Dem. left} don't like or don't agree with you are going to be call every name in the book that all they no how to do

      April 28, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
    • Chad

      Hey Jay from NC, did you know that if you pkay hey Jude backwards by the beatles the record says Paul is dead? Isn't it funny that Paul is one of the two surviving beatles? Did you know that there is a radiation ring between the earth and moon, and anything that goes through it would be killed? How did we land on the moon. If you zoom you computer to 300% type in Conspiracies, the O in google will be the only thing you see? That is because Google is bent on world Domination? Also my toast had the face of Charlie sheen on it this morning, my toast has predicted the last 4 presidents? Explain that one....

      April 28, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
    • Love or Hate Me

      Who believes things they read on Wikipedia? Seriously? You are stating that something could be fake from a website that anyone can manipulate (means it can be fake)? SMH. Wow Jay in NC

      May 3, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • ??Really??

      I just took a look at a scan of the original Constitution and I believe it to be 100% genuine, especially the part about the President having to be born in the USA. Clearly, its original can certainly verified by the marginal note that says, "We should put something in here about blacks not being allowed to be President. Because if a black man ever gets to be President, some will surely question his legitamacy just because he's black and that might be disruptive to actual governing." And, on the back, where Franklin wrote the name and phone number of that French hooker, it really looks like he wrote it! I'm no expert, but this tin-foil hat on my head qualifies to declare the document to be genuine.

      May 5, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • TRH

      Jay in NC, take a class in digital imagery. What you are describing (the white areas around the text) is clearly just a sloppy unprofessional scan to pdf. It's easy to duplicate this mistake. And it leads zero credibility to your argument that the document was forged in any way.

      May 10, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • smdahl

      I don't care where Obama was born but the image on the white house web site is altered. Jay appears to be correct about the security hashmarks at the left hand edge of the page: the hasmarks cannot be on the paper b/c they do not bend with the paper. NowI still don't care where he was born but this corporate spokesmodel warmonger has no right to post falsified official documents on taxpayer funded websites.

      May 11, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
    • MsJedi

      All I have to say is who checked George Bush's birth certificate to see if he was born in the USA? Did anyone check Bill Clinton's? Or even Jesse Jackson's? No, they did not. And the reason is because George and Bill were both white men and Jesse Jackson didn't become president. It is ridiculous all of the racism that is being displayed. Anyone's birth can be questioned simply because America is known as the "melting pot" for many nationalities, yet it is only a question for the black President. People are simply sad and ridiculous and you need to get over yourselves. Show your own birth certificates to the world first!

      May 15, 2011 at 2:42 am |
    • Grim Reaper

      Ya da, ya da ya da, The Theater burns while everyone yells and screams who is to blame.
      Wake up America, you are in a war with Plutocracy, Egotists, Power Hungry mini dictators, Special Interests Groups, Hitler-wanabees in Government, hateful chaos people.
      And they are winning the war, while we all just argue amongst ourselves, they reap the benefits of our chaos.

      May 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
    • Bellabeans

      The best revenge I got is being happy that I'm not you. You, miserable, ignorant, poor soul.

      May 25, 2011 at 9:34 am |
  2. Kevin in GA

    Jay in NC you are absolutely right. That is not authetic. It is obviously an attempt by the Martian Overlord Zog to take over the Planet Earth. Obama is a Martian. He was planted here in 1961 to enslave use humans. SAVE OUR PLANET! DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE MARTIANS!

    April 28, 2011 at 12:16 am |
  3. MarineDad

    @Jay in NC

    Give it a rest, will ya! The more you keep thinking this a some grand conspiracy, the more idiotic you sound.

    About GW Bush, a very close friend of mine ( a staunch Conservative), who served in the Texas National Guard at the same time, insists to this day, that GW never showed up at the drills. Dan Rather's fault was that he made claims without proper documents or proof.

    Now, why you do yourself a huge favor. Go directly to the Republican representatives of the Hawaii and ask them Each and everyone of them has come forward and says this is legit. In fact, there was also one birther who went to Hawaii to check things out for himself. That guy came back with his tail between his legs.

    Buy a ticket, go to Hawaii.

    Jeez, there really are some nuts out there!

    April 28, 2011 at 8:04 am |
  4. TheTraveler

    The State of Hawaii verified his legal birth in that state, the Supreme Court of the United States rejected a challenge to Mr. Obama's citizenship, and the long form of his birth certificate has been made public.

    What more do you want? Get over it.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:06 am |
  5. JWS

    Obama says nation has serious business to attend to in AM. In PM he drops in on Oprah's couch and campaigns. Where ever he was born he's a joke. A very bad joke.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:07 am |
  6. Bruce

    Jay in NC are you serious...all I have to do to become a forensic scientist is to view a document on the internet, then authenticate it...you dumb ass!! You need to stop listening to Rush.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:17 am |
  7. Dean

    Legitimate or not, Obama is still a lousy president. After witnessing what he's done so far, anyone who votes for this clown in 2012 is an idiot.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:17 am |
    • Da

      Well Dean, I think he has done a fine job as President. Who you need to be trying to get in line is those lousy Republican in Congress who blocked everything he was trying to do to help your sorry butt!!

      April 28, 2011 at 8:52 am |
    • MIDon

      Obama is a solid "A"..... by comparison with the GOP field, he damn near perfect & he's not a racist like 95% of the GOP attackers.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:34 am |
    • Busted2010

      And what has he done that's been so bad? Turned a negattive growth economy into a positive growth? Went from unemployment growing to now shrinking, passed legistlation that requires higher capital requirements for banks.... you are an idiot who is a Beck Sheep, say "bahahahahaha" you moron!!!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:02 am |
    • lucianne

      Actually, he is doing just fine, thanks.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:05 am |
    • ingrid

      Jay, Rob and Bob, enough! Seriously this is a side show issue. Does it not trouble you that one of the main instigators of this birther issue is the same man (Jerome Corsi) who was behind the swift boating of Presidential candidate Kerry?? Does it not matter to you that the US federal elections committee was satisfied with Obama's paper work or that Hillary Clinton when running against Obama was satisfied? We all know that if Hillary Clinton suspected that Obama's paper work was not legitimate that she would have made that an issue during the election. Enough. He was born in Hawaii and his mother was American. You may not like Obama but he was elected fairly.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:29 am |
    • pazke

      Anyone who pays heed to Dean's post is an idiot.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:38 am |
      • Sam

        ...and for that matter, so is Dean.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • VAFred

      ...and yet, what has the Republican lead congress accomplished since their take over? Obama is doing the best he can with what he was handed by THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION...and a past REPUBLICAN CONGRESS. This is what most Republicans refuse to admit! Personally, I didn't know why he wanted the Presidency with the problems that were looming at the time. The problems were INEVITABLE and UNAVOIDABLE! We should have voted for McCain and Palin. I would have loved to see how they would have handled it! We probably would have be in World War 3 by now!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:38 am |
      • weavie48

        Thanks VAFred, I've said the same to my listners. No one was paying any attention to the other problems that America was having. To much focus on starting a war in Iraq.

        May 18, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • come on bush made 8 years

      i mean really, bush got re-elected in 2004, he was by-far a much lousier president than Obama. Im voting Green, but i surely wont be saddened if Obama is re-elected.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:09 am |
    • renyc

      Explain to me what the roles of the POTUS, Congress and Judicial branches of government are. Once I can see you clearly understand the separation of powers and how checks and balances work, then I'd like to hear your detailed reasons why this President is a "lousy" one. There's a reason why the Senate is still Democrat (Thank God). POTUS will win a reelection. Sorry to dampen your reality. We've needed a central government since the weak failure of the articles of confederation. We're in a period of realigning our priorities and investments. Stop whining and fighting your fellow middle class neighbors over this nonsense. We're going to be just fine. Now stop embarrassing your fellow countrymen.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • wow, really?

      Hmmm, lets see: NASDAQ hits 10 year high, Dow hits 3 year high, unemployment dropping slowly despite obstruction at every turn by the GOP. Still trying to get out of Afghanistan despite GOP's like Boehner trying to obstruct the process in the media. Gitmo closure was stopped because GOP wouldn't allow transfer of criminals to federal prisons. Healthcare law that should have broken the stranglehold Health insurers have on you and I was stripped of all useful parts by GOP, and then GOP tries to declare entire thing unconstitutional so they can remake it in their (lobbyists) image. Oh, do tell, what was it that's so bad about President Obama's administration. (please come up with something in your own words, not Limbaughs or Becks).

      April 28, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • Loan

      Well said, Dean

      April 28, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
    • James

      Let me guess; you voted for Bush – twice. I hate both parties, and therefore don't share your partisan view. Obama has done at least as well as any other president in the last 3 decades and as well as we can expect any president to do in our faulty two party system. If you want something better, stop voting for Demublicans and start voting in candidates not already bought and paid for in all offices.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
    • Marley


      Really? What has Obama done that has made him lousy?

      End the recession? Created more jobs in 1 year than Bush/GOP did in 8 years?

      Tax policies that are much lower than Bush?

      Past health-care reform to lower costs so that millions can get off medicaid and medicare as well as reducing expensive emergency room visits?

      Restore US respectability in the world.

      Oh wait ... you are made because Obama acknowledged and apologized for past evil doings by old WHITE GUYS who use to run the White House.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • slipthalo

      Dean, if Republican voters were squirrels, they'd have a lot of nuts to pick from this time around.......

      April 28, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
      • Bubba

        There's a Republican voter on Trump's head, then.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • common thinking

      amen! he is an UNamerican, socialist, redistribution of wealth spender

      April 28, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
    • Justin


      You know, you're right. I mean, by this time in his presidency, Bush had allowed the worst terrorist attack in US history to take place on our soil, allowed an anthrax attack, completely – and when I say completely, believe me, I mean 100% – botched Afghanistan, planned an utterly failed fool's errand in Iraq, and managed to squander the best economy a President had inherited in possibly history, all while putting us on the road to financial ruin and international joke status. And the Republicans in Congress – most of whom are still there – had cheered him on while he did it and called anyone who questioned his idiotic lunacy a traitor. What's Obama done, except gotten the economy out of a tail spin, pushed reform on one of the biggest financial drains this country faces (health care), gotten us almost completely out of the stupidest blunder in US history (Iraq) and re-formed some of the coalitions Bush spent 8 years destroying. I mean, come on, amiright? Get Trump in there 2012! That guy inherited all his money just like Bush, but what makes him even better is he's had multiple bankruptcies and failed marriages!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
    • Sandy

      Lousy? Saved your butt from the depression lines!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
    • Lib

      Dean, even if he was a lousy president, heaven help us all because I WILL BE VOTING FOR HIM AGAIN! Never in my life have I been as afraid of a group of people as I am republicans today. Not a one would I vote for!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    • Lib

      I WILL BE VOTING FOR HIM AGAIN! Never in my life have I been as afraid of a group of people as I am republicans today. Not a one would I vote for!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
      • Lib

        sorry for double post

        April 28, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
      • Dean

        You must be from Chicago. Liberals voting twice...that's the only way Obama will win.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
    • McCain-in-4

      Thank you, Dean, for finally admitting that President Obama is the legitimate President of The United States Of America. You have come a long way.

      April 28, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
    • NeilsInSeattle

      In his first two years, in addition to health care reform, President Obama:

      Passed stronger Wall Street reform than expected

      Passed credit card reform

      Passed a tax cut for 95% of working Americans (as part of the stimulus bill)

      Passed FDA reform that finally gave them recall powers

      Passed repeal of the Don't Ask Don't Tell legislation, putting the military in charge of if/when the policy would actually end

      Passed tax cuts for up to 3.5 million small businesses to help pay for employee health care coverage

      Eliminated subsidies to private lender middlemen of student loans and protect student borrowers

      Expanded hate crime law in the US to include sexual orientation through the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act

      Extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees

      Appointed more openly gay officials than any other president in US history

      Saved the US auto industry

      Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years

      Promoted social responsibility through creation of serve.gov, a national database of volunteer opportunities

      Reversed the 'global gag rule', allowing US aid to go to organizations regardless of whether they provide abortions

      Ended major military operations in Iraq

      Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, giving the FDA the authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing, and sale of tobacco for the first time

      Signed New START Treaty – nuclear arms reduction pact with Russia

      Deported more illegal aliens in 2009 than any previous administration had in any previous year

      Increased average fuel economy standards from 27.5mpg to 35.5mpg, starting in 2016

      Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers

      Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB

      Reversed the policy of barring media coverage during the return of fallen soldiers to Dover Air Force Base

      Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse

      Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids - 4 million of whom were previously uninsured

      Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research

      Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis

      Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system

      That's enough to get my vote.

      April 28, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
  8. EddyL

    Trump is an idiot.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:21 am |
    • MM

      That is being nice!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • VAFred

      ...at the very least!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:40 am |
    • greg


      April 28, 2011 at 11:18 am |
    • Marley

      Thank god for Trump!

      He has been able to do what nobody else has been able to do: Get Sarah Palin out of news!

      Trump > Palin


      April 28, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
    • ctbeckyw

      Though I am in NO way a Donny fan, you have to give him some credit for dominating the headlines for an extended period of time with a non-issue of untruths. Obama was born in Hawaii. Even if he wasn't, his mother is an American, making him an American. Case closed.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
  9. Hardy Har Har

    Dean, smoke another one. Bet the worlds ending too right? ...lol. Call everyone else morons, we weren't the people that flushed the country down the drain way back when. Check yourself before you wreck yourself kiddo.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:26 am |
  10. John

    The President has struck the right note. The racists who call the tune for the Republican party can't survive ridicule.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:28 am |
  11. Jay - But Not the other Idiot Jay above

    And what proof do you have Jay that the document is not authentic? What proof do you have Mr. Obama was not born in the US?

    All you have is racism disguised as "legitimate" doubt.

    Maybe they should have verified if Bush was American? After all, you have to hate this country to ruin it the way he did.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:32 am |
  12. JD in Moraga

    ...and the commentary here is likely why the President delayed the release for so long. After waiting in vain for the American people to behave in a thoughtful and mature manner, he asked the State of Hawaii for an exception to release the original. Not only does Trump take credit (by the way, Donald, where are these "surprising, interesting things about the President" now?), but the wack-jobs still refuse to accept the proof. Such is the state of American politics today.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:33 am |
  13. Da

    @Jay in NC, dude it is really time for you and all you so call Birthers to give it a rest. We all know that the underline message being sent from your kind is pure racism!! I mean seriously, use what little common sense you have and let this pea jiggle around in that space you call a brain for a moment. Ok, here you go, do you really think the man hasn't been already vetted regarding his birth prior to being the President? I mean let us not forget he was a sitting Senator and you do realize Senators do have access to classified information..right? Okay having access to classified information will require a background check..duh!! Okay now let us fast forward you to his declaration for running for the Presidency, ok do you not think he was thoroughly, vetted by the Secret Service, FBI, CIA, NSA, and anyone else doing investigations? I mean seriously, use what little common sense you may have and just think logically here for a minute. One last thing do you really think if any of this was true and given all the folks that looked into his background, you don't think one them would have leak it to the media he wasn't born in the US? Come on people common sense is all it takes!! People with small minds will always lash out at what they don't understand!! A black man really did become the President!!!

    April 28, 2011 at 8:33 am |
  14. FedUp

    I thought this was serious. Why the jokes then? I guess he finally thought he would not be re-elected if he didn't show his birth certificate 2 years after the question was answered. Hopefully, that will not be the only reason people don't vote for him. There are plenty of other reasons.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:38 am |
    • Busted2010

      It's is so ridiculous to think that he should've fixed all things over night, I don't understand how so many people can be so out of touch w/reality.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • VAFred

      Yes it is serious! Yet it is silly to a fault! BTW, I don't believe YOUR an American! Prove it! Birth certificate? NOPE, I still don't believe you!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:42 am |
    • Lee

      The silliest thing to me is that the Short Form Certificate of Live Birth that President Obama showed in 2008 is the official legal proof of birth in Hawaii. FedUp – he showed this document in 2008 - you make it sound as if he never showed any proof of his birth.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • greg

      it was never serious, since he was proven that he is a U.S. citizen, if you want to know why we are laughing, we are laughing at the birthers, the entire world is laughing

      April 28, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • kica

      Because this whole issue was seriously a joke, much like you and those who think like you.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • sadlyperturbed

      Our President played this perfectly. He released the legal document during the 2008 campaign. But that wasn't good enough for the fools. So he waited until the losers came out of the woodwork (Mr Trump and club) and then he settled the matter convincingly. You loose. Game over.

      Congratulations Mr. President. Well played!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
    • mgrannymax

      because as a Black man, it is an insult to "have to show his papers" to prove his legitimacy. I thought slavery and aparthied was over. No other president has been requested to "how his papers." The bottom line is that there are too many people in this county who stll can't get their mind around the fact that there are Black people living in the Whitehouse - and they're not servants. Also, those same people still believe the myth that Blacks can't be smart, so there must be something amiss with his transcripts. Come on into the 21st century folks!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
  15. Lynn

    Being a Democrat and half-black is all they need to spout their evil mouths. Pure and simple and I'll bet many are good Christians, what a hoot. How did it come about we have so many mental cases in the U.S.?

    April 28, 2011 at 8:39 am |
    • Cin

      Exactly! The good Christians that they are, didn't they read the Bible? It tells them without a doubt that only almighty God has the right to judge another, maybe they missed that part. Hypocrites!

      April 28, 2011 at 8:51 am |
    • VAFred

      There have always been mental cases here! They just have never be asked to take a step back. When the "mental cases" are forced to take something or deal with something they don't want to...they flip out! This is what we are seeing!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:45 am |
      • VAFred

        By the way, regarding the "good Christian" statement: You know what the most segregated day of the week is, right? Sunday! Shame!

        April 28, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • renyc

      To borrow a line from Blazing Saddles " ... there the salt of the earth, you know, morons."

      April 28, 2011 at 11:40 am |
      • renyc

        apologies – I meant "they're" not "there".

        April 28, 2011 at 11:45 am |
    • Retired Army


      Those who live a life filled with hatrid are irrational. And extreme irritionality, well, it makes people.....mental.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • aminmd

      Jimmy Carter once said that some "christian" (my quotes, not his) churches in this country have evolved to such a state that Jesus Christ himself would not be allowed in the door.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
  16. Barry

    It took him three years to produce a legit birth certificate...you ask yourself if it's real. Just like he said, "That didn't check my ID at the door". Either way, 2012...NOBAMA!!!!!!!!

    April 28, 2011 at 8:46 am |
  17. John

    And any body that don't vote for Obama Is even a Bigger IDIOT. If you vote for a Republican ,you much want the rest of American JOBS TO go to Mexico or Over sea like China, India. You do you think let the Big Business go to these other Country and gave them a tax break for doing It. I don't know about you but me I would like the rest of the JOBS stay here IDIOT. You much be Rich or you wouldn't vote for a Republican , because they are trying to take everything the Middle Class ,the Poor and the old Away and give to the Rich and BIG BUSINESS.

    April 28, 2011 at 8:48 am |
    • Barry

      John- the epitome of Liberal voting! Great grammar!!!

      April 28, 2011 at 8:55 am |
    • Christian

      @John, I am not rich and I voted R. You say companies are taking our jobs overseas. These are the companies jobs, not ours. If the company did not exist, neither would the job. The scary thing is the fact that manufacturing companies can produce items overseas, ship them to the US and STILL cost less than if the item were produced in country. There are too many that on one hand complain about manufacturing jobs going overseas, but on the other had they purchase these items because they are less expensive.

      I do agree with your statement regarding tax breaks. I believe all tax breaks for companies and individuals should be eliminated.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:09 am |
    • VAFred

      The poor, southern, living in a trailer or small house, working at a job for minimum wage and barely making ends meet "Republican" is a joke. What these "so called Republicans" don't realize is that the the rich, businessman, fat cat, old family..."true Republican" doesn't give a crap about them, their families, or their lives! They spin this stuff, remind people of the "old days" and blame the Democrats for their problems! They just want their vote. After they take office, the "true Republicans" make millions and the "so called Republicans" go on living check-to-check. I reality the "true Repblican" doesn't want anything to do with the "so called Republican".

      April 28, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • Ray in Vegas

      I couldn't have said it better myself! Well .. scratch that, your English is atrocious .. but you are correct!

      April 28, 2011 at 11:42 am |
    • Max in RI

      John, I'm not quite sure what you're saying other than you're an Obama supporter and that Republicans are ruining the middle class. As someone who is very middle class, I can assure you that my standing in society has not improved under Obama and has in fact only gotten worse. I also don't see it improving anytime soon. Regardless of what mess Obama inherited, his misguided attempts to make it better have been foolhardy at best and he has only made the situation worse. Citizen or not, he is the most unqualified President this country has ever seen.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
  18. DocinPA

    shhhhhhhh. be vewy qwiet. maybe if dey don’t herwe anyting deywll go away………..

    April 28, 2011 at 9:00 am |
  19. Quin

    It's official, republicans don't like minorities...

    April 28, 2011 at 9:06 am |
  20. Larry L

    A lot of Americans are seeking non-racial venues to attack the President – when the very basis for their hatred is in fact racial. Few people are low enough in the food chain to openly embrace racism and directly use the terms of racial hate. They start each critical comment with "I'm not a racist but..." or "I know you're going to play the race card...". I suspect racists can't accept a President so educated, intelligent, articulate, and diplomatic. I'm an old white guy who has see a lot of Presidents. President Obama is doing a magnikficent job in really difficult times. I'm proud of him.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:06 am |
    • rob

      Larry, what your saying here is what this election will boil down to. Anyone who does not support the re-election of President Obama will be suspected of being a RACIST. The sad part is these suspicions will be voiced by Democrat leaders in Government and parroted by their friends in the liberal media in an attempt to intimidate and silence opposition.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:01 am |
      • Busted2010

        Ahhh Rob using bigotry against the president has been a key tool for the republicans since Obama was elected. Burying your head in the sand doesn't change the reality

        April 28, 2011 at 10:06 am |
      • Kevin

        I don't think anybody is saying that everybody who doesn't support Obama's re-election is racist, and if they are I think a majority of reasonable democrats would distance themselves from that argument. I do think that its a fair question to ask whether or not this birther controversy would have began if Barack Obama was white, or even if it would have taken place if his name was "John Joseph Smith" rather than "Barack Hussein Obama". Maybe the answer is no, but if I had to take a bet on it, I'd guess that a majority of people who really bought into this thing were motivated at least in part by racial suspicions. To bury your head in the sand and just say that no birther is possibly being motivated by race is just burying your head in the sand.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:19 am |
    • Bob in Pa

      The only racists I see and hear are the ones that repeatedly yell racist only because they wish to deny someone else of their opinion or express their concerns about someone who id the most powerful man in the world.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:35 am |
      • 'Jay from NC' for President!

        I absolutely agree with 'Bob from PA' in regards to comment on the overuse of dubbing these birther morons "racists." They're Constitutionalists with a concern (unfounded or not).

        April 28, 2011 at 10:45 am |
      • Nurse Lisa

        there is NO WAY to deny any one else's opinion. However, it raises concerns of less savory underlying motives when some loudly espouse untruths, then fail to accept the validity of the very documents they said would make a difference, continue to ignore that the President meets not just either but BOTH criteria to be a citizen – his mom's American citizenship and being born in Hawaii. Their believing a conspiracy was hatched 50 yrs ago to dupe the whole country by somehow guaranteeing that an unborn foreign bi-racial baby could someday be elected is ludicrous.

        April 28, 2011 at 10:55 am |
      • VAFred

        Bob, I would like to see how you would feel if you were living in a predominately black area, were asked to prove your citizenship and NO MATTER WHAT YOU DID, they said you aren't! BTW, I don't believe YOU'RE a American! Where's YOUR birth certificate. I don't believe it! I don't care, I still don't believe it. BTW, I hope you're a RICH "true Republican" and not one of "THOSE" Republicans!

        With every opening of their mouths, the Republicans just prove how much they DON'T have and how much further they push Obama towards re-election!

        BTW! I AM white! Does supporting Obama make me NOT white? I'm also an American, born and raised! I HAVE a birth certificate! What do you mean that doesn't mean anything! God, you "REPUBLICANS" are tough!

        April 28, 2011 at 11:16 am |
      • VAFred


        April 28, 2011 at 11:19 am |
      • ingrid

        Bob, I think you are wrong to say that because people like myself doubt the birther claims because we think you are racists. I do think there are racists among the birther movement as there is PLENTY of evidence to back that up. But I do think that this is a side show and that people like yourself and Jack who noted above is now questioning Obama's education are wasting everyone's time and this is just silly. Obama was born in Hawail. There is ample evidence. His mom is a American. Again ample evidence. He was on the HLR which means he had a high GPA. He graduated top 10% of his class at Harvard. No easy feat. So when people like yourself and Jake continue to question his past it does make me question your motives. Were you this concerned about Bush's academic back ground? Did you worry about Bush's drug use? He basically was very closed mouth about that? Where you concerned about Bush's presidency that led us into unpaid for wars and sky rocketing debt and took us to the brink of a second great depression???

        April 28, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
      • Lib

        Absolutely Ingrid! That comment is a cop out for their real racist feelings. There's no doubt their dislike is based on race and it is not only Blacks pointing this out. How can you have so much deep rooted hate for someone without something being wrong with you? I voted white all my life but have never made racist comments about any of the white presidents just as many in my culture have now. YOu have never seen Blacks disrespecting the POTUS as you have some whites. And these are the very ones who cry unpatriotic, hang the American flag on their house and cars. Patriotism is in the heart and what is very unpatriotic is disrespecting the POTUS!

        April 28, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
      • Retired Army

        Ingid......stop.....just STOP......making sense.

        Birthers just don't want to hear it!!!

        April 28, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
    • Srm

      The "damned if you do, damned if you don't" paradox when it comes to President Obama is astounding. The latest being this birther issue. First they demand he release his birth certificate. He does. and it's fake. Then they demand the long form. He does. and it's fake or, and my favorite via conservatives, he shouldn't have caved. I wasn't a fan of George Bush, but I respected him as POTUS and Commander-in-Chief even though many didn't. The lack of respect shown our president is disheartening. I've been alive since the Reagan administration but didn't become politically aware until the Clinton Administration. The vitriol, hate and disrespect thrown in the direction of the modern American president nowadays is so appalling I can't think for the life of me why anyone in their right mind would want that job. Good luck to Obama. When he retires it will be well-earned.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • Loan

      Do you recall the beer summit ? Who was racist ? Who jumped into conclussion so quick ?

      April 28, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
    • Sandy

      So right you are!!

      April 28, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
  21. Desmond in Canada

    The so-called Repub leadership in your country has clearly been stoking and feeding off the very large lunatic segment of that Party that is evidently genetically racist, bigotted and plain scared- S..t because this so-called leadership can't remotely hold a candle to President Obama when it comes to intelligence, understanding of the issues, real class and commpassion – A PRESIDENT THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD HAVE ANY DAY

    April 28, 2011 at 9:17 am |
  22. Randy, San Francisco

    Like Palin, Trump will fade away because he is a distraction from the real and substantive discussion of important issues like the economy, budget deficit, and health care. The serious GOP presidential contenders should worry that continuation of dirty swift boating tactics will divert attention away from their campaign messages.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:18 am |
    • Publius Novus

      The "real" Rupublican candidates have a much more serious problem than the sideshows of Palin, Trump, and Bachmann. In order for any of them to win the nomination, they have to run at the extreme right of the political spectrum, in order to satisfy the extreme right wing of the party. Once they get the election, they must maneuver back toward the center, which at this point is a very great ideological distance from the Republican right wing. The trip necessarily requires them to modify earlier statements and positions, since the vast majority of Americans are politically centrist in orientation–most sit on the center point, with smaller numbers to the center-left and center-right. The modification of earlier statements and positions looks a lot like flip-flopping, and to a large extent, it is. Romney, who would be the Republicans' stongest candidate in a general election, is the poster child for this problem. As governor of Massachusetts, Romney was a slightly right-of-center modereate Republican and promoted some sensible and popular programs in a very liberal state. But it is going to be very difficult for him to get the GOP nomination, due to the right-wing control of the party. In order to get the nomination, he is going to have to explain away his moderate governance of Mass., which is not going to be easy given his record. If he does so successfully, he will then have to return to the center, which will require him to re-travel the same ideology, but in the other direction. He will have to be one heck of a politician to do both of these things successfully. The other serious GOP candidates have similar problems. Huckabee and Daniels are two. Pawlenty is a lightweight, Santorum is not even popular in Pa., Paul is a latter-day Harold Stassen. The rest of the candidates are simply too crazy for serious consideration–Palin, Bachmann, and Trump. Obama will be re-elected, if only by default.

      April 28, 2011 at 9:59 am |
  23. GOP = Greed Over People

    For the record, the "long form" on file, is NOT considered the official birth cert, the short form that everyone gets, when asking for a duplicate is the "official" birth cert. The only time the long form is official is if you still have your mother's copy, she was given, then you can use that, otw, you get the official short form.

    Sadly, not all us still have a mother to ask about the whereabouts of her copy of the long form.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:20 am |
    • DaveO

      ...and you are the expert on birth certificates. What a blow hard!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:17 am |
    • ellid

      Not quite. The hospital certificate "your mother was given" is not a legal birth certificate. It's a nice little souvenir from the hospital and has no legal validity. Only state-issued documents have such standing.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:22 am |
    • Lee

      Absolutely right. The stupidest part of all this is that the "short form" Obama produced in 2008 is the only official proof of birth document in Hawaii. The "long form" that everyone was waiting for is not the legal proof of birth document in Hawaii. Silly – the whole thing.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:30 am |
  24. eunice a


    April 28, 2011 at 9:21 am |
    • Max in RI

      That's one of the few things that Obama is good at – making other people look stupid. He could have released his birth certificate years ago. So what was the point of waiting? And while tornados were ravaging the South, he was appearing on Oprah and attending a fundraiser in NYC.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
  25. Baby Boomer

    I'm glad he made a joke out of this whole thing. (Including Donald Trump.) Sometimes that's the best way to handle ludacris accusations and nonsense. I, on the other hand, am really tired of him, me and every other AA in the U.S. having to prove themselves worthy of what we fight so hard to achieve. How dare Trump question his birthplace, education and achievements at Harvard. Once again we see a shining example of someone with "Unearned Privilege" (Trump) trying to decide who belongs in what role and who doesn't. Like it or not WHITE men are not entitled to every job, every advantage, all the money, etc. I must say, the President is a better person than me. How he keeps his cool and a sense of humor thru all the BS is simply amazing.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:22 am |
    • kelly

      I agree. Obama has integrity and shows he is above all this garbage by trying to stay focused on the real issues. When ever I hear Trump open his pie hole, I want to smack him. He is such a liar and schiester (sp?). He brags about swindling Ghaddafi in a realestate deal...what integrity!!! (NOT) He lies about his personal investigation of Obama's birth place...who and what are his sources when he claims the document is "missing or doesn't exist". He answers that it is inappropriate.......lie, lie, lie. He just makes stuff up and morons like birthers pounce on it like it is red meat. It all makes me sick. I wish CNN and all the news stations would stop giving him attention. That way if you wanted to hear his fantasies, you'd have to tune into FOX, where he belongs!

      April 28, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • Madman

      He finds peace through meditation with his peers, George Soros, Bill Ayers, Van Jones and Jeremiah Wright...

      April 28, 2011 at 10:15 am |
    • give it a rest

      You're right. Obama has displayed such class and dignity through the entire episode. When you contrast that with the Republicans, the glaring differences between the two parties is evidenced. The GOP is full of hatred and vitriol. That may be the Dems downfall because we don't, generally, engage in the gutter politics. I loved the "carnival barkers" line. It was directed straight at Trump, if you ask me. Time for Trump to take the circus and move on...

      April 28, 2011 at 10:22 am |
    • Phoebs

      I am in agreement with your statement. Everytime I hear a birther say that all he has to do is "just show the long form", I just wanted to ask them "who are you that he has to prove anything to." It angers me that we still have to continue to prove ourselves as AA to people who will never except us anyway. These people are just doing this to try to destroy his character so I hope he doesn't show anything else these fools that they feel they are "entitled" to see.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:18 am |
    • Sgt. Joe

      Well stated. Obama does show a lot of class when it comes to what he's been handed. The crap he gets ifrom those who hate him (and I suspect they hate him because he is different then what they are use to) is unbelievable; he must really love this country, that's all I can say.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
  26. Kim

    I think President Obama is doing a great job and I will vote for him again in 2012. Rome wasn't built in a day. The GOP had 8 years to drive us off a cliff and to think in just two years plus it can turn around in a hearbeat is unrealistic.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:25 am |
  27. BlackPanther2020

    I geuss having black people thats really intelligent is just too much for white people to handle , get over it ,we've known all along that a lot of you are just low life bottom feeding bigots ,...............how's does that feel having someone of another race 100 times smarter than you and the funny thing about you can't do a dam thing about ti ..........

    April 28, 2011 at 9:26 am |
  28. Don

    President Obama isnow America's first "legitimite" US President. Washington, Adams and Jefferson were not born in the USA. Thank you Donald you keep giving and giving to yuor country. Such a patriot. .

    April 28, 2011 at 9:38 am |
  29. Terrence J

    Just once, I would like some reasonable people to ask the birthers when they became members of the KKK. someone needs to call them out to what this really is. Racism at it's core. The birthers are hiding behind the birth certificate cloak and getting away with it because they know they can. No one will ask them....no one HAS asked them. It wouldn't matter if Pres. Obama's name was Tom Jones, born and raised in prominence in Cleveland, Ohio, they would still question his right to be president. Why? Because they still believel blacks in America are NOT citizens, or at most, second class citizens. And to all the birthers who will reply to this...........you can't prove you are not members of the KKK in the manner the President proved he was a natural born citizen.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:40 am |
  30. Michael

    Obama played Trump like a rented piano. Donald had all this proof that was suppose to surprise everyone and support his belief that Obama was lying. Now Donald want to take credit. Instaed, he looks the fool. Now we can look at Trump, smile and say "You Lie"!

    April 28, 2011 at 9:55 am |
  31. CEE

    Not only did he prove that he is American,but he also proved what Clowns Trump and the birthers are.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:56 am |
    • JohnC

      The irony is, Obama proved where he was born THREE YEARS AGO when he released his official Hawaii birth certificate. But since birthers convinced themselves that an official document stating Obama was born in Honolulu somehow doesn't prove he was born in Honolulu, we've been subjected to their irrational arguments ever since.

      We learned nothing new about Obama yesterday. We did, however, learn that the birthers know next to nothing about birth certificates.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
  32. Mark

    How do you Neocons deal with your anger and hatred towards Obama and still profess to be a Christian? You cannot hate and not forgive and still be a follower of Christ. You are either liars or frauds.

    April 28, 2011 at 9:59 am |
  33. Christian

    Look, if he was not eligible to be POTUS, the F.E.C. would not have allowed him to run. Remember, the F.E.C. was under a Republican administration when Obama ran for POTUS. It is sad the crazy fringe on both sides of the political spectrum are the ones that get all of the press, but the individuals that are in the center that actually propose alternative solutions are ignored.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:02 am |
  34. johnny popper

    I can't believe this is the first time he has produced the requisite "birth certificate". Why didn't his campaign produce when he ran in the primaries? How did he skirt the issue then? Why was it so hard to obtain? It is an easy thing to do. I don't really care about him being born here, but I do find it wierd he did not put this issue to bed long ago and that him not doing so, is not odd to people. He could have fulfilled the requirement like most people would have in 5 minutes of work. You make your bed, you lay in it at this point. Irresponsible for a President and his team. Caused a lot of wasted time and why does it take for someone as persistent as an opponent to get him to spend the time to have one reissued? I'm sure there was a political angle from his handlers. Wanted to make opponents look racist maybe I don't know. Too stupid to not be a planned approach. Sad to me he waited for things to get to this point. A very routine document to issue. VERY routine.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:04 am |
  35. Gary TX

    A group of "birthers" were on a large party boat in the middle of the lake. Jesus Christ came down from the heavens and stood on the water beside the boat. All looked at him and were stunned. Jesus said " I come before you to tell you that President Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States." The birthers looked at each other and then looked at Jesus and said "you’re not Jesus." I rest my case

    April 28, 2011 at 10:06 am |
  36. aatami

    The most enlightening part of this whole issue has been Trumps self congratulations. If anyone can look on that and still think that there is an ounce of legitimacy to his possible candidacy then that person is stupid. Trump is the quintessential
    example of the ego driven, ego centered, individual stuck in an adolescent stage of development. I'm sure his father never said he was proud of him. Trumps emotional stuntedness aside, he really is not very bright. Dishonest, self serving, yes but bright. No way. His supporters obviously lack the vision or intelligence to understand the seriousness of government.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:06 am |
  37. jen

    OBAMA 2012!

    April 28, 2011 at 10:10 am |
    • Bob

      Obama fired in 2012

      April 28, 2011 at 10:26 am |
  38. Madman

    Has to make you wonder why he would spend over a million to keep it under wraps for two and a half years. Also, makes you wonder why Hillary Clinton ever brought it up and made such an issue out of it in the first place. I would still like to see the academic records, understand the legal implications of a minor mother and father of foreign citizenry and the ever lasting issue of duality. Don't worry Barry, they will be checking all your ID's as you leave office in 2012, along with the Silverware...

    April 28, 2011 at 10:13 am |
  39. VAFred

    Geeze! Are the conspiracy theorists and the minds of the powers that be (and those that want to be) so small that they need to bring up this stupid issue again? Aren't there other problems in this country (and all over the world) that they could concentrate their efforts on? Obama released his birth certificate! The Governor of Hawaii saw it and confirmed it to be authentic! People knew Obama as a baby and confirmed he was born in Hawaii! But this isn't good enough for the powers that want to be. In response to this, they now need to shift the story to "its fake", "he has dual citizenship", "its been forged", etc. Get over it already! HE IS OUR PRESIDENT! I wonder how many past presidents were required to prove and prove and prove their citizenship! Does having a black president bother these people so much that they need to run in circles, looking to find anything...something about the guy? They want to blame him for the problems we're having in this country today but lets not forget it was GEORGE BUSH who started the snowball rolling down the hill. Of course its OBAMA'S fault for not being able to stop avalanche at the bottom of the hill! Lets blame him! Please!

    Price of gas: Lets blame him for the high price of gas, not the speculators or the gas companies that are making higher profits then ever before in history. Question: How does our President have the power to tell a company in a free market and capitalistic country to control their prices? Isn't this surmountable to socialism? Regulation? Don't the Republicans frown on these controls? Taxes? Size of government? Do we really believe the Republicans have the solutions to these problems? If so, why didn't they implement them during the Bush era?

    Drill more? Didn't the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico rattle anyone's brain, and does anyone actually believe that giving a capitalist more product to sell will have him lower the price of that product? It's called PROFITS people. They are making record profits! Year after year! They will just sell the additional product at the best price they can get for it! If they couldn't, they wouldn't want to be in business. They are NOT benevolent benefactors...they ARE businessmen!

    It's up to US: The only way we could actually lower the price of gas is to lower the demand, which is basically OUR consumption and is in OUR hands. Lose the Hummers, the gas guzzlers, use less! But that is not in the mind of the average American! We believe its our right to own whatever car we want, use as much gas as we want, waste what we want. That has been the way it always was...in the past. While we were driving cars, they were walking or riding bikes. Now, THE WORLD is driving cars and want their share of the oil. Isn't it time for us as a technology-leading country to start seriously investing money into alternative power? By this I mean the businesses in this country! Hmm, Lets see spend money or make money? NOT WHILE THERE ARE STILL RECORD PROFITS TO BE MADE WITH THE OIL IN THE GROUND!

    The issues: Why can't the Republicans take on Obama on the issues that are important in this country? Why? Because they can't. What they are doing is like a magician, "watch this hand not that one" , "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".

    They need to just come out and say "YES, OBAMA IS AN AMERICAN" HE MADE US LOOK LIKE IDIOTS WITH REGARD TO THE BIRTHER ISSUE! NOW LETS GET TO THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT!" But they won't. They can't. Apparently its not in their genes. They can't deal with the fact that Obama is black, Democratic, and he is our President! They prefer to cover their ears and go "LA LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I DON'T BELIEVE YOU! I DON'T CARE, I STILL DON'T BELIEVE IT!" Didn't we all deal with these kind of idiots in elementary school?

    Better yet, lets vote Sarah Palin or Donald Trump in! Both of these people wouldn't know what to do if they got the chance.

    Sarah Palin's idea of being worldly is going hunting. She can see Russia from her backdoor and up until the election, never stepped foot outside of our country much less Alaska. She is a closed minded, bigot and has no idea that we are dealing with THE WORLD AND NOT JUST ONLY THIS COUNTRY! Also more importantly, lets NOT forget that she WALKED out on the position of Governor of Alaska! Is this a person we want as our President? Will she walk out on the Presidency if she finds the position uncomfortable?

    Trump is a narcissistic, media seeking idiot, who can't deal with the fact that it has been proven he is NOT a billionaire but merely a millionaire! Its been proven time and time again, the facts are the facts! But yet he files appeal after appeal and probably will until his "enemies" finally admit what "HE" says is right! Yeah, this is a good use of the courts and taxpayer money! You are NOT a billionaire, Trump! "LA LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" Another thing, who will pay for the 2 hours he spends having his hair fixed every morning? The taxpayer? What he refuses to admit business world is crumbling around him and he still attempts to pull the wool over everybody's eyes! Is it so bad to be a normal business man, Trump? Do you HAVE to be the leader?

    Trump says "he takes credit for the release of the birth certificate and he is proud"? Donald! OUR PRESIDENT MADE YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT! You called him and he showed his hand...all aces! You're laughing and bragging while he is scooping up all the chips! God, what a moron! Then again, you really didn't need him to make you look like an idiot, did you? You do that pretty good yourself!

    Republicans: Give us a good candidate. One that will deal with the issues at hand and prove to be a better President than Obama and I WILL vote for him! Otherwise, shut up and get out of the way!

    Lets get over this "silliness" and get back to the issues at hand! America doesn't need the world to destroy us, we are doing it to ourselves! Lets continue to allow business to move production out of our country yet still import their products into America and charge top dollar. Lets continue to consume products and resources like there is no tomorrow and there won't be. Lets continue to import foreign products at a unfair ratio, allowing the other countries to refuse our products. This is why we are falling behind China! Lets continue to spend billions on defending people in other countries that clearly hate America not to mention the number of lives of the proud Americans that are lost defending these people. Don't we have enough problems within our own borders? Couldn't these billions of dollars and thousands of lives be better used fixing our country's infrastructure, economy, advancing and improving the lives of our own country and people? It's pretty stupid to listen to politicians whining about the economy when America is spending billions defending people and countries that will NEVER, EVER appreciate it. Instead, lets continue to go down the road we are on, squabble over scraps and sit back and watch the destruction of our own country.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:14 am |
  40. chuck

    You cannot compare Obama ansd Trump. Obama is highly intelligent and ethical. Trump is a narcicisstic businessman, making a mockery of the GOP. jay.. you are an idiot...

    April 28, 2011 at 10:15 am |
  41. Bob in Pa

    It has been fun watching Obama and his media minions falling over each other to only finally see BO cower to one of Americas most controversial citizens. Now if the "Donald" can get BO's SAT Scores and college transcripts released ... all these are simple acts that the media usually demands of any presidential candidate. If they had done it in 08, maybe the skeptics would be more at ease. I think the issue has more to deal with the unknown factors of the President and people are not comfortable with that. So stop with all your racist taunts and ask the Prez to be what he claimed to be during the campaign, "OPEN".

    April 28, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • ellid

      The President released his birth certificate in 2008. The fact that the lunatic fringe refuses to believe the State of Hawaii shows only that America is a sad, sad place.

      Shame on you for promulgating the birth lies.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • Reggie

      I never saw Ronald Reagan's transcripts (that you say the media require every president to release) – did you see Reagan's transcripts (link to any website that does)

      April 28, 2011 at 10:36 am |
    • Nurse Lisa

      you must not have been watching the same broadcast – we saw the prez laughing at the birthers and Donald – not cowering. Eagerly awaiting Donald's release of his financials – but not believing he'll ever admit his failures publicly by allowing people access to all those bankruptcies.

      April 28, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • Observer

      The president's SAT scores are totally irrelevent. Is anyone going to think they were lower than Bush's? They only matter to after-birthers.

      If the after-birthers really want to set history straight, they should investigate where Bush spent his time while he was supposed to be doing National Guard duty in Alabama. There isn't one person who can prove that he was there.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:02 am |
    • Phoebs

      He doesn't "need " to show anything else to you birthers......he doesn't owe the satisifaction of the egg that would be on your faces that his SAT score is higher then you would have ever scored and that it is possible for a AA to actually be intelligent. You all are not "entitle" to that information. Let it go and lets start talking about real issues...

      April 28, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • luke

      why does anyone really care about his grades? he graduated from columbia and harvard law school. chances are, his grades were much better than george bush's at yale(im not sure but wasnt he a C student?), for him to even be admitted to harvard law school. are harvard and columbia universities now not to be trusted? are they part of the conspiracy?

      sarah palin bounced around 5 different colleges before finally graduating from the illustrious university of idaho. conservatives are so concerned about baracks grades but it doesnt matter to them that sarah palin wasnt an ideal student?

      April 28, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • VAFred

      Maybe it was all in the plan, bruhahaha! (rubbing hands together) Lets hold the birth certificate until the nut-job Republicans start to get red in the face and make fools of themselves! Then we'll release it, bruhahaha!

      Honestly, why carry on with the birther issue over and over? Isn't there anything else the Republicans can come up with since "he is doing such a terrible job?"

      The economy? Nope Republicans could fix it either, especially since they did it!

      The war? Nope, especially since they did it!

      Price of gas? Nope, since they're pocketing the profits of the high prices in this economy!

      Maybe Obama will cheat on his wife so they'll have something to bring up!

      Oh yeah, his education! There you go! Please! I'm white, well-off, in college with a 3.95 grade point average and I couldn't even begin to pray to get into Harvard! How did HE get into Harvard? He is BLACK! He MUST have faked it!

      Truth is he's a lot smarter than I am, everyone on this board, every Republican, and most Democrats! Hmm, so how can we whites deal with that? I know! He IS half white so it MUST be his BRAIN that is the white part. That explains it! That HAS to be the only way a black person got into Harvard and won the Presidency! It HAS to be! It can't be that he is just INTELLIGENT! No way!

      April 28, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • excitizen

      WOW delusional much Bob? Obama released it to show Chump for the fool he is and Chump is such an egomaniac he's actually proud of himself for furthering the demise of intelligent discourse in the USA. Now chump is questioning his scholastic record when he himself was kicked out of school at 13 for being a bully.

      Your post advertizes your IQ – extremely low. How embarassing for you!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
    • Sgt. Joe

      "Cower" you say? You must have been watching a different broadcast. Did Fox News have their own version? Obama's retort was spot on. It's got to be hard for him to retain his cool, yet he always does. That's class; that's Presidential. Is Obama perfect, hell no. As for the rest of the GOP pack of fools, they've been great entertainment. They talk big about jobs to get the votes; then they fall back to their comfort zone of padding the wealthiest pockets and pandering to big oil. Middle class, wake up!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • BlackPanther2020

      Hey Bob , keep waiting for those records......lol , I must admit that our president is a very special person to hear such racial rants from people that he actually has to help , and for the very hateful white people in this country , how about looking in the mirror maybe you will like the ugliness that you'll see.................

      April 28, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • Steve in Denver

      SAT scores? Really? The guy graduated magna cum laude from one of the most prestigious universities in the world. What do you suppose you'll find in his SAT scores that has any relevance to today's issues? Trump is a circus barker, and you are a circus barker groupie.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
    • annie s

      I think the President has been EXACTLY what he promised in his campaign. He's been unable to keep every campaign promise, of course – no President has ever been able to do that – but he has accomplished a tremendous amount in only 2 1/3 years, including saving us from a great depression. I'm proud to have him in the White House and will happily vote for him again.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
    • Bubba

      Yeah, remember how Bush released his SATs? Remember how his former commanding officers ran from the light like roaches rather than admit his dad, the governor, had gotten him out early? How about Trumpy investigating that next?

      April 28, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
    • aminmd

      Bob, when was the last time you had to provide your SAT scores to an employer? Or HS or college transcripts? Have you insisted on seeing any other candidate's SAT scores or college transcripts? I feel certain that you have not. If you can't handle that this man is more than qualified, constitutionally eligible, or that he can be black and President, you need to move to another country. Like it or not, non-whites can be smart and have integrity the same as anyone else. Get over yourself. And, as happens in all cultures, changes happen. So much so, that white's will be the minority within a few decades. Get used to it.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
  42. Paul Thompson

    Who, What, Where, Why, When, How!

    Since this is good to release, let's keep those hidden documents coming!

    April 28, 2011 at 10:21 am |
  43. Joe, San Diego

    Trump is eating crow then spins as if he was the one to get the President to produce the document... which was already done during his vetting process and 3 years ago when Hillary Clinton started this mess... the stupidity of the birthers/tea party and republicans- they should have been questioning the former President's intelligence...

    April 28, 2011 at 10:22 am |
  44. mike

    the president has every right to play with the media and the republican tea baggers he has earned his strips and and it is time to have fun with these fools donald got trumped our president has class and if most americans followed his lead we wouldn't be we are at in this country today if we want to live in a global world we have to be like our president

    April 28, 2011 at 10:23 am |
  45. doug

    I think it's important to try and offer a small amount of reason....

    1) It was not judicious to have left this in the wind for so long, and has been divisive. A President should unite the country, not further divicde it.

    2) Nobody really thinks Obama has been the President many hoped he would be, and that is not tied to race.

    3) Like Bush or not, the Arab Spring is tied to what got started in Iraq, and altough it is a huge mess – that Obama has not gotten us out of as promised, it has inspired the neighbors there to seek freedom themselves.

    4) We need a President who will unite this country. While we've been waiting for the President to present his birth certificate so w he can run for re-election, the Chinese have been sucking the dollars out of our country at record pace. It's time to look at the legitimate financial crises out our door – the Chinese financial one.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:25 am |
  46. Paul Thompson

    Obama does this on purpose, it is an Alinsky tactic. He causes controversy to demonize his opponents. Isn't anybody else getting tired of this? Release all your records, Mr. President. End the controversy and lead America, not just your blind followers.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:26 am |
  47. Bob

    cnn is to liberal. Im outa here

    April 28, 2011 at 10:27 am |
  48. Sam

    to dispute that Obama's certificate is not original – is not only an insult to him, but also to all the people who had the job of verifying. Basically you are insulting a whole bunch of people – FBI, CIA, and whole bunch of other agencies – that they didn't do their job right in ensuring that our president is not legit. That's one hell of a conspiracy to pull – across a vast land and across many agencies. Don't you think?

    April 28, 2011 at 10:27 am |
  49. TheVeteran

    Jay in NC is...a....nut. Listen folks. The document produced by the President isn't a legal document. He just posted it because NUTs like the birthers kept calling for it. The actual LEGAL document is the one CNN reviewed and authenticated. So all of you folks who compare this to the George Bush incident are just plain Loony.

    Here's the scenario: The State of Hawaii, who does not use the hand written birth certificates anymore, went to an electronic form. They call it the certification of live birth. I understand why. It is not the original, but it certifies the birth based on the original, hence the reference to certification versus certificate. So, this state's only legal proof is debunked by NUT JOB republicans, time after time, questioning not only the President's citizenship, but all Hawaiians who use this same system.

    The NUT JOBS kept screaming that the legal one wwas not valid, so you must show us the one that IS NOT legal to prove your citizenship.

    So what we have here is what's typical in the REPUBLICAN PARTY, an upside down group of people. They say they are pro life, when they are pro war and pro death penalty. They say they are deficit hawks, when they practically invented deficit spending. They say they are Christians, when they really are Pharisees who worship wealth. Whatever they say they are, they're really the opposite of that.

    So guess what they really are when they repeatedly say that they are not racist? You betcha!

    April 28, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  50. Dave

    Dance, Barack, Dance - it is fun to watch the Prez dance as the 'birthers' pull the strings left and right...

    April 28, 2011 at 10:31 am |
  51. Joe

    No matter what our President does the crazy folks will not stop. They will contiue because they can not stand the fact that a Black man is President. Well, get over it because with the current crop of Repub candidates our President will be easily elected by the majority of Americans.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:32 am |
    • bigdoglv

      I would not vote for Obama with a gun to my head. I am a big fan of Herman Cain. Does that mean I am racist against Obama's white half?

      April 28, 2011 at 11:22 am |
      • Joe

        Have we ever treated a President in the past with this type of disrespect? Your statement makes about as much sense as Trump's " I get along good with The Blacks"..........Don't worry, our President does not need your vote there are enough level minded sane folks to take care of it...........There is no Repub candidate that has a chance.........

        April 28, 2011 at 11:40 am |
      • VAFred

        The Presidency should not have anything to do with race! White, Black, we are Americans! The election should have to do with who will do the best job as President! A fitting black person could do just as good as a fitting white person, a fitting woman as well as a fitting man, in that or any other job. Until the Republicans show me a fitting candidate for the Presidency, my vote is with the man I feel that is and will do the best job...OBAMA!

        April 28, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
      • jesse

        No, being a fan of Herman Cain just makes you a CRAZY!

        April 28, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
      • Retired Army

        No dog lover......it doesn't make you a racist against Oboma's "white half" to like Herman Cain. It just makes you out to be exactly like so many other White conservatives who fall almost COMPLETELY in love with with vocal Black conservatives/Republicans because of the believe that their views are validated because of the Black men/women who agree with them.

        I remember when Colin Powell had JUST retired from the Army and White Republicans were so eager for him to run for some public office......even suggested that he should run for President.

        THEN.....I remember their reactions to him when he endorsed Obama......WOW! The wouldn't have pissed on Powell if he were in the middle of the street on fire. Why? Because it was as if Powell no longer 'agreed' with their political point(s) of view.

        I just find those dynamics to be so......interesting.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
      • Bubba

        It means you believe in the conservative myth of the "magic negro" who will get black votes and then let Ole Massa tell him what to do. It didn't work with "Stainless" Steele, and it won't work with Herman Cain, and yeah, you probably are a bigot.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
      • Retired Army

        Hey Bubba......speaking of 'magic negros' being pushed up to steal Black votes.......do a little reserch on Obama's Senatorial run in 2004. Specifically, when the White Republican dropped out the race for 'domestic' reasons......check out who the Illinois Republican Party replaced him with.

        Makes for interesting reading 😉 .

        April 28, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
  52. D Wood

    @rob "McCain was also made to prove he was born in the US because his father was stationed in Panama at the time of his birth. The double standard is STUNNING."

    There is no double standard. This whole thing is ridiculous. As a matter of fact, here's a little bit of irony. Follow this link: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/show

    In 2008, Congress passed a resolution recognizing John McCain as a natural-born citizen. The sponsors of the bill were five Democrats, including Hillary Clinton and ... wait for it... Barack Obama. That's the difference between the treatment of McCain (old white guy) and Obama (not old white guy).

    Stop listening to spin and lies; facts are important.

    As far as President Obama's job performance goes, he has been faced with crisis after crisis; he has handled each thoughtfully and carefully

    April 28, 2011 at 10:35 am |
  53. chris24

    what is it the "birthers" want? do they actually think someone gave birth to this baby
    "secretly" and wanted to slip him into the US so he would become president one day
    and take over the world and commit terrorism or something?

    get a life.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:37 am |
  54. Andagain

    How about running the country instead of running for reelection. Is he going to do anything else in the next 19 months?

    April 28, 2011 at 10:37 am |
    • bigdoglv

      Hasn't done much the last 18 months.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:01 am |
      • RG1

        Hasn't done much in past 18 months?? You're kidding. Maybe hasn't done much that you like in 18 months, but despite requiring a filibuster-proof super-majority for 2 years to pass anything in the senate he still got a lot done. Of course if I list the accomplishments here I'm sure you'll bash each one, so I'll only list: health care reform, financial reform, DADT repeal, economic stimulus, continued tax cuts for all, nuclear treaty – and there's much more. Criticize his policies, his positions if you like, but the guy got a lot more accomplished in 2 years than many Presidents.

        April 28, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
      • aminmd

        How about having had the courage to do what it took to keep our economy from completely spiraling into a depression? We came very, very close to that. The depression took 10 years and a war for us to emerge from, while our economy is starting to bounce back in less than 3 years. How about the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act? See all those road projects with the ARRA signs? Those people are working, right here, in the US. You just go ahead and vote for the people who pander to the rich, you look like you can afford pay more in taxes than they do.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
    • VAFred

      "andAgain" I say what has the Republican led congress have done so far? NADA!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • D

      If you are going to go that road...then lets...all I heard from Repubs for 2 years was screaming about jobs, they get elected and haven't even MENTIONED the word since. All they have done is continue to destroy healthcare by trying to send Medicare to state levels (which won't work and has been proven) and will only be a handout to big insurers and add another 90 million to the uninsured pile. Then they focus on taking away womens rights, and are now sponsoring legislation out of TN to not even allow the word 'gay or homosexual' to even be spoken in schools. So once again I ask, just what is the plan for jobs? All we've gotten out of Repubs is nothing but a 'pile of crazy' designed to turn this country into a corporate monopoly. Far as I'm concerned next election they're fired.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
  55. TheVeteran

    @Bob in Pa: Are you results oriented? Why don't you examine the fact that he graduated Magna-Cum-Laude and was Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Those are results, and if you reverse engineer that, one would logically conclude that he as an excellent student. Just like one would logically conclude that Bill Clinton was an excellent student because he was a Rhodes Scholar.

    And compared to Bush, he is wide open. Bush (who is deemed intelligent by the loony) was a bottom of the class alcoholic clown. That is a fact. Some folks even thought that Bush was higher educated than President Obama. Since when is an MBA higher than a JD?

    What in the world is wrong with this country....SMH

    April 28, 2011 at 10:40 am |
  56. Living in America

    Alrigth Trump now show us the certificate of live birth of Chester on yur head. Wow why it has been 24 hours since The President has shown his certificate now how about your financial records. Since you boasted you will do that. What school did you graduate from. Oh my bad it's call the US Government because you have made enough money off the government to make yurself rich.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:40 am |
  57. Kweso

    This Obama fellow is really one smart man. Just when Donald Trump thought he had an issue to rally his campaign around, Obama produces his birth certificate and leaves Trump with an empty hand. Now, it is Trump who look like a fool and has no issue to talk about. Don't think we'll be hearing from this republican anytime soon.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:41 am |
  58. John Q.

    How Presidential... he got "Trumped" and now his feelings are hurt. Poor baby... sheesh. Man-up and quit acting like a whiner and show some statesmanship; it's hot in the kitchen, always has been. I've never witnessed a President that just can't help but put down some person or group every chance he gets like Obama does. It's like he can't help himself.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • VAFred

      UH OH! I hear the banjo playing! Grab yer partner, do-see-do! Yee haw!

      April 28, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • greg

      my friend, there are no words to express the depth of your stupidity

      April 28, 2011 at 11:25 am |
    • DarwinFan

      John Q.>> No. He is not a cry baby, he wasn't "Trumped". He is concerned about the attention being diverted from serious issues (unlike "The Donald") and he is DIPLOMATIC, something you GOPers forgot after the fantastic bully style of governing displayed by George W Bush that gave us so wonderful, magnificent results.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  59. David

    This whole non-issue is racist, period. The Koch-head party has become the party of racists.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:41 am |
  60. 'Jay from NC' for President!

    Brilliant! So glad you caught onto this Jay in NC! It's too bad that the State Registrar uses the green security paper to authenticate that the original document (which by the way is white) came from his office and that it is a scan of the original document (which by the way is bound in a book format). Just ask any Hawaiian who may have requested a duplicate birth certificate, champ. But fair point in regards to Bush and McCain.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:41 am |
  61. jilli

    Trump is playing the modern day role of the old tailgunner joe mccarthy. Now that the birther nonsense has been laid to rest, the silver-spooner who is where he is not because of his own efforts, but those of his grandfather and father – he did it the old fashioned way, he inherited it. Trump now can't possibly understand how a black man could be legitimately intelligent enough to attend ivy league schools. He's blowin' the dog whistle loud and clear. He's racking up the race-baiting and fear-mongering. I have a campaign slogan for mr. trump. "Vote for me – I think you're stupid". It's truly pathetic that it rings true for too many in this country.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    • GrannyGoodwitch

      Or maybe his slogan should be "Vote for me - I'm white and loud."

      April 28, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • Nurse Lisa

      Great slogan suggestion for Chump. Were he to get elected to any jpolitical position, his corporate loyalty and greed would likely have many of his previous supporters hearing, "you're fired."

      April 28, 2011 at 11:05 am |
  62. Linda

    This insanity needs to stop. People boycott anything Trump – Celebrity Apprentice, his Casinos, etc. Let's start emailing NBC to cancel his lousy show. This is typical right wing lunacy. If you vote for a Republican in 2012, then you are as dumb as the rest of them.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:46 am |
  63. excitizen

    Obama is such a classy guy....no wonder so many hate him, he reminds them of what they lack. Chump on the other hand is too ignorant to know that he's a fool.

    As reported this morning on the news, while the Chump questions Obama's school grades, he himself (Chump) was kicked out of school at age 13 for being a bully and was then sent to Military school.

    He is a egocentric bully who was born into money and lies about everything. If you doubt my words please check the facts yourself from his own mouth – http://inthearena.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/21/deposition-reveals-trumps-misstatements/

    April 28, 2011 at 10:46 am |
  64. BobJones

    Mock away Mr. Obama. 2012 is right around the corner. You and Jimmy Carter will have many sit dows I'm sure on how the electorate just never understood your massive intellect and good intentions as you languish in your failed legacy and one term presidency. America has had enough. My advice: Go on vacation where you can really do some good for this country.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:46 am |
  65. Benjamin

    Thank you all for undermining the authority of the POTUS, and making a mockery of America in front of the world. Our forefather's would be proud of our infighting and bitterness for one another.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:48 am |
  66. Barry from Wisconsin

    I am glad the President syill has his sense of humor. These foamy-mouth "birther" fools are – at a minimum, stupid…and some are certainly racists,

    April 28, 2011 at 10:53 am |
  67. Anthony

    Clearly the republican birthers can tell that this original photo copy was taken from the grassy knoll, just a few miles out side of roswell new mexico. Then photo shopped at area 51. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! The stupidity of these people knows no bounds. Yes the half black american man won, get over it, run someone with some real ideas if you dont like him.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:53 am |
  68. Andrea Anderson

    Hey John Q, who has President Obama "put down some person or group every chance he gets?" No, that would be your Sarah Palin. How are his feelings hurt? Why do African-Americans have to validate their education? John McCain admitted he graduated on the lowest rung of the academic ladder, did you ask President Bush to show his college transcripts? Why Obama, who never would have been elected Harvard Law Review President if he had mediocre grades, have to show his? Cleaners called, your sheets are waiting to be picked up for your cross burning rally tonight.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:55 am |
  69. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    Eggs are all over these blogs.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • Retired Army

      Yes......rotten eggs.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
  70. Gary, Hunt Valley, Md.

    Well played, Mr. President.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:57 am |
  71. Closetiguana

    Obama shouldn't pick on Trump and the other mentally challenged Birthers.

    April 28, 2011 at 10:58 am |
  72. bigdoglv

    He was born in Hawaii. He has used this whole birther thing to his advantage and now it is gone. Get back to work and get us out of this mess you fools created in DC.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Sam

      Used it to his advantage? Are you stuck on stupid?

      April 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • VAFred

      I agree but the "powers that want to be" aren't going to just sit back and let Obama take the 2012 election. They don't have anything so they are just digging and digging. Eventually, if you dig far enough you'll find something in everyone's past. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." They need to stop wasting they're time worrying about the upcoming election and worry about the upcoming failure of this country. STOP blaming ONLY the President for our problems. He does NOT have ALL the powers. He is President NOT KING or EMPEROR! If he was responsible for it all, why do we have congress or the senate? They are all to blame. They need to stop pointing fingers and get to work!

      April 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
  73. Tina

    @Jen, I agree OBAMA 2012 🙂 @ Dean, well I guess you and others like you are clowns if you think that bush did anything good for this country, in the horrible 8 years that he was unfortunately in the White House.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:02 am |
  74. Donnell

    Here's the bottom line, all this discussion over the President being born in the United States is a distraction on the Donald part and the birthers. We as a people need to look at the issues that is ahead of us for the next elections! I am a independent and I voted for the best person I thought would do the job of getting us back from the mess that happen during GW watch.. Now we have to look forward and decide which way were are going to go as a nation...not as Repug agenda and or Demo agenda, but as a nation.... This going back and forth about useless matters is a waste of time and energy..lets focus people and get on track.....

    April 28, 2011 at 11:02 am |
  75. Observer

    The president's SAT scores are totally irrelevent. Is anyone going to think they were lower than Bush's? They only matter to birthers.

    If the birthers really want to set history straight, they should investigate where Bush spent his time while he was supposed to be doing National Guard duty in Alabama. There isn't one person who can prove that he was there.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:04 am |
  76. Conspiracies abound

    Wow who honestly thought that releasing this document would deter the birthers? I mean come-on, from day 1 you could tell these people would use every dimension to ensure that there point remained valid (in their eyes, not ours). Forgery? psh i saw that coming from a mile away, even if obama took trump to look at the document, it wouldnt satisfy them.
    But who am i to judge? i believe in the conspiracy (the much more rationale one) that the Reagan Administration, not street hoodlums, were the ones to first manufacture and then later distribute Crack-cocaine into the Urban Ghettos. However i wait anxiously to be called an "idiot" by the same people who believe Obama was not born in the US.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:05 am |
  77. Carl

    Why is this an issue? People, it's not really about the birth certificate. It's not about race. So what is it really about? It's about a ruling aristocracy that have come to believe the rules and laws we mere citizens must follow don't apply to them. Whydo we have to produce birth certificates to get a drivers license, but a candidate for president doesn't have to produce a birth certificate to prove he is eligible for office? Why do we have to go through scanners or get molested to fly, but congressmen and the president don't? Why is it that the president can pick and choose which laws he will enforce (border security?), which court decisions he will abide by (obamacare?), or what rules he will follow, when the rest of us peons better damned well obey each and every one or we'll find ourselves answering to the local magistrate? Why is it that if we make a mistake on our taxes we pay penalties, but politicians simply refile and apologize? No...the real issue here is that these people think they are our Lords, and are above the laws they impose for us regular people to follow. This is fundamentally wrong. This is not America. This must stop. Then, and only then will we stop questioning each and every thing they do.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • tekstep1

      He did supply a certificate of birth, by law he had to. This is the same document Bush, Clinton, Carter, Reagan, etc. had to provide and it was good enough for them. No American President in recent history has ever had to produce the "long"form.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • fudgemonkey

      What makes you think that they (politicians) don't have to pass background checks that include all of the things you just listed. They do have to show a BC to run for office. But the crazy nutjob birthers wanted to see it for themselves. It's ludicrous to believe that Obama or any other public official didn't have to be vetted. In regard to the tax issues and other laws, I agree with youo...but on the birth certificate thing...he showed it...before he ran, and now again.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
  78. martin

    This birth certificate is an obvious fake. I want to see the original placenta. Not just a piece of it, I want to see the whole 9 yards. I have mine- I wear it as a tie around my neck for anyone to see. Why can't Obama?

    April 28, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • greg

      hahahah i want to see it with a made in U.S.A brand on it

      April 28, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • VAFred

      LOL, what about the umbilical cord? The hell with that! Lets spend billions of dollars of taxpayer money and build a time machine so we can go back and witness the birth itself! Matter of fact, I want to personally witness the conception...since I'm in to that stuff.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:33 am |
  79. suesark

    I read somewhere the other day that there is at least a small amount of rumor that Frump is really a Democrat trying to make the Republicans look bad with this birther nonsense! Man! If this is true, I will have to switch parties....in a hurry! The Republicans can HAVE Frump....along with Sara, Glenn, Rush....the list goes on and on and on. What a bunch of crazies!!!! I sincerely hope he is NOT a Democrat!

    April 28, 2011 at 11:09 am |
  80. omvny

    To The Birthers – This is proof of why education is key. Read & learn and maybe you will not be so susceptible to loony, fringe assertions by illiterates and reality show owners. This issue has severely discredited the GOP. Good luck – 30 yr Repubican

    April 28, 2011 at 11:13 am |
  81. Lynn

    Would somebody do an expose on Orly Taitz, the Russian immigree who came to U.S. as a dentist, then became a lawyer and who knows what else. Then she proceeded to champion the birther movement. bin Laden has nothing over her, Taitz is another Tokyo Rose.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • VAFred

      Personally, I think anyone who wasn't born here really should hold their tongue. Where does she come in to say what is what in America? I wonder what they would do to us if we immigrated to Russia and started stomping our feet and saying what should be what in that country?

      April 28, 2011 at 11:28 am |
  82. GaryB

    A guy named Jay in NC has been saying that if you zoom in on the PDF on CNNs website, you can see that the long form birth certificate is a fake. He is obviously ignorant of the process by which one obtains the long form document, so his conclusions are pretty wrong-headed.

    No state that I know of ever releases the actual, original birth certificate. If they did, they would have no official record. So in most cases, they make a scan or copy and place it on security paper. That is what has been done here.It's that simple and it's no great conspiracy, and that accounts for all the "issues" with the birth certificate that Jay thinks he sees.

    Two governors of Hawaii from two differetn political parties and the secretary of state have looked at the original. That is probably three times the authentication that most presidential birth certificates endure. But in the minds of some people who just can't accept that Obama won the election, it will never be enough.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • Jay in NC

      Let's stick with the facts. The former governor of Hawaii did not look at the original birth certificate. You are correct that a state would make a scan or copy and place it on security paper. I agree that that is what they should have done. However that is not the case here. The text is not 'on' security paper, the text and the green security paper are separate adobe layers.

      Again, I am just questioning the .pdf that CNN released. Who made this .pdf? Why is it in layers. Look for your self and then comment. Here is the link.

      April 28, 2011 at 11:31 am |
      • BM

        Jay – You're an idiot!

        April 28, 2011 at 11:49 am |
      • VAFred


        You'd question it regardless of whatever! Get over it! The issue is dead! Now lets start the education issue. Of all people, Trump shouldn't bring up the history of Obama's education and college. If anyone knows the history of Trump's education which equals to about him doing terrible in school and his father buying his way through it! Trump needs to stick the silver spoon back in his mouth and STFU!

        April 28, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
      • Jay in GA

        When scanning documents there is a setting on the scanner for OCR (Optical character recognition) which makes a scanned document searchable. There are some versions of the software that will auto-enhance a document so it is easier to read/search. This could create the issues you state as being "proof" it was doctored.

        To stick to the facts you need to know them and not base your claims on assumptions (as you do in your first post insinuating that the document was altered for some sinister plot).

        Does it look weird? Yes. Could there be a simple answer to it? Yes. Should you know what you're talking about before trying to wind people up? Definitely.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:20 pm |
      • ingrid

        For those doubting this birth certificate:

        Are you an expert in forgeries? Are you an expert on birth certificates? Really? How many birth certificates have you seen that you can compare to? Do you have your bc on hand. The actual one? This is getting very silly.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
      • Graybeard

        @ Jay in NC: You state "The text is not 'on' security paper, the text and the green security paper are separate adobe layers." Since you've made the claim, prove it! Don't tell me to visit the website and see for myself – been there, done that. I want proof that the text and paper are separate.

        April 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
      • BlackPanther2020

        Answer the question Jay , you racist coward . Are you an expert at birth ceritificate authintications....

        April 28, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
      • annie s

        Yawn, Time to give it up, Jay. Your idiocy is showing

        April 28, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • Bubba

      "The former governor of Hawaii did not look at the original birth certificate." She sent the Republican Lieutenant Governor to physically look at it. Don't be crazier than you have to be, please.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
  83. Just A Guy

    ... and these are the same clowns who want to come to your country and tell you how to live and carry your politics... shameful to the few American independents as myself...

    April 28, 2011 at 11:19 am |
  84. omegarising

    Bozo Trump out wits Obama. Bwaaahahahaha!!

    April 28, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • svann

      Right. Trump lied about his investigators and got shown to be lying just a few days later. Who showed who?

      April 28, 2011 at 11:59 am |
  85. Concerned American

    This is the most arrogant President I've ever witness. These childish and sarcastic remarks were all uncalled for. I thought he said yesterday that he had 'bigger' things to worry about and work on, so why even bring it up again. His athoritative, sarcastic campaign voice really bugs me and I voted for this man. Why?? Never again.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:26 am |
  86. w l jones

    For unbeliever I only look at my birth certificate twice when join the Army and got a marriage certificate strange. strange who show there birth certificate every day.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:31 am |
  87. Shawn

    Trump is "proud" of latching on to a totally racist, lunatic conspiracy theory that has been proven a LIE again and again and again? And yet again yesterday? It's pretty sad to see how pathetic, desperate and deranged America's right-wing fringe has become. These, Ladies and Gentlemen, are the dumbest people on Earth. We'll keep our brilliant and iconic President of the United States, and they can keep their moron reality TV stars like Palin and Trump.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:35 am |
  88. SF

    this is just all just a revised version of PURE RACISM....I think Goldie Taylor says it best;

    watch this video;


    April 28, 2011 at 11:40 am |
  89. Betty

    This is all about Obama about being black, (well, up here in the North, we call him black, down there in the toilet of the US< the deep South, y'all call him a a ni**er.....THAT'S the fact you birther idiots just can't stand, it makes your blood boil and your heart pound, and your anger reach dangerous proportions. Get over it. A black man is smarter than you! And you can't stand it!!!!!

    April 28, 2011 at 11:42 am |
  90. excitizen

    Obama is such a classy guy! I think the reason why so many on the right hate him is because he rises above their BS and shows them for the fools they are.

    And as far as Chump questioning his school transcripts, all I can say is REALLY??? Chump was kicked out of school when he was 13 for being a BULLY. He's not smart or business savy – he's a rich kid from a rich family who is still just a bully PERIOD. check out the CNN video calling him on just three of his out and out lies and how he tried to explain them away – it shows him for what he really is.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:45 am |
  91. Keven

    Obama really shouldn't make fun of mentally challenged Republicans. Not PC. They can't help being stupid red necks

    April 28, 2011 at 11:46 am |
  92. Padraig

    I do not recall a President of this country who mocks and ridicules others who does not see his way. Through out his campaign and tall hall meetings this is his weapon of choice. It shows a lack of professionalism and worse of all his ability to answer questions when someon opposes his policies.

    Instead of open dialogue and respect for each others right to speak, I find the Democratic party lacking more than the Republican party. If you need proof, read the threads on this article.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:47 am |
  93. svann

    Just a few days ago Trump claimed his investigators had uncovered evidence to back up his claim. So what happened to that?

    April 28, 2011 at 11:51 am |
  94. zanny

    NBC please cancel this swelf promoting blowhole- Donald Trump. Let us mention what is truly behind the continued disbelief of the mentally challenged – how could this country elect a black man to be President. Donald Trump is a pure racist. Now he questioning his education. Please notice the baffoon would not even look To me the person who is truly a disgrace to America is Donald Trump and if NBC had any guts, they would cancel his show next weak because he is a true example of one who is unAmerican – to disrect the President of the United Staes as he has and people like Jay are unAmerican. at the birth certificate when it was shown to him. He was too busy patting himself of the back for the President showing his birth certificate as if it was something that would change the world. Anyone who still doubts this man is a UScitizen is beyond pitiful and should be ignored the Jay's of the world will NEVER NEVER NEVER accept him as a US citizen making all people born in Hawaii not US citizens.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:53 am |
    • Jay in NC

      zanny, thank you for mentioning me in the same sentence as Mr. Trump. I am honored. He has accomplished a lot in his life. We should all be so brave to stand up for what we believe in.

      I never said that the president was not born here. I am questioning the .pdf that CNN released. Why is it multi layered? The text, official stamp and green safety paper are on separate layers. The text should be 'on' the green paper. Take a look for your self.

      Since when does questioning a multi-billion dollar corporation, like CNN, make someone unAmerican?

      April 28, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
      • VAFred

        Trump's accomplishments? He was handed millions from his grandfather and father. He was born into money. Even an idiot could become successful when they are handed millions.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
      • rahul

        brave? if you think for one second trumps actions were motivated by anything other than shameless self promotion you're a fool. I don't need a made man from a line of made men trying to convince me that they're concerned about the country in any regard outside of their own pocket. Trump would sell his own mother if it would get him better media coverage.

        April 28, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
      • Sam

        Jay, how about if I honor you by mentioning you in the same sentence as some people with whom you have a little more in common...like Josef Goebbels or Cliff Claven, just a to name a few?

        April 28, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
      • BlackPanther2020

        Really , what you need to do is get off of the computer and get a job , Mickey D's is hiring from what i've heard . Why are you so caught up on this issue anyway , if his skin was pale and ugly it wouldn't be a problem at all but since he has this beautiful brown skin his presidency is a problem for a lot of you haters , something is really really wrong with you people !!!

        April 28, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
  95. Ray in Vegas

    The fat pig Trump is now moving on to the Oxidental transcripts BS. I have never been one to buy into most "he's talking racist code" stuff that a lot of left wingers talk about ... but this is blatant and obvious. The Trumpster Dumpster is now trying to suggest that Obama only got into Columbia because of affirmative action. The man has no scruples, no morals, no class and no regard for humanity in general other than his own extremely overinflated ego. It seems like he has inflated it so much lately, however, that we might all luck out and he'll hopefully explode. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so disgustingly vile and hateful – not to mention disrespectful.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:54 am |
  96. klp2563

    There are those who will question any birth certificate the President produces to prove he was born in Hawaii. But there is more evidence that just the birth certificate. First, the birth announcement in the paper – at that time and indeed to this day, those birth announcements are placed not by the parents or relatives of the baby, but the Health Department itself. Also, the current governor of Hawaii was a personal friend of the Obamas at the time Barak was born. He visited the family in the hospital a few days after Barak's birth. Also, a woman who bore a child at the same hospital a few days before Barak was born remembers seeing Barak in the nursery. Granted she didn't have any way of identifying the baby, but considering the fact that African Americans made up less than 1% of the population in the state at the time, she is confident the baby next to her son in the nursery was Barak.

    So birth certificates aside, there is plenty of other evidence and witnesses to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that our President was born exactly where he said he was born and not one SHRED of evidence that says otherwise.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:56 am |
  97. Brett

    It is fair to say that some people don't like our president. They are welcome to their unreasonable and unjustified opinions. To what extent is it racism? Who cares? We should not be in the business of telling people how or what to think. There are people on the fringe of every political, social, religious, and scientific issue.

    The conservative and liberal utopias are two very different and unrealistic places. The conservative view is cold self preservation – the liberal view would have us embrace a culture where we are all so afraid of offending one another that we can't even speak to each other. Embrace the fact that we have our differences and lets move forward.

    April 28, 2011 at 11:56 am |
  98. KING

    did 50 million registered United States voters, vote for Obama in 2008 or wasit 50 million non-US citizens, nothing else matters except that 50 million US voters beleive he was born ib Hawaii, and voted for him, end of story, get over it birther losers

    April 28, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
  99. MAX

    Bob of PA, I'm from PA and you are so, so wrong in your thinking. You just can't let it go when it comes to talking about our President. And that will be Mr. President to you. Jay, I can't even begin to say what I would like to say to you. You are both so transparent.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
  100. Ken

    Lol... I LOVE this guy. Now thats more like it.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
  101. zanny

    sorry i corrected a typo and did not return to where I was typing. Trump refused to look at the birth certificate when someone tried o show it to him and still said"if it is true.." He and those who still doubt and question are unAmerican. They will never accept him as President they will continue to question his intelligence, his ability to write a book, his mere existence because there is no way a black man can be President or smart enough to get in Harvard without some help(like our "super intelligent George Bush(haha)That someone as politically ignorant and self promoting ego maniac as Donald Trump can be leading a Republican poll says alot for the mentality of the Republican party.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
  102. Jaywing

    Amazing, how something so silly and obviously a lie continues to fuel people who harbor racist and bigoted ideas. It's a gut response searching desperatly for a cause and justification. Unfortunately, for the 'birthers' facts get in the way, so they have to pivot and look for another cause or justification. They can not face the truth of their own racist or bigoted passions. "Birthers' are like teenagers who can't admit they're ever wrong. On another subject, have you noticed that though Donald Trump makes wind about China stealing our jobs, almost all the products which carry his brand are made in - OMG - CHINA. And the 'birthers' want to believe this clown? Really?

    April 28, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
  103. Dave

    If it's so serious then why did you not produce it in the first place and all this commotion wouldn't have been going on. How stupid a statement!

    April 28, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
  104. Whatever

    Go to whitehouse dot gov and download Obama's long form birth certificate. If you open it in Illustrator the first thing you will notice is that it has layers, this means it isn't a actual copy but rather an edited copy. If you don't have illustrator then open it in adobe reader and zoom in and look at the writing. First thing you will notice is that the all the writing has a white halo around it, this is because it has been copy and pasted from somewhere else. Next you will notice that some of the document is in vector font (very clear with sharp edges) while other parts are in bitmap fonts (blurry blocks).

    This is the same type of thing that went on with his certification of live birth that was released two years ago, why couldn't the photocopy the original document and put it out unedited? They had to know people would examine it closely yet they released an edited document.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
  105. Patriotic Enforcer

    What you socialist zombies need to understand is that: WE as American citizens have a right to ask and question our 'elected' 'leaders'. Asking for a Presidential Candidates birth certificate is not racism, its essential and required. The fabric laws of our nation require that to be proven when a person enters into the race for the Presidency.

    The race card has no business in this discussion and Trump has every right to call out Obama on the issue. Only you zombies are making this to be about Obama, it is about ensuring our laws are followed to the T and we have a responsiblity as citizens to make that happen.

    You throw the race card (are you listening Whuupppiii) when you have no other argument. Obama is a lousy President and has the backbone of a jellyfish.

    Trump 2012!

    April 28, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
  106. Right

    wasnt obamas name Barry Soreto till 1981, so how is the certificate got obama on it ? Hmmmm

    April 28, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • VAFred

      Yeah Right! Right-wing more like it It's a dead issue! Obama was born in Hawaii, is black, and is our President! "so how IS the certificate got obama on it?" Seriously? Are you related to George Bush? "How IS our children learning?" Give it up, put down yer banjo, pull the straw out of yer mouth and stop thinkin' so hard before ya set yer hair afire!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • Joefrombuffalo

      You people are totally unreal. YOu would never, ever engage in this nonsensical discourse ith the president were white.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • Nurse Lisa

      apparently the blogs you're reading have lots of errors you accept as truth without investigation – who would have thought?

      April 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Bubba

      No, it wasn't. It was Bush who was originally named Bury Sootoorootoo. I heard it on the radio.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
    • Retired Army

      Dumbest post of all-time!

      His given and official name is what's on his bith certificate.

      Why in the heck woul his 'original' name be that of his step-father vs that of his father?

      C'mon......think man......THINK!

      April 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
  107. johnny popper

    This a copy and paste text, but appears to be on point.

    What is the Deal on this Birth Certificate
    The constitution demands “natural born” so as to mitigate the possibility of “divided loyalties” *** Anyone can swear and sign the form to the registrar in Hawaii that they were a citizen of Hawaii and within the previous year gave birth. The individual gives the date/time of the birth and a document record is dually entered. Perhaps someone can inform as to whether you even need to show the baby! Doesn’t look like it from my read of the statute.


    One can get a “Certification of Live Birth” with minimal documentation and no eyewitnesses. The date of birth can be any date the person enters! This document can then be used to establish citizenship for the purpose of obtaining a passport, but its lack of physically identifying information found on the "Certification Of Live Birth" precludes it from being useful in proving "Natural Born" status.

    The normal “Birth Certificate” or "Certificate of Live Birth" often but not always contains uniquely identifying information but always has testaments from eyewitness’s (doctor, nurse, orderly) and the specific location so that it is now verifiable and traceable. What Obama’s has displayed in NOT a Birth Certificate, Even if it is real, (there are some forensic experts who say the displayed cert has signs of tampering) it does not provide any kind of traceable proof. This is not the traceable-to-an-individual “Birth Certificate” most any other American would be able to show.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
  108. Whatever

    Go to whitehouse website download Obama's long form birth certificate. If you open it in Illustrator the first thing you will notice is that it has layers, this means it isn't a actual copy but rather an edited copy. If you don't have illustrator then open it in adobe reader and zoom in and look at the writing. First thing you will notice is that the all the writing has a white halo around it, this is because it has been copy and pasted from somewhere else. Next you will notice that some of the document is in vector font (very clear with sharp edges) while other parts are in bitmap fonts (blurry blocks).

    This is the same type of thing that went on with his certification of live birth that was released two years ago, why couldn't the photocopy the original document and put it out unedited? They had to know people would examine it closely yet they released an edited document.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
  109. rsprings

    Obama mocks birthers...This is an example of why some people don't care for him personally. A president should be above mocking people. As a president you have to have a pretty thick skin. Remember what the left did to Bush??? Bush did not spend one minute on this type of nonsense.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
    • VAFred

      Yeah, Bush was spending all of his time trying to put to coherent words together. As for a thick skin, does this also mean a thick skull like Bush? Remember what the Right did to Clinton, while spending time with their own mistresses? No one asked George Bush to prove his citizenship over and over again! What they should have asked Bush to prove was whether he was even human! IS our children learning! Nue-cle-arh! What an idiot!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:25 pm |
    • Joefrombuffalo

      the birthers mock themselves wwith their farcical theories and behavior. All you have to do is describe what they do and say and you are mocking them. Bunch of cry-babys.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • Nurse Lisa

      is the birthers constant mocking of our President a reason you don't like them personally? If they want to be taken seriously politically they should be above such constant attacks based upon lies and they too should have thick skin – yeah skin that's what this is about.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
      • common thinking

        hillary clinton was the 1st one to bring up the issue of the BC!!!!!!!! and the ONLY reason it became an issue is because BHO DID NOT produce one!!! and this one is a good photoshop pdf job!!!!!!! what an embarrasment when the truth comes out!

        April 28, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
    • Max in RI

      Obama mocks everyone who criticizes him. He is a smarmy, condescending individual. Gee, does saying that make me a racist?

      April 28, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
    • Bubba

      Wow, are you kidding? Cheney and little bushie had many lies to tell about their opponents.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
    • Retired Army

      Of course Bush didn't spend one minute on "this type of nonsense".

      That's because he didn't have to deal with this nonsense....at all!

      Unless, of course, you refer to his ignoring the inquiries regarding his rampant drug use and binge drinking when he was a young man.......

      April 28, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
  110. Ray E. Georgia

    Sometimes I do think Obama thinks he is with the Good Ole Boys in some Pub and likes to take Cheap Shots. It is amateur hour for sure. I guess he thinks he just has a Blank Check. With un employment not getting any better, food prices as well as gas prices rising the National Debt growing playing the Nero Card isn't the thing to do. Any wonder his Poll Numbers are falling faster that a Roman Candle.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
  111. Marco

    @Jay in NC I'm a Repub you are still a D-Bag

    April 28, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
  112. TALKing point

    When you serve the people, they damand all requirements according to the constitution. so what wrong with asking for birth certificate? Some one said 'it's racist". WHY? When I apply for job, they ask me for driver license, SS, etc....

    April 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
  113. Stephanie Palmer

    It is amazing to me that people are so easily sucked into silly and nonsensical issues when this country has so very many really big problems. That Our system of education is failing is apparently nothing new.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:26 pm |
  114. Gallardo

    It's not surprising at all at the amount of ignorance and bigotry the republican party and those tea baggers posses. And Donald Trump with his comb over, come on. He's a f@#%ing idiot who has no clue. Come up with an agenda to better this Country. It took 8 years to plunge this great country into peril. It's going to take more than that to get us back. If we ever come back. Which would not surprise me considering the lack of focus on education in this country. What President Obama has done is incredible. President Obama is setting the foundation for our recovery while preparing us for the future. We were hit with an economic tsunami (which we created). We all saw the devastation of the tsunami in Japan. We all know it is going to take them years possibly decades to get back to where they were. Well that's us folks. That's us. It is going to take us years possibly decades to get back to where we were. Enough with race, enough with this peddly bs. And show some respect. Regardless if you like him or not, agree with him or not, he is our Commander and Chief. We all need to address him as President. I didn't care for either Bush but they were my Commander and Chief and this is my Country and they were my Presidents. Enough is enough. Either we all stand united are we fall divided. The future of this great nation rests with us, so wake up!!

    April 28, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
  115. Erin

    I keep wondering what Obama's mom would feel like watching all this unfold. I would if its best that she is not with us anymore to witness this. Having enduring the pain of child birth and seeing people question the legality of it. This is extremely disturbing.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
  116. Jake

    Now that Obama has come clean and release his real original birth certificate he should do the same regarding his Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records.

    Obama needs to quit stonewalling, quit the cover-up, and live up to his promise to have the "most open, honest and transparent White House in history".

    It is pathetic and disgusting that Obama continues to vilify Americans who seek the truth.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
    • Joefrombuffalo

      Are you freaking kidding me? Do you think that the President of the Un ited States has nothing better to do than to run errands for you right wing kooks? Get a grip. Better yet, take your medication.

      April 28, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
    • Ray in Vegas

      There is now way you are not a racist. If you look into your heart you will see that. This has nothing to do with disagreeing with the man's policies ... it has to do with your vile, racist, unfounded, attacks on his character. Why is it that in private life, people can be sued for slander, but if you are a sitting president it's totally open season. I wouldn't have it any other way, but people used to have more class. There are no reasonable controls anymore when it comes to publishing tabloid nonsense in so-called mainstream, "respectable" news outlets, present company not excluded. I supposed, however, that is always best to keep cockroaches (no offense to the roaches) exposed in the light to be able to fumigate more effectively. What vermin you are!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • Jaywing

      Actually Jake, it's pathetic and mildy disgusting that people like you can't handle the truth. By the way, when is the next KKK meeting? I heard from Donald Trump you send out the invitations. Oh, you're not in the KKK? Prove it!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • VAFred

      Because "those" Americans aren't seeking the truth, they are seeking "their" truth. It is not about Obama nor the truth, it IS about the upcoming election. That is the only TRUTH! They don't have a candidate that can stand up to Obama, so they need to try to lower Obama down to their level. If Obama releases all that "the powers that want to be" ask for, it is going to just embarrass them even further! You don't get into and graduate from Columbia or Harvard Law School through affirmative action. You don't publish in the Harvard Law Review through affirmative action. Additionally, why should he release them? Let the "powers that want to be" go get them. I'm sure there is a like-minded person with access to his records that could get them for the "powers that want to be". But that wouldn't be good enough. They need to create the illusion that Obama doesn't WANT to release his records. This creates the illusion of stonewalling and a cover-up. With all the problems we have today, should he have to worry about taking the time to release every little piece of recorded history in his past? He has other things to do!

      What is pathetic and disgusting is the ridicule that the "powers that want to be" keep putting the President of America through. All in the eyes of the world! Who is laughing while watching the Americans are bickering over the scraps of a once great and proud country? All the countries that hate America!

      April 28, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • rahul

      what drugs are you on?

      April 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • Steve NY

      I cant tell if you're joking.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Slowgun

      Don't forget is liibrary card
      His YMCA membership card
      His Blockbusters Video membership card
      His shoe size
      His gym locker combination
      His triple A membership card...

      Jake thanks for proving what folks have been saying all along. That even if he dod show the long version of his birth certificate, lunatics like you and Jay would still say it is fake, or isn't good enough.

      Can someone please tell me how all of these moronic loser took over the republican party...my party?

      April 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • Sam

      What's disgusting that you birther twits continue to ask a black president to produce documents that you wouldn't have dared to ask any white man holding that office to produce. Aren't you just the slightest bit ashamed of yourself?

      April 28, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • Slowgun

      If you really wanted the truth then you'd realize you have had it for over two years.
      Fact is most sane people understand that your agenda has nothing to do with the truth.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Graybeard

      Hey, Jake, can we require that of every one of the Republican contenders as well? And if they can't produce something ...... well, then they can't run.

      This isn't "truth" seeking, dude. Quit trying to fool yourself.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • BlackPanther2020

      @jake , now did any other president have to show their college , highschool and elementary school records , I geuss Obama is the only one that's asked these questions , simply because he's a bit more intelligent than you . If this man could make it rain that wouldn't be enough for you , let's get real about this period , Whites have a big problem with a lot black people who they deem an uppidty negro...............thats' just sickening....

      April 28, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
  117. Marley

    Thank God for Trump!

    He has been able to do what nobody else has been able to do:

    Get Sarah Palin out of the news!

    Trump > Palin


    April 28, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
  118. Jack in Florida

    Good for Barack......these nut jobs that think there is a conspiracy are nothing but racists!!

    April 28, 2011 at 12:36 pm |
  119. Why J in NC has ignored the fadts

    The documents about G. W. Bush's 'service' record were not proven false. The person who obtained them backed out of publicly acknowledging that he obtained them since he correctly feared retribution from a corrupt regime.

    It was no different than a witness being intimidated out of testifying at a trial of a gang member.

    And no answer was ever provided for why Bush ducked out on his service, refusing to take the physical needed to continue. It was reported and verified that this was due to Bush's cocaine use which would show up in the urine test portion of the physical.

    We understand you will try to rewrite history. You don't understand that will never work. You are a fool and a liar.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
  120. kingofnb

    BOY aren't gas prices unbeleivably high, OH I'm sorry I didn't mean to raise such a stupid subject like that, NOW lets get to something real life or death serious, do you guys think that a real birth certificate or not, PLEASE lets discuss this for at least another six months, every minute of every day, PLEASE

    April 28, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
  121. Betty

    Hey Jake...

    \Don't you ALSO demand to know how many white women he had sex with?????

    April 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
  122. David in Seattle

    Question for the Birthers: How do you know anything is real? Maybe the rest of the world is just in your imagination. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter whether the world is real or not. It doesn't really matter where the President was born. Get a life. Or get a job and stop wasting time posting comments.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
  123. REG in AZ

    Give it up people and get serious. It is time to realize that who you hurt is yourself and others like you, all of us, with the ridiculous defense of your biases. Drop the biases, the prejudices, the emotions and the dogmatic, stubborn and idiotic defense of them. There are people out there who are trying desperately to use and exploit those narrow minded positions and it costs everyone except the very few when they are successful (ref. Bush-Cheney). You don't even have to like the Obamas or ever become a Democrat but in your own best interests, recognize that to be against them and favor the Republicans is self-defeating as the current Republicans (Tea Party incl.) are literally just 'puppets' for Special Interests and the influential, powerful and extremely wealthy few who strongly support them and 'pull their strings'. You may not like that but to ignore it, to deny it, is to reject reality and to play into the hands of those aggressively trying to con, manipulate, use and abuse you. It isn’t as if it is hard to see, it is all right there, obvious in their arrogant self-serving actions, their stubborn efforts to deceive and their costly total concentration on just the few. It is well past the time to 'wake up and smell the roses', for your own good.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • Jake

      Wow Reg, you have certainly created an elaborate fantasy to justify your support of Obama.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
      • Nurse Lisa

        just as the teabaggers have created elaborate fantasies to justify their mistrust of Obama.

        April 28, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
      • Jake

        $4 gas is no fantasy.

        April 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
      • Nurse Lisa

        ? huh?- I didn't suggest that expensive gas is a reason anyone mistrusts Obama. Overly expensive gas in the face of record profits for oil companies who have the GOP in their pockets is a reason I mistrust many others though not Obama.

        April 28, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
      • Jake

        @ Nurse, you are delusional if you think that gasoline prices are at record levels because of oil company "profits". Gas is expensive because of Obama's anti-drilling policies... he just made a $4 billion dollar investment by Shell Oil worthless because of unsubstantiated fears that exhaust from a boat would bother a village 70 miles away, he refuses to permit a pipeline to bring in oil from Canadian oil shale fields, he has banned exploration of oil on public lands, he has banned oil drilling on proven reserves and he threatens the economy on an ill-conceived central plan "carbon tax", he forments unrest in the Middle East and his advisors publically agitate for high gasoline taxes to subsidize otherwise uneconomical "alternate energy"... you bet $4 gas is Obama's fault and Americans know it.

        April 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
      • Retired Army

        Jake, you're right.....$4 a gallon gas is no fantasy. It's also not unique.

        If I recall correctly (and I do) , in 2008 gas was over $4 a gallon. And who was President at that time?

        Yeah.....that's what I thought. Selective amnesia strikes the 'fringe right'......again.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
      • Jake

        Yeah, Army since your memory is so good you know who the democrats blamed and you remember that $4 gas put financial pressure on sub-prime borrowers who defaulted and then... well you know the rest.

        Maybe instead of taking to the podium to spare with Trump over something that isn't "serious" (let one of his lackeys do it), or playing footsie with Oprah, or darting from fundraiser to fundraiser, he could focus for a minute on actually solving the gas price crisis... after all his re-election depends on it.

        The election won't be a referendum on his promises... it'll be on his (lack) of accomplishments.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
      • Retired Army

        Yep.....I remember who was blamed. But regardless of that, my point was that the $4 a gallon gas that we have is not unique.

        But......I find it interesting that you tie those gas prices to the financial crash of 2008.

        I guess Republican governance is truly ate the hell up.....because I'm pretty sure that no such crash is in our immediate future.

        And you assume that whatever Obama's been doing in the past week keeps him from doing his job. HOW SIMPLE MINDED OF YOU......to assume that because Republicans are to mentally slow to multi-task, that Democrates must also be......

        April 28, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
    • Bubba

      Not elaborate really, in fact it fits the principle of least hypothesis, which I'm sure you studied in school. No? Logic too, often called William of Occam's Razor? The most likely explanation is usually true. Dr House says "When you hear hoofbeats, don't look for zebras."

      April 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
  124. Slowgun

    @Jay in NC

    Yesterday I posted about this at least twice. Each time a Liberal called me names, (like you did) however no one has taken a look at CNN's .pdf and said that I was wrong. Here are the links to the other post I made on this subject.

    Hi Jay,

    I'm not a liberal. I am a conservative Republican and I am about to call you a name...You are a lunatic!
    Please stop making are party look like a bunch of morons. And take, Palin, Bachman, Rush, and Trump with you.
    God are there any Republicans out there that will actually adress the issues that are hurting our country.

    April 28, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
  125. blake

    Mock away Mr. President. But you have given the American people many reasons to question whether you were born in the U.S.
    1) it took you two years to produce the document you did yesterday, despite repeated requests for you to do so
    2) the geographical roots and ideological background of your father
    3) your anti-American, new world order agenda
    4) your anti-captialist, Marxist agenda

    April 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Eric

      Keep it coming birthers. Surely the Republican convention will stink of it.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • Sam

      blake, you are a vile, small-minded person. And a racist as well. Please go away.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • Slowgun


      Stop pretending that you speak for all Americans.
      You are only speaking for the Palin, Bachman, Trump crowd...what pools say is about 10%...the lunatic frenge.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • Re: Blake

      He provided the document several times, you could even purchase it from Hawaii for $100 bucks, because none of you watch anything but Fox News, and naturally they never told you. Secondly, the 'anti-American, new world order' nonsense...once again, Fox drivel. If you honestly believe that line of thought, do yourself a favor, google 'camp bohemia' and when the pictures come up...why don't you identify the first people you will see wearing the robes sitting in front of that bonfire..99% of them are Republicans. So maybe you should do a little more research on Saudi funded Fox and actually step back and get the real picture. And thirdly, you people say communist..simply because he is against the fascist takeover currently being attempted in this country. Democrats do NOT want big business running the country...period. Just look at our wonderful healthcare system...people die every day for basic services because they are excluded...You people amaze me..because you always seem to think, that somehow you will always be excluded from that treatment..guess what, you won't.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • Jake

      Blake, the more virulently they denigrate you for questioning Obama the closer you are cutting to the bone... keep up the good work.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
      • Slowgun

        yes Blake...keep it up. Keep showing everyone what a bunch of morons you folks are and we'll all be stuck with Obama for 4 more years.
        Pleas all Teabaggers, Birthers, Palin, Bachman, and Trump followers, leave the republican party so that we can gain some credibilty back.

        April 28, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • ThinkAgain

      I started to try to explain things to you, but I've got better things to do with my life that argue with an idiot.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
      • Jake

        I don't blame you for calling it quits... you got nothing.

        April 28, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
      • Bubba

        He's got pencils to sharpen.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
      • Retired Army

        Or maybe he has better things to do than to argue with idiots........

        April 28, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
      • Jake

        @ Army, he'd have to have an argument to be tired of arguing... he has only bumper sticker slogans to spout.

        April 28, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • Texan

      Shame on your ignorance. President Obama does not have to produce such a document. You must an illegal here. What are your roots and idelological background of your father and your mother?. You are the anti-American for having such disrespect to your president and fellow Americans. Obviously, you don't have any idea what Marxism is. Leave your emotions and use your reason; if you have any.

      People like you, with a personal agenda to disminish others without weighing facts, human nature, and complex matters beyond your understanding are the big problem of this country. Why? very simple. People like you comprise the obstacles to solve problems by compromising within different ideologies. Please, emigrate to a country of your liking and stop hurting America.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • RobertFTL

      Republicans started this whole antigovernment sentiment which has spiraled out of control. This “birther” movement came out of the Republican Party and they used it for short term politics. Now when Republicans see this is hurting them in the polls, they all come out of the woodworks and start defending the President and the fact that he was BORN IN THE USA. They had over two years to put the kibosh on this topic and didn’t. Now constituents are not listening to their elected Republican officials. The GOP has created a monster they can’t control and it will hurt them seriously come 2012. The Republican Party needs to stop with short term politics to get in positions to take away from Americans what they made you fear most about Democrats.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
  126. After-birther

    As an AFTER-birther, I'm not convinced until I see the placenta, and there's a DNA match against the alleged mother.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
  127. Jane

    We have such a classy president (add sarcasm here). I would think he would have better things to do and talk about than mocking people. Act like an adult.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
  128. Texan

    Mr. President, you had and have all my respect. Even more so when in your presidency, not only there are numerous serious domestic and foreign issues, but all sorts of personal attacks from people that do not care about this country. They only care about themselves and their agenda.

    You have my vote.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
  129. AEK

    Thank God! FInally we can put this issue behind us and I personally want to thank Donald Trump for his wonderful work making it happen. As a long time liberal Democrat I now see a REAL leader emerging in Mr. Trump and encourage him to keep the momentum rolling and commit to run for President of the United States! I, for one, would put away my evil liberal notions and vote for this man in a minute!

    (Teehee! Only hope this works! We need four more years with President Obama! Shhhhhhhh...)

    April 28, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  130. ThinkAgain

    Think about these facts: The Republicans in 2010 said that "Obamacare" would gut Medicare and basically kill off grandma. Folks succumbed to these scare tactics and voted in a Republican majority in the House.

    Ryan's Republican budget calls for ... you guessed it: gutting Medicare and killing off grandma's children and grandchildren.

    Oh, and all the noise the Republicans were making about the need to create jobs? All they've done is propose social legislation that supports their rightwing religious nutjob ideology and making the Bush tax cuts permanent, even though after 10 years, THERE ARE NO JOBS!

    If our country insists on voting Republican and for Republican policies, we'll have no one to blame but ourselves for going to Hades in a handbasket!

    April 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • AEK

      Yep! Where are those jobs again? Hard to actually have to govern once you've been elected. Republicans...America is watching!

      April 28, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  131. steve

    Yep I watched Big Brother when dysfunctional people seem to make more headway I quit viewing. I don't watch trump, he can't stay married or even vote or keep an American woman as his wife. Now he can go and waste what ever fortune he has running for President, he can talk out of the bottom half of his underside and he even will get an indepth audience. But he will never become anything other than a schuckstir a schmuck a second or third rated canidate. So waste your appettie take your antacids and loss money on trump thats all you'll get from him and I sincerly hopes he actually runs so he can lose like Whitman did in Califonia. We hear nothing fom the Ebay loser.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
  132. Lars

    So why didn't he just reveal this a long time ago, even in the campaign? There were circumstances that warranted someone asking the question. While I was never a birther, he could have dealt with this once and for all and concentrated on what was really important. Again, shows me how little class he has.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
  133. ellen Frenkel

    The reheaded IDIOT has no BRAIN and is soooo envious of a BLACK MAN who has much more knowledge he could ever have.T.is missing the back of his head where the brains are.I have never seen a flat head such as Trumps,a horse must have kicked him.EAF

    April 28, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
  134. DC Insider

    Glad to see the POTUS is busy on his Campaign Trail instead of working our Country. I mean seriously, what is up with this. I hope he heads to Alabama to see the destruction the Tornadoes caused. And please, stop campaigning. You won, now get back to work helping our Country get out of this mess.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  135. ATL Guy

    So what else do these crazy lunatic idiots in the Republican Party need? Do they need a Youtube video of the birth? Do they need the bed sheets used in the hospital? What is wrong with these clowns? Seriously, nothing Obama puts out there will convice these crazies. They are pure nutso and they just don't know it in their crazy delusional minds. Case closed. Don't even bother arguing with those idiots.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
  136. RoninIrvine

    Computer experts have declared the birth certificate to have been changed 24 times. See the Gateway Pundit article posted by Jim Hoft on April 27. http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/04/critics-obamas-latest-long-form-birth-certificate-is-a-fake/

    IIf you have Adobe Illustrator on your computer, first download the pdf of the birth certificate posted by the White House, open the pdf in Illustrator and then follow the instructions in the article. You will see the 24 changes made to the file. Thousands of people have already done this to see it for themselves.

    Next, ask yourself why Obama's birth certificate (filed on Aug 8) has a higher number than the Nordyke birth certificate filed Aug 11, 1961. That's a big problem for Obama.

    II expect to see sworn affidavits filed in federal court and presented to the Supreme Court calling this document problematic and possibly a forgery. We may be seeing President Boehner in our near future... If Obama is ineligible, then the Obama-Biden ticket is ineligible and Boehner is the next in line.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
  137. dafly1

    This whole thing is laughable and I am glad the President is having fun with it, just to show how stupid the birthers look. They have a strategy. If you say falsehoods over and over again, you begin to make people believe it is true. They say, "He was born in Kenya and a Muslim." No, he was born in Hawaii, and is a Christian. "He is is a tax and spend guy". No, he actually has cut taxes. He has set out a plan to cut spending, and just signed the largest spending cut ever. Did he have to spend money to prevent us to get out of a very close Great Depression 2? You betcha! 🙂 The bottom line is, it is the mission of crazy peopl and people that don't agree or like him, to demonize him. It is easy for them. His name is Barack Obama. It is a foreign name of course, they say. Well it is now 2011, and guess what, there has been a lot more immigration, and naturally born American Citizens 35 years from now, that will have non conventional names. This is nothing more than trying to make white males inparticular uneasy and that "there America is being taken away." This is coming from a 33 year old educated gay white male, with a culturally diverse background (friends, family, extended family, co-workers of a global background).

    April 28, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
  138. NoTax

    Obama play his card too earlier. He has bad director of his reality show

    April 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • Jake

      You English good.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
  139. RoninIrvine

    I must have a typo there. Obama's birth certificate is stamped saying it was filed Tuesday Aug 8. The Nordykes was filed Friday, Aug 11. Every time a birth certificate is stamped, the counter increases by one. How then is Obama's number higher than the Nordyke twins?

    April 28, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
  140. Cyg

    Funny how no one mentions that McCain was born in Panama – obviously not the United States and another country with a US base in it doesn't count – so why does he get to skate? He also sold arms to Libya, then scolded the president for getting involved, goes there for the rebels and then tells the president he isn't doing enough. Does GOP have any clue what they are doing from one day to the next?

    April 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
  141. Shari from Madison WI

    Trump is an absolute Moron! He is an elitist b–trd who only acknowledges facts that he has made up.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
  142. Jaywing

    So, Jake, do you speak (or write) a language other than bigot?

    April 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
  143. oldtimer

    Anyone that will vote for this retard in the next election is as stupid as he is. Had the birth certificate been produced on the onset, none of this charade need to have happened. Put the blame directly on Obumer.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
    • KRS1

      Did you ever think that maybe he intentionally didn't release his birth certificate? You are only upset because the fact that people held onto this issue and the whole birther motion came about your party now looks petty and stupid. It's actually pretty funny if you think about it, the stupid republicans are trying their hardest to keep the less-stupid republicans from winning any elections. Keep complaining about the birth certificate, that's a solid way to win in 2012.

      April 28, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    • Bubba

      Dummy, it was released two years ago. This is the same thing. What don't you get? You were fooled bigtime and now you hate to admit it. Give up.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
    • Retired Army

      OldTimer.......apparently you think that people on the left are as gullible as the teabagging birthers.

      Just as they have jump to new areas of 'questioning' (Obama's education) regarding Obama's background......EVEN IF HE HAD released the long form BC two.....or three.....years ago, the birther crown would have latched on to some other non-issue.

      Hateful people can't help but to hate. They will do it....they HAVE to do it....because to not hate would be to admit that their candidate was not the better man in 2008.....and they must come to grips that most Americans did not view the world as they view.

      Nope.....far easier to hate and anything about this man.....they will hate. PERIOD!

      April 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
  144. Cindy

    Why didn't he just prove it up front, and get on with it. Just think of all the money and bull that could have been saved! IDIOTS!!!!

    April 28, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
  145. fvw50

    Candidate Obama could have and should have put this to rest three years ago when Hillary Clinton first broached the subject. However, Mr Transparency waited until 2+ years in his presidency to finally show the American public this document.

    I'm curious, why with all the issues confronting our country – a rapidly approaching debt ceiling, an unfunded and not approved 'war' in Libya, a non-existent plan (a framework perhaps, but not a plan) by this administration for deficit reduction (notice he is not addressed federal debt which continues to grow) and by his own admission 'serious issues to confront' – why does Obama fly to Chicago to appear on the Oprah show and fly to New York for multiple fund raisers? Just wondering...

    I'm also curious why Obama needs to raise $1B for his campaign? If he's done such an outstanding job, can he not just run on his record?

    April 28, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
  146. jRDawizkid

    President Obama was vetted and sworn in as President of the United States of North America, twice for one term. He is President, earned it, used nothing more than his intellect, talent, hard work and dedication. The pain, blood, sweat, tears, and horror of millions of slaves, tortured, hung, lynched, murdered, and total utter hatred to people whose only crime was being "1/3 of a person" or "just pain old existing" has not been atoned nor forgiven. We swept it under the rug in the name of so called equality.
    It is totally unacceptable to this nation full of racist's/ bigots, whom continue to commit the same Evil acts (we destroyed Nazi Germany for) that a Black Man is President. Our nation is Evil, deserves whats coming to it, and does not appreciate that a MAN like President Obama did not very well punish each and every Caucasian living in America (just to feel good out of well deserved revenge) the very nano-second he took office. By sitting back and allowing President Obama to re-disclose his identity and national origin when he was vetted prior to EARNING the nomination is total abhorrent.

    I hear people say, seen bumper stickers, t shirts and media personalities saying "I have nothing against his (President Obama) black half, its his white half which is the problem" ( this in itself is the utter pure example of racist bigotry. But in their minds, its OK because they said that they have nothing against his black half half.)

    Shame on us, Shame on America.
    Reverend Wright is correct and right.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
    • jRDawizkid

      ITs good to see that the President has a sense of humor. Real funny actually.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
  147. Not Convinced

    So which one is real? The Hawaiin Certificate or the Mobassa Certificate at http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com ??

    April 28, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
  148. Realityblowz

    Who cares if he was born on Mars? The elite media developed him as their puppet from the get go. Arguing where he was born is like saying "Hey, that sock puppet's nose is not on straight, it is not a real puppet". I find the mindless masses of humanity simply astounding. Kind of like watching a squirrle cross a busy freeway. They just don't realize the actual situation.

    April 28, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
  149. Paul

    I think a reasonable person looks at this story and thinks, "well why not just release your long form birth certificate from the beginning?" I mean regardless of how stupid this whole discussion was, some of the blame falls on Barack himself for not getting this out sooner...I mean why wait? And in terms of racism, that is a cop out to playing the race card there Barack. I believe there were questions about McCain's legimitacy as a candidate because he was born on a militray base in Panama. How quickly we forget:


    April 28, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
  150. jRDawizkid

    For those whom need clarification. I am saying that no one has retaliated against the atrocities of the past America's GREAT CIVIL RIGHTS HOLOCAUST because the people whose ancestors experienced such atrocities are on a better moral standard than those whom committed the atrocity to them. They overcame, tried to moved on, and just want to enjoy the fruits of their labor, pain no matter how small and hard it took to EARN what they have.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
  151. Lauren Cook

    Ok folks: I am and have been a forensic document and signature expert with the US Government for 24 years. I have looked at the most recently released birth certificate of one Barack Hussein Obama and here is my expert opinion. The birth certificate is a very good specimen whowever a very good in fact an expert forgery. The fonts, date stamps and signatures have different layers therefore placed on the documet by a very modern photo editing software recently and could not be from 1961 as thechnology of this very new.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
  152. John

    Liberals are funny. They don't see a problem with asking President Bush for his school records, service records and a military transfer order (which the democrats forged the first time). The libs got there documents without Hillary Clinton asking in 2007, 100's of thousand of voters (the liberal media calls birthers), and finally Mr Trump demanding the document in 2011. Obama has a lady Judith Curley write a letter on Good Friday and over the Easter Holiday the magic Birth Certificate comes from Hawaii to Washington. Obama is shady.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
  153. cathstar

    I was embarrassed to be an American yesterday. The President of the United States should not have needed to produce an additional birth certificate to attempt to shut up the likes of Trump and the other birthers. They are a bunch of narrow-minded bigots who now don't believe that the longer version of the certificate is authentic. They will never be satisfied as long as Obama is President. They still can't accept the fact that McCain/Palin lost. Thank God they did!!!

    April 28, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
  154. norma wilkinson Long Beach Cal.


    April 28, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • T

      SHAME ...............this is a shame don't you know that the President has feelings, just like everyone else and what about his family ? Come on people your hate will drive you nuts. You don't like him because he is a person of color, and that's ok you the one have to live with that but he is doing great things and he is for the people. Some are talking about him and spreading lies like he is not himan. SHAME SHAME SHAME

      April 28, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • John

      Dear Ms Caps Lock,
      Obama's drug addicted father was African. Obama was named Obama because his father was Obama. His 17 year old underage mother (at conception) was not the smartest hooker in the bunch. SO, AMERICAN QUESTIONED.... Obama is weak for trying to hide the certificate from Hillary Clinton in 2007. 4 years of asking... Trump demanded it. Obama is a chump that got beat by Trump.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
      • aminmd

        He has to account for NONE (in caps) of his parents' actions, beliefs, or the conditions under which he was conceived and born. Nothing. You have no right to ask. Have you provided your parents' birth certificates to anyone for a job, to get married, or even to register for school? Quit asking and get on with doing something productive or at least compassionate.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
      • DAS

        Regardless of your opinion of President Obama, what does anything that you said have anything to do with what she originally said. You nor anyone in America can amswer her simple question: What other elected US president was asked for over 2 years to show their birth certificate, even after they were elected in a landslide victory? Who? That's why people are calling it racist. Not that you don't agree with Obama's policies. This has nothing to do with his administration's policies.

        This has totally to do with the fact that you and others have a completely different standard on our President's legitimate citizenship, that no other president has EVER had to go through for 2 years. You are acting as if Obama hasn't met a new set of standards. That's why.

        April 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
      • Jake

        Why disparage Stanley Ann Dunham with allegations she was a prostitute? The truth is scandalous enough: she was 17 years old when she conceived Obama and gave birth to him 6 months after his father married her. Obama Sr. was a drug addict. His mother did leave a very unconventional life... even today it is unusual for an underage girl to conceive out of wedlock from a man of another race, then move to another country and marry another man from yet another race... it was downright unheard of in 1960-61. One can surmise she had some sort of "daddy issue" with her military father and got as far away from him and anything that reminded her of him.

        April 28, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
    • Bubba

      "John" was named after his father by his 15-year-old prostitute mama, who was so dumb she TGIF on her shoes. Dear John, you are trying to argue with someone who leaves the capslock on. I bet you yell at squirrels in the park, too. Get a life.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
  155. Dave D

    Looks like obama has found time for this silliness after all.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
  156. norma wilkinson Long Beach Cal.


    April 28, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
    • Jake

      Norma if anyone is making things up it is you... so take your advice and shut up.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
  157. RobertFTL

    Republicans started this whole antigovernment sentiment which has spiraled out of control. This “birther” movement came out of the Republican Party and they used it for short term politics. Now when Republicans see this is hurting them in the polls, they all come out of the woodworks and start defending the President and the fact that he was BORN IN THE USA. They had over two years to put the kibosh on this topic and didn’t. Now constituents are not listening to their elected Republican officials. The GOP has created a monster they can’t control and it will hurt them seriously come 2012. The Republican Party needs to stop with short term politics to get in positions to take away from Americans what they made you fear most about Democrats.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
  158. yellowdog

    Barack Obama is from the 4th Dimension. He was born on the a planet not in our solar system and transported to Earth at the beginning of time. When he has succeeded in establishing not the 3rd Caliphate as the Earthling Beck suggests, but the 3rd Etahpilac – he will begin shipping white infants to us via a transmogrifier. It is hoped that the food thus provided will allow us to colonize other solar systems. Only Jay in NC has discovered the truth. He must be stopped!

    April 28, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
    • T

      Jay please take cover

      April 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm |
  159. Kim C

    I hope Donald Trump pays for this mess. On my facebook and email post everyone is going to ban Donald Trump

    April 28, 2011 at 2:15 pm |
  160. Big_D

    FOX should be charged with subversion over this. FOX is owned by a Saudi who is manipulating our political system. His name is Alwaleed and the facts are stranger than fiction.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
  161. achipotle

    I guess the burning question now is, is he circumcised? I think we need proof.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
  162. reardon

    LOVE HOW OBAMA PLAYS WITH THE RACISTS. Hey middle class, wake up and vote Democrat ACROSS THE BOARD in 2012. Don't forget how the GOP nearly destroyed our beloved land in past 10 years and recognize how AMAZINGLY well Obama has handled our nation (teetering on the brink). We all know what EVERY republican is thinking....how come we have to answer to this black dude....and what BS can I trump up to get southern bigots to vote for us in large numbers. THATS IT. CASE CLOSED.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
  163. Big_D

    The job killing GOP is following the lead of FOX. FOX is owned by a SAUDI!!! They hate America except for stealing our money. This would be an act of subversion in wartime if we had control over America. America’s government is controlled by Saudi money. Gas prices prove it!

    April 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
    • John

      6 year of Pelosi the GOP had nothing to do with it.... How could they with a job killing democratic party in control. Carter also had 10+% unemployment. OH NO I MUST BE A RACIST, but I don't watch FOX, the tea party, or white.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
    • VAFred

      Fox is owned by News Corporation and Rupert Murdock (An Australian). I don't doubt he has some Saudi backers, but he doesn't have anyone's agenda but his own.

      April 29, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  164. GOP Hate America

    In the end it does not matter. They will never show proof Obama was born outside the US and he will still be president in 2012. Keep hammering this issue birther nuts since you know conservatives have no answers to the tough problems they caused all these years.we'll just vote obama back into office and keep helping this country back on track.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm |

    @ Jay NC
    Not only are you a birther,.. but you're also a racist and a hater.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
  166. Dare 2 Know

    Divisive double standards and rhetoric – all this obsessive focus on Obama, his birth certificate, his grades, his social security number, his “socialism”, his “religion”, his “adding to the debt”, his “running up the deficit – etc, etc, etc, yak, yak, yak!!!!

    The only thing that really matters in that list is about the debt and deficit – and what was the Republican record??

    >Ronald Reagan increased the size of government and doubled the national debt from $1.5 trillion to $3 trillion.

    George Bush (the first one) increased the size of government and increased the national debt from $3 trillion to $4.5 trillion.

    Bill Clinton> inherited the fiscal mess of the previous two administrations and in his first term he added $2 trillion to the national debt, which then totaled $6.5 trillion. By his second term, however, Clinton had balanced the budget and was paying the debt down by half a trillion.

    George Bush (the last one) promised smaller government and fiscal responsibility. He increased the size of government and increased the national debt by $5.5 trillion.

    But all those opposed to Obama is rant about is him and the Democrats increasing the size of government, adding to the debt and deficit – just like Republicans have done their in every one of their last administrations – so stop already with the hypocrisy, the double-standards, the b.s., and let’s all get to work on DEMANDING from all of our elected representatives “on both sides of the isle”, from all representative political parties to:

    1) Balance the budget
    2) Enact the Balanced Budget Amendment
    3) Pay down the debt and deficit on an accelerated schedule
    4) Get oil production started immediately from all domestic resources
    5) Develop alternative fuel sources/transportation designs matching the pace of oil exploration/production
    6) Level the tax “playing field” for all individuals and corporations (“Fair Tax”, consumption tax, flat tax, maybe?)
    7) Reduce duplicative and unnecessary bureaucracy at all levels of government
    8) Secure our borders, all of them, with all the resources that are needed to do so
    9) Act responsibly as a “world citizen” but stop trying to be the world’s “police”
    10) All elected officials at all levels of local, state, and national government start acting as Statesmen representing the people instead of Gladiators representing a party or ideology

    So let’s let just this much be common ground among us – even if that's all you can tolerate as "common ground" – and let's get to work on our elected representatives to actually get this done!

    April 28, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
    • VAFred

      Great facts! Unfortunately, the "powers that want to be" do not want the public to know the facts! That is why all this other BS is going on! Watch this hand, not that one...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! As long as we keep their eyes and minds on something else, they won't pay attention to what is really going on!

      April 29, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  167. Tice 1

    There are ways to tame a spoiled brat....


    April 28, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
  168. beefromNJ

    amen, KRS1. Obama is very clever. He knows that this Birther crap being spewed by the republicans is killing their reputation. So he waited and let them dig themselves in a hole so deep those snakes can't climb out. Then he came out with the birth certificate, which i don't think he has to provide to these nut jobs anyway. Jay in NC get a life. Who actually has time to examine a d#*m birth certificate. you're no expert. No thanks, don't want to look. i don't have to. I know my president is legitimate. God Bless you President Obama for being strong enough to put up with all of the BS that comes your way. Obama/Biden 2012. You have my vote.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
  169. Former Soldier

    Ok, I am from NC, and a white male. So, i just have to say, please don't judge all of us in this state on Jay. We are truly sorry that the NC school system has failed so miserably that our folks are unable to understand facts. Seriously, we are sorry. Great line in movie Charlie Wilson's War, "as long as they are investigating him for doing blow with hookers in a hotel in Vegas, we can park a battleship on the front door". Now, if that isn't the comprehensive Republican BIrther Abortion, Christian, ant-Muslim, NRA ultra right wing approach to politics....... Wake up AMerica, they are stealling your belongings and getting you to help them do it.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
  170. beefromNJ

    amen, KRS1. Obama is very clever. He knows that this Birther crap being spewed by the republicans is killing their reputation. So he waited and let them dig themselves in a hole so deep those snakes can't climb out. Then he came out with the birth certificate, which i don't think he has to provide to these nut jobs anyway. Jay in NC get a life. Who actually has time to examine a d#*m birth certificate. you're no expert. No thanks, don't want to look. i don't have to. I know my president is legitimate. God Bless you President Obama for being strong enough to put up with all of the BS that comes your way. Obama/Biden 2012. You have my vote.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
  171. kayla


    April 28, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
    • JohnM

      Jesus isn't God's son. I' ve known his parents for about five years and he was born only three years ago. I've seen his birth certificate and it clearly shows Linda and Fernando are his parents.

      April 28, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
  172. Elizabeth

    Lord a'mighty! Do any of you have jobs or anything to do today?! I was born in Detroit and only have a certificate of birth. Do you want to investigate my citizenship? The author is dead on straight. It is racism pure and simple. Please honestly ask yourselves if we would be having this discussion if the president was not "an uppity negra in the Whitehouse." I just knew when he was running that nastly little bugs of bigotry that people did not even know they possessed would be crawling out of their brains. Disagree with his policies if you must, but this nonsense has to stop. As Jon Stewart said: "Do we have to interview the babies who were with him in the nursery in Hawaii to see if they remember him?" He is President. Get over it!!

    April 28, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
  173. Waleed

    With all the racism and hate this president has had to face, he is being extremely presidential. What other president has had to "Show their papers" like my ancestors had to during slavery and Jim Crow? And I know what you liars will say "he is playing the race card," Well if I am not telling the truth, then how come if you go to any blog on "Red State" or any other Republican website and read the reaction to Donald Trumps latest allegations over Obama's grades, they say such things as "Another black that doesn't deserve it," or "just another lazy black getting by on affirmative action." It is as if, when I point out that there is a fly in my bread pudding, you keep insisting that it is just a raisin. Blacks are not fools and we are watching this, and believe me, we are becoming more convinced that we will never vote Republican. Think about that the next time you say "Why are all the blacks voting Democrat? They must be racist." No, we are just smarted than you give us credit for.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
    • Jake

      Affirmative Action does give preference to underqualified blacks at the expense of other races. Blacks who otherwise are fully qualified are thus tainted by AA discrimination. It is time for AA to be eliminated.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:06 pm |
      • Retired Army

        And this has to do with Obama........HOW?

        BTW......Magna Cum Laude from Harvard School of Law and President of the Harvard Law Review means he was VERY qualified to be there!

        And if he were AA and he did bump a White student......I HIGHLY DOUBT that the bumped student would've graduated with the credentials that Obama amassed.

        I'm jus' sayin'........

        April 28, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
      • Waleed

        Ok Jake and what about all of those "unqualified whites" who get jobs because of white affirmative action (nepotism)? Unfortunately, most blacks don't own a lot of companies and businesses, so in order to move forward we have to depend on fair hiring practices by whites. Affirmative action was a noble attempt to try and make companies who only targeted one race for hire (whites) to hire outside of one race. If you had to be in the minority for a while and depended on blacks to hire you, I'm sure you would want laws in place that protected you from being excluded from working at a company that got tax breaks from the government. Second of all, most whites who dislike affirmative action points to the few cases where there was a more qualified white person, even though the truth is, qualified according to whom? When competing for a job, I have seen less qualified whites when judged by a test score, land a job simply because they knew someone on the inside. There have always been more than one reason why someone get's hired. Studies have proven that when it comes to home loans, business loans, and hiring, its is whites who benefit more. So, you identify one black person whose score was lower than a competing white guy and this is your cause to revolt. I say, big whoop, because for every example you pull from your angry white male website, I can point to a million buildings across the US that employs predominately white people (and that is a fact). So, to support your lie, show me one example where a black garbage man got hired over a white man to be a doctor and I'll support your assertion, but besides that, stop that same old (excuse the pun) white lie. The reality is, and the attacks on Obama have proven it, no matter how qualified a black person is, when a white person wants a white person in that job, the black person will never be considered "as qualified" as the white person (just look at all of the people who thinks Sarah Palin is smarter and more qualified than Obama). She is a Governor drop out who took years to graduate from journalism school. Obama is a Harvard graduate with high honors who was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. He was also a professor of constitutional law. But, somehow he is "less qualified" than Sarah Palin. So, excuse me if I question the often used phrase by angry white men about "the less qualified black".

        April 28, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
      • Retired Army

        Wow Waleed......I think that's gonna hurt Jake's feelings when he reads that.......that is.......if he can wrap his head around it.

        April 28, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
      • Jake

        Poor Waleed, you've got the gift for gab that's for sure. Too bad you didn’t comprehend my point. I have no doubt that Affirmative Action was implemented with the best of intentions... after all, the road to hell is paved with them.

        And I am also quite sure that some people get an advantage because of who their parents are and that Affirmative Action has benefited some blacks who were born into families without resources to give them advantages.

        My response is "SO WHAT". Not all advantage children are white. Not all disadvantaged children are black. Affirmative Action is inherently discriminatory in that is provides benefits solely on the basis of race. Disadvantaged white kids don't benefit from it, advantaged black kids do.

        And I do not have any idea whether Obama benefited from Affirmative Action to either marticulate or graduate from university. The mere fact that under qualified blacks are given preference over fully qualified non-blacks raises the possibility that he is a product of racist advantages conferred by Affirmative Action.

        Obama should release his college records to disprove any doubts about his ability or accomplishments. America has the right to know if the President earned or was given his position.

        April 28, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
      • Waleed

        Again Jake, who decides whether or not someone is "unqualified". Second of all, if you were intelligent enough to know what affirmative action is, you would know that it does not harm less affluent whites because it normally only takes effect when a company is violating laws by purposely not hiring blacks. Or in College situations, it only helps colleges to achieve the goes of making sure blacks are not underrepresented. What this means is, that is blacks make up 13% of the population, it helps to ensure that this population can have equal access to the college. So what are you crying about, if the 87% or slightly less of the college is made up of whites (both poor and rich), you sound like the spoiled child who wants all of the cookie. The only companies that ever had to worry about affirmative action are those that purposely do not hire blacks, because this "affirmative action" is actions taken to correct racial inequality (meaning a company is purposely being unfair). So if you have a 100% white company that can not even hire a black man for a job in the mail room, affirmative action laws will normally seek to adjust this. And why shouldn't the laws do this? Why should companies get tax relief to supposedly hire people from the community if they only hire from one community. Also, if a few poor whites do not get accepted to a college that is 88% white over the few blacks that get based on programs that seek to make sure we are not excluded, why are you crying? If you hate the fact so much that some of these whites have high test scores, then target someone in the other 88% of whites that have lower test scores and boot them out. No, what you look at is only the blacks because the "angry white male" view is that "they (the blacks) are beating us." What you require is that every black person that gets into a university have test scores that outmatches every single white person at the school, plus those that may seek entrance into the school. Also, you seek to spread the myth that based on a few examples that some whites always produces of the barely literate black guy who got into college over a white valedictorian, most of your "facts" are normally only anecdotal. There are no large amount of blacks kids flooding into universities and pushing out the poor beleaguered white kids that can barely get ahead. If I can quote Chris Rock, "if blacks are winning, whose losing." Show me one non historically black university that is loaded with people of color who pushed out the white kids with higher test scores.

        April 28, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
      • Jake

        Waleed, with respect to who determines who is "qualified" or "unqualified" the answer is the color of their skin... if it is black then you get the benefit of affirmative action, if it is white you do not... this makes affirmative action a racist program period.

        Your assertion that Affirmative Action "only takes effect when a company is violating laws by purposely not hiring blacks" is an outright lie. If, a company if found guilty of discriminating against anyone on the basis of any protected class, they can be sued and sanctioned... specific remedial plans can then be implemented to make whole the specific individual discriminated against.

        Affirmative Action is not implemented as the result of any company being found guilty of discrimination... it is implemented to inoculate a company against charges of discrimination and it does not target specific individuals who have been harmed by discrimination.

        With respect to colleges you yourself admit that affirmative action is nothing more than a quota system... 13% of the general population are black then 13% of the college population should be black... regardless of whether or not they would gain admittance if they were born of any other skin color but black... proving once again affirmative action is a racist program.

        Did Barak Obama benefit from the racism of affirmative action? We'll know when his Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, and scholarly articles from the University of Chicago are made public.

        April 28, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
      • VAFred

        Yes I agree! But before we get rid of AA, we need to get rid of racism!

        April 29, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
      • VAFred

        The intention of AA is NOT to bump a qualified white person out of a slot but to make sure a higher-qualified person of another race is NOT overlooked in favor of a white person that is less qualified. Which what was going on in the past. If you were black back then, it didn't matter whether you were qualified or not...you didn't stand a chance. Anybody that denies this fact definitely has their eyes closed.

        April 29, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
    • ingrid

      Waleed, I agree with you. I think this birther nonsense is really bad for the GOP overall. It really does make the party look very racist. I am not saying all Republicans are racists but this birther cause does look to be raced motivated, esp as now that the long form is in front of people and they are still looking for it to be fake and when the long form is not good enough they are doubting his academic success. Shameful really. I know many doubters are thinking I am not racist I just want the facts. Really. Even though the BC was verified multiple times before Obama had to present and there were eye witnesses who have validated his birth story ...still there was lingering doubt. I hope people realize that the GOP party has no platform with real solutions. There mantra of bringing back jobs in the mid-term evolved into attacking programs to help the poor and social issues. I cannot imagine voting for a republican now.

      April 28, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
  174. aminmd

    I think Mr. Obama should have waited until way into the general election campaign to release his birth certificate so that the birthers could have nominated their choice and run a completely irrelevant candidate.

    There was no controversy whether John McCain was constitutionally eligible to run. When it involved a white person, he automatically qualifies by constitutional inclusion. When it's a black man, he is taken for a liar even after he provides legally binding evidence of being born in the US – the only legal document of birth issued by the State of Hawaii when a copy is requested. The President's personal lawyer had to make special arrangements with the state of Hawaii to get a copy of the original made. Special arrangements to satisfy a group of people who will never be satisfied that he belongs in office. This is completely unjust. Coincidence? No way. Racist? Absolutely

    I'm wondering what racist opposition to the President will be brought up next? By the way, I am not black, just know in my heart that racism is behind the claims that Mr. Obama was born outside the US and that he is Muslim.

    April 28, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
  175. mandy

    Oldtimer, you sir, are #1. Old and #2. Out of time

    April 28, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
  176. haren


    April 28, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • Jake

      It was the claim of his Kenyan relatives who claimed he was born in Kenya for a starter. Add in his anti-American policies and compound that with his unrelenting (until Tuesday) opposition to the release of his original birth certificate and you have reasonable doubt that he was born in the US. If Obama had acted openly, honestly and transparently as he promised this would not have become the issue it did.

      It is time for Obama to stop stonewalling other documents that could substantiate his purported life story. It is high time he release his Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
      • aminmd

        Hey Jake, you forgot his bicycle license and dog's registration documents, too.

        April 28, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
      • Simon in Atlanta

        Jake, the "claim by his relatives" stuff has been addressed multiple times. Someone interviewing an elderly member of his family through a less than perfect interpreter got this fact wrong. Whether the blame lies with the interpreter, the journalist, or even the elderly relative is not clear. I wasn't there, and neither were you.

        BTW, how did Obama's promise of having an open transparent White House turn into him personally promising to open up his private records? Would anybody worth having as a President agree to openly share every intimate detail of their life? He was eligible to run, we elected him, nothing that is going to come out of his high school records will change that.

        April 28, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
    • Retired Army

      haren......they have no proof of any kind that Obama wasn't born in the US. If the birthers had the proof, they'd have produced it by now.

      Hell....they can't even provide documentation that Obama's mother travelled to Kenya BEFORE Obama was born. Yet.....they have a whole group of gullibles out there who swear that he's not an American.

      And then.....when he provides the BC that proves his Hawaiian birth.....they start grabbing for other 'straws' to justify their anti-Obama stance.

      Jake.....you need to go back to your start point here. Question the motives of the 'reporter' and interpretor who claim that Obama's grandmother stated he was born in Kenya. Investigate their agenda. Be objective. And then ask yourself....."why has no one EVER been able to show that Ms Dunham was in Kenya at the time of Obama's birth".

      No more excuses.....just do that, first.

      Oops! My bad. I should've known that you won't do that......because it doesn't fit neatly into the anti-Obama puzzle that you're so diligently trying to construct.

      April 28, 2011 at 3:43 pm |
      • Jake

        No need to read the tea leaves to divine the intentions of anybody. Simpler and more direct to demand that that Obama live up to his promise of having the "most open, honest and transparent White House in history" and release his original birth certificate... which, after a lot of foot dragging and whining about "racism", he finally did.

        April 28, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  177. JohnC

    The only thing we learned yesterday was that birthers do not understand anything about birth certificates.

    April 28, 2011 at 3:16 pm |
  178. Jay and Jake

    We are getting gay-married and want you all to come to our wedding.

    April 28, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
  179. Simon in Atlanta

    To those of you making a big deal out of the "look" of the PDF document, you are simply misinformed. Let me help you out. First step, someone in the Hawaii State Dept of Health had to reproduce the original. Either a type of digital camera or a scanner is used. I would be willing to bet a scanner was used in this case, but I don't know that for sure. And neither do you. Second step, that digital file is processed through a software designed to turn a photo or document into a PDF file. A PDF file is designed to limit the amount of editing or manipulation a document can receive. It's a security mechanism used when you want to keep a document in it's original form. Wonder why they thought they needed to do that in this case? Can't imagine one of the birthers out there would want to manipulate this document, hmmmm? (sarcasm there in case you missed it)

    Anyway, one of the limitations of using digital scanners and PDF software is a little thing called optical character recognition. OCR "detects" certain images as text, and it separates them as text. It also places a white background behind those characters for reasons to complex to get into here. Google "optical character recognition" and educate yourself. One of the benefits of doing this is that it makes the characters clearer, by slightly defining them from the background.

    To try to sum this up, the document looks exactly like what a scanned and PDFed document should look like. If it DIDN'T have the white behind the letters, THAT would be the sign of a fake. Amazing how facts are what they are, but aren't always what you want them to be.

    April 28, 2011 at 4:10 pm |
  180. Timothy

    With each passing day over the last 15+ years, I become increasingly depressed with the state of our political system, our culture, our Nation. I am 50 and have seen a lot of madness in my days....hell, I worked as a Prison Counselor for the last 13 years...you need only imagine what I have seen and heard from human beings both behind bars & those that work within the Criminal Justice system. All people are vulnerable to "bad days", bad decisions, faulty logic, anger, and the stress that comes from having to adjust and adapt to a world that is changing at the speed of light every single day. Knowing all that, it still amazes me that the madness of a few can become a worldview for many. The degree to which our political system has disintegrated in to an almost surreal tragedy (it would be comical if the consequences were not so dire)...I mean, this is right out of a Terry Gilliam movie or a story by Kafka. The "birthers?"....Donald Trump? ....Michelle Bachman....?....Palin?....Gingrich?....Rove? How is it that these are the people that are defining the terms for political & social discourse in our Nation? Fueled or sometimes encouraged by a limp, completely neutered, and corporately owned media (IN THE NATION THAT DEFINES ITSELF BY FREEDOM OF SPEECH, RELIGION, ABILITY TO ASSEMBLE, BEAR ARMS, etc.....) The power brokers have either wittingly or unwittingly (I lean toward the former) have allowed us to be ruled by the lowest common denominator. I know that I have become bitter and the desire to simply retreat from the society in which I live is hard to resist at times. But I am so pissed off that we have allowed ourselves to be ruled by idiots & fools, mediocre is the norm, education and intelligence have now become threatening, unthinkable acts of greed shock few and the desire to address it if not penalize it appears almost nonexistent. We live in a Plutocracy that is alarmingly well schooled in manipulating "the masses" to believe that we have some form of thriving, vital Democracy. The outrage and fury that began to swell within us after an almost unparalleled economic disaster could have been a pivotal moment in US history. As we learned more & more about the economic abuses, neglect, treasonous greed laid upon us by the banking & insurance sectors, as well as our own government, the curtain pulled back on the "Mighty Oz", should have generated a cry for reform and accountability from all people with basic common sense.....but as the outrage grew louder, the Plutocrats started up their PR machine – this devious mechanism used by all politicians and corporations to lull the masses back to sleep. And so began the ritual; lies, deceit blanketed w/ patriotism, dog chained media outlets focusing on everything but the truth in order to pit us against each other, for as long as we are gnashing our teeth at our neighbors about gay marriage, abortion, gun control we will not focus on the true culprits. They know this....have known it for years....rulers have done this throughout history; refocusing the blame on everyone &everything BUT the actual perpetrators. I was a Democrat for years but stiil maintained an open mind, would listen to the ideas & philosophy of republicans...even voted for some if I felt they had integrity and a sane grasp of the world. I call myself an independent now as I believe that the evidence of Plutocratic rule is beyond dispute at this juncture and party affiliation is meaningless. But I simply can't fathom how any one that is paying attention, watching, listening.... could vote for anything that the current form of the Republican Party stands for. They have become so beholden to their lunatic fringe and to the money changers that I feel they are truly a threat to the Nation. The middle class, Joe the Plumber, the working poor have some how come to believe that the Repubs are on their side..........Sometimes it takes a bit of pain to motivate one to change their actions or beliefs that are self destructive....we had a catastrophic event in the economy that I felt might be the desperately needed jolt for America to wake up.....but we went back to sleep. I only pray that we can move forward with some integrity, intelligence, human decency, and foresight...because I'm not sure we can survive another "jolt" to wake us up.......................peace to all.

    April 28, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
  181. Retired Army

    THIS JUST IN..............................OBAMA WAS STILL BORN IN HAWAII

    April 28, 2011 at 4:18 pm |
    • Monster Zero

      Why spend a million bucks for over two and a half years to keep this thing under wrap? Why hang out with a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers and deny knowing him? Why appoint self proclaimed Communists like Van Jones in your Administration? Why push the mother of all entitlement programs ahead of a failing economy when the existing entitlement programs are insolvent? Who cares where Obama was born, we need a leader not some social activist ideologue.

      April 28, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
  182. Steven

    Fact: John McCain was NOT born in the good ole US of A, but on a military base in Panama.

    April 28, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
  183. Jaywing

    Definition: "Birther" n. A person who mentally masterbates over a baseless or fictious issue and believes they are consumating a meaningful relationship with reality. Known to be associated with Teabagger syndrome.

    April 28, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
  184. Monster Zero

    Let's attribute the "birther issue"where it belongs, an attorney in Philadelphia named Phil Berg that was a member of the DNC for electing Hillary Clinton is the initial start of this issue. There is a website with his original complaints and I have watched over the entirety of this as how he has now morphed into an "Independent". The birth certificate really establishes little other than to raise the questions as to why would he spend over a million to prevent release as to where he was born? The true legal questions have yet to be answered with regard to adoption, acquiring Indonesia citizenship and a myriad of other legal issues involving citizenship status. This is really a moot point and the proof in the pudding speaks for itself as far as his abilities as a leader, he has failed on every count except for division of the Nation.

    April 28, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
    • Waleed

      It is interesting to hear whites say that Obama have divided the nation, as if blacks are always responsible for white superiority and hate. It reminds of a film I saw back in Mississippi after the 3 civil rights workers were murdered. There on camera when being interviewed someone said that they probably got killed because "they were stirring up trouble". Again, white racism being blamed on those "pesky blacks and their wanting to be free." Imagine the nerve of black people with our "wanting to be president, and wanting to try our hand at running this country." Why just the thought of that makes people go all Tea Partyish and birtherish. If only he put on the white makeup he wouldn't have divided this country so much, just like back in Mississippi, if those 3 civil rights workers just let blacks "stay in our place" whites wouldn't have been led to kill them.

      April 28, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
      • Monster Zero

        Are you serious? The 1960's was a long time ago and by the way Civil Rights are for everyone to be treated equally under the law, not an excuse to be treated differently under the law...where you been? Why I recall watching a movie about evolution, it was called Quest for Fire...get freaking real.

        April 28, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
  185. Sherri

    Typical Obama taking too long to act. Why didnt he put this mess to rest two years ago? And as for it being an issue or race... that dont fly. McCain was vetted and hearings were held to make sure he was eligible because he was born in Panama on an American military base.

    Kudos to Donald Trump for forcing Obama to do the right thing.

    April 28, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
    • VAFred

      KUDOS? Obama DID show his Certificate of Live Birth 2 years ago! Of course "the powers that want to be" didn't want to accept that. The only thing Trump forced was the proof that hes an idiot! Of course we all knew that about Trump anyway!

      Trump, Palin, The right-wing, the Tea-party, The Birthers...everyday and every time they open their mouths, they only prove how racist, self-serving, idiotic, un-respectful, un-American morons that they are!

      Keep it up, guys! Your guaranteeing Obama 4 more years!

      April 29, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
  186. Edgar Harobish

    Barack Obama's father was from Kenya, and was in the United States on a student visa, and was never a naturalized citizen. Obama referred to his father as "African-American". This is absolutely not true. His father is a black Kenyan. Being a member of the black race and living in America does not automatically make a person an African-American.

    April 28, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • VAFred

      Yep you right! I agree with you! You win! So what!?

      Obama WAS born in America! Which makes him 100% American! This is what this conversation is about...President Obama NOT his father.

      Keep your eyes on the ball, Edgar!

      April 29, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
      • VAFred

        Whoops! Make that "you're" right!

        April 29, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
  187. Liz Carter in Georgia

    @Larry L, Waleed, Retired Army, Joe, and a few of you others, I want to thank you for your comments. I agree with you. Yes, I saw this racist tornado brewing at least two and a half years ago! Whenever I try to address it or call it out, many 'racists-in-denial' just jump out at me and call me racist! You know they're quick to 'flip the script' back on the identifier, or try to boo you, by claiming you're playing the race card; that's suppose to keep you quiet on it you know! Soldier on soldiers!

    April 28, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
    • Jake

      You must be related to that milquetoast son of Georgia… Jimmy.

      April 28, 2011 at 6:33 pm |
  188. Monster Zero

    I love the way the issues are presented on Obama, not based on his mixed race but on his fundamental principles of governance and politics. Tell me the answers to Bill Ayers an avowed anti-American domestic terrorist, tell me the answers on appointing some self proclaimed Communist like Van Jones, tell me how Libya is any different than Iraq or Afghanistan other than the latter two were approved through Congress prior to commencement. Have the decency to at least offer up something to the true concerns put forth other than some lame excuse that it is because he is a multatto.

    What makes you think that a white man born with nothing has anymore of a chance than a black man born with nothing? The true social issue is that the laws are applied equally, the individual person chooses where they wish to position themselves in the rank and file of society based upon their own actions.

    April 28, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • salvatore

      What do any of those so-called "true concerns" have to do with his birth certificate?

      April 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
  189. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Mine too, Neils! I'd like to add this. Yet, even after all of those accomplishments, these hateful 'CONS' repeatedly claim this president hadn't done a thing! This man's done more in 2 years than most previous presidents did in 4; not to even mention 8! They curse, rant and rave everytime he and his family take off to get personal/private time together! That man deserves every hour of personal time he has ever taken! Furthermore, as was all other previous 43, he's never totally 'off work'! It's scandalous!

    April 28, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • Jake

      "...he's never totally 'off work'! It's scandalous!" He'll have plenty of time off in 631 days... of course he's welcome to quit early.

      Oh, yeah! He's done more in 2 years... MORE DAMAGE!!!

      In 2004 the Federal Government took in 17.3% of the Gross Domestic Product
      In 2010 the Federal Government took in 18.4% of the Gross Domestic Product

      In 2004 Federal Spending was 21% of Gross Domestic Product (Deficit was 3.7% of GDP)
      In 2010 Federal Spending was 27% of Gross Domestic Product (Deficit was 8.6% of GDP)

      Tax receipts are up!

      It is spending that is out-of-control

      The real problem is that government borrowing and spending are up by more than tax receipts.

      Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho
      Barak Obama has got to go!!!

      April 28, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
  190. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Jake, don't get too cute with me, because you evidently don't know me so well. Since you have though, I'd just like to say that, if I was related to President Jimmy Carter, I would be honored, OK? We've always loved and respected him, because he's a beautiful humanitarian spirit and a noble God-fearing, Christian man of service to the people. Who knows though? My husbands' paternal grand ancestors could've come from the CARTER PLANTATION. Side effects of slavery is the basic reason for Affirmative Action!

    April 28, 2011 at 9:40 pm |
  191. Jake

    What a bunch of racist pricks.

    April 29, 2011 at 1:45 am |
    • VAFred


      Did you make that comment while looking through your family album?

      April 29, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
  192. Avenger_Reloaded

    Trump squandered money on this superfluous investigation. Now people want to make him president and put him in charge of the federal budget? Please get a better candidate we can stand behind.

    April 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
  193. Sandy

    Anyone born before 1980 should go to their County Records Department (Birth/Death Records) and ask for an original version of your birth certificate. That birth certificate will show that at that time they were either handwritten or typewriter printed. Of course if a mistake was made they had to use whiteout of some sort to make the correction. Any document from that time period that you will scan into a pdf and upload to a computer today will look a bit distorted! So if you weren't born during that time-frame you should do some additional home work regarding non-technology and technology. I'm with Retired Military dude/dudette – STFU!

    April 29, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
  194. grvol

    He just witnessed all the devastation in Alabama and he calls it a "fun day"? Piece of maxist sh- t.

    April 30, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
  195. Liz Carter in Georgia

    :VAFred; Thanks for your beautifully worded, truthful comments! It's good to have you here! Of course, I wouldn't know what the 'VA' in your name represents, but my sense is you're a veteran of the UNITED STATES and you're knowledgeable of the deservance respect due protocol; whomever is in charge. I've been on this 'battlefield' along with a few others, fighting for decency and respect for PRES OBAMA for so long now, I don't even remember! I know why he isn't getting it, but they're all in BIG denial!

    April 30, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • VAFred

      You are very welcome, Liz and so is President Obama. If there is one thing I cannot stand is a person that will attempt to vilify a person who does nothing but spend their life helping other people. Though Jimmy Carter was not considered one of our best Presidents, his continued work towards helping people less fortunate then himself raises his character to one of the most honorable people in this country, in my humble opinion. If anyone deserves the respect that is due any President, Carter does...as well as Obama!

      Though their are small-minded people on this forum who are attempting to degrade Obama, there is one thing they will NOT be able to deny. Obama will go down in history as a great American, his portrait will hang in the White House along side of the many other great Americans who were able to hold the distinguished and honorable position of President of the United States! No matter what they say or do, there is NOTHING they will be able to do to erase that fact! It is high time that these people are made to realize that "The White House" does NOT mean what they think or want it to mean!

      It is high time that a person is treated in reflection to WHO they are, WHAT they do, HOW they choose to live their lives and HOW they treat other people; NOT what they are!

      Practice that in America, then we can surely call this country great!

      May 1, 2011 at 10:51 am |
  196. VAFred

    WOW! What an accomplishment! Did he actually do in three years what a Republican couldn't do in eight? That is what I call MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    May 2, 2011 at 8:01 am |
    • Jay in NC

      9/11/2001 was about 1 year and 8 months into President Bush's term. That would make it 6 years and 4 months, not 8 years. I have seen your post form so many liberals, you all just hate President Bush so much that you are willing to lie about history. Stop repeating the hate.

      New reports coming out everyday, now they are saying that Barry knew Osama was there for the past 9 months. Man, it takes him a long time to make a decision, or was he waiting to create a distraction because of the 'birther' heat?

      May 6, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
  197. Mark

    People, Obama was under a microscope since he first decided to run for office. Stop being stupid.

    May 6, 2011 at 9:01 am |
  198. GetOverIt

    After looking at all the right wingnuts that come out of the woodwork when Obama released his birth certificate, are you really surprised why he chose not to release the pictures of dead Osama? They'd just be attacked as illegitimate just like the birth certificate is.

    May 11, 2011 at 8:54 am |
  199. Stacey Franco

    and THIS my friends, is why i don't care about politics -_-

    May 17, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
  200. Ed Gauthier

    Of course they didn't check your ID, Barry baby – they knew that just like your bin Laden dead again story, and your Photoshopped birth certificate, that it would likewise be a FAKE! So why bother?

    May 26, 2011 at 11:08 am |
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