August 10th, 2011
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  1. MTATL67

    I have been following politics for 25 years but never volunteered to work on a candidate’s campaign before now. I am so upset with GOP/Tea Party members of Congress and the mess they created. I did not join the military so my government could be taken over or brought to stop by an extremist minority such as the Tea Party so I am going to give my vote to President Obama and more than that I am going to give my time and volunteer to work on his re-election campaign. It is that important to stop extremism in our freely elected government.

    August 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • Maggie

      You are chatting nonsense. The Tea Party only came into effect about 2 years ago and the overspending have been happening since the democrats got the majority in both the House and Senate. Anyway, the Tea Party representatives are trying to get the government to stop the overspending that America will not go bankrupt. They are trying to help us americans get back to our lifestyle that we used to have before these democrats idiots were elected and that includes Obama.

      August 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
      • Michael tampa

        Wrong Maggie the spending begin under GWB, two unfunded wars, a prescription drug program that was not paid for, tax cuts for the wealthy. Where have you been????

        August 10, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
      • jean2009

        @maggie He isn't chatting nothing but the truth...sorry but your lack of historical context doesn't add up.
        Another teapotty history failure.

        Republicans controlled the house from 1994 to 2006 which was several years of Pres. Clinton's term and 6 years of GW Bush's presidency.
        Numbers in the Senate are as follows.
        Senate for the 107th Congress (Jan to June 2001) was evenly divided at a 50/50 deadlock, from June 2001 to Jan. 2003 the divide was Republicans 50, Democrats 48, 2 independents,
        The 108th Congress -Senate (2003-2005) the makeup was Republicans 55/ Democrats 44 and 1 independent,...Republican control.
        The 109th Congress -Senate (2005-2007) Republicans 55/ Democrats 44 and 1 independent. Republican control...that is a total of 5 years Republican control when Republicans controlled the House of Representatives.
        The 110th Congress-Senate (2007-2009) Democrats 49/ Republicans 49 and 1 independent...again a virtual deadlock.

        The problem is the Republicans did their damage during the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% during the years when both the Presidency, the House and the Senate were all in control of Republicans. That is when the decisions were made to start 2 unfunded wars, an unfunded drug plan (that allowed no bargaining for a better drug price), and 2 major tax refund stimulus bills...followed in 2008 by G. W. Bush's Hail Mary Pass to try to save his presidential reputation for tanking the economy when 2.6 million jobs disappeared...with both TARP bank bailout, and the auto bail out loans. The deficit may have appeared low...simply because he was running 2 sets of books...not a penny of the 2 wars were included in his unbalanced budgets...1/3 or the current federal deficit can be attributed to George W. Bush and failed Republican policies which have not stimulated the economy or created a job.

        The article below from the Daily Kos : Congressional Resolution for July 25, 2011

        RESOLVED: Republican economic policies and voting records from 2001 through 2011 are responsible for the current annual and cumulative federal account deficits.

        Whereas President William Jefferson Clinton handed over an economy to President George W. Bush that included an annual federal government budget surplus; and

        Whereas the passage of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 did not create jobs and has also added to the annual and cumulative national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the passage of the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 did not create jobs and has also added to the annual and cumulative national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the passage of the Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 did not create jobs and has also added to the annual and cumulative national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the these three [3] Reconciliation Acts did not create jobs, created an income disparity between the top-2% of earners and the bottom-98% not seen since before the ‘Great Depression’, and have an associated fiscal impact that have added nearly $3.0 trillion to the cumulative national debt and continue to add an additional $450 billion annually to the national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the 2001 initiation of the War in Afghanistan had nothing to do with the horror of 9/11, has cost more than contemplated, and has added to cumulative national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the 2003 initiation of the War in Iraq had nothing to do with the horror of 9/11, has cost more than contemplated, and has added to the cumulative national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the cost of these two [2] Wars have added over $750 billion to the cumulative national debt and continue to add an additional $150 billion annually to the national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the size of the federal government and total spending was further increased in 2002 by creation of a new agency, the Department of Homeland Security, with an annual budget of more than $50 billion; and

        Whereas the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003 has not slowed government expenditures nor the growth rate for Medicare costs and has added approximately $320 billion to the cumulative national debt as well as continues to add an additional $55 billion annually to the national debt and deficits; and

        Whereas the unemployment rate was 4.7% in January, 2008 (a year before Barack Obama was inaugurated president, when the rate was 7.5%), until October, 2009 when unemployment was 9.4% – the loss of approximately 8 million jobs during these 22 straight months caused and continues to cause an increase in annual federal government outlays of over $60 billion for unemployment insurance as well as reduced the annual income tax revenues received to the U.S. Treasury; and

        Whereas in addition to the increase in unemployment insurance outlays, the rise in unemployment from the recession beginning more than a year before President George W. Bush Recession left office and the resulting loss of tax receipts has caused a decline in government revenue from 22% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to less than 15% of GDP; and

        Whereas the interest payments on the total government debt accumulated during the term of President George W. Bush is approximately $200 billion of the more than $400 billion annual interest payments; and

        Whereas the proof of the budget costs and economic impact of the Reconciliation Acts ($3 trillion), addition of Department of Homeland Security ($450 billion), defense spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ($750 billion), expansion of Medicare Part D program ($320 billion), a rise in U.S. unemployment and unemployment insurance payments ($60 billion), and increase in government interest expense ($200 billion) are verified by a doubling of the national debt from $5.7 trillion at the start of the term of President George W. Bush to over $11.4 trillion at the end of 2009 budget year associated with his term; and

        Whereas without objection from either the Republican Congress (2001-2006) or with a veto from President George W. Bush, passed into law were an expansion of the federal government with the creation of a new agency, an increased rate of spending throughout the federal government, an overall decline in government revenue punctuated by continuing tax cuts for the top-2% of income earners and high unemployment, along with a constant raising of the federal government debt ceiling to pay for these changes; and

        Whereas President George W. Bush and the economic and fiscal policies he enacted with a Republican Congress from 2001-2006 are responsible for more than one-third (1/3) of the current cumulative $14 trillion national debt and at least one-half (1/2) of the annual $1.5 trillion deficits currently being blamed on President Barack Obama; and

        Whereas the proposed Cap, Cut and Balance Act of 2011 voted for by the U.S. House of Representatives and rejected by the U.S. Senate in July, 2011 calls for a near immediate cutting of total government expenditures by 25% across-the-board to nearly all domestic programs and agencies (i.e., Education, Veterans, Environment, IRS, FDA, Transportation, Agriculture, Justice, Social Security, Medicare, etc.) to create a cap on government expenditures to be no more than 18% of GDP – an unrealistic level not seen since before the introduction of Medicare in 1965; and

        Whereas the Rep. Paul Ryan Path to Prosperity 2012 budget proposal voted for by the U.S. House of Representatives and rejected by the U.S. Senate in May, 2011 would have not only changed Medicare as we know it into a voucher program, it would have also required raising of the federal debt ceiling by at least $4 trillion over 10-years without balancing the federal budget; and

        Whereas the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 signed into law by President Barack Obama was rejected en masse by congressional Republicans despite the fact that it preserves Medicare as we know it, while both decreasing the growth rate of national medical care costs and resulting in a decrease of projected national budget deficits by at least $210 billion over the next decade; now, therefore

        Be it Resolved by the Members of the United States Congress:
        That We, the members of the United States Congress, agree that a federal Balanced Budget Amendment and requisite change to the Constitution of the United States is nothing short of a political ploy given a 50-year history of Republicans always increasing deficit spending and never providing a reality-based balanced budget."

        August 10, 2011 at 3:39 pm |
      • jean2009


        BTW read Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution....George W. Bush's administration wrote the Iraqi Constitution and even put up the $950 million of American taxpayer's money to fund and put their universal health care plan into operation.. What hypocrisy! Do I hear the words Socialist Iraq?

        "The Bush administration's top health-care official defended the $950 million that will be spent to help Iraq establish universal health care. Congressional Democrats have criticized the administration for helping Iraq to establish universal health care without doing the same for U.S. citizens.

        "You'd better sit down, folks.

        Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

        Article 31 reads:

        "First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

        Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

        There are other health care guarantees, including special provisions for children, the elderly, and the handicapped elsewhere in the 43-page document.

        Under force of arms, President Bush imposed his particular idea of democracy on a people not asking for it – perhaps a noble undertaking in one context and a criminal violation of international law in another. Bush's followers are proud of the Iraqi Constitution, a model for the world, they told us.

        So, according to the American political right-wing, government-guaranteed health care is good for Iraqis, but not good for us. Not good for you. They decry even a limited public option for you, but gleefully imposed upon the Iraqis what they label here as "socialism," with much Democratic Party member support.

        Indeed, reading the Iraqi Constitution so near to the 8th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is instructive. It is the very definition of American right-wing hypocrisy."

        August 10, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
    • Howard


      August 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
      • joe

        let him really help America and Resign but then we have Bozo Biden get him to go and then we could have the speaker of the House John Boehner,

        August 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm |
      • Russell Brown

        Can you list the laws that Our president has broke
        can you educate the people
        please tell where the fire is
        please tell the day the fire began
        please give details.
        thank you

        August 10, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
    • Travis

      Don't believe the finger pointing that's going on. Maggie is correct. This would have happened no matter who was in congress. You cannot keep operating in the red. It's simple. Would your bank loan you money if you spent more money than you made month after month? Would your personal credit rating drop? Of course it would.

      Furthermore, the true Tea Party people involved in the debate were upset that there weren't drastic "real" cuts. That is why the S & P lowered the rating. They know that there is going to be worse to come to the US because they aren't really cutting anythin.

      August 10, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
    • Howard

      Barack Obama follows the 'Dead Horse' strategy ...

      The tribal wisdom of the Indians, passed on from generation to generation, says that, "When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount." However, with Obama, more advanced strategies are often employed, such as:

      1. Buying a stronger whip.
      2. Changing riders.
      3. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
      4. Arranging to visit other countries to see how other cultures ride dead horses.
      5. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.
      6. Reclassifying the dead horse as living-impaired.
      7. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
      8. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase speed.
      9. Providing additional funding and/or training to increase dead horse's performance.
      10. Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead horse's performance.
      11. Declaring that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly, carries lower overhead and therefore contributes substantially more to the bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.
      12. Rewriting the expected performance requirements for all horses.
      And of course....
      13. Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.

      August 10, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
  2. joe

    If I was on that committee I would make cuts today not next year
    I would use SS Strickly for Reirement cut out all other spending from SS
    Cut everything acrross the borad with the exception of Military and its Veterams
    Cut Welfare for all able to work Start a workfare program no work no Check
    get the people on welfare to clean streets anything that is neglected now
    Cut all aid to countries that don;t support us in the middle east reace process
    Stop our need for arab Oil by drilling in America
    Transfer Money to protect our boarders DEPORT ALL IILEGAL ALIENS
    Help Legal American BORN Kids with Money for College NOT Achor Babies
    And alot more you Liberals gave away enough of America;s noney

    August 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
    • jean2009

      I would cut that bloated military budget which makes up 59% of our budget and 80% if you include all the military related things like veteran's health benefits, and retirement...I would close bases and downsize personnel.

      The bloated military is the 900lb gorilla in the room.

      August 10, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
      • joe

        And I guess you would use the money to continue the fat stupid and lazy social programs

        are you an Ahole why would you cut veterans Benifits they put thier lives on the line for this Country What have you done except put your fat lazy grubbie hand out for some free money

        August 11, 2011 at 11:22 am |
      • joe

        Pass a law that all students BEFORE they get aid fir college MUST do 2 Years in the Military
        you will see a better quality of Student comming into the workplace afterwards
        I know of many upstanding people who served in the military first or by ROTC they are the Veterans that you want to push aside to help lazy low lifes SS is for Retirement and thats All it should be used for

        August 11, 2011 at 11:27 am |
  3. Robert

    I think we need to do some serious cutting in the countries budget:

    1. Why are we sending military aid to other countries when we are talking about cutting our military funding, threatening to delay paycheck to our military people in harm’s way? Holding back the $800 million from Pakistan should be only the first step.

    2. Back in the cold war days, we needed US military installations in other countries. Now we can reach out and touch the enemy from our own soil anytime, anywhere. Close down the bases in overseas areas and bring the troops home and trim defense spending supporting other countries’ economies. How many foreign countries have military installations in the US?

    3. Close the tax loopholes that allow big businesses to pay fewer taxes than the working poor. If they want to outsource jobs to other more tax friendly countries, apply an extra tax to them. Bring the jobs back to the US.

    4. Allow the tax cuts for the people making more than $250,000 to expire. This is not a tax increase as indicated by the politicians, it is a revocation of a discount. Coupons have expiration dates. This one has been used too long.

    5. For some reason the career politicians keep calling Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare entitlements. I know when I was growing up and going through school, entitlement meant that you are getting something for nothing. Every two weeks, I notice that Social Security and Medicare get a bite out of my paycheck. I’m not “entitled to social security and medicare”, I paid for it, IT IS MINE!!! I wasn’t asked if I wanted the money taken out of my checks. If I was asked I would have said NO and placed that money into something much safer than what the government controls.

    6. If the members of congress can’t do their jobs, take their pay back. The budget signed in April 2011 should have been finished and passed by April 2010. A year late? How many working people could get away with that and still have a job? Congress writes themselves out of every program they push out to the public. Don’t you think that if they had to live within the systems they create for us, they might do a better job of at least trying to get it right the first time? If they had to pay the outrageous health care costs, they would do something to get them under control.

    7. Reform the welfare system. If you are physically able to work, get a job or the city/county/state government can have you doing community project to collect your checks after you can piss test clean. Fail the drug test, you worked for free.

    8. Do away with federal/state funding for illegals going to college. Can’t come to the country legally we don’t need to educate you for free.

    As for the whole debt ceiling debacle, all the children we elected couldn’t put on the big boy/girl pants and take care of what they were elected to do. They had to try to crash the economy because they can’t work together. I’m sick of the political parties. Do away with them, join the American Party. Do what is best for the country! Public office is supposed to be about doing the right thing for the people, not what will make you rich.

    August 10, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
  4. whatthe???

    I would cut the War on Drugs Budget... We spend 226 billion a year fighting drugs and thats not including sending people to prison for marijuana. Legalize it!!!! Tax it!!!!! and in 10 years there would be a revenue of at least 500 billion. Marijuana is no worse than alcohol you idiots!!!!!

    August 10, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • joe

      I can see your'e a crack head idiot

      August 11, 2011 at 11:29 am |
  5. Liz Carter in Georgia

    Have you had any experience, in 'crackheadism'? Whether it be personal or otherwise; have you been privvy to the many signs, side-effects or trained to recognize the conditions of a 'crackheads' mental state? From where I sit, it's evident that you haven't! If all you can do is call someone a crackhead simply because they don't agree with your position and ask you to give the bases of yours, you couldn't have! BTW, I've worked in addiction. This blog 'debate' is the LAST place a crackhead would want to be!

    August 14, 2011 at 1:03 pm |