 President Obama speaks at an Arlington, VA fire station Friday. Photo credit: AFP/Getty Images
February 3rd, 2012
12:56 PM ET
Obama unveils veteran's jobs proposal with hefty price tag WASHINGTON (CNN) – President Barack Obama unveiled a new jobs initiative geared toward veterans Friday that the administration says will put thousands of former men and women in uniform back to work. The new so-called Veterans Jobs Corps initiative, first mentioned in the president's State of the Union address the first week in February, involves partnerships with the Veterans Administration and the Interior Department, as well as state and local law enforcement agencies. “When these men and women come home, they bring unparalleled skills and experiences. They’ve saved lives in some of the toughest conditions imaginable,” Obama said during a speech at anArlington,Virginiafirehouse. “These are Americans that every business should be competing to attract.” But with a price tag of at least $5 billion, it's likely the new initiative will be met with stiff opposition in Congress. Specifically, Obama said his administration will preference awards of $166 million in grant money to communities that hire post-9/11 veterans for new law-enforcement positions. Simultaneously, $320 million in grant money will be preferenced to various fire departments that pledge to hire and train new veterans. The money for those grants has already been appropriated by Congress as part of programs that are broadly targeted at retaining and hiring law enforcement personnel and firefighters. But the president is seeking an additional $4 billion in his upcoming budget to expand both programs with an eye toward awarding those communities who fill their ranks with veterans. Congress rejected a similar proposal last fall that was part of the president's broader jobs initiative. “Congress should take money we are no longer spending on war, use half of it to pay down our debt, and use the rest of it to nation build right here at home,” Obama said Friday. The president also announced that his upcoming budget will include a $1 billion proposal to create as many as 20,000 new jobs for veterans relating to conservation efforts ofAmerica's federal and state public lands. That initiative, to be overseen by the Department of Interior, would put veterans to work in visitor and tourism-related jobs as well as positions that would assist in general upkeep and maintenance roles throughout the country's public parks and nature preserves. "These are common-sense initiatives to serve our 9/11 veterans who are coming home," Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar told reporters on a conference call with reporters Thursday. "We hope Congress does its job (in approving the funding)." The president also announced he will propose expanding training programs for entrepreneurially focused veterans seeking to start their own businesses. This program would include online training seminars conducted by the Small Business Administration lasting as long as eight weeks and could service as many as 10,000 veterans annually, according to administration estimates. “We are going to do everything we do to make sure that when our troops come home, they are going to come home to new opportunities,” Obama said. The latest unemployment rate for post-9/11 veterans is 9.1%, higher than the country's overall unemployment rate of 8.3% but down from 13.1% in 2009. Among the president's few jobs proposals to clear Congress last year were new tax credits for businesses that hire recent veterans. |
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GOP says: Ruut Roww Shaggy, looks like the U.S. economy is recovering despite our best efforts to destroy President Obama. This guy has stayed on message...even with us calling him every name we possibly could. What do you do now?
Ok...GOP/Tea people...I've made a proclamation to do my best to stop calling you folks names. I didn't say I would never do it again, but I'm trying to be like Obama and just be above it all. You can help me....
Here's how; if you do not want to be called a racist, moron, or an imbeccile, please stop calling the president names, stop with the un-patriotic rants about this president is doing nothing, and for heavens sakes, for the good of this nation, stop saying "No" to the mostly logical proposal to get this country on track. What you should try to do is have an intelligent debate, STARTING WITH FACTS, not Faux non-news lies. If you still want to watch those liars, that's up to you, but realize those people are not talking about reality, but rather paid opportunists trying to maintain the status quo for the wealthiest of americans. Otherwise, Do have a Great Day! our economy is on the mend....but we must start passing these jobs bills to keep it going, because Europe is a huge problem that could case unemployment to begin to rise again, and therefore stall the overall recovery. And we don't want that – Right ?? Right?? ....Howard, Jerry/ex-lax, Joey, Steveo, C-lo. Of course you can join the rest of us "lefties" in supporting this president and the country as a whole at anytime. All will be forgiven ...LOL
Please tell me how this is on the right track. You're going to drop $5B on opening jobs for vets? Well as a veteran how about this. Take care of the H1B folks that are stealing American jobs and open up 500,000 without spending a dime...
With Teapublicans there is always a PROBLEM with the president's proposals...
you need to stop drinking obama cool-aid...MOST of these jobs were service(low paying and parttime) and many due to the warm winter....you stupid dope! Real unemployment is near 15%. And 1,200,000 dropped out of the job market...
....ok J-exlax, my attempts to avoid calling you name is being met with your usual hatred for everything that even remotely looks like improvement in the country's economy.
According to your logic, President Obama caused this down turn – right? The fact that the previous administration had a net loss of -4 million jobs, when they started with a surplus.
Ok, this is not an insult but simply a question, did you ever take a critical thinking course? or better yet, have you ever been able to determine "cause and effect"? I'm just asking because it appears you are a lost cause. I suspect you are only able to turn on your computer and type complete idiocy. Just sayin' ...and again, your name should be "ex lax" because you are so full of it.
@exlax it is correctly Kool-Aid...but you are the one that has been drinking that poison tea.
check the CBO numbers released this week...also this jobs report was seasonably adjusted and we have a very mild last winter...the numbers for this fall and next year look horrible... Only one in seven jobs created by American business stays in the US...service jobs are on the increase and some manufacturing (construction). The good news is the stock market should do well as many business do a lot of business overseas...
After 3 years of Obama and nearly $5 TRILLION blown, youth black unemployment is at 55%. Highest ever recorded. Obama's has had 3 straight years of >$1 TRILLION deficits, Bush's highest was $460 billion. Hopefully there aren't too many people like you that still believe in this ridiculous "hope and change" crap.
I don't know where you live, but we had a horrible winter last year...this one has been milder than normal but the winter is not over here in Ohio. Doesn't have a thing to do with weather has to do with people spending and job creation. All those stimulus jobs that put bread on the table and pay the bills.
LOL T-race...you libtards don't get it...he's unveilling this job proposal for veterans because he is about to cut the numbers in the military...so there will be alot of unemployed veterans...
Kind of like other libtarded plans...hey I'll create a problem, then I'll solve it and look like a hero, but the solution is going to create even more problems...just like Dodd/Frank and their fix for the problems they created, which turns out to be causing even more problems...
For someone who questions other people's "critical thinking"...apparently you lack that quality... "cause and effect"? How about thinking why BO needs this plan to begin with??? Oh I know...there's going to be a lot of unemployed veterans soon from the cuts in the military they just announced the other week...now he'll try and be the hero and just try and buy their votes with some temporary proposal that's going to cost a ton more...it would be better to just give the veterans a lump sum of money, that would save a ton $$$...thats the "cause and effect" you were looking for.
The jobless rate reported today is “corrupt as it can be” because President Barack Obama’s administration has decreased the size of the workforce, Rush Limbaugh said on his radio show.
According to the Department of Labor, employers added almost a quarter of a million jobs in January. According to Limbaugh, it eliminated 2 ½ million positions.
“The number of jobs not available to be filled exploded by an unprecedented, record number of 1.2 million,” he said. “That’s not a typo. That’s part of this 2 ½ million fewer jobs. It is corrupt as it can be.”
He said the shrinking of “the overall universe of jobs” led to the misconstrued dip in the unemployment rate, to 8.3, from 8.5 in December.
“No president has ever been re-elected when the unemployment rate’s over 8 percent, so guess what it’s going to be by the time we get to Election Day”
rush limbaugh? really?
Obviously the stock market doesn't agree with your assessment of the situation.
http://www.crossingwallstreet.com/archives/2012/01/stock-market-quietly-sneaks-up-on-all-time-high.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46055344/Stocks_Log_3_Day_Rally_Vix_Tumbles_Near_20
The only thing corrupt is your GOP/Teapotty take on good news.
American businesses are doing well...globally, they have trillions in banks off shore (that they admit). Even GM opened plants in Mexico and China while contracting(shrinking) within the us...with obamas help GM created jobs overseas...with tax payer money...for union votes. So please JEAN don't post when you don't know what your doing...ok?
@ Howard & exlax
Seems the news sources don't agree with your assessments.
This from February 2, 2012
http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2012/02/domestics-transplants-adding-more-auto-jobs/
This from 6 hours ago.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2012/02/05/Auto-Outlook-Obama-praises-US-auto-comeback/UPI-54831328436000/?spt=hs&or=bn
And:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/technology/apple_steve_jobs/index.htm
According to Chris Isadore the CNNMONEYTECH reporter 1/25/2012
Obama Created More Jobs Than Steve Jobs' Apple.
I think you will find the last a very interesting read..... the math knocks a big hole in your non-focused ramblings.
And from the GoUpState.com Wed. January11, 2012
"Auto Bailout Has Created 10 Times More Jobs Than Romney"
http://forum.goupstate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8926
poor Jean...all you can do is cherry pick left wing new articles to argue for a president who is a failure and sinking fast... You can't put a college lecturer (not even a tenured prof)/community organizer/civil rights lawyer/do nothing senator into the office of the president and expect results that are meaningful when it comes to jobs and national defense...obama just aint got it...and not you or anyone else's shabby snow jobs can change that.
@exlax Definitely no cherry picking...just that as per usual you can't handle the truth.
What surplus are you talking about? And since when does having a PLAN to achieve a 5.6 Trillion dollar surplus go from a PLAN to having th the cash on hand? All the democrats had was a PLAN to achieve a surplus they never had the cash on hand since a republican congress never approved the plan. When you are taliking about facts, get them straight!. As far as unemployment goes, that number ONLY represents those that have applied for or are receiving an unemployment bernefit. If a person drops out from the unemployment line because they gave up looking for work, then are simply not counted. So the unemployment figure is much higher than 8.3%, althou I do agree that more jobs were added in January, we definitely need more manufacturing jobs to get us thru this recession.
We live in fear of the craziness/seat of the pants decisions from Washington DC (constant financial threats, interest law changes, taxable/nontaxable changes in investments etc) coming out of OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. I used to be a fear of Nikita Khrushchev: "We will bury you!" Now it is a fear that our own country/Obama is following NKs role model with an elite ruling class of government politicians (who have already exempted themselves from the Obamacare and Social Security and Insider Trading, yet they forced these rules on the US citizens ) and who also steal the money of the US citizens in the form of EXCESSIVE taxes and tariffs (Did you buy new tires this year?–the US charges a tariff on tires from China raking in $700,000 million for the government and saving only1000 union jobs at the cost to the citizens who bought tires made in China (more help for the Unions who chased manufacturing off shore and now have the government cramming costs down to us through the back door!
Obama's lack of professionalism, name-calling and arrogance is unprecedented .
I work under the DOI (Agency and Job Title withheld) and Veterans Preferance is already given. In fact, a non- veteran can not be hired until qualified veterans turn down job offers. So, what's different?
Just more squanderous spending.....to win reelection.
Well, is there some reason we should be concerned with your take on the "spending" in this country? I'm sure you were the most vocal, when Dubya was spending through the surplus and instead adding $4 trillion in debts. Yeah, I'd bet you had a lot to say then ..... Yeah right. Go lay down Rick until we've got this thing figured out, without your expert recommendations....
No Trace-Rick wasn't whining when Bush was sending him an unneeded stimulus check to buy his vote.
Vets have earned GI Bill rights to attend college, they should ALL use it to find a career they like. As for the government paying GI's (or anyone, including welfare, public housing, food stamps, etc) that should be minimized and time limited. It's the only way to get people to get up and go to work.
Chris, while I agree with the overall nature of your comment, I don't think anyone can truly understand some of the difficulties with transition from military to civilian unless they've experienced it and had gone through those struggles. The primary difficulty has been civilian corporations looking at a resume from someone in the military and not being able to translate those job titles and responsibilities to its equivolancy in the civilian world. If I were to say I was a battalion commander on a resume, that should essentially translate to an upper level management position. But many companies pass this over because they don't understand that it involved being in charge of 450 personnel and over $1billion worth of equipment. Or if I said I were a task force S3 Operations Officer... civilians don't really know what that entails as opposed to a civilian stating he was Chief Operations Officer of a department in GE. Or to say I was a Staff Sergeant for an EOD unit... how would any corporation understand what skill sets I have. Essentially, all this is doing is giving incentive to civilian corporations to give military personnel an opportunity to interview to better explain the responsibilities they have had and their specific set of skills.
Is this the best way to go about it... probably not. It would be better to teach Soldiers how to translate their own military occupations into terms civilian corporations can understand because, unless the Soldier had discipline issues and was chaptered out under an other than honorable discharge, the skill sets and work ethic are there. I don't know of too many people outside of the military who would work 90 to 100 hour weeks with an average of a $40k salary.
buying more votes with tax payer money.... dear obama, why don't you do something besides spend our money...how about REAL job creation or is that anti-marxist?
Actually if you expect accuracy.... Bush's stimulus rebate checks were the true form of vote buying which tanked the economy.
are you talking about his 150 billion stimulus feb 2008 as President Bush was leaving office...or the Troubled Asset Reilief Program of the fall of 2008 (700 billion toxic asset buyback)? How is that vote buying? Remember the 150 billion in Feb 08 was given to lower earners only...not exactly going after the big buck either.
No exlax I am talking about those tax rebate stimulus checks mailed in 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006...etc.
BUSH TAX REBATE STIMULUS CHECKS = VOTE BUYING
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×2710982
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/20/273795/ten-years-ago-bush-tax-cuts/
"U.S. To Borrow Billions to Cover Tax Refund Checks"
"As debates about deficit reduction continued to be heavily tilted toward cutting spending, which threatens to undermine a fragile recovery, rather than raising revenue from those who can afford it, it’s important to remember the budgetary impact of the Bush tax cuts.
Nearly 10 years ago today, on August 1, 2001, the Associated Press reported that the Treasury Department was tapping $51 billion of credit in order to pay for the budgetary cost of the first round of Bush tax cuts’ rebate checks. The AP reported at the time that Democratic Party opponents of the tax cuts worried that they’d return government budgets to “red ink“:
Basically the amount to be borrowed was $1.35 Trillion over 10 years to send each tax payer a rebate/stimulus check. So when you wonder about the current Federal Deficit....think about that.
http://patkagmak.hubpages.com/hub/irs-tax-rebate-checks-bush-tax-rebate
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/sessions-wrong-on-bush-tax-cuts/
http://www.freakonomics.com/2008/05/02/likely-effects-of-the-tax-rebate-checks/
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/22891.html
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2010/09/17/Bush-Tax-Cuts-No-Economic-Help.aspx#page1
Add that major financial mismanagement to also borrowing for 2 unfunded wars. Is it any wonder the economy tanked in 2007 and 2008 and the deficit tripled?
Yeah...like we would listen to you jerry/ex lax on bad ideas. You wouldn't know your hat from your overcoat. Like I told good ole Ricky earlier, I'd be you to people were outside the WH protesting all of Dubya's spending...weren't ya...uh? I can't hear ya ...That's what I thought...incredibly vapid as usual.
I don't think Bush did the right thing...as he was at the end of his presidency, but he is responsible for a very small amount of bailout. Paulson was a bad choice.
Yes...G. W. Bush what a bummer so his appointee was a bad choice... just like the rest he made. How marvelous..that now you want to blame another of G. W. Bush's mistakes on his appointee? LMAO!
Can't you wrap your head around the fact that his full 8 years was one giant mistake for the American people?
Biden can't keep his foot out of his mouth and Panetta is destructing due to ignorance...if you really want to look at appointees...hahaha
@exlax The only one destructing around here is you.... from ignorance overload.
What's $5 Billion, as compared to $1 Trillion that GW Bush spent to send our troops to Iraq to get killed and maimed?
More promises from the FOOL_IN_CHIEF.... let the LEECH spend his own money.
Amazing how Obama is fixing Bush's mess right after Clinton Cleansed Reagan-Bush Trickle down economics. Which is what Mitt Robbed me (an the American People) wants to get back to. Give more money to the Rich and maybe, Just maybe that money will trickle down to the Middle class and the poor. "We are spending too much" is the worst argument from when George W. Bush Cut taxes in 2001 letting 14% rates become the norm on Millionares. Its not the spending its the rediculous money being robbed from the Government that pays the teachers who teach our Children in Public schools and the lights and air that stay on during a class session. Stop the BS. Fair tax should be 25 to 32%. Pay your share and stop asking Grandma to pay for your portion Mr. Robbed me (say it fast enought like that clown with a nasal voice Romney) .
Thanks...I enjoy that you pointed out that Mitt expects grandma to pay the difference for his getting that 14% tax rate.
Obama is removed from the ballot in the great state of Georgia! THANK GOD! All I can hope for is that every Secretary of State follow through.
http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/2012/01/georgia-judge-orders-obama-off-the-ballot/
But if he can do all that why stop there..These jobs are only for vets , and thats great dont get me wrong..But if you really want to impress everyone why not do the same for the general population. From his track record it smells like another failed policy..
30% of vets participating in the labor market own or co-own a small business. My thank you to the President for proposing a national Vets Entrepreneur Training initiative for vets and their families. A worthy investment in our best and brightest that the previous Administration chose to ignore. Bill
A hefty price tag???? MY @$$! I am a USMC veteran of the Gulf War, not a behind the lines Marine mind you. Most of the bad stuff I saw happened to the Iraqi soldiers. While clearing out fighting holes we found an Iraqi soldier that died from his wounds and in his hand was a black and white photo of his wife and two girls. It will always bother me in my life. I still think about him and his family. He never returned from Kuwait to his family. Back to the Home Front...our Veterans of the war, they are the best. Being a Marine, we use to talk about and laugh about the Army, especially the National Guard. Times have changed. How many National Guard have been knocked off over there? A BUNCH. National guard men and women leaving their homes to go to Iraq and Afghanistan. They may not even have a job when they get back. Wounded veterans; horribly wounded veterans. I saw a female Marine with the right side of her face, including her eye missing at Bethesda, she was begging her husband, another Marine, "don;t leave me" she said to her husband, she was crying out of the one eye she had. And the rich people, many of our elected leaders do the " lip service" and salute veterans. Politicians, don't tell us how you care, tell your children to serve.
...Howard, Jerry Ex-Lax, Ricky, either one of you cowards want to tell this geniune american hero why this country shouldn't pay a hefty price to support him and his brothers at arms(?).....Oh, that's what I thought....Shut your pieholes !!!! ...quit complaining about the spending, and support the president on this one.
semper-fi brother. I'm a decorated Vietnam combat veteran (Sgt E-5). I refused to allow my son to enter the military and fight in the middle east. Because I fought while LBJ enriched himself and micro managed the Vietnam war...I have studied LBJ for over 40 years and truly believe he was the most corrupt and despicable human being I have every know of. Obama joust pulled out of Iraq without victor (as we did in Vietnam) and is telling the Afgahan enemies when we are leaving there...he is another despicable politician.
Obama sent in a seal team at the time of his state of the union reelection speech to take out two hostages, an American religious zealot and a foreign anthropologist (who's country would have nothing to do with this operation)while negations were underway...for political gain. Risk the lives of our troops and killed nine Africans in the process...and these troops will have to live with this for the rest of their lives...for what? Please do not vote for Obama this fall.
semper-fi. I'm a USMC combat vet of Vietnam and I would not allow my son togo into the military under the current regime. Obama is much like LBJ...more interested in his own power than of national defense. I took exception with obama using our troops to go into Africa and rescue that religious zealot and foreign anthropologist (who's country would have nothing to do with the operation)...taking the lives of nine Africans while negations were underway....all of this while obama was giving his state of the union snow job. We are now going where we please to take out who we please with out regard to other countries...and do you think we are being loved for it? Obama came into office apologizing for our countries actions and he does this...dispicable.
Thank you for your service.
With this many vets and paying them, you would think we could use a few to protect our Southern border with Mexico? Yes? No? If it is waiting on Obama to do it, I would say no. He wants more illegal immigrants.
Well Chris, how about you going to the southern border since many of our veterans could use a break and tender care.
thousands of troops not millions and he wants to spend billions just for jobs for a few thousand. might as well give the money directly to the troops and let them spend as they please. all this is is more waste of tax dollars just for a minimum percent of the total unemployment population. i would like for veterans to get money they deserve allot more than what this government is offering but i think its much better to just give them a big check it might turn out to be much cheaper than spend billions like he always does.
Actually the number is higher than a few thousand...according to records 32,226 were seriously wounded in Iraq, this doesn't include those with PTSD, or those not seriously wounded.
The Pentagon puts the number of those with mild brain injuries at 229,106, another 200,000 with PTSD, and using statistics they figure roughly 480,000 suffered some type of injury. Add to that the number of those from Afghanistan and the number is considerable, and climbing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-froomkin/iraq-soldiers-wounded_b_1176276.html
Topic: How Many Soldiers Were Wounded In Iraq? Guess Again.
Plus, sometimes as these veterans age the statistic for the number of war related wounds that require treatment ...even years after the war. The total count could climb higher.
Actually the original cost estimate is probably on the low end of the spectrum of what will be needed.
Sadly after all the blood and sacrifice we have left Iraq in a mess...obama reminds me of another leftist power monger who waisted lives LBJ.
Obama is trying now to hold off until after the elections to hit Iran...but, Israel knows this is a mistake and may just go ahead and force obama's hand. Obama can ill afford to start a war since he ran against President Bush and tagged him with the Iraq war. So what if Iran goes nuke or builds more missiles that will be used against us while barry plays politics...with American lives...
President Obama didn't invade Iraq and get my brother killed or thousands of other Americans and the lives of our allies.
I'm sorry for your loss...I was not for this war either and talked my nephews out of joining in... But, this was not just President bushes war...he had a lot of help from both sides of the isle. And always remember if bill clinton had been doing his job 9/11 never would have happened...President Bush inherited THAT! Obama did inherit a war that was won...and lost it! I'm a marine vietcombat vet and I got stung by a leftist president to...and that one cost over54k lives.
Sorry exlax but the truth is it was Bush & Cheney's war. President Clinton did his job and warned Bush...not his fault Bush didn't listen. Plus, bin Laden was never in Iraq and there were NO may I repeat No WMD in Iraq.
It was just their excuse to go after Saddam Hussein for threatening Papa Bush, and making their War profiteers wealthy.
I assure you President Clinton didn't say invade Iraq.
Actually the Iraqi's ask that we leave....just like they didn't ask us to invade them.
clinton was press when the world trade center was hit the first time and also could have gotten Osama after that and did not....he was probably too busy with Monika....scum bag that he is.
@ exlax
Research says Clinton warned Bush...Bush ignored.
http://www.wnd.com/2003/10/21299/
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,612309,00.html
Condoleezza Rice testified before the 9/11 Commission, that President Bush was briefed 40 times about Osama bin Laden during the 8 months after he he took office and before 9-11.
On May 16, 17 , 2001. The US was warned that operatives were inside the U. S. and planning an Attack.
On May 30, 2001 The FBI Warned of Major Al Qaeda Operations Involving Hijackings, Explosives and/or New York.
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?warning_signs:_specific_cases=complete_911_timeline__strike_in_us__pdb&timeline=complete_911_timeline
Waste of money, troops are employable just fine when they have served their country honorably. They know hard work, dedication, and loyalty. These make them employable alone and most people hiring are looking for these qualities. They dont' need more government forcing employers to hire someone that isn't more qualified for incentives or to avoid penelties. I know many people who have left service and they didn't have a problem finding a job, they did have a problem finding a job that was right for them, but they always had work and they eventually found what they needed. Occasionally through they had to actually move but that is reality for any professional.
Ok thats nice but it's the government that is creating these jobs which means that the money to pay for the salaries of these veterans is paid for by taxpayers. BTW I'm an unemployed veteran too. Why do veterans have to stay with government related jobs?? Instead of police or firefighting jobs, why don't we hold workshops with private companies for vets so that they can get jobs in the private sector??
this is election year politics... employers have always given vets jobs. obama has cost jobs...and he wants you to believe differently.
@Steven The last time I checked my property tax it pays for police and firefighters which are government jobs... taxpayers pay for those too.
Where are you and exlax living in your mothers' basements.
The last president to really kill jobs with his horrible policies was George W. Bush.
Before their knee jerk reaction of no. The Republicans need to ask. What price do we vets pay? What price do our families pay. My family like many others paid the ultimate price. For us it was my brother. Republicans need to think on that before they start complaining about cost.
"The president also announced he will propose expanding training programs for entrepreneurially focused veterans seeking to start their own businesses. " Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Right! He is too busy playing golf, entertaining basketball stars and the Hlywood gang!
This guy is ALL TALK. He can not get the support of the Democrats let alone anyone else. He presented a budget months ago that 2 people agreed to, but he is so full of hot air, I surprises he has not floated away. His key team for speeches includes those who study the polls. He speaks to make people cheer not to manage a country. He is like a parent who wants to be a kid'–s best friend, rather that telling all the abusers of the economy like illegal immigrants going to our schools free and getting tax credits for their children when they ;pay NO taxes. Or gangs stealing and selling mcars and selling the parts, drug dealers, sex trade, weapons illegal sells-no taxes paid. He is scared to death to manage the problems because someone might not vote from him if he enforces laws on the book or he closes the candy bag.
@RedDumb
Listed in the White House links above for Feb. 6th it seems President Obama is to host veterans at the White House. Which seems to poke a big hole in your spiel.
For someone who you claim is all talk, the President is doing a remarkable job of turning Bush's wreck of an economy around.
As for that part about illegal immigrants not paying taxes, or getting tax credits for their children you are dumber than a box of rocks. No one gets tax credits without filing for taxes and having paid taxes. Many illegal immigrants pay taxes but do not file for a refund.
http://roygermano.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/do-illegal-immigrants-pay-taxes/
Do Illegal Immigrants Pay Taxes? Feb. 28, 2011 by Roy Geramano, PhD. The answer is YES!
At the Reason Foundation this article....Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think, by Shikha Dalmia – May 1, 2008.
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http://reason.org/news/show/122411.html
FYI: This president doesn't seem to be afraid of much. He has given orders to take out Osama bin Laden, Gadhafi, and a host of al Qaeda operatives, plus given orders to drop into Somalia and rescue prisoners,.
Maybe before you post you should do some research and quit listening to the hot-air windbag drop-outs like Limbag at Faux.
why do you keep calling 5$ Bn a "hefty price tag" when the DoD is cutting 500$ Bn over the next 10 years? Tens of thousands of active duty will be forced out, along with DoD civilian employees and contractors, many of whom are veterans as well. Spending 1% of the amount cut isnt so "hefty" to help those men and women find employment is it?