February 17th, 2012
10:21 AM ET

Contraceptive controversy gets ugly

WHITE HOUSE (CNN) - Welcome to the culture wars 2.0, where the front lines now are religious freedom and contraceptives. Abortion? Gay marriage? Those are so last year.

The White House seems to have assuaged the concerns of liberal and moderate religious voices, particularly Catholics, who complained that the U.S. Health and Human Services mandate on contraceptive coverage violated religious freedom of conscience. The policy now includes a wide exemption for religious groups; requires insurance companies, instead of religious employers, to foot the bill; and still includes a year to hammer out the details.

But now, the issue is firmly entrenched in a political battle on Capitol Hill. Republicans are seizing on the issue as an opportunity to push back on the Affordable Care Act, which they gleefully call "Obamacare." Democrats, meanwhile, are punching back, saying that rolling back the mandate is a slap in the face to women and that this is exclusively a women's health issue.

Political shots were fired from both sides at a Thursday hearing convened by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

The hearing, titled "Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience?" featured conservative religious voices from across the spectrum, most of whom were male.

"Today's hearing is a solemn one. It involves freedom of conscience," Issa said at the beginning of the hearing.

For the full story, click here.

CNN Producer Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

Topics: Contraceptives • Health care • The News

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  1. mike tampa

    what a joke, this is clearly an assault on women's health issues and I hope women get it. Interesting how the GOP is okay with insurance plans paying for viagra but not for birth control for women. GOP women wise up and knock the Sh.....t out of your men!!

    February 17, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • cheif

      ok gloria steinham... what makes this a GOP man thing? i originally thought your had to be an idiot but changed my mind because an idiot wouldnt have made that comment

      February 17, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
      • cheif

        ok gloria steinham... what makes this a GOP man thing? i originally thought your had to be an moron but changed my mind because an moron wouldnt have made that comment

        February 17, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • cheif

      ok gloria steinham... what makes this a GOP man thing?

      February 17, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  2. Jules

    This is nuts – what do women have to do – storm the congress? This is an assault on the Constitution alright in that religious institutions get to decide what kind of healthcare a woman can receive and whether or not her insurance will cover it. Does anyone think the insurance companies mind covering this for religious institutions? You think they would rather cover the diseases that contraception is sometimes prescribed for, or prenatal care, post natal care, birth and pediatric and adult care for up to 26 years? Is this all this GOP House has to do? It is time to clean the house!

    February 17, 2012 at 11:17 am |
  3. jean2009

    GOP=AmericanTaliban. This is not Afghanistan or Pakistan and the GOP has on too many occasions forgotten that in this country women have equal rights under the law. In this country NO religion should be allowed to dictate which health care options should be available and provided for in an employees insurance policy which is basically wages due to that employee. To allow that to happen is to allow religious organization the right to walk all over the Constitutional rights of women.

    February 17, 2012 at 11:25 am |
  4. george of the jungle

    if we where talking penises here it would be a different story . The repos are running out of ammunition to use against the president. We see this attack for what it is. Move on

    February 17, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • JAG0419

      I agree. The only vaginas Republicans deem worthy of protection have babies passing through them.

      February 17, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
  5. judy

    These fat ol trolls need to mind their own business. Women unite vote them all out Obama 2012

    February 17, 2012 at 11:40 am |
  6. J

    I'm an Athiest, but I heavily believe in Freedom of Religion.

    If you are religious, you should be free to do what you think is right, etc.
    One one condition – that it does not interfere with the freedoms of another.
    Call it a "Freedom from Religion" act.

    February 17, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • jean2009

      Correct and the 98% of women whose wages earned them the right to contraceptives being a part of their health insurance coverage should be able to purchase contraceptives regardless of where they work...and no religious organization should have a right to deny them access.

      February 17, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
  7. Steve- Illinois

    Why is it, that of all medications taken, birth control is signaled out to be provided at no cost to the recipient? This is not a women's health issue since 80-90% of those taking them, do not do so to treat a medical condition. This is possibly a genius plan by Dems to find a way to "pay" a huge number of women voters to vote for them. (Taking the cost of a monthly expense away from them, while still supplying them with the product they want is equal to paying them.)

    Viagra is not provided for free!!

    February 17, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Boomer in Mo

      And I don't know why the pill, IUDs, diaphrams or implants should be free either. Looks like they should have the standard prescription co-pay just like antibiotics.

      February 17, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
      • jean2009

        There is currently no copay for antibiotics.

        February 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
    • jean2009

      Because the church wants to walk all over women's individual freedoms and deny them access by not paying for their prescriptions....however they have no problem paying for your Viagra. More than likely 80 to 90% of men have no medical need for Viagra.

      February 17, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
      • Steve- Illinois

        Viagra is not covered 100% without co-pays etc. 80-90% of women that take the pill do so as choice with no medical necessity involved!

        February 17, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
      • jean2009

        @Steve then let the Catholic church provide contraceptives with a copay. Since a woman's work hours=health insurance coverage let the woman decide if she wants to have contraceptives available in her plan. If they don't want to do that then let the insurance company provide contraceptives without a copay.

        The choice should be the individual's not something mandated by religion. Separation of Church and State is a two way street....in the end a woman has rights guaranteed under the Constitution. Individual rights to believe that for her contraception is right... the Church is trying to walk all over her individual rights.

        Question this: If she is laid off from her Church based job and does not earn enough hours to pay for her health insurance does she have to purchase COBRA? If so, then earned wage=insurance. It is her earned wages which are paying for her insurance premium....Since when can the employer tell you which house or vehicle to purchase with your wages...so they shouldn't be able to deny what your wages for health insurance premium can buy.

        February 17, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • mike tampa

      You are incorrect Steve, birth control pills are prescribed to alleviate severve cramping during periods, endometriosis, regulating periods and a host of other women's health issues, not just for birth control. Educate yourselve before you make stupid statements and you are incorrect on some plans for viagra as well, there is a small co-pay for a pill that costs over $30 for one without insurance.

      February 17, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
      • Steve- Illinois

        80-90% of women on the pill do not take it for any medical reason other than birth control which is not a medical necessity! Viagra is treated like any other prescription under a health insurance policy! Why is insulin not required to be given for free, high blood pressure medication, high cholestrol medication?
        Why is the pill being singaled out as a "must provide at no cost" prescription?
        The sole reason is to buy votes!

        Try educating yourself, Einstein!

        February 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
      • Risky

        It's incorrect to think that this is a ploy to buy votes. It was explained already but you werent listening. BC is most commonly used. Because of that, obviously women around the country can benefit from the money they saved. Just because it is a choice and not a necessity makes no difference. It is still a health issue. Incase you missed it, BC IS MOST COMMONLY USED.

        February 17, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
      • Steve- Illinois

        @Risky, and the fact that it is commonly used means it should be supplied for free?
        Funny how this has never come up as an issue, or even an idea, until it's re-election time!
        If you don't think handing women an extras $30-$50 or whatever their co-pay is, each month isn't a ploy to buy votes, then nothing is!

        February 17, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
      • GreggWH

        Everyone keeps saying contraception and no mention of the morning after pill. Personal responsibility is needed. Should helmets, boots and jackets be provided for them? How about the harness to hook some one to a parachute?

        February 17, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
      • Risky

        Do you suffer from selective reading? To make it free means women around the country have more money to spend on something MORE necessary; like food and bills.

        February 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
      • C-Lo

        @ Steve- Ill.

        You are absolutely right, and Risky proved it with his/her comment–so they have money to spend on something necessary like food. Risky–why not make the food free? oh yeah they do.

        If/when it's medically necessary (and yes there are times it is) then by all means, it should be provided at the same deductable/co-pay as any other medication. They do the same thing with anti-depressants when used to stop chronic headaches.

        Like Steve said–if it's for medical reasons, then why not the co-pay like other more necessary medications (insulin, blood pressure) and only when it is medically necessary.

        Moreover, just more intrusion by the gov't into individual decisions. If a company wants an insurance plan that covers contraception, it's out there. You libs are all about pro choice (double entendre) when the choice is yours. Just like you're all about free speech unless you disagree with it.

        This has less to do with contraception availability and more to do with gov't mandates mandates mandates (as Ron Paul would say). There is no restriction from receiving contraception, you just have to pay for it. Risky–what's more important groceries or a late night fling?

        Last, why aren't condoms, diaphrams, lubricant, IUDs, vasectomies, etc offered for "free" (the left's pseudonym for taxpayer funded).

        February 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
      • Risky

        When you only identify BC/contraception to only late night flings, then I've already thought of you as a lost cause. Quite sad...And yes lets get everyone on food stamps because C-Lo says so...

        I see you're a Ron Paul fan. Sorry I dont care to listen to Ron P ever since he was quoted "if an employee is harrassed, then they should just quit their job."

        I'd like to imply that your freedom of speech thing does not apply to me. I will listen and read everything you say if toward me. And just because I fight back does not mean I'm denying you the right to say what you want.

        And lastly, your question toward me holds no merit worth answering.

        February 17, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • Pam Avery

      Contraceptive pills are not used for Erectile Dysfunction! This is an ignorant comment. I have a daughter with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome who needs birth control type pills to treat the disease, although she cannot get them or afford them. Men only think of reproductive health concerning birth control, or obtaining erection-not women. Women should be the only ones to decide concerning problems concerning womens' health! Besides there are some health insurer's who will pay for Viagra, even though the ONLY use is to promote said erection! Testoterone is also frequently prescribed for men. SO unfair.

      February 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
  8. falconco

    I'm fed up with issues about contraception and religion being interjected in politics! People of all religious faiths practice contraception (and I mean Catholics, too).

    February 17, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  9. gaedens1

    obama's health care policy with respect to contraception and abstinence is practical, realistic and acceptable by majority of u.s population because it relates to family planning / educational / job opportunities and maintaining america as the leading super power. america needs increasing population but not increasing poverty. without family planning, educational opportunities and good quality of students / professionals job opportunities and well paying jobs will not come easily. students will need to stay in college for longer years to be research scholars to create job opportunities and to manufacture products economically. so they will need insurance coverages including for contracetion. adult students will be living together more and more until they are ready for marriage based on financial security. contraception insurnce coverage is very essential for economic growth and economic prosperity. american religions are based to suite the founding fathers of america and not based on old countries religions of monarchs and church leaders, that is why americans are more religious and at the same time practical, democratic and somewhat liberal.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
  10. Boomer in Mo

    Would we be having this discussion if men could get pregnant? Probably not.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
  11. magyart@yahoo.com

    This is not a BC issue, for BC is widely available. Local PP may even provide it for free. Since 2009, Walmart has furnished BC for $4/mo or $9 for a 90 day supply.

    We have a Constitutional right to the "free exercize" of our religious faith. It need not be limited to the confinds of a physical church. Religious organizations made be run like a business, but many are non profit and they are NOT secular. They are part and partial of our faith and mission.

    The Obama mandate must be stuck down, or additional restrictions will be placed on the "free exercize of religion". This is clearly an attack on religion. The left always attacks religion and gun ownership.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • jean2009

      This is clearly an attack on women's free choice to select what she believes is best for her, and it is an attack on her rights of freedom from religion as guaranteed under the Constitution.

      February 17, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
  12. Bob

    "most of whom were male"

    MOST??? MOST??? ALL of the "witnesses" were male.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
  13. jean2009

    I say the GOP could solve the problem by kicking in a half million to each women who becomes pregnant because of their stupid tactics.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • insight iowa

      Common sense tells me that 98% of all women use some form of birth control otherwise we would all be running around with 19 children and counting and our older children would be raising our younger children.

      Senator Roy Blunt, one of the GOPers still aflutter about contraception, introduced legislation to allow employers not to cover birth control and upped the ante by allowing any employer to deny any health service if they object to it. For the GOP, the birth control nontroversy is not about religious freedom, it is about the powerful, private insurance industry and denying women’s reproductive rights while undermining the Affordable Care Act.

      February 17, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  14. Willy

    Well, Steve, Viagra is meant to promote sexual activity, and isn't a contraceptive. Last I heard, men can't carry babies either. Comparing apples to oranges! FAIL!

    The problem is this – a bunch of old white men are trying to dictate "religious freedom" by imposing their "religious freedom" on 99% of women who use contraceptives, basically restricting THEIR freedom. Can it get any more hypocritical? Why yes, it can! I can bet some of the men in that group were probably questioned or involved with the child rape scandal by other priests. Some go so far as to bar contraceptives in the instance of rape and incest.

    Oh, and priests of the Catholic Church aren't allowed to marry or have sex, anyway. I expect the next hearing to be a bunch of life-conviction prisoners dictating how much officers should be paid, it's that lop-sided.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
  15. sensible

    Oh Steve..............maybe they will start providing Viagra and buy all the men's votes as well. Will that keep you happy?

    February 17, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • jean2009

      They already provide payment for Viagra.

      February 17, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
      • insight iowa

        I know... crazy right!

        February 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
      • Steve- Illinois

        They also already supply payment for the pill! Same as every other prescription on your plan! What this does is supply something completely medically unnecessary for 80-90% of the people receiving it, at no cost!
        The question shouldn't be why not, it should be why the special treatment for the pill when people have medicines they need to survive have to make their co-pays, etc The answer is votes! Nothing medical or health related about it!

        February 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • Steve- Illinois

      Nope! That won't make me happy. What will make me happy is when people start to take a little responsibility for themselves and quit expecting "Daddy Government" to take care of things as silly as this!

      February 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • livingston1

      Who do all those "men" (and I use that term loosely) plan on using the Viagra with when they take away women's birth control?
      As far as it not taking responsibility for their own actions – well exactly what do they think birth control is? Women finally getting control over their own body!

      February 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  16. Risky

    I do NOT see how this is in violation of separation of church and state. FREEDOM OF RELIGION IS JUST THAT. You are free to practice your religion and no one is stopping you.

    God gave you balls to be a man. So man up and take care of your women.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
  17. Debbie

    Freedom of conscience? Where were female Bishops? There are high level female relgious leaders. Not one woman. Not one. And so goes my vote as it is quite clear the GOP platform on women...second class citizens.

    February 17, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • Mary

      Women have always been second class citizens to the GOP.

      February 17, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
  18. Allan H. Clark

    The first thing Republicans need to do—if they are going to make this issue into a firestorm that will sweep their nominee into office along with a majority in the Senate—is to frame it as a religious freedom issue. If it is seen as an issue of women's health or contraception, it doesn't play and might even backfire.

    The GOP must keep hammering that anytime the government requires compliance with a law that religious people dislike, they are violating the first amendment. Unfortunately the legal precedents go against this view, but most people won't know that and can be fooled.

    February 17, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  19. insight iowa

    Rick Santorum’s “sugar daddy”, Foster Friess, rendered the unflappable Andrea Mitchell (and viewers) speechless when he said the country is too focused on sex; in his day birth control was an aspirin between the knees and it worked fine.

    What he left out was what happened when that "aspirin" failed. The back alley abortions that killed hundred of women... Oh, sorry was I suppose to tell you that part?

    February 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  20. insight iowa

    Another big problem I'm having with this issue and the abortion issue... I didn't see any of those against these issues stepping up and screaming to stop a war that killed thousands of women, children and men or stand up against the killing of a person because of the color of their skin or their sexual preference... wouldn't all this be considered "killing an innocent life"? The more I listen to the GOP and Tea Party the more I find them to be the most two-faced people on the face of the earth. When they get to Gods gate... do they plan on answering his question by saying I voted against abortion and the pill but I did nothing for the wars or the hate crimes that took place. How many of these GOP who are stomping on the Bible actually voted for a war?

    February 17, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  21. Christine

    1. Men should have 0 say in a women's healthcare issue.
    2. No problem with a co-pay for birth control
    3. Co-pay should be equivalent to co pay of any medication
    4. Religious / moral groups who employ others have the right to impose their religious beliefs on personal or private lives of their employees. I'm tired of those, tax exempt – scams of businesses screeching religious freedom while raking in the money
    5. The Viagra comments are 100% correct. There is no medical need for an erect penis.

    February 17, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  22. MTATL67

    Republicans continue to make one bad decision after another. For Rep Issac to have such a blatant biased all male witness list for hearing in women's health was just stupid.

    February 17, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • Boomer in Mo

      Angry white men don't get it. Never have. Never will.

      February 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • Steve- Illinois

      The hearing had no more to do with women's health, than a hearing on deep water drilling in the Gulf of Mexico would have on the route of the Keystone pipeline in Nebraska!
      Try reading the article, the title of the hearing was- "Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience?"

      February 17, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
      • Risky

        I seem to have forgotten. Could you please refresh my memory on when health insurance companies were considered a religion.

        February 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
      • C-Lo

        Risky it's not as much about religion (though that's how it's being spun from both sides) as it is about government mandates.

        Let's put it this way–this administration can try to force this issue today, what happens when the next administration decides to force everyone to purchase auto insurance that covers $80,000 cars even if you don't own a car or want one?

        What happens when they mandate what we eat (oh yeah they're doing that in North or South Carolina)? What happens when they mandate what car you drive (they've been trying)?

        What happens when...? The more reliant we are on gov't making our decisions, the less we feel responsible for making our own, and the more we ask gov't to intervene in our daily affairs. It's high time we start accepting personal responsibility for the way we run our lives both personal and business, and stop relying on gov't to provide the cushions for our falls.

        February 17, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
      • Risky

        Regarding this contraception issue, no one is making anyone do anything besides the insurance company making contraception "available." The key word is availability. And I know this has little to nothing to do with religion, thats why I'm lol'ing my ass off at people that do think its about religion(steve).

        Arguements aside, I value your opinions and understand where you're going with this. But we live in an imperfect world, with an imperfect gov't. Only time will tell what it will evolve into. So please try to chill out on the mandates thing.

        February 17, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
      • C-Lo

        Thanks Risky...I'm sorry I offended you with the late night fling...was meant to make a point (and yes a generalization).

        You hit the nail on the head without realizing it...we live in an imperfect world with "an imperfect gov't" and my overriding point is that I prefer to make my own decisions, live with my own mistakes, and create my own opportunities.

        Don't know where you got that specific RP quote, and it does sound like something he'd say, but if you explore his platforms and put it in context, it rings a little different. I like RP, but there are areas I am not on board (Foreign policy being a biggie).

        February 17, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
      • C-Lo

        Also, Risky...religion aside, how do you argue against the other "similar" benefits/medications that are either not provided or provided w/co-pay?

        February 17, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
      • Risky

        It's in his book.
        Back on topic though, I understand that there are other more serious and fatal things that could/should be covered. The only thing I can think of is because those might cost too much to make available to every female in the country. Tackle what we can afford before going after the big things. As Mr Santorum said, contraception is cheap. So why don't we try to help out the many female citizens who want to stabilize their hormone levels. It would be beneficial in the work area (dont want to work with girls that will stab me with their pen). Afterall, it's cheap, right Mr Santorum?

        February 17, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
  23. IANPMF

    So if the Catholic Church keeps pushing the same line then the Administration has to take it seriously? Where is the religious freedom issue, given that an institution has no conscience? The founding fathers were trying to protect us from the overreach of both secular and religious institutions when they wrote the First Amendment. Now the Catholic Church wants us to read the First Amendment as a license for religious institutions to control the health choices of their employees? That is a complete perversion of religious liberty. I've written more about it here – http://ianpmf.tumblr.com/post/17606366983/ianpmf-the-supreme-court-and-the-catholic-bishops

    February 17, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • jean2009

      Thank you....now the Catholic church wants to walk all over the rights of individuals (aka as women) to have the freedom of choice as to how they want to spend their work earned health care premium.

      People commenting here are not addressing the fact that if the woman is laid off she would need to purchase COBRA....which tells you who exactly who is paying for the health insurance...the employed woman.

      February 17, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
  24. Ashleigh

    Now, now. There were women witnesses here. Originally, they only were going to put one forward – Allison Dabbs Garrett, a lawyer, a professor at Oklahoma Christian University and former VP for Walmart. Did we forget about Walmart? They refused to sell Plan B and other contraceptives in their pharmacies based on their company values. But Massachusetts courts ordered in 2006 that their shelves must stock it based upon the pharmacy board's ruling. And who was in charge of the state at this time?? Why, it was ROMNEY. It was he who let government tell businesses what to sell.

    The other witness, Dr. Laura Champion, conceived through in-vitro fertilization, which the Catholic church has written off as religiously immoral and and depriving this human life of it's filial relationship in conception. Most of these embryos also die in process where only the most rigorous survive. Oh, the painful irony.

    February 17, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • Mike from Calgary

      If Romney vetoed something and the Courts override his decision, don't blame Romney for that ... but Romney's other statements (Google "Romney flip flops") indicate that he has in fact spoke in favour of just about every liberal program in one way or another. during that period in which he was a "SEVERELY CONSERVATIVE".


      February 17, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
  25. ChrisM

    Repubs are on the wrong side of this and they know it. Seems they just open their mouths to change feet.
    Ask the MILLIONS of women voters, repub, dem and independent, if they want their birth control covered by their health plans.

    February 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • jerry

      then let them pay for it...as they should. Whjo said employers have to offer insurance? Oh wait obamacare is forcing this too. Get the point? No you dont...and I'm sorry for you.

      February 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
  26. XtianNation

    If women don't want to get pregnant they need to learn to keep their damn legs closed!!!!! It's 100% effective and it never fails!!!! They might also want to think up not wearing the clothes of a wh0re!!!!

    February 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • XtianNation

      It's funny how liberals are against people taking responsibility for their own actions!!!!! Nope, instead they want good, God-fearing, hardworking Americans to pay for their fun!!!!!

      February 17, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
      • Risky

        What about victimized women? And churches arent paying for it, the insurance is. And dont give me that "but the church pays the insurance company BS. They would STILL be paying for the health insurance regardless of the contraception issue.

        February 17, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
      • C-Lo

        @ ChristianNation...it failed once 🙂

        @Risky...how does providing free birth control pills prevent rape? By your comment, that's the assertion you seem to be making.

        February 17, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
      • Risky

        I never said it prevents rape, and I certainly didn't mean for it to sound that way.

        February 17, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Ivy

      I doubt women have found a way to get pregnant on their own (BTW when is it the woman's sole responsibility to avoid sex? That is so Old Testament – don't call yourself Christian!).Therefore, it is also the man's responsibility to bring to this world children that are wanted and can be supported. Sure, we'll cross our legs for you, we wouldn't want to spread your moronic genes.

      February 17, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
      • ms

        Lol! Go Ivy. I am a good God fearing, hard working American woman. What I get I pay for. However, I think any help we get paying for meds whatever they are is great. I can't understand why men have their tighty whites in a bunch... as far as Im concerned it's. NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

        February 18, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • Zoe

      What about all the women who are not taking birth control for preventing pregnancy? do you think them closing there legs will make the pain go away? Birth control might stop people from getting pregnant, but it does alot more then that for women these days.

      February 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  27. jerry

    Hey folks! This is really about our constitutional rights and the obama administration's disreqard for them. THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES AMERICA DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD IS our constitution/bill of rights. Let them tear this apart and you will dine with the masses. obama and his chicago thugs must go!

    February 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • Risky

      He's called the divider-in-chief, but the only dividing efforst I've seen were from republicans. To name a few: Newt Gingrich bashing San Francisco, Rick Santorum and his denial of women equality, John Boehner on letting people get kicked out of their houses, and you jerry on degrading chicago.

      February 17, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
      • jerry

        sorry..it was reported this week Chicago is the most corrupt city in the country...and that says a lot when the president of America spent his years building his power base there... but, it don't mean a thing to you left wingers, lieing, stealing, murder...what ever it takes..right? Right!

        February 17, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
      • Risky

        I just dont agree with generalizations. And to further generalize in your reply toward me, it gets really old. When you judge someone based on where they're from, THAT says alot. (btw, its spelled "lying" not lieing)

        February 17, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • jean2009

      This is about women's individual constitutional right not allow a religion walk all over them and tell them what they can purchase with what they have earned. The right of free choice to purchase contraceptives with their own earned wages.
      Earned Wages = Insurance

      The last I heard employees in Catholic owned businesses earned through work their health care insurance premium. The Church is not paying the premium for non-employees nor is it providing free insurance to everyone. It the worker is laid off they will be required to purchase COBRA...so the church should not be allowed to dictate what they can or cannot purchase with their health insurance benefits.

      You are right it is about INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS to access to contraceptive health care as determined by the needs of individual women.

      February 19, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
  28. jerry

    THIS IS ABOUT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. Without our constitution/bill of rights...we dine with the hopless masses... there should be no argument on this...from anyone.

    February 17, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  29. David

    Comrade Obama welcomes you BACK to 1984. How long until Obama and his radical, hardcore, ultra-liberal, left-wing, socialist, democratic, propaganda patrol posts a sex-nazi in every bedroom in America; funded by your tax dollars. You're already paying to teach Chineese prostitutes how to drink responsibly while on the job. Heil Hit...er...Obama.

    February 17, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  30. Mama Judy

    We will remember "being in my bedroom" was more important than "JOBS". You want us to pay for contraceptives than focus on JOBS you idiots. You may have a job now .... but now for long...better get all your viagra while you are covered!

    February 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  31. Mama Judy

    Oh I forgot you are covered for LIFE! That should be cut too much government spending!

    February 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  32. Huntsville Mike

    The original issue dealt with people with certain religious beliefs taking actions that promoted sexual activities not supported by their faith. If the belief is insurance companies are paying out of their own pockets that assumption is wrong, they will be passing the cost to all its customers – including those who are now mandidated by the will of the goverment to support an act contrary to their belief. Some of the arguments sound like there are those who are more concerned about sex without responsibility than managing their own destiny.

    February 17, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
  33. Mike from Calgary


    Christians are the RODNEY DANGERFIELDS on the American Scene – NO RESPECT EH!

    February 17, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
  34. enuff

    Has anyone seen what a woman who does not use contraception can do to her body? I have a sister-in-law who had four children in 3 years. with each birth, the baby came earlier, ans earlier. The last one was born 3 1|2 mos. premature and she was on bedrest for the entire pregnancy. HER DOCTOR told her not to have any more children. Now her last child will not get any further past the age of 12 mentally. Do any of you realize that child birth is still one of the most dangerous things a woman's body goes through? Look back to the 1800s and early 1900s. A lot of women died while giving birth.

    February 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  35. Sound

    The Church lost me when it supports Viagra but not birth control pill. Why is it that we don't see more Catholics get riled up by child molestation, a Nazi sympathizing Pope, and blatant corruptions unfolding in the Vacatin?

    February 18, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
  36. Sound

    The Church lost me when it supports Viagra but not birth control pill. Why is it that we don't see more Catholics get riled up by child molestation, a Nazi sympathizing Pope, and blatant corruptions unfolding in the Vatican?

    February 18, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
  37. Mamat

    This wonderful ejcrpot has triggered so many thoughts in my mind (interesting how words of violence such as triggered are so completely absorbed into our language!) the synchronicity of stumbling onto your blog is startling in that just today I ordered Virginia Woolf's book, Thoughts On Peace In An Air Raid. I bought it after reading these inspiring words that Woolf wrote while German bombs were falling near to her house: It is a sound [the bombs] that interrupts cool and consecutive thinking about peace. Yet it is a sound- far more than prayers and anthems- that should compel one to think about peace. Unless we can think peace into existence we- not one body in this one bed but millions of bodies yet to be born- will lie in the same darkness and hear the same death rattle overhead. And so, it seems your wonderful Afghan Women's Writing ejcrpot does just that- it thinks, not only peace into existence but it allows these women to enact a kind of self-liberation from oppression, because what are written words but our thoughts made real, made tangible. It is an act of resistance to violence, to madness, when these Afghan women write their stories. They are courageous not only for their own self's survival but for the world's. I am honored and glad to be stilled into thoughtfulness by their stories.

    March 2, 2012 at 9:49 am |
  38. Marty Gottron

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    February 11, 2013 at 3:41 am |