Obama to hit Ryan’s budget plan
Ryan campaigned with Mitt Romney over the weekend.
April 2nd, 2012
02:21 PM ET

Obama to hit Ryan’s budget plan

(CNN) – President Obama is set to hit back against Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget proposal Tuesday, less than a week after the controversial measure was approved by the House of Representatives largely along partisan lines.

According to senior administration officials, the president’s remarks at an Associated Press luncheon in Washington will echo the themes of economic fairness and shared responsibility the president advanced during a speech in Osawatomie, Kansas last fall and again at the State of the Union in January.

But this time, the president will push back on the Ryan plan specifically, largely because the measure has been praised by the Republican presidential candidates and Ryan himself campaigned for leading candidate Mitt Romney over the weekend. Moreover, these senior White House officials say, Americans are likely to oppose the plan when they learn of the deep cuts to popular entitlement programs it calls for.

The speech is the latest effort by the president to frame the upcoming election as a defining choice over which direction the economy goes, senior administration officials also say. Obama will argue that should a future Republican president enact a budget that resembles Ryan’s plan, middle class Americans will be hit especially hard and the fragile economic recovery is likely to regress.

He will also again press for the so-called “Buffet Rule,” a proposal that so far hasn’t gained significant traction in Congress. Under the proposal, all Americans making over $1 million would pay at least a 30 percent tax rate, regardless of whether their income constituted capital gains or not. Obama will speak about the measure in the broader context of tax reform, but will also express support for an upcoming Senate vote that addresses the proposal specifically.

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  1. Bob

    Time to get your fight on, Mr President, and let these Repukes know we are tired fo their crap.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Lourdes Rivera

      And the president's budget was once again voted down 414-0, NO DEMOCRATS voted for it. At least some voted for Ryan's plan. This President is the one who is partisan and desperate.

      April 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
      • nemac63

        Agreed. He couldn't even pull 'Fancy Nancy' along this time.

        April 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
      • magic beans

        Exactly. Why isn't Obama touting his own plan? Not one single Democrat voted for Obama's budget. Now that must seem strage even to a liberal, right? Open your eyes America. The Emperor has no clothes.

        April 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
      • Ann Marie


        April 2, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
      • Marcus

        What you DON'T hear watchign FOX News is that the "Obama budget" that they tried to pass only set spending levels. There were NO specifics in that bill as to how the dollars would be allocated. Voting for that budget would have been passing a blank check. Get your facts.

        April 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
      • rep

        voting for the plan wholesale leaves them (the Dems) too vulnerable to criticism by Republicans about any small part of it . it was the same last time. what happens instead is each of the points contained therein get supported by the Dems as they arise. but these measures remain generally unchanged from what's in the complete budget.

        the Buffet Rule, which was in the bill, is just one example. letting tax cuts expire for millionaires is another. voting the bill down was known and expected by Obama in advance. it's how the game is played. welcome to Politics 101.

        April 2, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
      • J

        WRONG! That wasn't a budget plan. Do you really think President (a democrat) put forth a budget and got no votes. Are you stupid? You do realize that the President doesn't write budgets. He gets his staff, senators, and reps to come up with a rough and he approves it. Why would these people work for the President on an issue, come up with something, and then not vote for their own words. This is why our country is failing. Ignorance!

        April 2, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
      • chris matthews

        Where is the proof? I would like to see where you seen this take place?

        April 2, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
      • Blizzardo

        that bill wasnt drafted by democrats
        it was put together by republicans using obamas numbers

        both sides have done this over the years
        its a political ploy and you all fell for it

        April 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
      • neal

        GEE..i wonder why......because ALOT of those same democrats..would be affected by the BUFFETT RULE..

        dem's and rep's in congress especially the HOUSE...are ALL greedy PIGS!!!...they are hippcrites!!!

        they wanna "reduce" the deficit..but nobody wants to cut anything...they want "new" revenue..but they want the lil guy to fork it over..they dont wanna down grade from a private jet..to first class...it's pitiful i tell ya.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:58 am |
      • kjswartz

        A good compromise leaves everybody angry. If everyone voted against it, President Obama's budget must have been an EXCELLENT compromise!

        April 3, 2012 at 7:23 am |
      • Ray E. (Georgia)

        Do you realise Jimmy Cartier is dancing in the streets and counting his peanuts. He is no longer the worst president of all time. He's doing a Gene Kelly, I'M SINGIN IN THE RAIN!!

        April 3, 2012 at 8:47 am |
      • dionysusBeer

        @Ray E. (Georgia)- The world existed before the 1980s you know. There have been several worse presidents than Carter: Andrew Johnson, Grant, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, Zachary Taylor. William Harrison, Benjamin Harrison, and even George W. Bush for example. Carter is rated at about 27th by historians (liberal and conservative) which is below average for sure, but it's far from the worst in history.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:57 am |
      • miamidade

        Where are you getting this inforamtion from.... mind telling us

        April 3, 2012 at 9:37 am |


        April 3, 2012 at 9:55 am |
      • Former republican

        Lol idk how anyone can say the repubs have been team players.The only thing the gop can say is no to everything and filibuster every bill that has been out there to help the middle class.The gop has made it very clear that they can care less about fixing our country their main focus is making obama a one term president even if it means taking our country down.We need to get rid of the gop period if we want to progress,the gop want to take us back to the 1800s where there are rich land barons and the rest of us work for pennies.The gop budget is once again one sided toward the rich and their intentions r very clear on the rich getting all the help while the rest of us get screwed,same old gop crap.I left the gop because of all the biggorty and hatred toward the less fortunate and jobless.Instead of bashing people why not try helping the middleclass for a change.

        April 3, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
      • 3lutz3toe

        Talking about being clueless. If Ryan had anything to do w/ the budget, none of you would be getting any SS or Medicare!

        (Someone has mentioned before the irony of seeing all of these seniors GOP holding signs supporting GOP and Scott Walker!)

        April 3, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • MIke

      Obama is clueless about a lot of things especially budget, NO EXPERIENCE. He already flushed billions of tax payers money down the toilet as an amateur venture capitalist in green energy with tax payer money...

      April 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
      • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

        Yeah, just like his predecessor did when he went to war without securing the funding.

        April 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
      • Blizzardo

        thanks for the copy and paste

        April 2, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
      • neal

        ..ya ok lets put MITTENs..in the white house ..and watch him SPEND MORE MONEY than obama...and..DUBYA combined...

        it'll happen...he wants to make the tax cuts deeper than what they are now..that's pretty scary...

        you think the deficit is high now?

        4 or even 8 years of mitt...would mean certain bankruptcy for this country...and at the end of those 4 or 8 years..

        IF MITTENS is elected...

        you'd say..."oh ...well"..."deficits dont mean anything"...."even though were $28 trillion in debt"...

        you sound like something recycled...that came out of dick cheney...

        April 3, 2012 at 4:01 am |
      • Terry - Indiana

        Good point. Help me out: Did we every find those WMD's that cost the US over two trillion dollars and thousands of American Service Personnel? Republicans seem to have money for the Military Industrial Complex but they are not interested in Medicare for elderly Americans. Works for me! Get rid of all the old people and our troubles go away.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:50 am |
      • filthburger

        you don't know much about what happened with solar energy. the problem with solar in America is that China is making HUGE investments in the solar industry to undercut us. solyndra did nothing wrong. try to educate yourself. if you were a true American, you would realize that you are defending China at the expense of American industry. Until this country starts to seriously invest in itself again, China will beat us every time. Try defending American for once instead of taking every chance to make a cheap shot at the POTUS.

        April 3, 2012 at 10:48 am |
      • Indgreg

        Hey filth, first there were lenty of warning sligns with Solyndra that were ignored by the administration. Secondly, how do these guys not know that China would undercut us? Of course they would. They want to control the market. IThat's what happens when you don't have business experience. You ignore the risks associated with investments and believe, that just because you think your cause is right, that makes a bad investment ok. With those kind of warning signs and the impact that China's price manipulation would have on Solyndra, no way you give them a loan gurantee. And this isn't the only failure – there are several others all with similar stories. We need business people making business investments.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • ghags17

      his own budget failed 421-0 what fight does he have left. Oh yeah send healthcare overseas

      April 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
      • Blizzardo

        that wasnt his budget

        do some research, you fell for an old political ploy

        April 2, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
      • Terry - Indiana

        Actually, I fill my prescription drugs at a pharmacy in France. Even with shipping, I pay 60% less than what I was paying CVS locally. By the way, read the healthcare bill. The Pharmaceutical Companies ponied up $80 Billion over ten years if the government would stop the reimportation of prescription drugs. My personal loophole will be closed in 2014.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:53 am |
      • Terry - Indiana

        Do you own research and stop listening to FOX News.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:54 am |
      • Todd in DC

        What in the WORLD are you talking about? You really think a buget proposal could fail unanimously? You've been watching Fox, or some right wing blog, haven't you?

        April 3, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • BADGUY

      Ryan's budget is good for the top 1%. Bad for the rest of us. Give it NO consideration!

      April 2, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
      • Lee


        April 2, 2012 at 10:57 pm |
      • 40acres

        No badguy, give it plenty of consideration. Find out what the entire Republican party wants to do to the middle class. And while you're considering it, make sure you start planning for that addition on your house for the parents/inlaws to move in to.

        April 3, 2012 at 7:41 am |
      • dew

        your right obama budget is better,i forgot what obama budget was. could you please tell me.thank you

        April 3, 2012 at 8:19 am |
  2. C-Lo

    " ...the president will push back on the Ryan plan specifically, largely because the measure has been praised by the Republican presidential candidates..." but they say he doesn't play partisan politics??? So he's not pushing back against the bill, but because it's endorsed by the other side.

    "deep cuts to popular entitlement programs it calls for" of course people aren't going to approve of taking my money out of thier pockets.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • magic beans

      What those people need to ask themselves is, what if nothing is done about it? If you don't change social security and medicare they go bankrupt before I retire. I am 41 and I am much more willing to make gradual changes now while we have time than to face huge cuts when it is too late. That will decimate the poor and middle class. Obama doesn't care. All that matters is next four years and all the "flexibility" they will bring.

      April 2, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
      • Ann Marie

        Hey magic pants, how's that Faux news working for you?

        April 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
      • James

        Worried about social secuirty and medicre? Remember what that famed Republican said, if you don't have a job or are not rich, blame yourself.

        April 2, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Blizzardo

      so naive

      April 2, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Blizzardo

      maybe you should actually listen to the words that come out of his mouth rather than waiting to see what conservative pundits tell you he said

      you really believe he got up there and said that?

      when do you get tired of the right taking you for a fool and telling you what you should feel

      April 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
      • C-Lo

        Blizzardo...these comments were written right here on this blog, by Mr. Alexander Mooney, and if you read any of the other posts with his byline, he can hardly be considered a foe of BO. He cited "senior administration officials" not even just a "whitehouse staffer." Generally these "officials" are lock step in line with the chief administrator himself, and if they are not, it stil falls on his shoulders (as it has for every POTUS before). I wasn't quoting BO, I was quoting the article, did you even read it with any sense of critical thinking, or do you just blindly defend BO at every turn?

        Fact is, I listen to almost no "right wing pundantry" more lefty lib trash talk than anything–ever hear of Norman Goldman? I read the lefty blogs–Daily Kozmonot and Huffing and Puffing post, among others. If GWB was the question, BO is most certainly not the answer–they're a lot more alike than any lefty will ever admit.

        April 3, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • filthburger

      funny about those "entitlement" programs. I personally know many right wingers, and i'm talking tea partiers that are:
      1. on medicare for their healtcare. his argument is "i paid into it so i get mine. forget everyone else."
      2. a fireman. state employed and union. he has a pretty comfortable lifestyle for working one day a week. personally, for a guy that puts his life on the line like that on occasion, he's worth every penny, with the exception of the fact that most firefighters sleep, eat, and workout all day.

      so, they are voting pure republican, which is against their own interests. talk about sheep.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:53 am |
  3. norma jean.

    THe Ryan plan is just llike any other plan that the Republicants have come up with...it hurts the economic middle and lower classes and gives another break to the wealthy. NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND IT ISN'T GOING TO!! As long as they get theirs, they don't care about the rest of us nor what happens to the country at large!!!!George Bush started with a surplus, he left a huge defecit and two wars for this president to deal with. During this clean up time the Repubs have done nothing but distruct. They don't care about this country they just want to enjoy their high life!Our votes against this are important!!!!!!!

    April 2, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • ajs3176

      Please describe this surplus. Obama has added more debt than all presidents thru clinton...

      April 2, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
      • Wow you are stupid

        Our budget had a surplus under Clinton and he had fewer people on welfare than any president before him for like 30 years. Bush blew over a Trillion dollars and cost thousands of American lives all for nothing. Unless you are making more than 250K a year and I know you arent, why would you support the Republican party who literally doesnt care about unless they are in the upper class. Actually they do care about you because they realize that your ignorance will put you in a position to think that the republican party actually gives a shit about your broke ass that needs every government program available.

        April 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
      • 40acres

        That is just plain wrong aj. Bush added 6.08 trillion to the budget. Obama has so far added 3.25 trillion.

        April 3, 2012 at 7:46 am |
    • jeedub

      I noticed you misspelled the word "Republican" in a couple of your posts. Or perhaps you were intentionally resorting to childish name-calling?

      April 2, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Lee

      I guess the the 6trillion debt (more than all presidents combined) is just fine with you! Where is the outrage on that? I guess only Bush can possibly be the blame, right.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • neal

      FINALLY some truth!!!

      OBAMA 2012!!!....HILLARY 2016!!!!

      April 3, 2012 at 4:03 am |
  4. Marry

    The President will have a lot to say in the coming month about the nonsense the GOP has been spreading over the last 3 years. And anyone with a little bit of an open mind will know the President wants life to get better for all – not just for the 1%!
    Out with the party of “NO”! Another 4 years for President Obama!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • ghags17

      really, wake the F up. This will go down as the worst president this proud nation has ever had. BTW what Christian or catholic church does he take his family to on Sunday's

      April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
      • 2020

        don't spit against the wind, it will come back bit your behind

        April 2, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
      • bill

        what does being christian or cathlic have to do with politics your just mad because hes not like you a hypocrite christian. just ask yourself what would jesus do.

        April 2, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
      • quybaosky

        No, you Rep wake up ! are u at the 1% cuz this budget is designed only for the wealthy and if you're not then you shut the F up

        April 2, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
      • Reasonable

        Does it really matter where he takes his family to church. What exactly does have to do with any part of budget discussion. If you don't believe in his budget policy that is fine, but attacking his religious convictions is just rediculous and shows that you have no clue about the current argument so decide to change topics to something ideological versus actual facts. It is frustrating to see the Evangelical Christians keep bringing up what religion he is instead of having intelligent debate on policies and what we can do to rectify the current situation our country is in.

        April 2, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
      • Obama 2012

        I think you need to wake the F up. I sure is hell wont vote for Romney he is the worst nominee for this country, his plan is to take this country back to the Bush policy and I will be D ammed !!! to go back to that Era, not ever again you need to wake up and see what's really happening. Do you really want to go back to the Bush Era ??? If yes your foolish. and you need help.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:06 am |
      • neal

        LMAO...wait....stop...back it up....did you just say...worst president?

        your mistaken...that..that guy left office....3 and a half years ago...his daddy was president..and his brother "lmao..wants" to be potus..but another Bush will NOT run this country.

        ..so you call 4 million jobs created bad huh? (this is what the president who YOU say..is the worst potus)

        HAS DONE!!! in his FIRST TERM..

        cant wait to see how the recovery chuggs into his SECOND TERM..while the republicants..

        are doing they same old...same old...PARTY OF NO...keeerapp!!

        April 3, 2012 at 4:06 am |
      • brian

        I noticed you separate Christians and Catholics, and by the way what church did your God Reagan attend, oh thats right he hid out on his ranch

        April 3, 2012 at 7:43 am |
      • 40acres

        You really ought to try learning what the accomplishments of this administration have been rather than let the Republican machine tell you what they have been.

        April 3, 2012 at 7:50 am |
    • magic beans

      What does the President have to say about his own party not casting one single vote for his budget...twice? Open your mind to that Mary.

      April 2, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
      • neal

        simple....they are ALL against the Buffett rule...they dont want their taxes going up..they want the lil guy paying the taxes..while the fat cat politcians (dem's and reps in the house senate)...get to play the stock's illegally..and sit pretty and get UBER UBER UBER ..........RICH!!!!..grow a brain pal!!!

        April 3, 2012 at 4:08 am |
    • KCRICK

      The fact is that this is the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. Ed Lazear on page A15 of the Wall Street Journal lays out the financial facts as to why. I suggest you read it.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:54 am |
  5. demogoat

    The top 10 hedge fund guys made over 20 billion between them last year. Between the 10 of them they paid 3 billion in taxes. That only leaves 17 billion for the 10 of them to live on for the year. It would take 200,000 wage earners that each make 100,000 per year to make the 20 billion these 10 guys made. The 200,000 people would pay an estimated 4 billion in taxes (20% federal tax as an average). That leaves 16 billion for the 200.000 plus their families to share. Does this make any sense? The top guy was paid $3,900,000,000.00. His 15% tax on his carried interest is $585,000,000.00, leaving him $3,315,000,000.00 unless he had several deductions to lessen his tax burden.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Peter

      Why dont you become a hedge fund manager, make 2 or 3 billion and then you can donate to the U.S treasury?

      April 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • ghags17

      this president spent over $1.3 Trillion dollars with nothing to show and very little job growth. Wasted our hard earned taxpayers money

      April 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
      • magic beans

        Well his bundlers over at Solyndra have something to show for it. Their business went belly up but thanks to Obama and some last minute changes the US taxpayers are on the hook. The bundler is Kaiser of the Kaiser foundation. See Obama's friends have been doing fine even when they lose.

        April 2, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
      • Areyoukidding me?

        He has created more jobs in the last 4 years, then Bush did in 8. dealing with 2 unfunded wars retards have started (fiscal conservatives my ass). inherited a deficit that was ridiculous to begin with. now you are telling me what exactly? conservatives have a track history of being responsible? righttttt buddy...... whatever you are drinking.. I WANT TWO of those!

        April 2, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
      • vdrummin

        Wasted tax payer money ???? Where were you when Bush was giving the money away? How da ya think we got here ?

        April 2, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
      • Obama 2012

        Let's just say your Tax dollars were wasted because of your Obstructionist Repubs the party of No !!! they have blocked every job bill Obama tried to pass that why Trillions of dollars was wasted. Wake up !!!!

        April 3, 2012 at 1:13 am |
      • neal

        ....end the bush tax cuts..and cut the MILITARY..and you'll see the DEFICIT AND national debt..go DOWN

        oh wait..you want the biggest military in the world..that we DONT NEED!!!!

        and you wanna "give tax cuts"..to "job creators"

        April 3, 2012 at 4:10 am |
    • chael

      So why does it matter how much they keep. The concern should be that there is any income tax at all especially when it is used so ineptly by a government controlled by either party. I'm all for zero percent income tax and getting the government back to what it was intended to do and contracted to do.

      April 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • Lee

      Demo goat, perfect name for a democrat. Clueless and senseless as you compare numbers that only help give taxes to this f-en president as he passes it on to his green friends under the guise of stealing as much from the rich to give to the poor. Problem it is the1% that are giving all the money while you poor fools keep trying to steal more from them so u can continue to get your welfare payments!

      April 2, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
  6. Susan

    Interesting how they want to restructure Medicare and SS but none of them want to address the billions we give to corrupt governments every year.

    Why should my health benefits suffer when we have billions for Israel, Egypt, Pakistan and the likes.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
  7. houbie

    I think the President has been extremely fair when spending other people's money.

    If he was spending my money I would probably lose the ability to see it so clearly.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  8. Steveo

    Instead of taking the time to hit Ryan's budget plan, come up with one of your own!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Susan

      I do believe that is the JOB of the House.

      April 2, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
      • magic beans

        He came up with a budget and the GOP brought it up in the Senate for a vote. Not one single vote from a Democrat or anybody else for Obama's budget. How is that possible?

        April 2, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
      • neal

        you have to be careful..if you reveal too many true facts to the tea thugs..they wont like that...
        they dont wanna hear any of that...remember

        republicants..are the PARTY OF NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        April 3, 2012 at 4:11 am |
      • kjswartz

        Magic, I fail to see your problem. If the Senate majority sends the bill back without a vote, it's still the constitutional requirement for the House to try & try again until they come up with something negotiable. That's why we elect senators every six and the representatives every two years. The House membership is considered "flash in the pan" or knee-jerk reactionaries and the senate is the deliberative body. Name calling is allowed in the house (You lie, Mr President) and censured in the senate! Pack up your crying game, we will have none of it here...

        April 3, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • DC2003

      Guess you weren't paying attention!

      The official Budget proposal for FY2013 was submitted by the POTUS on Feb 14,2012 as required by law!

      April 2, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
      • Steveo

        And the results were.........?

        April 2, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
      • neal

        DITTO!!......repukes..wanna pretend....they didnt see that.."oh well the potus didnt put a budget forth"...
        these people must think we dont watch the news or something....that's ok...when the time comes for
        people like..cantor,ryan,mcconnell...and crew...to get re-elected...THEY WONT!!!

        April 3, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • DC2003

      Couldn't tell ya since the House won't even take it up!

      April 2, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
      • Steveo

        What did the Senate do?

        April 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
      • Lourdes Rivera

        It is the Democrat controlled Senate that has taken up the budget for 3 YEARS

        April 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
      • nemac63

        You're funny: thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/​...obama-budget-proposal-in-0-414-vote.

        And the House did pass a budget: http://www.npr.org/.../29/149632898/​house-passes-2013-budget-that-includes...

        April 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
      • Steveo

        The House took it up and defeated it 414-0. There are only 435 members in the house. Not one Dem voted for it! it!

        A 97-0 defeat in the DEM-led Senate! That is 511-0! Like I said earlier, instead of taking time to hit the Ryan budget, the president needs to get one of his own!

        April 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
      • ajs3176

        hahahahaha 414-0.

        April 2, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
      • magic beans

        I will answer for you. The Senate, which is controlled by the Democratic party, did not cast one single vote for Obama's budget. For the second time Obama's budget was defeated unanimously by his own party.

        April 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
  9. professor x

    Ryan is not working for the people, he's working for his party. That might win him points with them but there's still 300million people that need attending to. Thanks Ryan for being apart of the problem!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • magic beans

      Paul Ryan is making a serious attempt to deal with the problems facing our country. He has tried to be forthright with the American people about how bad off we really are. He has shown amazing political courage taking on what everyone agrees must be taken on in order to right our ship and that = entitlements. Its not fun. Its easy to attack and to scare seniors. The budget is even bi partisan. Its a place to start negotiations.

      Obama on the other hand cannot get a single vote for his budget and this is for the second time. Last time no one in his own party or in the other party would cast a vote for his budget, either. Obama is not being serious. He is playing politics and he is waiting to tell you the bad news after the election. When he could care less what you think.

      April 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
      • brian

        He and the rest of the war hawks could give a rats ass about THE country, why does no one ask why the repubs will call our own defense experts LIARS so that they can justify taking money from SS, MEDICARE, and MEDICAID, in order to buy bombs, bullets, and blonds

        April 3, 2012 at 7:53 am |
      • s

        Palin is calling for you, you seems to have so much insite to SH*&^$

        April 3, 2012 at 8:29 am |
  10. Susan

    The best thing the House could have done for Obama is to bring up the Ryan Bill again....are they nuts?

    April 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
  11. norma jean.

    This fight against the Republicant plan isn't so much about the "haves " and the "have nots" as it it is about saving this country from a position which will hamper our economy far into the future and from which it may never recover!!!!!! What ever happened to "America, the Beautiful"??? LET'S BRING IT BACK!!!!!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • ajs3176

      Obama has added 5 trillion to the deficit in 3 short years.

      April 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
      • neal

        you do realize..that.....a majority of watever he's added..is BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANTS...

        wanted to EXTEND the BUSH tax cuts.....when the DEMOCRATS told them..it would DRIVE THE DEFICIT up!!!

        REPUBLICANS DID NOT CARE!!!!....answer that!!!!......

        April 3, 2012 at 4:16 am |
      • 40acres

        No he hasn't. Try again.

        April 3, 2012 at 7:56 am |
    • BADGUY

      Let's bring back the tax rates, the rates we had BEFORE Reagan. The Rich have to pay us back for the wealth we've given them since that time! NO other answer to our debt crisit!

      April 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
  12. norma jean.

    STEVEO where have you been for the last three to four years? You haven't been listening!!!!!!!!!!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Steveo

      Yo Norma Jean! He is hitting Ryan's plan THIS YEAR. Where is the budget for THIS YEAR? As budgets are ANNUAL documents, where is it for THIS YEAR (FY 12)?

      April 2, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
      • DC2003

        Steveo ... FY2012 budget was passed last year. The spending levels were locked in based on the FY2011 budget in the agreement to the "Budget Control Act of 2011".

        April 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
      • Steveo

        @DC2003, My bad. I meant the FY 13 budget!

        April 2, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
      • zaggs

        No DC, thats just the bunk Obama and you Obamatons like to spread. it was not a budget and not all budgets were locked in.

        April 2, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
      • DC2003

        Sure whatever zaggs!
        Regardless of what you "think" ... FY2012 budget was passed & it became law. Just as FY2011 was also passed and became law.

        It's part of Congressional record, the Public law #, the dates of passage, the vote counts ... research it yourself ... don't just take whoevers word for it!

        April 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
      • Steve in SoCal

        No, there has been no budget DC2003. That's why there was the debt ceiling showdown last year. We've essentially been running on extensions. Look at what the idiot harry reid said: "There's no need for a budget." so how did one get passed both years? Really, liberals for all their civics minded believed attributes really don't know anything about how things really work. . .or should. Perhaps more class time in HS

        April 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
      • DC2003

        Well Steveo or Steve in SoCal ... you might want to work on your reading skills.
        First go and actually READ the "Budget Control Act of 2011" ... it does indeed set spending limits in reference to the "passed FY2011 budget" ... that was passed on April 15, 2011 ... Public Law 112-10.

        Then try READING the details regarding that 414-0 vote ... it was NOT Obama's budget ... it was version submitted by Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC).

        Then check out the actual details regarding that 97-0 vote ... Obama had submitted a revised budget proposal in response to the "Budget Control Act of 2011" ... the vote you are referring to was whether to scrap the original in favor of the revision! The Revision that passed on 04/15/2011.

        BTW ... I was an "A" student in Civic's

        April 3, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • Steveo

      Hang on as my reply is currently being moderated

      April 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  13. scoto

    Ryan is the "genius" (its all relative ) who gave us the brilliant idea that we should give our old people some crappy vouchers to cover their medical expenses in the place of medicare. He actually touted the idea that private insurance companies would "compete" for the business of a bunch of old people with vouchers in their possession This is the world of today's Republicans. I run a small business. You want to see how hard these insurance companies "compete" for businesses like mine, never mind old people with vouchers? If it weren't so blatantly detached from the truth it would be funny. If you are not seriously rich or seriously mentally impaired, you have no business voting for this bunch.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • 40acres

      Excellent point scoto. It would be fun being in the boardroom of the insurance companies as they discuss how much they want to cut their costs to cover all those old folks and kids with pre-existing conditions. I'm sure there would be many jokes and much laughter.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:02 am |
    • BADGUY

      Ryan's budge actually creates a HIGHER debt than Obama's. Reason: His tax breaks for the Rich take ALL THE SAVINGS from medicare, medicaid and welfare cuts and the tax increases on the poor and middle class. Not much debt reduction with Ryan's plan...just more debt than the Democrats!

      April 3, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
  14. Jace

    If President Obama were really interested in "fairness," wouldn't that demand a single rate, flat-tax? That would be fair. He's not interested in fairness, he's interested populism. Government cheese isn't the answer, people.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • 40acres

      The only way it would be fair is if it was a flat tax on all income and included all state and local taxes into the mix. The rich wouldn't want a flat tax on all income jace, it would cost them a fortune. Especially if you added in all the state and local taxes. Ask yourself who pays the VAST majority of sales tax, property tax, gasoline tax, payroll tax, etc." Is it the 1% or the 99%.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:14 am |
  15. sanity

    Last week the House rejected Obama's budget proposal 414-0; last year, the Senate rejected his proposal 95-0. For the past four years, the Democrats in Congress have not even submitted a budget for a vote. The Democrats do nothing but complain about those who actually do real work.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  16. DemsRmorons

    OBOZO – who the hell cares what you have to say...

    April 2, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • 2020

      yes, you do. you like it or not. don't like it, immigrate south, no string attached

      April 2, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
  17. Joe from CT, not Lieberman

    I would say to hit it with at least a 9mm. Although given the thickness of it, you may need armor piercers. Of course, this thing is already so full of holes (like how to pay for 20 billion in revenue cuts with only 10 billion in expenditure cuts – Republicans LOVE deficit spending!), that more would hardly be noticed.
    Point out to the American People how the Koch Brothers, the principals of Bain, and other members of the top 1% of the top 1% will have their taxes cut, while folks like me will have ours rise due to the elimination of things like my Mortgage Interest and PMI deductions, like taxing my Health Care benefit, like having my rate increased. Translation, Mr. President, is to stop playing "club rules" b-ball, and show them how guys like me grew up playing it behind chain-link fences!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • ajs3176

      Obama added 5 trillion to the defiict in 3 years. His latest budget proposal was so laughable it was voted down 0 – 414. Try again.

      April 2, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
      • 40acres

        No he didn't, try again.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:15 am |
  18. Ray E. (Georgia)

    Until the Senate takes a Budget seriously it is all moot. SO, the President needs to get the Senate to do something. At least the House, and the Republicians have taken the U.S. Constutition seriously. The Government is borrowing about 40 cents of every dollar they spend. About half of the people don't pay any Taxes now. But your buddy, Obanma wants the Providers to pay even more! Sorry it ain't gonna happen. Why do you think business resides in China???

    April 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • 40acres

      Sorry ray, you are wrong. The bottom 99% pay the VAST majority of state, local and payroll tax.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:18 am |
  19. zaggs

    Fact is once they learn the actual truth, people support the Ryan plan. But we'll get the usual lies from Obama, CNN and of course the darling Obamatons that spout such rubbish on this site. They'll scare seniors that Ryan wants to take your SS away, despite the fact the supposed "neutral" fact check sites debunked that claim. But yes lets keep with the Obama plan to keep spending on run up a massive debt, I mean its been working for Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland right?

    April 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
    • hugh briss

      That austerity had been working well for Greece right? herp a Derp! The Ryan plan is consistently the single most concentrated piece of legislative idiocy in contemporary times. Let's hack social welfare so we don't have to cut our defense budget which is 10 times bigger than the next largest. It serves only to exacerbate disparity which is the true reason governments fail. Read a book on occasion and turn off fox news.

      April 3, 2012 at 9:06 am |
  20. ghags17

    I guess Odumbo has to do something since his budget failed 421-0 LMFAO. Maybe Odumbo can take a how to balance a budget for dummies lesson

    April 2, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
  21. jwp

    Let me see if I have this straight...President who had his budget lose in a truly bi-partisan vote (414-0) is attacking a plan that actually garnered a majority of votes in the same body...bwahahahahahahaha!

    April 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  22. Steve in SoCal

    Let's face it: if you can't run on your record, lie, steal and cheat.

    As per TImothy Gietner's performance when asked by Congress about the deficit, short and long-term: "We don't have an answer for that. But we know we don't like yours."

    Now there's leadership baby !!

    Obama's budget in 2011: Senate voted 97-0 against.
    Obama's budget in 2012: House voted 414-0 against.

    But enough about my budget, let me demegoge yours. Now there's leadership baby.

    And as for the buffet rule: you could take the money from this idea for the next 100 years and it wouldn't fund Obama's yearly deficit for 4 months. Now there's leadership baby.

    Obama is a moron, stuck on stupid.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  23. semby

    For over 200 years; this country has survived on market based economy; now this President wants to change all of that. I don't think so!
    He's not King; how dare he.
    By the way; where's the budget the Dem Senate is to pass every year by April 15th. They haven't passed on in over 1000 days.
    Someone is an adult and someone is not.
    Too bad we have a President whose only concern is re-election. By the way; he will lose in a landslide.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • BADGUY

      semby – For 200 years, the Rich elite, have survived in our country..by screwing the bottom 99%. For most of us in the bottom 99% over the last 200 years, this IS NOT surviving!

      April 3, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  24. Jerubbaal

    Come on folks, haven't we seen this show before. When President Clinton was in the White House, the repubs scared the American public about the fiscal necessity to rein in the national debt. They convinced the public that the ballooning deficit under Reagan/H W Bush was a dem problem. Pres Clinton duly left office with a surplus. W then rang up record deficits w/o a peep from the repubs about fiscal discipline. Now that they want back in power, they are playing that same old 45 record, only we use cds now.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • ajs3176

      the clinton surplus is a myth. he deficit spent every year of his presidency. it is a matter of public record. the national debt has increased every year since WWII.

      April 2, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
      • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

        There is a difference between the national debt and the deficit. The deficit is the unfunded portion of Federal Spending (remember this – it is passed by both Houses of Congress usually 2 hours before the fiscal year ends). The National Debt is the amount of money we have to pay off based on all the deficits. By Clinton's final two years, we were not borrowing to meet the Federal Spending requirements, and the budget surplus was able to pay down some of the principal of the debt. Ryan's budget is somehow based on taking in more money by increasing the tax on the 95% of the country that only makes about 15% of the income earned, as well as decreasing non-defense discretionary spending, decreasing entitlements, like your parent's social security and medicare, increasing the Pentagon budget beyond what the DoD wants (in order to satisfy defense contractors in Red States), and providing tax cuts to the top 1% of income earners by taxing their "incomes" at the same rate as their investment returns (or at least those that are not buried in the Cayman Islands).

        April 2, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
      • Bob

        Sigh. You really need to get your news from some place other than Fox. Maybe get some info from an American source. Oh, didn't you realize that Fox News is completely foreign-owned? Its number two shareholder is Saudi prince. No wonder they were so gung-ho to have us go into Iraq (the Saudi's number one oil rival) and now want us to go into Iran (the Saudi's number two oil rival). Funny how Fox News never reported that all the 9/11 hijackers were in this country on Saudi-issued travel papers. But if you want to trust a Foreign-Owned "news" source, that's your right but ask yourself whose interests they serve.

        April 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
  25. bflat879

    How can the guy who can't even submit a budget that would pass, take on anyone. This guy is going to lose so bad in November it's going to have Democrats pining for the days of George McGovern and Jimmy Carter.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
  26. Michel

    This is the first President in history that has not had a budget in three years. The ones he has proposed have been voted down unanimously. Unserious president – and an asshat to boot.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • 40acres

      This is how it works.

      The Congressional Budget Resolution
      After receiving the President’s Budget Proposal, the House and Senate Budget Committees hold hearings in which officials from the administration are questioned about their budget requests. Once these hearings have been completed, the committees draft their own budget proposals for the fiscal year, and the full Senate and full House take up their respective versions of the budget. After each chamber of Congress has finalized a budget, a House-Senate conference committee reconciles the differences between the two versions of the bill. Because the Federal Budget is a concurrent congressional resolution, it does not go back to the President for his or her signature after it passes the House and Senate.

      Although Congress is supposed to approve a budget by April 15, it often does not happen this quickly. If Congress is unable to agree on a budget for the coming fiscal year, no new budget is adopted and the previous year’s budget, which includes provisions for the next five years, is used. (http://www.pta.org/3438.htm)

      April 3, 2012 at 8:32 am |
  27. david

    Research israels aparteid policies.

    Investigate AIPAC contributions to politicians.

    Israel is the leading cause of anti-semtism.


    Don't support pro zionist politicians.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Steveo

      How about you live somewhere surrounded by folk who want you off the planet and let me know your plan for survival!

      April 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • vdrummin

      Everyone attacks the Jews, that's why they are Gods choosen people – Jealous
      That's why they can be surrounded by enemies and they will never lose.....

      April 2, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
  28. James

    Don't take this the wrong way, but our company will be relocating our official location to Hong Kong this year. The 1/1/13 tax increases are the primary driver behind the move (or the risk thereof). We do construction work exclusively overseas (mostly in China) and have always paid US taxes on 100% of the taxable earnings to the US Treasury. That number will drop to 0% now (as long as it is not paid in dividends to US citizens) which is perfectly legal. You can of course argue "fairness" and the like all you wish to (or unpatriotic for that matter) but people who earn money from businesses are not irrational people. They will take all they can but at some point you just say forget it, it's not worth the bother. Good luck and let's hope the yuan keeps appreciating against the dollar (as if it will not anyway).

    April 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • C-Lo

      Thank you for the insight James. You posted the problem and result, what would be a proposed solution (for the country not your business, obviously). In other words, what would it take to re-patrionize your company to the US?

      April 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
  29. Mike Texoma

    The Ryan budget has absolutely nothing to do with reducing annual budget deficits or the national debt. What it has to do with is reducing taxes in the upper brackets and reducing the size and reach of government. If you do not like Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid you are going to love Ryan's Budget. Social Security and Medicare are bought and paid for, subject to some minor adjustments. Medicaid is an entitlement, but it is essential to the social safety net here in America. If you do not want the EPA regullating air polution, don't mind global warming, see no need to regulate commercial banks and investment banks, don't mind too big to fail, do not want the government making the skies safe for commercial aviation, or renewing the roads and bridges we ship our goods on, or regulating deep water drilling for oil and gas, or keeping our food and our drugs pure and safe, or evening out the educational playing field for all our kids, then you are going to love Ryan's budget. If you do not like discretionary spending, you are going to love the Ryan budget because it wrings discretionary spending out of the government.

    Ryan's budget will beat down any economic recovery under way if it is enacted, and leave America much more dependent upon foreign markets for economic growth at a time when we have meager manufacturing to sell into it. It is a formulla for disaster.

    To my way of thinking, this budget is not geared toward fiscal conservatives, it is geared toward fiscal radicals.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  30. Mark from Louisiana

    Hey let's just keep spending like obama wants, the entitlement programs will all be broke soon. I really think that's what obama wants, why should those old white folks who worked all their life get to collect social security when his voter base only gets food stamps.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • 40acres

      Imagine that, a person spouting racist comments from Louisiana.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:38 am |
  31. Eric

    The House Republican's budget is in essence, a $4.7 trillion dollar tax break for the wealthiest Americans, financed by the middle class.

    So what they're calling a balanced budget is really the demolition of every fail safe our country has for keeping white and blue collar professionals afloat and thriving, so we can sell the farm to the folks who keep getting richer by laying people off.

    The ugly truth behind Mitt Romney and the Republican agenda is simple. Crony Capitalism and Phony Populism.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • 3lutz3toe


      April 3, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  32. 2020

    sadly, this country becomes a 3rd world mentality. me, me, me ONLY. Ryan, sad you so blind seeing nothing but the 1%

    April 2, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
  33. Biotechdev

    The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama’s three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency. The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office. The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush’s last day in office, which coincided with President Obama’s first day. The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation’s Gross Domestic Product, the total value of goods and services. It doesn’t get any better, either. Obama has proposed a new budget for FY2013 that will add another $900 billion to the national debt under the most cheery, best-case scenarios imaginable, and likely will exceed the trillion-dollar mark for the fifth time in his presidency. In the budget projections released with that proposal, Knoller points out that Obama expects to leave office with a national debt of $20 trillion — which will mean that Obama himself would have nearly doubled the debt during his eight years in office, adding $9.34 trillion for an increase of 87%. The solution for out-of-control deficit spending will have to come from Congress, since this President consistently refuses to take responsibility for it. Rep. Paul Ryan’s new budget, which at least takes a large step in the right direction:
    On Spending – The Path to Prosperity spends $3.53 Trillion in FY 2013, a number that grows to $4.88 Trillion by the end of the decade. It restores full military funding to pre-Budget Control Act sequestration levels, off-setting those dollars elsewhere and preventing a harmful gutting of our national defense. It reduces spending by $5 Trillion over the next ten years, compared to Obama’s budget. It restores federal spending to the historical norm of 20 percent of GDP by 2015.
    On Deficits – Ryan’s blueprint reduces budget deficits by $3 Trillion over the coming decade, relative to Obama’s budget. Although it doesn’t happen immediately, and unlike Obama’s plan, this budget balances. Within the current decade window, it comes closest to primary balance by achieving a $166 Billion annual deficit in 2018 (to put that into perspective, 2010′s deficit under this president was $1.6 Trillion). The closest Obama’s budget comes to primary balance is a $617 Billion shortfall in 2017, which is still roughly double the size of President Bush’s average deficit.
    On Debt – Unlike President Obama’s unflinching debt express, the GOP budget’s lowers spending and enacts crucial reforms to chart a more sustainable debt course, allowing the United States to gradually begin paying down the national debt. The plan would retire the publicly-held debt by the 2050′s. Gross debt reached 100 percent of US GDP this year, an alarming tipping point — yet Obama’s new budget offers ever higher debt in perpetuity[.]
    Be sure to read it all. Ryan’s plan takes the right approach, but doesn’t go far enough. It’s not sufficient any longer to slow the rate at which we add to the national debt; we have to start subtracting from it. Now that we have reached the Greece threshold of debt at 100% of our GDP, we can’t afford to keep adding to it. Unfortunately for Ryan — who certainly understands the problem — he doesn’t have enough people in Washington that will show the necessary leadership to get that kind of approached passed and signed into law. Until voters get serious and toss Obama and other unserious spenders out of office, Ryan can’t do any better than incremental improvements, which I’ll take over the alternatives offered at the moment.

    April 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
    • weequahic68

      Why is it when one talks about the deficit Bush left, it does not also account for the billions in spending for two wars which he kept off the books. The only resson Obamas is higher is that he actually put them on the books.

      April 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • J

      Your numbers are a little off. There is no way the our debt has gotten that high in four years. Oh, wait, you are right. Obama did sign the budget that was left over from the Bush administration (as do most incoming Presidents) and those numbers are added to his spending. And you also forget one thing, Bush came into office with a HUGE surplus. Ask yourself what happened to that.

      April 2, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • arewefree

      Bio, you lost me in the first sentence. If the debt is 15 trillion and Obama added about 5 where did the other 10 come from?

      April 2, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • 40acres

      Nice try Bio. Your numbers are fairly accurate but your understanding of the budget year is not. You say:

      "The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush’s last day in office, which coincided with President Obama’s first day."

      which is true....but either you do not understand that the national debt in November of 2009 which was 11.89 trillion, was attributable to Bush's last budget, or you do understand and are just trying to spin. Either way, you are wrong. Bush added 6.08 trillion to the national debt and Obama has added an additional 3.67 trillion.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:52 am |
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      You're insane! The GOP's budget doesn't lower anything because the GOP budget and economic policies led to the worst economic crisis in American history! Secondly, while you scrutinize President Obama's spending, let me remind you that the Afghan war and illegitimate Iraqi wars combine account for six (6) trillion dollars of our deficit! And by the projected end of the Afghan war, that deficit is projected to reach 7 trillion dollars! So which party is fiscally irresponsible?

      Furthermore, for you brainwashed rightwingers who say President Obama has spent more than GWB, let me remind you people that the 787 Billion Stimulus Package passed by the Obama administration was passed out of NECESSITY to stabilize the economy, to keep small and large businesses affected by the economic crisis AFLOAT and to provide much needed aid to help each respective state with infracture and much needed social programs to help unemployed and struggling Americans get back on their feet! Or to put it another way, let's say that if there wasn't an economic crisis to begin with, then there wouldn't have been a stimulus bill to begin with! Furthermore, when you're an incoming President who inherits two wars and an economic crisis, you have to spend money to speed up the wars to bring them to an end on one hand, and you have to spend money to stabilize and improve the economy! You really want to blame someone? Then go blame GWB and the GOP because they are responsible for our inflated national deficit!

      April 3, 2012 at 8:55 am |
  34. Drew

    I don't think Americans get it. Raise taxes. C'mon, raise taxes on everyone by the same increment 3 or 4 percent. I will gladly pay 3 or 4 percent more if everyone else does. This country has been pampered into believing that taxes are bad and I say BS how else can you raise money and pay debts? Creating jobs works too but we all know how well that is going, oh yeah, there are more jobs being created but not the kind of jobs that will stoke the fires of the economy. Americans have paid higher taxes in the past before the Republicans decided that we should some how go back to the 1700's. Get real America, it's time to pony up, and especially you overly wealthy who are sitting on your money like eggs that will hatch.

    April 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
  35. Republicans are Neanderthals

    There will be no budget this year. It's all about posturing. Wait till the lame duck session when Congress actually has to do something to keep the government operating.

    April 2, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
  36. david

    It really doesn't matter what Rep Paul Ryan says or does. he doesn't have a clue of what his job is right along with the brainless followers in the GOP. this country has been an almost balanced two party system for a very long time and even after the next election it most likely will not change very much. Rep Paul Ryans job is to work hard on new bills that at least have a little chance of passing the senate as well as the presidents desk! to spend the tax payers money by paying house members and their costly staffs to pass bills that only put you in front of the press and news networks is a waste of time. the tea party and its followers are the biggest joke ever played on the tax payers in this country. i can count on one hand the important things that the tea party has done the last two years in office and still have fingures left to count on! its clear to me and most likely clear to the voters were the big hold up is when it comes to having a goverment that at least functions.

    April 2, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
  37. jim

    Citizens of greece opposed cuts to entitlement programs too and we see where that got them. It's simple math, and the Democrats refuse to do it. Republicans have the courage to do what is needed, even if it is unpopular.

    April 2, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
    • J

      No they don't! They have had numerous chances to cut entitlement programs but they (democrats and repubs) have been stealing from them for ages. How do you think we funded the war in Iraq? We diverted funds from those programs. Heck, republicans expanded entitlement programs and now want to cut them. That's fine, do some cuts but don't be afraid to raise taxes.

      April 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • arewefree

      It may be simple math if 2+2=13. The oil companies have taken over a trillion dollars from us since Bush/Cheney were elected. Why do we subsidise them? The list goes on. Fact is, it is a matter of prioroties and values. If the Republicans that took trillions of dollars from our economy during Bush/Cheney; would put that money to work in America our financial situation wouldn't be so daunting in a thriving economy. It is not courage they show; it is their true colors. The Republican party has traditionally been the party that put the interest of big money and corporations above that of the citizen. We used to call them 'carpetbaggers'. The Democratic Party has always been the party that put the interest of the citizen first.

      April 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  38. joe

    Why is it that there are no term limted on rep and dem.. i know i dont want some 75yr old person ..maken a dession on weather a program to help the people or how to defend this nation? oh

    April 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
  39. Rick from Florida.

    Hey whats a few trillion among friends...all this chatter about bugets and deficit reduction only became the subject in 2009. Really! You repubs allow our then President to run amock with no checks and balance, as long as your money wasnt effected. Now that your goose is cooked for backing him and all his misques.....you dont want to pay. are you kidding me. Your party your debt your bill...i just taken along for the ride. But I voted for the end of all of that crap. I voted for someone to take issue what needed checked and balanced. I will continue again to vote for checks and balance. Not my way or sleep under the freeway. An intellenct man is in our White House who cares even about the very people who would ridicule him and see harm to him. Its amazing how the very people who needs someone to champion there causes, would rather waste there votes for men who could care less of them and have proved it! As Americans we have the ability to vote our statesmen and women in and out. Instead of slinging mud at each other we should be working together to find solutions to real US problems. I for one like the quote someone wrote earlier. I admire the chilvery of this President. If he can take the time and effort to care about someone who doesnt give a crap about me. I grow a pair and do the right thing till it hurts. I help. One thing this President has done is get people involved...now all we have to do is use our involvment for the good of counrty. Later

    April 2, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
  40. Carol100

    If the GOP is to the "clowns" party then the liberal democrats are the "jokers" party... their vision that America is a socialist hand me down society will retain America's greatness in the world is a joke. This is why Obama must be stopped in his tracks 2012.

    April 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
  41. Ade

    Joe, I think you want an age limit, not a term limit. With simply term limits, even a younger person can be banded from re-election

    April 2, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
  42. BADGUY

    Ryan's plan is designed to crush the middle class and poor and bring about "Banana Republicanism". Absolutely, NO COMPROMISE for this tax program designed "of the Rich, By the Rich, FOR the Rich"!

    April 2, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
  43. Reasonable

    The problems with both plans is right now revenue collection is at 14% of GDP and debt for just this fiscal year is at 24% of GDP. This is the problem with the Ryan plan. We can not close the gap with just budge cuts. We need a combine approach of revenue increase, involving a tax system overhaul and budget restraints. A reduction in income tax, corporate tax, and capital gains tax, and adding an value added tax and removing all exemption from the tax code while doing appropriate cut backs in all government programs including defense, healthcare, social security, and safety nets, and removing subsidies to both farmers and oil businesses would be a bipartisan approach for this. Unfortunately since our congress can't agree on anything nothing gets done and the problem only worsens.

    April 2, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
  44. jerry

    well lets see...the middle east is a mess, Russia is pushing obama around again, the price of oil through the roof, obama's health care law about to go in the trash, unprecedented unemployment, and and and...so the fraud-in-chief will throw eggs at Ryans budged proposal....sounds about right and what one should expect.

    April 2, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
  45. Kahless

    If Ryan was truly interested in balancing the budget there would be no tax cuts, only spending cuts or tax increasses. This points out that his true motivation is to reduce taxes on the wealthy and pay for that buy reducing benefits to seniors and raising taxes on the middle class. I can't help but wonder how the elimination of tax brackets affects which income level the most. By eliminating the 15% rate which is where I would guess that most people are at, you force those people into either the 10% rate or the 25% rate. There are far fewer tax payers in the rates currently above 25%. So those individuals get a cut of 10 or more percent. What about those current 15% payers that will end up with at least some income in the 25% bracket?

    April 2, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
  46. chris

    i can't wait to hear Obama claim that a lower deficit is some how attacking the middle class, when in fact the middle class will be bearing the brunt of the load of Obama's uncontrollable spending and the growing deficit. wake up liberal fools.

    April 2, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  47. Geoffrey

    Republicans are evil. That's all there is to it. They are spawns of satan and are godless. How else can you explain their platform?

    April 3, 2012 at 1:42 am |
  48. Sponge-Bob

    Obama's budget has went down in flames without receiving even one vote from his own party yet he still thinks he's a credible accountant?

    April 3, 2012 at 4:19 am |
    • Reasonable

      Once again look who sponsored the bill for the supposed obama budget plan. Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) was the one who sponsored the bill. "Using Obama's top-line spending and revenue numbers as a budget proposal, without any specifics." So folks it was a republican sponsored budget not Obama's. Hence just a political ploy and not a real vote. Please once again state facts and complete facts before making yourself look stupid.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:13 am |
  49. Stonesrule

    So we're supposed to seriously consider budget criticsism from a president who has never prepared a real budget during his presidency and added record TRILLIONS to an already out of control deficit? For that matter, we are supposed to seriously consider a constitutional law professor who apparently presents an unconstitutional healthcare law that no one has read to the US Supreme Court?! Please.....Obama "supporters" just look silly at this point.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:31 am |
  50. Stonesrule

    Why is there no CNN coverage on the 2008 Democratic election fraud taking place in Indiana and elsewhere? If it were Republicans involved, you can be sure it would be plastered everywhere.....Dems are liars and cheats that will do or say anything for political gain. The hypocrisy is absolutely stunning.

    April 3, 2012 at 5:54 am |
  51. Jerry

    I only have two questions: Where is this clueless/divisive president's budget plan?! Almost four years and no budget plan. Oh well...

    Now he's threatening the Supreme Court?! Uhh. They should be so afraid. If they don't tow the line, he is going to seek his lap dogs on them (Hillary, Pelosi, Holder Michelle, Kerry, etc., etc., etc.) Excepting his "pallies: Kagan and Sotomayor, of course. Either you bow to him or you are toast!!!

    This president is beyond shameless. I have a second question: How can the women of America be swooning over this angry man?! Don't women realize they are contributing to the destruction of our beloved America?! Oh well...

    April 3, 2012 at 6:34 am |
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      Where's the president's plan? Well, during the President's State of the Union Address earlier this year he introduced a budget plan that would reduce the national deficit and subsequently create much needed American jobs. But unfortunately, before the President could deliver his address some of the Republicans and Tea Partiers announced in advance that they were going to boycott the President's address because they said it won't work! So how do they know what's in the President's budget if they failed to show up or read what's in it? And when you're an elected official and your constituents are unemployed and struggling and the President addresses how congress could improve the economy, do you turn your backs on your constituents by boycotting the President's address? Is that what the rightwingers were elected to office to do? To walk out on the American people especially when they need your leadership the most?

      Reading some of the earlier posts, I'm literally appalled by how so many of you people are easily manipulated and misled by the conservative right! So you like Mr. Ryan's budget plan but you despise the President's plan? Well, I have a question for you people who continue to be blinded and brainwashed by the rightwing propaganda! Are you confortable with the GOP's budget plan even when that plan encompasses the very same failed and misguided economic policies that have led to our economic downfall? Let's face it, the GOP wants you people to continue being brainwashed simply because even while millions of Americans are struggling to make ends meet, the GOP wants you to believe there's a safety net! Well, just imagine that!

      Obama/Biden 2012!

      April 3, 2012 at 8:19 am |
  52. larry

    has anyone else noticed lately that its more difficult to log in, makes you wonder if main stream media is tired of reading all these negative blogs against obama, obama, you truley are a pathetic person, every primary, you do something to steal there show, now your influencing the justices, you are so crooked, makes me sick that your our president

    April 3, 2012 at 7:16 am |
  53. RinosRwinos

    More nonsense form the Republicons. Balancing the budget on the back of the middle class while keeping welfare for the 1% through tax breaks. I would not expect any less from Ryan and the other Koch cronies.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:24 am |
  54. eagerwatcher

    Quite funny really since Obama's budget got rejected unanimously for the second year in a row!

    414 to 0 !!!

    He's really quite clueless and just had not only the worst week of his presidency but probably the worst week of any president's presidency.

    In one week, Obama got caught whispering promises to our enemy, incited a race war, raised serious questions about his understanding of the Constitution, and then got smacked down over his proposed budget that was so wildly reckless that even Democrats in Congress could not support it.

    ourchangingglobe dot com/obama-and-the-msm

    Replace the word dot with a . and remove the two spaces.

    Only because a captive audience is preferred to links.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:10 am |
  55. eagerwatcher

    Quite funny really since Obama's budget just lost unanimously for the second year in a row.

    414 to 0

    He's really quite clueless and just had not only the worst week of his presidency but probably the worst week of any president's presidency.

    In one week, Obama got caught whispering promises to our enemy, incited a race war, raised serious questions about his understanding of the Constitution, and then got smacked down over his proposed budget that was so wildly reckless that even Democrats in Congress could not support it.

    ourchangingglobe dot com/obama-and-the-msm

    Replace the word dot with a . and remove the two spaces.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:13 am |
  56. Gloria

    Obama is playing the old 'rope-a-dope'. Hide, don't be seen, put Michelle out as much as possible, peek out between your gloves just enough to show you are there and then cover back up. Clearly we, citizens, reward the playing of poilitics rather than presiding over a country. I do not see any light between him and Bush...it is a continuation of bad. The majority of us are observers at a tennis game watching the fringe right and left hit the ball back and fourth and we are disgusted but then we vote and elect what the fringe puts before us. We bring it upon ourselves and then cry about it.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:33 am |
  57. steve

    When has Obama produced a budget? Never!!

    April 3, 2012 at 8:42 am |
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      When has Obama approved a budget, never you say?

      Then why has the economy approved? Why has the unemployment rate been reduced significantly? And how do you explain the fact that since passage of the Stimulus Act, millions of unemployed and struggling Americans have returned to work? And how do you explain the fact that thousands of small and large businesses have stayed afload and subsequently resurfaced or been established since passage of the Stimulus Act? Or perhaps President Obama doesn't need to pass a Republican budget simply because Mitt Romney has provided a safety net? So pathetic!

      April 3, 2012 at 9:03 am |
    • 40acres

      2013 United States federal budget – $3.8 trillion (submitted 2012 by President Obama)
      2012 United States federal budget – $3.7 trillion (submitted 2011 by President Obama)
      2011 United States federal budget – $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)
      2010 United States federal budget – $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

      April 3, 2012 at 9:12 am |
  58. Terry - Indiana

    I love it, the GOP House Budget eliminates Medicare. Old people will get a coupon book for medical services, and pay three or four times more for a downgraded services plan. Getting old sort of sucks, unless you are a wealthy Republican.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:46 am |
  59. The_Mick

    Without question the GOP Budget was based on the GOP's platform desires, not what they'd actually do if they controlled Congress and the White House. They knew it won't be passed. Obama, on the other hand, has to submit a budget that will actually run the country and stimulate the economy. The GOP apparently hopes their budget will win them votes. Of course, raising the Middle Class's taxes while reducing the wealthy's taxes by another 28% doesn't endear them to me!

    April 3, 2012 at 8:58 am |
  60. billy

    I see ryans budget and the house vote 414 to zero. It would have been nice to see Obamas budget. I just want what is good for the country, that's it! JUST WHATS GOOD AND RIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY! right now no one is doing that...no of us as American citizens should praise whats going on right now rep or dem its just bad.

    April 3, 2012 at 9:19 am |
  61. dave

    Felony charges were filed Monday against four St. Joseph County Indiana Democratic officials and deputies as part of a multiple-felony case involving the alleged forging of Democratic presidential primary petitions in the 2008 election. This is against democrat OFFICIALS and DEPUTIES, not just some low level volunteers; yet not a news worthy story on CNN?

    April 3, 2012 at 9:37 am |
  62. Brdfrd

    Ryan the guy who looks like Pee-wee herman talks about out US generals. And what I cant believe the house recently passed his bill. His bill is a disaster to senior citizens. Ryan is a joke, and Romney is nothing but a Flip-Flopper...

    April 3, 2012 at 9:49 am |




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  65. joebreen1

    Oh My God! I can't believe all of the people who drink the juice here. first of all, I watch all the news agencies, CNN, MSNBC, FOV and CBS (To name a few). Mary, get your figures straight, two weeks ago the CBO released debt figures under Obama and Bush, and at that time Obama had ammassed more debt in 3 years then Bush did in 8.

    I am no fan of Bush, but come on, don't blame others for having partisan blinders on while you seem to have the same blindness. Fact is, the President's Budget was a joke. Taxing is not the answer alone. To that end neither is Ryans budget the answer. As a country, we have to wstop being the "MEMEMEME country. I see people in the news (Nancy Pelosi's daughter) showing people brag about getting "Obama Bucks". I truly shutter to think about the debt load we are putting on our kids......And the discussion comes to not the debt, but free contraception to college students.......Grow up, you all are smarter to fall for crap like that.

    So, fact is the Senate has not passed a buget in over 3 years.....They cant blame that on Repubs since they held the majority for 2 of those years. Isnt that their job?

    Mary, as far as "all the jobs bills the President has proposed"? Fact is, the first one was last October, and wasn't even a bill. It was another road map for a stimulus, asking for another 490 billion in taxpayer funds. Geez, when does it ever end!

    I think EVERYONE should pay more tax. Tax the rich...sure....but even if you tax the rich at 100%, you still fall short by 90%. Read up guys! to attack the debt, thinngs have to be cut. Believe me, I am 52 years old and do not want my Social Security cut or delayed. But the fact is WE HAVE NO MONEY. Repub or democrat, we need people to make some decisions. to that end, I applaud Paul Ryan in his efforts to get out of debt. While I hate to see cuts, we cant tax our way into a surplus.....Fact is we spend way too much.

    I read about the $500,000 date Obama took his wife on to go to a broadway show, and the $28,000 sundress we the tax payers put out so Michelle could look nice on her lavish vacations. While it may be true that other presidents have spent and wasted money, the fact is many people are out of work and hurtng! Acting like royalty is insulting to me!

    As far as gas.......come on! If you hate war then you should be all for getting as much energy here in North America as possible. Fact is, we wouldnt be in Kuwait, and Iraq if it were not for oil. Right now it is in our national interest. Stop blaming the oil companies. Do your homework guys! Oil companies make 8-10 cents per gallon in profit. The US and State governments tack on an additional 60-80 cents in taxes (for doing nothing), and then call the oil companies greedy! As an independant, seems upside down to me!

    I am not into Romney, but when I hear Obama blatenly state that he wants to "Double Down" on technologies unproven to date, it sounds like a desperate gambler looking to break even. The presidnet states the "all of the above" policy for going after oil, yet his agencies have blocked all new permits for drilling on public land, and no permits for coal mines. That is not all of the above. I voted for Obama and sadly think it is time for him to hit the road.

    April 3, 2012 at 10:18 am |
  66. YoYall

    About time some of these clowns took some hits. They've been taking free shots at the president for months now. You'd expect a party with months of uninterrupted TV coverage, their mugs constantly on the screen, would finally gain some image recognition... but they can only prove how stupid, irrational and irrelevant they are.

    April 3, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • mike58

      Obama is easy to take down, he has no clue what he's doing even the members of his own party are backing away from him

      April 3, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
  67. John

    At least the Republican controlled House has passed a budget.....what have the Dem's done for the last three years regarding a budget? Nothing!!

    April 3, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • Manny

      Why can't Republicans and Democrats work together to solve country's problems. Passing budget with Republicans vote is not going to bring the deficit down.Sameis true for senatenot having budget. Bush spent all the money and why blame Obama doing the same thing. Republicans had 8 years. They did not do anything to solve energy problems. We have been hearing since Carter administration about the energy. Has any thing done? The only viable solution can be found by both parties working together. May be red and blue America should separate into two countries

      April 3, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      At least President Obama has stabilized the economic crisis he inherited, fixed the economy and created millions of American jobs and saved the Auto industry that's now thriving! So what has the teabag house and the gop done for America lately?

      April 3, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  68. Bobbi

    Be an independant. Educate yourself to the facts and form your own opinions. Don't be a drone who is told what to think and feel. Debate about where to take America is good is shows people care but debates still need to be civilized and structured. Calling someone names and insulting them because their opinion is different is something children in the playground do at school. America has real problems that will require tough choices on both sides because neither side has it completely correct. Again think, rationalize without attacking the other sides point of view. I find it incredibly ignorant that in a country that touts freedom of speech as a founding principle that people are so polarized. As long as what you say is the same as what I say your opinion matters otherwise you need to shut up because you are a socialist, communist etc. etc.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:33 am |
  69. KCRICK

    Sure he will – because all he knows is to criticize – he cannot work with anyone.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  70. mike58

    Romney it's time to start talking FACTS let Obama talk opinions

    April 3, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
  71. ourjoe

    we have a spending problem in this country! even if you took everything from the 8200 taxpayers that made over 10 million would that fix the spending problem of a country of 330,000,000 people? my father just kept borrowing saying he would worry about it down the road. is harmony with Greece now!!! wake up America you cannot tax your way out of this!

    April 3, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  72. mike58

    Harry Reid must go come on Nevada wake up and vote him out

    April 3, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
  73. 3lutz3toe

    I’m always amazed when I see average folks supporting GOP! Get a clue folks. Almost every bill and budget that the GOP has ever come up w/ are for the fat cats and measly if anything left over for the average income earners!


    Go read that book by Thomas Frank called What's The Matter With Kansas! (It traces how the GOP propaganda machine slowly persuaded solid Blue collar Dems to voting GOP, against their own interests in the name of the big 3! You know the ones Obama named!)

    I also want to point out, had the country fallen for the Privatizing Social Security crap, we would be seeing many Seniors out on the STREET! (But of course Wall Street would have made Billions w/ all of the mone dumping into risky stocks!)

    April 3, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
  74. Pritch

    What would really be interesting is if Obama would have a legitimate budget plan. It's easy to criticize someone else's work, but when you have nothing of your own to show, then just be quiet about it.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
  75. Pritch

    I see several posts here like badguy and bob, that just have an emotional response. We get it, you don't like Republicans, but your emotional rants do not serve anyone well. Just state some facts or excuse yourself from the discussion. I am tired of the Republicans are for the rich nonsense. Republicans understand that business's create jobs. Democrats seem to not grasp that simple concept. Their brains are so twisted and distorted that they don't understand that. That is the real issue.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • 3lutz3toe

      Are you kidding me? If that's the case, why haven't the GOP pushed for a tax code that would prevent all of these Corporations shipping jobs overseas and tax shelters? What about those Corporations that don't pay a cent in tax!

      Don't even bring up Reagan's TRICKLE ME DOWN TO NOTHING!

      April 3, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
      • Steveo

        Good point! I did wish the GOP did something with the tax code but they did nothing, just like Pelosi and Rangle did nothing! You are free to blame one party over another but you would only be half correct. The truth is BOTH parties have failed!

        April 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • arewefree

      Obviously you can't see the forest for the trees. Republicans have always been the party of big business and big money, it didn't just start recently! recent events: Holding tax relief for millions hostage to special favors for the oil companies, fighting ACA to protect insurance companies and pharma, deregulating necessities and loosing corporate greed on Americans,Ryan budget destroying middle class and giving tax breaks to the rich. DUH!

      April 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
      • Steveo

        Once again, 1/2 correct. Who do you think have attended Obama's $35K a plate diners? The Dems pander to the rich as well! I guess you never heard of George Soros?

        April 3, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  76. Rosco

    Please lets gets this deuce bag outta the oval office ASAP. Only the free-loading liberals and those with their hand out for other people's money will vore for him, but unfortunately that is about half the population. Where is Darwin when you need him?

    April 3, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • arewefree

      Spoken like a true brain dead douche bag ditto head.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  77. zigge

    "Obama to hit Ryan’s budget plan" That ignorant comment sounds typical comming from deadbeat obama and his super corrupt administration that has no budget plan . Loser obama is the most corrupt,arrogant and incompetent person that's ever been in the white house.

    April 3, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • arewefree

      THe Obama budget plan makes sense, it is the right path for our country. It was never voted on. A version prepared by Republicans was force voted. You obviously watch too much fox news. Obviously you are 15 years old or have no mental capacity. If you think Obama is more corrupt and incompetent than Bush/Cheney; you have a severe mental disorder

      April 3, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  78. daris

    I really don't think you people would talk about the social program have a clue who pays for these program the women and men who worked. It's nothing that they're getting for free or from you just because it's mandated that you pay taxes.

    April 3, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
  79. Colt Defender

    I thought all you Liberals should watch this video:


    April 3, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
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    April 4, 2012 at 12:07 pm |

    The Romney – Ryan plan dies in the Senate like last year. No right wing social engineering will be tolerated by the American people. Obama/Biden 2012!

    April 9, 2012 at 2:16 pm |