May 25th, 2012
01:00 AM ET
Obama compares Romney's rhetoric to ‘cow pie of distortion’ (CNN) - President Barack Obama returned to the politically-important state of Iowa on Thursday for the third time this year for a mixture of official and campaign business. But in all cases, he took the opportunity to attack his presumed opponent. In remarks to supporters at a grassroots event at the Iowa State Fairgrounds, Obama slammed Republican candidate Mitt Romney for his claim in a speech last week that the debt is sweeping across the country like a “prairie fire.” "He left out some facts. His speech was more like a cow pie of distortion. I don't know whose record he twisted the most: mine or his," the president said. Romney's campaign immediately responded by saying Obama had “not come close” to keeping his financial promises. "A president who broke his promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term has no standing when it comes to fiscal responsibility," Romney's spokesman Ryan Williams said in a statement. The president also slammed Romney's financial experience, saying his tenure as CEO of the private equity firm, Bain Capital, doesn't qualify him to be president. "The main goal of a financial firm like Gov. Romney's is not to create jobs.... Their main goal is to create wealth for themselves and their investors," Obama told a crowd of nearly 2000 on the fairgrounds. "Now that may be the job of someone who's engaged in corporate buyouts. That's fine. But that's not the job of a president. That's not the president's job. There may be value for that kind of experience but it's not in the White House." Obama also attacked Romney's comments from his visit to the same fairgrounds last August when he said "corporations are people." "We believe that risk takers and investors should be rewarded ... . But we also believe that everybody should have opportunity," he said. "We think everybody who makes the economy more productive should benefit. Harder work doesn't lead to higher income ... You can't solve that problem if you can't even see that it's a problem." The message was a continuation of his earlier speech at a clean energy manufacturer in nearby Newton, Iowa. Without referring to Romney by name, the president criticized Republicans for their economic policies. "Either they say they don't want to do anything at all, or they don't want to do it before the election, or they want to double down on some of the policies that didn't work and helped to get us into this mess in the first place... when you hear somebody say we should cut more taxes... When you hear people say that we should cut back more on the rules we put in place for banks and financial institutions to avoid another taxpayer bailout - well, we tried that... When people say that we should just wait until the housing market hits bottom and hope that it comes back, hope for the best - well, that's not an answer for people. That doesn't make sense," a reference by the president to Mitt Romney's remarks late last year. Trying to sell his "To-Do list" for Congress, his first stop was at TPI Composites, which makes wind blades for turbines, located about 35 minutes outside of Des Moines. Obama visited Newton early in his presidency to unveil his energy policy. On Thursday, he returned to urge Congress to extend tax credits for companies that make clean energy. "I'm here today because, as much progress as we've made, that progress is in jeopardy. If Congress doesn't act, those tax credits that I mentioned - the ones that helped build up the wind industry, the ones that helped to bring all these jobs to Newton, those tax credits will expire," the president said. "If Congress doesn't act, companies like this one will take a hit. Jobs will be lost. That's not a guess, that's a fact. We can't let that happen." The president's remarks came after touring the TPI Composites facility and seeing how glass is molded into fiberglass for the wind blades. The White House touts the company as a success story of using the federal Production Tax Credit by creating jobs in clean energy technologies. The plant was built in 2008 and replaced a Maytag factory, a major employer in the city of nearly 16,000 people. Almost 2,000 people lost their jobs in 2006 when Whirlpool bought out Maytag and closed the factory. |
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Photo Voltaic Solar systems work. My electric bill was nearly $500.00 before we bought Photo Voltaic Solar panels where the panels were installed on our roof of our house. Our electric bill is now $35.00. If this is not a savings what is. Clean energy from the sun. If people don't believe me I have invoices from the electric company. The price you pay for the system you can get credits when you file your taxes from state as well a federal. Another idea that President Obama was speaking the truth. At least the President is willing to take risks and find better ways of fueling our country. Republicans are so old fashion. Oil is not the only way we can create electricity. The sun is more powerful than oil and it is free.
Obama is the true Cow Pie of Distortion. Whenever Obama speaks, he's generally full of crap.
Romney is a more qualified leader than Obama.
If you need government tax credits to justify a cost, then the cost really isn't justified. You are simply taking money from taxpayers to pay for your "savings." Taxes used to compel specific action creates distortion and inefficiency. Capital gains, interest on housing, loopholes for big industries all create bubbles inefficiencies and have created entire industries of accountants and tax lawyers that do nothing to contribute to the production of goods in our economy.
Thanks for the spammy post.
First, solar panels have been around long before Obama was president. He has nothing to do with its technology. Second, the cost of the panels doesn't even pay for itself. Before you recoup your investment, they will need to be replaced.
If you are adding panels to help the environment, great. As an investment, not so good.... kind of a cow pie.
I go door to door for an energy company which relies on solar panels to save the customer money. I see conservatives all the time, they have been brainwashed by their corporate constituency to believe solar is evil. Its comical to see their distaste when i mention solar, and even more comical when I know their neighbor will probably put solar panels on their house even if they do not. Solar is a great deal, not only for the environment but also to save a lot of money. Conservatives are removing themselves from the American recovery. They refuse to save money, they refuse to invest in America, I really don't know why they just don't move away so America can be the greatest country in the world once more.
Solar panels don't even pay for themselves. You pay a lot up front and then lower your bills. By the time you start recouping your investment, the panels need to be replaced. My parents have them.
Also, The Denver Art Museum is saving over 5% on their energy bills. They will recoup their panel investment in 100 years! (unfortunately, the panels on last 20 years).
Solar panels DO WORK...that is true. The problem is RETUN ON INVESTMENT. Just as with everything else, they advertise their efficiency in BEST CASE SCENARIO terms. What they don't tell you is that EVERY YEAR that they are in use, they lose some of their effeciency, so you have to use more and more of the grid power year after year. They are also EXPENSIVE to buy...even with taxpayer dollars giving you SOME credits. When you do the math of initial cost vs yearly savings and the usual 15 year durability then AT BEST you LOSE a couple of thousand dollars. Speaking of being "green", what do you do with them when they go bad...throw them away??? How much energy goes into MAKING them...it's a very intensive process. I am both FOR AND GAINST solar panels...when they become more cost effective per kilowatt then I will buy some.
I agree but I don't have the $20,000 to buy it. No one in the lower middle class does. That's why I'm stuck with my 10 mpg car too. Obama doesn't care about the lower middle class, we subsidize the Earned Income Credit class, who end up better off than we are because they get all the govt programs- food stamps, housing assistance, free cell phones, EIC, etc. We work, are in debt, can't afford gas, food, medical or college for our kid.
Have you tried solar water heaters? those will also reduce your costs even further.
You have to be from California because I just had solar panels quoted for my house in Ky. The closest contractor was California. They would not even quote putting panels on my entire house (too big). For 1/2 my house and reducing my electric bills by 30-40%, after gov. rebates cost was $78,950.00. They suggested I treat it like a 40 year mortgage!! I called a windmill company. The cost was much more reasonable 8,000.00 if the neighborhood association approved the 150' tower. Until they found that where I live my average consistent wind speed was too low for it to work. NOT VIABLE YET!!!!
I think you are mistaken about your claim of $79k for a Solar Panel System. I live in Georgia.I have had 2 surveys conducted and estimates given to me to convert my home entirely to solar. This would take 30 solar panels arranged both on my roof and on the ground on "racks". Both estimates were under $35k. With the various incentives both state and federal, It would cost me at just about $20k out of pocket.
If Romney is elected, it won't be viable "ever..."
Do a little more research on the web, Texas has quite a few installers and I'm sure Florida does.
If you are handy (it's not that hard.) you can do it your self and do it for about 6 to 8 thousand with the transformers attached to the panels themselves. I think you information is a few years out of date.
Perhaps you should start overpaying for these great solutions now Cindy. Maybe some of these companies will stop going bankrupt on the taxpayers dime and you can take the lead in the ideologically driven green energy agenda.
The Solar Constant says there is no way Solar Voltaic cells work on any scale larger than a grade school science Fair.
I live in central Maryland. There were four local contractors; they system I had installed yields 15 kwh, and fully powers my geothermal climate control system, lights, stoves, etc. It pays for itself in about 6 years.
Bull. There are entire companies that have converted to solar systems in a lot of places. Retail chains including Wal-Mart Stores, Kohl’s, Safeway and Whole Foods Market have installed solar panels on roofs of their stores to generate electricity on a large scale. Do you have any facts or just nonsense to post?
BS. As a point of reference, I was going to outfit a rowhome in Baltimore's Federal Hill (great urban neighborhood by the way) for $27k. It only took up 2/3 of the roof and would provide enough power to not only power the home but also sell energy BACK to the grid. I ended up moving to Northern VA instead.
People need to actually call a solar installation company and find out for themselves, but for some reason they don't. I'm moving within the next two years and I'm outfitting that home with a solar system. A home that produces it's own energy sells instantly. Who WOULDN'T buy a home with no electrical bill? CALL YOUR LOCAL SOLAR INSTALLATION COMPANY AND EDUCATE YOURSELF.
You mean like the 550 megawatt project in Iowa. The one that will employ 500 people during construction, that kind of science project
Mike,
I have called.....several installers. You either have the most unique situation ever or are relying on some subsidy, or just plain bs. I'm sure they would love the advertising. Please give us the name of the installer, as I am serious in pursuing it for my house. BTW....I am not a republican. But the facts are the facts.
Naaa, I can put 8, 230 watters on my house with attached transformers for 4 grand ( after re-bates from state and feds). Each one creating 30 Kw monthly on avg. I only use around 250Kw to 300 avg. a month , so that puts me down to next to nothin.
If I get a few thousand together (that I can use) I would do it.
You obviously don't have a lick of sense about this at all.
webbervillesolar.com
Mike's point of reference is B.S. purely!!! Notice he did not "install" his miracle 27k solar he moved....and also notice he has no proof of what the actual cost was in total (a hell of a lot more than 27 k unless he lives in a mobile home. And what of those electric bill reductions?
Next time say it was $1000 bill so it will sound even more fantastic.
I am just trying to figure out,
why we had a war against the:
National Socialists in Germany,
Community Socialists in Cuba,
Korean Socialists in, errr,, North Korea,
Japanese Imperialists in,,, errr, Japan,
Middle Eastern Dictators in,,, errr, Iraq, Afganistan, Iran, Libya, Egypt, etc, etc, etc.,
Cold War against the USSR and their U-top-ia with all men created WITHOUT OPPORTUNITY TO GET AHEAD,
And the EURO-ZONE Socialists!
Why are the EURO-ZONE Socialists Leaning towards the USA F-E-D-er-AL-ist
Way of life?
Go Figure!
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Can we let Obummer Control, these guys?
Kenya and all of Africa will be like Cuba!
Free Speech is wonderful !!!
Hate Speech is part of FREE SPEECH !!!
Do not incite Riots, or Killings, or Pushing another Black High School Student in Hawaii in ANY BOOKS!
Highway to the Danger Zone!
Morningsun ... I agree in part. However there's another couple of factors that you haven't accounted for. The photovoltaic cells require the sun to be shining as much as possible.
– sunlight is required: Areas of the Northeast (where I live), we go through several days a month where the clouds simply block out the sun.
– cost of the panels: there is a somewhat high cost for the panels themselves that you have to pay for up-front.
– cost of replacement of the panels: they have a certain number of years that they are producing enough electricity, and must be replaced every 10-15 years so that they capacity they are producing hasn't dwindled down to almost nothing.
– maintenance: in order to maximize the amount of electricity they generate, they should be clean enough to let the sunlight get to the PV cells.
And in case you're wondering, yes I have looked into them for my own household. The cost that I would incur AFTER tax incentives was almost $40,000. That # of panels needed was based on 20% reduction of my electric usage for the year.
The company that was selling the product stated that they last for 10-12 years. I would err on the side of caution and go with 10 years. So, that would add $333/month to the cost of any electricity that I was generating from the sun.
Remember that you must look at ALL of the costs, not just that your electric bill went down by $465/month.
And especially if you happened to have the PV installed just prior to a cooler month than normal, or changed the amount of electric usage you used, not to mention if you were on a budget of $500/month (as opposed to that being a single bad month due to an unseasonably warm timeframe). I know our house doesn't come close to $6,000/year for electric usage, which is what a "budget plan" from the electric company @ $500/month would amount to.
Those Chinese solar panels are nice, but Obama picked the winner in american solar technology and they failed.
One of the charters of the DOE is alternative energy, that is why they invested in Solyndra
Solyndra failed because of the rapid decrease in the cost of Silicon and competition from other cheaper Flat Roof solar panels.
Same old Ditto Head comment........
Actually, the Bush Administration picked Solyndra.
I agree with the OP. I was pricing a solar system for a row home in the Federal Hill section of Baltimore 3 years ago. For a system that would take up 2/3 of my roof with room to spare for easy maintenance (cleaning and such) I was quoted $27k. That was for a system that would produce enough power take me completely off grid and dump energy BACK into the grid which I would be paid for. I work in D.C. so I ended up purchasing a house in Northern VA. I'm buying another home within the next two years (just started a new family) and even though electricity is much cheaper here than in Baltimore I'm definitely buying a full solar system for my next home.
The bulk of the price for a solar system is the battery and system to connect to your power grid. The panels are relatively cheap (a few hundred dollars for a few hundred Kw/HRs panel). As a matter of fact you can buy the battery and power system and add the panels as you can afford them. The panels daisy chain together and are dead simple to set up. When it comes time to sell your house will sell itself... Who wouldn't move into a house that has NO electric bill.
that's great you saved all that money. On indivisual buildings and houses it works well. However these panels and associated systems are not cheap. You forget to mention the special equipment that must also be purchsed. The credits barely cover much of the costs. You wiil not always benefit from $35,.00 monthly bills. Do have a power backup in case something happens to the system like that nasty coal and oil fueled electricity? How about maintenance costs? What about insurance costs? What about repair costs? What if a hail storm damages all you panels and insurance refuses to cover it? It takes from 5 to 20years before you break even on the costs vs. savings. Lastly in order for panels to be a viable alternative to power a city like Las Vegas you would need thousands and thousands of panels and a lot of land to put them not to mention the total runs of wires to brand generator plants. All that for ONE city. Don't forget if the system fails guess what happens-city is in the dark with no power. A battery backup would be inpractical-you can't built enough batteries to run a city like vegas.
Good thing that big ditch south of Vegas is dammed up... Thinking it's called Hoover Dam
Ok , only if you rely on solar by it self. That has NEVER been the case. It helps quite a bit in the day.
If you put up 10 on your roof the impact to your insurance is negelable, I f you spent 10G, and your house is 150G, you have put in the same as a hot tub and patio.
Regardless you would hook up to the grid anyway! So you don't use any in the day bit use some at night.
IF you get additional forms of clean energy such as wind, and you don't have to HAVE a turbine, just contact the wind energy companies around your area and switch to one of their carriers.
THEN you have all clean energy, backup and itself paid off in 5 to 6 years, and the panels last for 25 years or so.
There you go.
You need a geography lesson…you need 1000 of panels and 1000 of acres to put them on…Hello Nevada! These panels work. I hear a lot of “why go to these new-fangled automobiles why my horse doesn’t need gasoline only hay.” Embrace technology or look foolish.
The sunlight is free. Capturing it is not. If the cost savings are so fantastic, why would tax credits be needed to market the product? Me thinks you are full of ka-ka. Or just an average moron.
Great for you, but please tell us how much it cost to have it installed, and then tell us if it takes more than 15 years to get your investment back, because then you need to have it replaced.
I've looked into this a lot. Get your panels online, buy the mini transformers that attach to the panel,( About 750$ both @ 185 watts = around 26 Kw per month) calculate your usage, then buy the amount you need with brackets and cables.
But if you contact a roofing company and YOU have all the stuff you can get a deal.
The last step is to call the electrician and have him plug you into your electrical box. (By law.)
And Bobs your uncle!
THE GOP'S HAS VOTED AGAINST EVERYTHING GOOD FOR MIDDLE CLASS PRESIDENT OBAMA AND DEMS WANTED TO HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS. HOWEVER THE GOP'S AND ROMNEY CONSTANTLY ARGUE CUT FOR THE MOST WEALTHY AND RICH LIKE ROMNEY.IF ROMNEY IS NOMINATED PRESIDENT BE PREPARED TO LIVE WITH A RELATIVE. HE IS SELLING A BUNCH OF HORSE PUCKEY. VOTE DEMS IN NOV-VOTE PRESIDENT OBAMA..
If you have to rely on somebody elses money to supliment your purchase in order for it to pay for itself, then it is not viable on its own. Every credible solar industry study shows that solar is not efficient enough (cost vs savings within the panels life) to work without subsidizing it. Maybe someday, but the right technology does not exist yet.
Please answer the question of total cost without credits, as i live in Florida and every quote we get doesn't come close to making sense.
I bought some bolt cutters and spool of heavy-gauge copper wire at the Home Depot. Tapped into my neighbor's power, and MY electric bill dropped to $0! It's cheap, easy, and viable today! Send $35, and I'll send you free instructions from the internet on how you can get all the power you'll ever need! Go! Do it now! Today! Order in the next 20 minutes, and I'll also throw in plans for your very own perpetual motion anti-gravity engine that runs on water.
Can you post your Electric Bills?
I would like to see them.
I bet you are like all the other Libs,,,, just spewing Smoke up my Smoke Stack!
Just tell us a little bit about the Volts and the Amps Available from the panels (when the sun is up)
and the Cost of the battery of Batteries (that you had to purchase on the side) to collect the energy.
Then let us know how many Watts you use per day.
Those with Math Skills, will figure out if you speak with Forked Tongue!
Proof President Obama knows what he is talking about when he speaks of creating different ways of creating clean energ
My husband and I received an electric bill for $497.00 in November. We felt if we didn't act soon our bill would be like paying a mortgage when we retire. We invested on buying Photovoltaic solar panels to harvest the sun's energy to power the electricity in our house and guess what? Our electricity bill in May was $35.00. Yes, we are paying for administrative fees only. Besides the low electric bill we received a nice tax refund because of the tax credits. President Obama tries to convince people to take up new and creative ways to find alternative energy instead of depending on oil. He is a visionary and willing to take risks, good risks for us. Everyone look to the future not the past. If you think the Republicans are going to help with your problems, think again. Please re-elect President Obama. He can help you.
And how much did you pay to install those solar panels? When will you recoup costs in savings?
How much did the tax payers foot the bill for your panels? What would their real cost be, if you didn't have the rest of us paying for them for you?
The costs around 9000 after the rebates. I did not buy it but bought a short sale house that had it installed. I will not boast 500-> saving but the bill last year was 135 peak–> 320 previous year
(cost of installation – credits)/(497-35)=# of months til payoff. It is true that if you do not take advantage of the credit yourself, you are paying for it, as well as you miss out on the advantage of it. That's why it's called an incentive (to go alternate energy).
so... using the formula you gave me that is 30.8 years... wow!
Hey Cindy did you actually own a home? Did you ever INSTALL alternative energy? If not STFU....please you reveal yourself to be a typical liberal expert. Does Obamas house have solar or windmills? Nuff said.
Why bother yourself, the gop folks cannot accept the truth even when it is right before their eyes. God help them...
That idiot from the CNN commercial says 'its tiiime to stoop speending' you could practically see the saliva running down his chin. It has been proven that Obama has spent a lot less than most presidents in last decades, that includes that bush guy (he treated the gov as his own piggy bank remember those blank checks).
Um, energy costs have gone up nationally. Obama has lost a lot of taxpayer money in faulty green energy company investments. I think you and Obama are 'cow pie distorters'.
What a primitive way of reasoning. So you prefer that America should just continue to rely on old way of doing things while the rest of the world is earnessing the solar power. Wake up Matt, this is 2012 and not 1812. The rest of the world is moving, wake up and move with them.
Matt- I believe President Obama did right thing what he has to do. He has been working so hard to find way. That's what I like about him. He has my vote 2012!
I surehope you are not referring to the solayndra situation where the company that recieved fedral funds closed shop. If you look at why it went under, you will see that it wasn't a bad investment, it was bad enforcement of patents as their revolutionary solar collectors were copied and mass produced by chinese firms at a fraction of the cost. The investement was good, protection of US intellectual property was bad.
Eric, if that were true, why did he not support the keystone pipeline. Riddle me that.
Ever heard of SpaceX or Tesla? Obama helped them too.
Yes, ONE company that Obama invested in DID fail. Do you know how many failures Thomas Edison had before he perfected the light bulb? over 3,000! At leat Obama is ATTEMPTING to promote clean energy! The GOP's grand plan is just to keep on polluting and using up all our resources! Great Plan,huh? Good luck with that. If clean, sustainable energy was simple and easy, everyone would be doing it already! So, the solutions are going to take time, effort and numerous failures!
So, what is YOUR solution? Just give up and run out of fuel?
Solar panels are a joke. The costs outweigh the savings. The Denver Museum installed panels and it cut the cost of energy by 5%.... meaning that they'd pay them off IN 100 YEARS.... Unfoturnately, the panels only last 20. My parents also purchased panels for their house. He told me all about them....
Note: Solar panels came out LONG BEFORE Obama was president. He can't take credit for those and any clown that gives him credit is just silly. Obama is making you his fool.
You can try to spread all the sunshine and unicorns you like, but it has been proven time and time again that Obama's magical energy policies don't pay off until the 10th or 20th or 500th year, and that assumes they even work in the first place.
This president is a disaster of biblical proportions, which is pretty difficult to attain when one hates all things christian like he does. Quite a masterpiece.
Not to mention how he distorts things time and time again. He makes Romney look like an amateur with his abuse of Bain in the form of selectively pulling stat after stat. Somehow Romney doesn't get credit for the work Bain did to build up Staples and their tens of thousands of employees, but Romney IS TO BLAME for the steel factory that was taken over and terminated by Bain years after he left?
Explain that one, Obama. You can't. You want to have your cake and eat it too.
I believe the only one who is distorted is yourself
great job!!! Get rid of good paying jobs with minimum wage work. The GOP plan!
Oh you have crossed a line. You dare attack the man's actions as preisdent with false claims, that's fine. It is our unalienable right to be critical of those who represent us.
You attack the man's religious beliefs with false acusation. You bare false witness! You will get your on judgement day. I will pray for you soul.
Be critial of Obama the President, be kind to Obama the Christian.
DC Johnny, why don't you save your breath. You'll probably need it later to blow up your vinyl "date".
Obama is a disaster? I think you might want to look in a mirror to get a truer picture of a disaster. You have not even taken any time to research voltaic solar panels. That is obvious by your ridiculous claim it takes many years to start seeing savings. Do you think you might take the blinders off after Obama is re-elected? You oppose Obama without ever checking the validity of things you think "sound" good to fit your opposition. Where I am from, that makes you a sock puppet.
Ah, typical GOP short term thinking. So because something has a 10 year payoff, it's unviable?
No wonder you guys don't see past the tip of your noses.
DC, where did you get your facts? Faux News? Anything that keeps us off fossil fuel is the best for our country and environment.
DC Johnny, Obviously you are republican. I can tell by the lack of knowledge in your statements. Why do repub's believe anything and everything that comes out of the Romney camps mouths. Do your homework and find the facts, they are freely available on the internet and not from Dem's sites. I am an independent so I don't just buy what either party is saying. I do the homework and then decide. I can tell you without fear of condradiction that Romney has been very dishonest on just about everything and THAT'S A FACT!
Well now, Mr. Willard and his Bain partners left us holding the bag here in SC. Even managed to get the State to issue bonds to buy the greenville sc plant. Took the millions, sold the plant (in peices, of course – each piece has either moved elsewhere or is now closed) and left town. I only wish I has run him out! SOB!
You are saying the sun is as hard to find as a unicorn? But you don't mind searching for oil in all the wrong places, I wonder what you would have said 500 years ago about searching for oil, not to mention the flatness of the earth.
@DCJohnny,Bain dropped Staples,Sports Authority and others after basicly bankrupting them.SportsAuthority owned by KMart was helped by WilliamBlairVenture Partners,Phillips-Smith,Marque VenturePartners,2006 acquired by PE Leonard Green Partners.Staples:PE William Blair-BessemerVenturePartners.OK, so Bain made money but left this corporations bankrupt.Other private equity "PE" or Venture firms came in,invested monies and made these dead corporations viable again,others much like GST Steel in KansasCity,Kansas weren't so lucky.Not all of these firms are bad,they did make money but they got people jobs and helped everyone in the area with getting the corporations competitive again.So please get your facts straight,you're starting to comment like that republican leper Romney,he'll go down because of his association with that other corporate ass Trump and people will see thru the B S smoke screen of Romney relating to the average poor and middle class citizen,yah right!And his comments like "corporations are people too",that's as hypocritical as it gets,does anyone think Romney ever suffered,if you do you're delushional,that's all I can say!!!Hey ,if any of you hypocrites may not know,Bain recieved bailout monies,not from TARP,but from the FDIC and to this day,Romney or Bain hasn't repaid any of the millions of tax payers dollars back, that's your candidate,steal from the same government he wants to run,real pathedic!!But ya know, if you're a republican ya got to be tough, cause you're most certainly ignorent!!!
The truth is the solar panels are connected straight to your grid and only reduce your energy bills because they can only store a limited amount of energy. The recoup period depends on where you live and how big your home is. Myy panels in Ky were going to cost 78,500 AFTER tax credits, and the recoup was 40 years. I was suppose to consider this like a second or third mortgage according to the salesman. UH sure I'll get right on that!
and don't forget that the life expectancy of panels is 15 – 20 years
And because of your story (which I frankly doubt), solar power is nonviable?
They need to get updated on info, unless they live in B F Egypt they can get a MUCH better deal.
Donald Trump, whether you like him or not, is a great man when it comes to managing money. He looked into putting solar panels om the roof of one of his buildings because all the hype says it makes sense...bot financially and environmentally. Once he got ALL the figures and crunched the numbers, he determined that initial cost versus payback over the life expectancy of solar panels is ALWAYS a net loss for the consumer and decided NOT to put them on his building.
There are some other factors that you haven't accounted for. The photovoltaic cells require the sun to be shining as much as possible.
– sunlight is required: Areas of the Northeast (where I live), we go through several days a month where the clouds simply block out the sun.
– cost of the panels: there is a somewhat high cost for the panels themselves that you have to pay for up-front.
– cost of replacement of the panels: they have a certain number of years that they are producing enough electricity, and must be replaced every 10-15 years so that they capacity they are producing hasn't dwindled down to almost nothing.
– maintenance: in order to maximize the amount of electricity they generate, they should be clean enough to let the sunlight get to the PV cells.
And in case you're wondering, yes I have looked into them for my own household. The cost that I would incur AFTER tax incentives was almost $40,000. That # of panels needed was based on 20% reduction of my electric usage for the year.
The company that was selling the product stated that they last for 10-12 years. I would err on the side of caution and go with 10 years. So, that would add $333/month to the cost of any electricity that I was generating from the sun.
Remember that you must look at ALL of the costs, not just that your electric bill went down by $465/month.
And especially if you happened to have the PV installed just prior to a cooler month than normal, or changed the amount of electric usage you used, not to mention if you were on a budget of $500/month (as opposed to that being a single bad month due to an unseasonably warm timeframe). I know our house doesn't come close to $6,000/year for electric usage, which is what a "budget plan" from the electric company @ $500/month would amount to.
SO what I get from your post is – if you need a nanny and can't take care of yourself, and do not want to take care of anyone else, vote Obama? Is this correct?
You hit it right on. Obama thinks his job is to be the "nanny of America". Then he says Romney doesn't know what it takes to be president.
My parents who are in their 60's looked into green power this year. After installing 30 4 foot by 8 foot solor panels in a side yard area it would cost them $30,000 to get the panels and have the system installed. I know people yell that's a lot of money. But if you do the research you learn more like this.........
Some states give you tax credits for using green energy.
Most solar panel companies offer rebates (my parents rebate will be $10,000)
The reduction in power bill will equal more savings I.e. pay for itself.
Where my parents live they give a $10,000 dollar tax credit for green power.
They saved $20,000 dollars by doing some research.
I know Still $10,000 is still a lot of money.
Well the extra power created by your system if any will be bought by your local power company usually at a lower cost then they sell to you but hey it's an income.
You get financed at $200 a month you make payments for 50 months after that you live totally green and may even make money on top of it. Not to mention the benefits it has on the environment.
So all this cost versus benefit argument is ridiculous since most of you have no clue what you are talking about.
That would be me. GM.
Stopthemadness,
Are you saying you'll eventually break even? The costs of installtion are ridiculously high. Then there's maintenance and that fact they surely won't last as long as even a furnace,for example. Then there's the fact that the parts you need will no longer be available. I'll give it a twenty year lifespan if you're lucky before major failure, by which time you'd be unlikely to have even come close to recovering the intial investment versus just paying for power as you are. Of course, then you have to pay for someone to take all the junk parts away as well.
You tell 'em! That is true and if you find a roofer and buy your own stuff you can get those costs down by almost 1/2.
Rebates... Credits... Someone has come up for the shortfalls and that is the taxpayer. There should be no rebates no tax credits since the USA is broke. There are too many people sitting in the cart and too few pulling it.
Obamass has created a welfare sucking country.
He can help you all right. He can help you move from work to food stamps. He can help you move from work to welfare. If you are illegal he can help you move from there to here. He can help you spend your hard earned money. He can help devalue your money through debt and money printing. He can help take you from free man to economic slavery. No thank – I don't need or want his kind of help.
Spike, so what your saying is that since Romney has the same plan GW Bush had we will be better of than we are now. The trickle down effect does not nor did it ever work. This theory was created by a republican! Do some research instead of just listening to what the repub's are telling you. You do have a mind of your own you know. If Romney gets elected this country will go to hell in a handbag faster than when GW was in office. If you think Romney and the Rebup's are looking out for the average US citizen you are sadly mistaken. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR AS IT MAY COME TRUE!
Fatuous nonsense.
You forgot to mention that he created private sector jobs for 26 months, GM is number one again in the world, CEOs are making even more money now, and he has spent less than previous presidents including that guy praise that was there before Obama.
Something stinks in here.... Sniff sniff smells like paid posters to the comments section by Abdullah Obama
It is great that Obama can do those things. But that is not the job of the President. Maybe he would make a great Secretary or something. Even if a Rep wins, maybe they will keep him because he is good at motivation. What he is not good at is meeting the goals he said he would meet. In any other aspect of our society, that would mean he would be out of his job. I don't like or not like any candidate, to me they are going to do whatever their opinion is that will help this country. If they fall far short after their first 4 years, then a new person should be brought in. After his first 4 years if he falls short, then he is out also. Obama has not gotten the important things fixed so it's time for someone new. That's not to say Obama did a bad job. It's just that he is obviously not the answer to fixing America. Will the next one be? Who knows...but we should only vote on what we know as fact. And the fact is our country is worse in most peoples' opinions (Rep and Dem alike) so it's time for someone new.
the only good thing a republican could do for this country is die and get out of it.and they too sorry to even do that.so just name one other thing,some american s are good at be side proforming Homo acts on republicans?
If I did not use a single watt of electricity my electric bill would be more than 35 dollars.......just for the hook-up privilage. A lot of people spout stuff about solar and do not even own it........if you live in an area that is cloudy part of the year or experiences hail on occasion then come talk to me.......and the average huge mulitmiillion dollar windmill out of awindmill farm can furnish the electricity for 700 homes(when its windy and not down for mainenance as they often are) and windmills kill birds.....the evironmentalists have taken away nuke plants, hydroelectric capacity, windmills will be next and solar we all know those panels cannot just go into a landfill........there are alternatives but I am sure after regulation and environmentalist liberals get at them they will cost more than any of the rest anyway......so just sell your home move into a studio apartment and whine.......thats what liberals do.......Best thing this country can do for energy is fire Barry........
If I did not use a single watt of electricity my electric bill would be more than 35 dollars.......just for the hook-up privilage. A lot of people spout stuff about solar and do not even own it........if you live in an area that is cloudy part of the year or experiences hail on occasion then come talk to me.......and the average huge mulitmiillion dollar windmill out of awindmill farm can furnish the electricity for 700 homes(when its windy and not down for mainenance as they often are) and windmills kill birds.....the evironmentalists have taken away nuke plants, hydroelectric capacity, windmills will be next and solar we all know those panels cannot just go into a landfill........there are alternatives but I am sure after regulation and environmentalist liberals get at them they will cost more than any of the rest anyway......so just sell your home move into a studio apartment and whine.......thats what liberals do.......Best thing this country can do for energy is fire Barry........the life long liar and greatest spending Potus in history....
Progress towards what, bankruptcy? He's spent more than anyone in history yet lies about it.
Delusion is just your problem S-Bob. You can't bring yourself to see the hole left by the gop when he took office. Your opinion is far from the REAL FACTS...
The current administration hates small business and it is at war with everyone. That political shill Holder is at it again. I will say it again, HOLDER IS THE BIGGEST POLITICAL HACK IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA. How can you libs justify suppport for an administration that is focused on this type of non-sense? What next, will they go after Hollywood and force them to hire ugly people as movie stars? This administration is OUT OF CONTROL!!!
South Shore coffee chain Marylou’s is singing the blues over a federal employment-discrimination investigation, crying foul that the feds are going after its long-standing practice of hiring bubbly young bombshells to peddle the shop’s trademark joe.The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has been quietly probing Marylou’s’ hiring practices for nearly a year, the Herald has learned, with investigators pulling reams of job applications, interviewing company brass and grilling the 29-store chain’s pink-clad clerks about their co-workers’ gender, age, race and body type, according to the company. Company vice president Ronnie Sandry EEOC officials told the company the investigation started over Marylou’s local TV spots, in which perky young baristas prance about and sing the company’s bluesy jingle boasting that its roast is “the best coffee in town.” Marylou’s customers said they’re siding with the coffee shop.
One more thing on the MaryLou problem. I can only guess that the owner of Hooters is a lib dem who donates money to this administration. Why else would the fed go after a local small business insted of taking on a large national busines for the same exact thing?
So the real facts are stilll "it's bush's fault" and the obamessiah new trick turning fluidity into whine with "it's the world economy" with his "blame the euro" tactic? Dear America, you are an idiot if you let this person "blame" his way into another 4 years. Anybody who's main qualifications on his resume are "community organizer" "half a term in senat" and more recently "doubled the national debt" has ZERO business questioning ANYONE's credentials for president.
The US is at war with many things like terrorists, drugs, and states that want nuclear weapons.
But to say that any US administration is at war with small businesses is simply a LIE.
Every administration wants more jobs for the people. That is how they ensure winning elections.
If you don't like Obama's solution to fixing the Bush/GOP economic mess (ie. war on the economy), then that is your opinion. But to claim that Obama is purposefully trying to destroy small businesses is just delusional.
Really, how do you explain going after a small business like Marylous? The example of what we are saying is in front of you in black and white. Do you think it is not true? This administration does nothing about medicare checks being sent to dead people or unemployment checks being sent to people in prison, but somehow they have time to attack this small business?
Two people in my family own small businesses. They feel they are under attack with all the unknows this administration hangs out there. Are taxes going up if Obama is reelected? Most likely. How about healthcare? Businesses with over 50 employees who can't afford healthcare fo rtheir employees – if your business needs over 50 and under 60 employees to run it do you think they will hire more than 50 employees or make due with overtime and not hire because of the unknows? How about large business? They have turned some industries up side down and haven't fixed anything. Today we hear of more big banks losing more money and the experts say DODD FRANK DIDN"T DO ANYTHING except put in place more confusing regulations.
So the price of energy "necessarily skyrocketing" doesn't harm small businesses?
You libs keep throwing Bush's name out there. I think Romney will be more like the new Repub governors that have turned their states around after DEMS destroid them. States like Wisconson, Indiana, and Ohio. Look at what has happened in these states then look at DC, Cali, VT, NY, IL. My point is simply – we have good and bad in both parties, but Bush has been history for almost 4 years now. For people like you to continue to blame Bush simply shows Obama is in over his head and he can't get the job done and people like you know it, but won't admit it.
Bush's name is used on the "blame-line" a lot because IT WAS HIS FAULT! Right-wingers never, ever, man-up to that fact. You did however try to blame President Obama three months into his term.
You can only beat a dead horse so much. By now there is another horse being prepped for beating, and is not Bush.
What are the REAL FACTS that you are talking about?
Exactly! The Rethugs live in a DREAM world of fear!
It was Bush's fault when he was presidnet. He is not president anymore. Is Obama responsible for anything? Wasn't it Obama who said if he can't fix the economy he should be a 1 term president? So when Romney is elected all problems that happen will be Obama's fault? Still Bush's fault? No, it will be Romney's mess to deal with. If I hear him say once it is Obama's fault he won't get my vote a second time. At this point, he seems to be the only choice.
So the big O tries to fix it by getting us deeper in debt than ever before since the beginning of time. And it ain't over yet. If he gets re-elected we'll lose most everything we have. Quit blaming every bad thing O does on the gop.
@ S.positive – Actually he is right on the money. It is you who is delusional. The President and democratic congress spent vast sums, and printed money as well, partly to protect union jobs, and partly to inflate the deficit down. This President simply does not understand the economy, and he has to address his record, the abysmal economy, and tell us why he should be re-elected rather than criticizing Romeny. Romney has a much better resume than Obama did when he ran in 2008.
John: We are small business owners and honestly things aren't much different under Obama than under Bush. Obama's payroll tax is actually better for employees than anything Bush did. I think you're confusing small businesses with KBR and other crony-capitalist institutions.
John:
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The current administration hates small business and it is at war with everyone."
The US debt since 2000, Bush took over a 5 Trillion dollar defiect and grew it by 5.6 Trillion over 8 yrs. Obama took over a 11 trillion defiect and has grown it by over 4 triilion in 3 yrs, the most increase came from 2006 through 2010. While the Dems controled the congress. Clinton did not shrink the defiect and there was no surplus. the defiect stay constant under a rebublican control congress. It is true that under the next Republican controlled congress they grew it again and they were rightly handed their hats and thrown out. Every party likes to blame their predicessor, but heres the Fact, A LEADER does not blame the situtaion that they take over, they LEAD the way out. Obama has not done that, He had a DEmocratic COngress for his first two yr. He could do anything he wanted. The Rebs, could not stop anything as they did not have enough members to filibuster. Below are the numbers from the Department of Treasury since 2000. If you cant see the truth then you are part of the problem. Also, Obama resigned the tax cuts, they are his now, not bushes, President Obama is the commander in chief , the amount spent on the wars is his to own Not bushes. He is not the first to take over a war from someone else and wont be the last. On January 21st 2009 Bush stopped being President and Obama took over, ever Action since that day is HIS problem Not bush. I also agree that when Rommeny takes over, if he blames Obama for ANYTHING he will be a one and done too.
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
Fact: Obama said he'd cut the deficit in half by the end of his 1st term.
Fact: He didn't do it.
Hi friends
remember what president truman said " the buck stops here" , things have got from bad to worse and no amount of spin can fix that, who did what in the past or now is all the responsibilty of the current president in hand, clinton had a good 8 years as senior bush increased taxes and lost elections then, bush jr fought two wars and grew business and no matter what u see the merit on not in these wars, he grew business by lowering taxes and no president before him did that and fight two wars, of course the business got greedy and messed up and the era of regulations was needed to fix the business arrogance and misuse etc
obama just like bush after 9-11 had an opportunity to bring people together and work on solutions, but he messed up real bad, choose to divide people, remeber ffriends " two wrongs do not make a righjt" obama messed up big time and it is time for him to go sayonara, he is the first african american president, won nobel price ,has a great family, but his term has to end
is romney better, not at all, but we cannot have 4 more years of this divisions in this country and obama has to go
Obama 'hates' small business, really, John??? They've not only fair well with his tax plan so far, not only doing well in a restored market, not only reporting that market orders are up, but commercial rentals are up, as are cash reserves and profits.
Conservatives only WISH they could make what Bush and the Republicans did to this country go away by merely crying 'unfair blame game!'.
What they did to this country made history – in a severe and bad way. We'd be ridiculously stupid not to remember where we've been in order to avoid it in the future.
The hole was created by the Democratic party fair housing initiative that lead to the sub-prime fiasco.
I'm uncertain who's delusional, I do recall some promises made during the previous campaign something to the effect that plans were already in place for shovel ready jobs on the first day of the new administration, boasting of the ability to work in a bipartisan fashion, transparency, running lobbyists out of the White House, having a plan in place to reduce the deposit in half by end of first term. As I recall campaign money was refunded to Solindra executives, after the elections. So once again I ask...who's delusional?
Zinger, I have two people in my family who own small businesses. One doesn't provide healthcare and one that does. Neither of them have hired at a rate they feel they need to. Both say they prefer to get it done with a little overtime until the whole Obamacare stuff plays out. They also both say when they have openings, they can't find people who want to work. IMO, this is a result of entitlements going crazy.
Good luck with your business. I hope you continue to thrive.
"The most increase came from 2006 through 2010...."
Uh.....do you remember what HAPPENED during that time period or were you living on the moon from the end of 2007 thru mid-2009? Had it not been for the TARP Program and the Stimulus, we'd be in the midst of the Second Great Depression right now. Instead, the economy is recovering, we have 25 months of positive private sector job growth, and gas prices are falling. You want to give the keys back to the same people whose "hands-off, non-regulatory" policies drove our economy off a cliff? I sure don't.
@John, for people like you to expect President Obama to fix the economic mess left behind after 8 years of Bush in only four years is beyond delusional. How long did it take to recover from the last Great Depression?
People Bush left America on fire and President Obama had a water gun to put it out. To suggest its President Obama's fault is delusional. Seek help because you have amnesia. Especially when he had one hand tied behind his back because the Repubs would block everything he tried to do. He had to fix it. But he sure did not own it on day 1.
Here we go with all that unfunded war KRAP again. May I remind you that our current president was a seated Senator at that time who told us that he would vote to do whatever it tool to protect our troops.... Then he, like the other liberals in congress did not fund the ware completely... His finger prints are all over the current budget/debt crisis from before he was president..... The one thing that I pray for is that the problem generated by the democratic congress in place during the last 2 years of President Bush can be fixed before we follow the country of Greece right down the old krapper!
Spent more??????
Uh i don't think so stupid. He's spent less than any president in 60 years. Where the **** are you getting that crap from?
Is it me or are republicans a bunch of anti-american bastards?
They really have no interest in helping this country. All they want it to sink it into the dirt. Republicans are a damn disgrace.
Where was all of this complain about spending when bush deep sixed the surplus?
It is most defineltly NOT JUST YOU. Maybe some aren't old enough to remember, or it's just convenient for them to forget that when W took over we had a budet surplus. It was under a republican president that seniors were given prescription coverage at a cost of hundrends of billions, it was under a republican president that tax cuts (supposedly temporary) were given to most (including the wealthy). It was under a republican president that the 9/11 attackers were able to fly planes into buildings killing thousands despite the fact that such a plan had been uncovered and those responsiible were in prison. It was under a republican president that were went to war against a country that had never attacked us and that only had weapons of mass destruction that we had given them under a different republican president. It was under a republican president that we had the tarp bailouts and the financial meltdown. It has been under an obstructionist republican congress that the current president has not been able to accomplish things that should have been accomplished. I do not like Obama and did not vote for him last election but he is at least someone who cares about our country and he will get my vote in the next election. Republicans=UNPATRIOTIC TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY. Obama swears allegiance to the United States, Republicans swear allegiance to Grover Norquist. If you love your country vote for Obama.
I get that he has spent more, as a percentage of the GDP, in each of his years in office than the worst year under President Bush from the President's own OMB.
Dana. The current administration is spending 9+ billion a day. Bush spent 6.5 million a day. If, in your mind 6 is more than 9 that is fine. But in the real world he is spending 3+ billion more a year any way you look at it (unless your name is Obama).
The GOP base especially with the TP are a bunch of old bigots they still do not accept a black person could become the president, they have been fighting him for four years on every front. Is a good thing that they are dying out, they will be a minority soon. If Mitt wins, and they get their agenda thought the legislation it will devastate this country, four years later the DEMS will win big. GOP will have no one but the TP to blame.
Where did you get your facts Dana? I suggest you do a little more research. And by the way, calling people stupid and using offensive language, tends to take away your credibility!
@John, Your distorting the facts, most of this spending is the war. It was FAR more under Bushie boy but he lied to us all by keeping the wars off the books.
This is where RepubliCONs get their numbers, so lets keep the numbers correct, add in the war costs for "W" and see the numbers rise!
Fox News voice of the Repubs
Check out the Fox BOD…any red blooded Americans there?….check out the top 25 shareholders…any red blooded Americans there? Now tell me why I should watch the flag draped programs they dish out. Don’t you know how divisive Fox is…maybe a little divide and conquer going on…think about it.
@John, Bush didn't count the cost of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars or Medicaid Part D. Obama did.
Actually, Obama claims based on this one news article (that has been demolished by the rest of the news media, not simply by Fox News) that he has INCREASED spending less than any President in the last 60 years. But that math only works if you ignore all of the spending that he himself signed in 2009. Many times, the first year's budget does not count against a new president because they have to deal with the budget put in place by the prior president. However, in this case, the Democrats in control of congress intentionally waited until Obama took office and Obama himself signed the 2009 budget, making those spending increases Obama's. Then Obama added stimulus spending and pushed through the healthcare reform bill which was designed not to pay out anything until four years of revenue had come in so that the cost of the bill for the first 10 years would remain below $1 Trillion (the revised data on that healthcare reform has since doubled the cost). The news article applied every accounting technique known to man to try to come up with this number and, even if you accept it, Obama is still spending more than all the previous Presidents, only his increase of the previous president is lower. Obama knows this statistic as a lie and he is preaching it anyway because there are people like you who will simply take him at his word. Obama is knowingly deceiving the nation by repeating the lies but he doesn't care as long as it gets him reelected. Even without looking at the specifics of the article, all it requires is a little common sense to realize that the national debt does not increase by almost 5 Trillion dollars if he is spending less than any president in the last 60 years. The president is knowingly passing on a lie created by someone out to get him reelected. I swear, every day we get closer and closer to living in Orwell's 1984. If the Party says it, it must be true and any contradicting evidence we have seen or heard before now must have simply been a personal hallucination! By the way, try reading 1984 and you will also discover a masterful political strategy that does indeed include reducing the standard of living while simultaneously telling people that things have never been better and then making sure that the news media reports only the Party line. Sadly, we are only a few short steps removed from living in 1984 ourselves.
its you Dana.... and foobar the baseline increases seem small... you have to look at the total added debt... its one thing to say gas went up $.10 cents a gallon, when your increased expense is 20% more than the previous year ... you tell me ... which is real?
Thats funny they just announced on the news through an independant agency Obama has spen well less than any other president in the last 60 years, this is a fact . I am no Obama fan,I am a Repub whp wont vote for Romney because I cannot support a non christian Cultist Bishop,this would be selling out myy faith to a man who Believes Joesoph Smith is the messiah and the Book of Mormon is the word of god, when he was a molester,and a murderer.I will not vote for either candidate this election but I will not lie for Romney Obama has been pretty conservative like the agency stated,most of what we have been hearing has been repub spin.
The President's OMB tells an entirely different story. Only president to have double digit deficit "AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE GDP" is President Obama.
6+ billion a day under Bush, 9+ billion a day under Obama. I am not calling you a liar. It wouldn't surprise me if NBC, CBS, MSDNC are reporting what you said. I assume they are looking at the numbers a different way and pushing expenses off onto Bush. That is why I prefer to look at the daily spending number. They really can't fudge that one.
So who is this independent agency, MSNBC, MEDIA MATTERS, MOVEON.Org, MAHER, ED SCHULZ.
@John Bush already distorted the numbers you are working with. (See post above.)
Sponge,
You are either trying to misdirect folks, or, you're megaphoning for Fox. What you stated about the Presidents "freewheel" spending is false. Could be that you just don't know any better. You should research what you say. At very least, people who listen to what you and gazillions of others are droning, should do some research.
The only way Obama's numbers work is if you subtract the stimulus, TARP2, cash for clunkers, the mortgage reduction program and the omnibus. Obama signed all these so therefore they're his. Only a moron would think otherwise.
OMG Kool-Aid. You statement is just as delusional as S Bob's. Why were the stimulus, TARP2, cash for clunkers, the mortgage reduction program and the omnibus necessary? Did you think cleaning up the mess would be free? Do you understand lag indicators? Did you just arrive to this planet on the Teaparty ship in 2008? Like Nicholson said, “You can't handle the truth"!
Another Fox basher? Have you ever watched Fox or are you totally ignorant on the subject and just feel like making ignorant comments?
If you want to talk about a true bias news station you may want to look at MSDNC. Last night maddow ran a story about Romney discussing his military strategy. At the end of the Romney clif she says "and I just have to let you know neither Romney or his children served in the military". maybe she could have mentioned Obama didn't even register for the draft as he was legally required to do? Then we have the whole Martin/Zimmerman case. MSDNC dedicated several shows over a 3 week period, including shows from Florida with that race baiter Sharpton spewing lies about Zimmerman and the FL police. Last week, after the additional information came out about Zimmerman being hurt and Martin having his knuckles brused. Guess what? MSDNC TOTALLY AVOIDED THE STORY AND DID NOT SPEND ONE SECOND ON IT AFTER THEY HAD REAL INFORMATION.
You are right the president hasn't spent a cent because by the constitution he can't only Congress can. Guess who has been running Congress since 2007? The democrats. Who is seen as the leader of the dem party? President Obama. Who urged Congress to spend all that money? Obama
"did you think cleaning up the mess would be free"? HE HAS SPENT 5 TRILLION IN LESS THAN 3 YEARS for a minimal impact on the economy!!! And now his plan is to tax and spend more?
I like things in simple terms. Obama said he raised spending by 1%. He is a liar using any numbers you want. But, let's look at a daily number. During the Bush administration we were spending 6+ billion a day. Now we are spending 9+ billion a day. If that is a 1% liberal land that is what it is, but in the real world Obama is a liar on this one.
16T now is still more then the last guy. Just blame someone else.
I love how John acts like a pie-eyed bewildered child... OMG 5 trillion in less than 3 years for a minimal impact. Well then sir, you must be psychic to determine what kind of economic hardship the stimulus prevented. I am well aware that your mind is probably not developed enough to understand a thought so abstract as 'less bad is more good'. You see, if we spent 5 trillion to avert a deep depression, it was well worth it. You claiming that you know the impact of the stimulus is a mark of your stupidity on the matter.
No doubt big lie on the spending. Besides only you goof balls out there believe that all this was necessary to clean up the mess. I didn't agree with Bush's bailouts and I don't agree with Obamas. The gov. only gets in the way and EXTENDS the short term pain we could have had. Spending your self out of debt defies logic, its swimming upstream, pi ssing in the wind, and then to think anyone in washington has proven themselves capable of deserving more tax money...to do what find ways to SPEND. If any of you think this is somehow good or positive yoou must be enjoying your food stamps...
I love how you guys want to include Iraq, Afghanistan, Medicare Part D, and the Bush tax cuts as part of 'Obama's Debt'. Those account for over $500 billion in continued deficit spending and accounts for over half of 'Obama's Debt'. These are all things that are doing NOTHING to help us get out of this economic mess, but not one Republican ever talks about it.
In a DEMOCRACY, Keynesian economics is the only solution to dealing with major recessions.
Why? Because if a gov't does not improve the economy, they are toasted at an election time.
Even if it was a REPUIBLICAN President, they still would have employed Keynesisan stimulus spending. That is what every economic advisor to the President and Congress would have advised. Hence, why Bush agreed to a stimulus spending himself.
So, if you don't like the Keynesian economics prescriptions to solving to major recessions, then you need to move to a COMMUNIST or DICTATORSHIP country where the gov't leaders can't get booted out of office for prolonged economic hardships.
Bush/GOP took a 200M surplus from Clinton and turned it into a 1.5T budget DEFICIT.
We are still stuck with that 1.5T budget DEFICIT that we inherited from Bush/GOP!
In 4 years, that is: 4 years x 1.5T = 6T
You want a budget surplus again, then repeal: Iraq/Afghanistan wars, Medicare Part D, and the Bush tax cuts
If Obama was that worried about the economy he wouldn't be using my money to go, and send his wife and daughters on so many Extra-expensive Vacations!!!!
That 1.5 Trillion Dollar Deficit for Obama's first year, is all his. Yes the Fiscal Year begins in October, howeverFY2009's budget, the last budget the Democrat Controlled Senate passed, wasn't passed until March 2009 and signed into law by President OBAMA. The worse year of the Bush Presidency was half that.
As a percentage of the GDP, according to the President's OWN OMB, the worst deficit year under President Bush was 4.5% deficit. The best Year under President Obama was 9% of the GDP. (His worst year is 11% of the GDP.)
B Tripp, you seemed to avoid the fact that Obama is telling you blind supporters that his administration has only increased spending by 1% when under Obama we are spending 9+ billion a day and under Bush it was 6 billion.
Nobody really knows the true impact of stimulas. What we do know is the money has run out, the economy is forecasting a less than 1% growth for at least the first 6 months of next year and this administration is talking about ANOTHER STIMULAS, in addition to raising taxes.
@John
Every economist in the US and the world said because the first stimulus was too small that we need another stimulus.
Many economists are upset that Obama's stimulus was too small!
Obama wants is more INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING ... you know to upgrade our roads, highways, airports, bridges, trains, etc ... so that they don't fall apart and so that we can catch up to countries like China.
That is a good thing.
Taxes are LOWER under Obama. Obama has actually implemented many targeted cuts on top of the Bush Tax Cuts.
The Bush Tax Cuts are terrible. His tax cuts actually DE-STIMULATED the economy. That is why Bush/GOP had to passed a second tax cuts bill in 2003 to fix the first tax cuts bill 2001. That is why Bush/GOP wanted to invade IRAQ ... STIMULUS SPENDING! War is STIMULUS SPENDING.
Go GOOGLE: Bush's Own Economic Advisers Thought Tax Cuts was Terrible Idea
Reggie you are simply delusional. ALL of that spending is on Obama. ALL OF IT.
@Marley – "Every economist in the US and the world said because the first stimulus was too small that we need another stimulus."
Every economist? Doubtful. You obviously don't have even a rudimentary knowledge of economics. We CANNOT tax and spend our way out of this. Government has no business picking winners and losers.
"Why do you think the GOP is against equal rights for women, people of color, and gays?"
Are you on drugs? Do you even have a shred of proof to back up your assertion?
Reggie – You should be listening to all the news networks, not just one and then rejecting those you don't like. Think for yourself man, and don't support Mr. Obama just for partisan reasons. Try to be objective and think about the country.
@Marley.....YOU are talking out your, you know what!!! I AM an economist and YOU couldn't be any FARTHER from the TRUTH!!! Just as someone already stated you have NO clue about economics!!!!! Almost all of the Economists I work with think the stimulus was a VERY BAD idea AND done very LITTLE to NOTHING to help the economy!!! How about you actually do some research before you open your mouth!!!!!!
@BetterThanLife who wrote: "That 1.5 Trillion Dollar Deficit for Obama's first year, is all his. Yes the Fiscal Year begins in October, however FY2009's budget, the last budget the Democrat Controlled Senate passed, wasn't passed until March 2009 and signed into law by President OBAMA. The worse year of the Bush Presidency was half that. "
Google: 2009_United_States_federal_budget
The United States federal budget for fiscal year 2009 began as a spending request by President George W. Bush to fund government operations for October 2008 – September 2009. The final FY2009 budget was signed by President Barack Obama on March 12, 2009
The financial cost of the Iraq War and the War in Afghanistan were not even included in Bush's estimates.
Because of the required STIMULUS, Obama only increased the 2009 budget by 400B.
So it sounds like you are trying claim it is Obama's fault for GREAT RECESSION which began in late 2007.
The 2009 budget which Obama inherited from Bush would not have had 1.5T budget deficit, if there was no recession, no unpaid wars, no unpaid prescription drug plan for seniors, and no unpaid tax cuts.
Good advice Ted. You must be new here. I watch and read everything can. Most of the time it is a little overwhelming, but it provides a good knowledge base.
It is amazing about some of these posts that hate Fox News but have never listened. The same way with Romney because if CNN says it, it must be true!
Have you ever noticed how few stories there are praising Romney on CNN? They are not balanced! No wonder their ratings are at historic lows!
Spending is projected to have risen at an annualized rate of 1.4% during Obama's first term. Verses 7.3% for GDub's first term and 8.1% in his second. These are the numbers with the Stimulus attributed to Obama. No President has increased spending at a slower rate since Dwight Eisenhower in the 50s.
Maintaining the level of spending reached during the Bush years was probably the correct thing to do, as there is no way to gauge the level of damage that would have been done to the economy without the spending; However, I think we can all agree that going forward it is not sustainable.
Tom, look at the daily number under Bush and Obama. You will see the daily number under Bush was 6+billion and now it is 9+ billion. If that is 1% to you that is fine, but it isn't. And, I assume the people reporting it know it isn't.
It is similar to the cathloc church sueing this administration. Have you seen this story in the main stream – no you have not. Why do you think?
Marley, I realize that this administration has a new math, but your math is even better.
S-Bob,
Can you tell me the state of the economy and why it was that way before BO took office.Do you remember when our tax money was being used to state unnecessary wars and got our service men and women killed.
Now Obama comes into office and wants to use your money to save lifes and help the most vulnerable in these bad economic times u scream socialist but never heard your voice when these same monies were being used to fund wars upon wars.You are the reason why building more schools,hiring more teachers and improving the educational institutions should be a priority.
STOP WATCHING TOO MUCH FAUX NEWS
Obama only likes UNION jobs.
He said No to Boeing in S.Carolina when they wanted to create 1000 non Union jobs.
BTW, he said no to Keystone pipeline to keep his tree huggers happy too.
What unnecessary war did we start? The only unnecessary war in the since NIXON got us out of Viet Nam is Libya. And that was done without the advice and consent of Congress.
Maybe if ONCE in a while you would listen to FOX news, not the commentary the NEWS, and not just listen to the commentary from MSNBC, which has no news personal, but gets their stories from media matters and the WH.
@Better- I'm can't believe you asked what unnecessary war (Iraq) was started? Really???? Please explain why it was needed and what we got out of it besides all the bloodshed and debt? Man, what delusion!
@Lizzie. Fox news gets their talking points from the Republican party. This is a well-established fact.
Could it possibly be the democratic controlled congress during President Bushes last 2 years???? just sayin"'
Can you tell me the state of the economy and why it was that way before BO took office.Do you remember when our tax money was being used to start unnecessary wars and got our service men and women killed.
Now Obama comes into office and wants to use your money to save lifes and help the most vulnerable in these bad economic times u scream socialist but never heard your voice when these same monies were being used to fund wars upon wars.You are the reason why building more schools,hiring more teachers and improving the educational institutions should be a priority.
STOP WATCHING TOO MUCH FAUX NEWS
The actual facts do not support this statement. Wherever you gotit, you should think about posting anything else from that source.
you are right. 16T is more the the last guy
All our side does is whine and boohoo about Bush.
It is going on FOUR years now, with NO results.
don't state the facts!!
It will make the Liberal's heads explode.
And he needs and should have SPENT MORE to actually get this economy going. CUTTING spending now IS SUICIDE. Lower government spending will result in low growth, low growth will result in another recession which will result in lower tax revenues which will result in HIGHER DEFICITS.
CUTS=HIGHER DEFICITS.
Wrap that areound you feeble minds, Rethugs!Don't believe me? LOOK AT THE UK!!!!!!!!
MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING 2012!!!!!!!
How heavy in debt are you? Have you managed to spend your way out of that mortgage, car loan, credit cards, etc. So how is borrowing 40cents of every dollar. of income you earned, to pay your debt working for ya? I'm sure if you spend just another $100,000 on more stuff, which adds to your debt, will pay off your mortgage. I forgot you went to the school of rob peter to pay paul of spending and debt!
Democrats live off the tax dollars of hard working Republicans.
Repub kids will be straddled with $ 16 trillion debt because Democrats want to spend more and more and more.
What you right-wing nuts fail to acknowledge is that Bush/GOP left us with a 1.5T budget DEFICIT. That is a yearly deficit!
All those things like STIMULUS spending, were ONE TIME INVESTMENTS that have paid off for themselves.
So if you are so concerned with the deficit, then the first place to start is to get the GOP in Congress to sign off on returning to a budget surplus (like under Clinton) by repealing the 3 major Bush/GOP spending programs: unpaid wars, unpaid prescription drug plan for seniors, and unpaid tax cuts.
Yeah baby it's BUSH'S fault, SHRUBYA DUN IT , it's somebody else's fault you can't blame a guy that's been in office three + years or hold him responsible for a ANYTHING!! He couldn't really do anything about it because it was somebody else's fault. He needs more time, more debt, and just a few more dog steaks. FOUR MORE TRILLION (sorry, I meant years) FOUR MORE YEARS FOUR MORE YEARS WHOOOOOO.
So what is Obama spending the war money on now? Certainly not the military....
Bush left a 1.5 T deficit and Obama has spent 5 trillion. What is your point?
im an independent and only make up my mind when i here the issue. but i do know both sides lie. I have fact checked this Administration spending record and the right flat out lies about it.
@John
1.5T BUDGET DEFICT ... that is a yearly deficit ... Bush/GOP policies are adding 1.5T a year to the federal deficit.
Now the 1.5T figure is a rounded off. But do math: 1.5T x 4 years = 6T
So if you are complaining that spending is too much, then that is because of the Bush/GOP policies we are still living with.
"debt" , "deficit" have different meanings. try to pay attention i know there are a lot of big words out there
It's NOT just Bush II that screwed the poor and working class over. It's Ronnie Ray-Gun and his "open borders" import plan with Japan (while THEY locked US out!). It's Bush I, for CONTINUING Reagan's "job export...union busting" trade policies. Bush II just gave us the "same-old, same-old". He DID drive the final stake into the hearts of the poor and middle classes by exporting our wealth and tax generating manufacturing sector to China. Trying to "reverse" that while the Rich control the Congress through their Republican "pimps", is just about impossible. Jesus Christ couldn't have done it!
Marley, once more. 6+ billion a day under Bush and 9+ billion a day now. It can't be any simpler. 9+ billion is 3 billion more than 6+ billion and it proves the president is not telling the truth about his 1% additional spending.
Not according to the Chinese! Please explain how they paid for themselves? Where you people get your accounting ideas is beyond. Oh, I forgot you get them from Congress where 2 + 2 =8.
@John
Unfortunately as per usual you only tell part of anything and avoid the unpleasant truth of the 10 year $8 trillion dollar shortfall..This can be checked out on Politic Fact.
When President Bush took office in 2001, he inherited a $236 billion budget surplus, with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When he ended his term, he left a $1.3 trillion deficit and a projected 10-year shortfall of $8 trillion
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/15/david-axelrod/axelrod-claims-bush-saddled-obama-big-deficit/
Just like the Solyndra deal which was planned in 2005, approved in 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra_loan_controversy
Uh lets see Marley.... If the figures and the math are correct, and lets for the sake of argument say they are, then we can say that President Bush did 6T in 8 years and President Obama did 5t ins 3 years..... Hmm and don'tspout that undfunded war krap... the last 2 years of President Bushes term were a democratically controlled congress which did not fully find the effort... Oh and who was a sitting Senator at that time???? BINGO Then Senator Obama voted to not fully fund the war... In essence the following 2 years were fall out from that time.... Liberals have no one to blame but themselves....
He's a far better President than George Bush. I will vote for him again.
How about the fact that you're completely wrong. Reagan and the last Bush both spent about the same as Obama. Only difference is one made a mess in doing it, while the other had to come in and clean it up by spending.
More BS, 6+ billion a day under Bush. Currently under Obama we are spending 9+ billion a day. 6 Billion and 9 billion is the same in liberal land? I didn't think so.
John
Did you notice that congress passed the defense spending bill that was more than $100 billion more than Pres Obama and the MILITARY actually requested. Thats almost $3 billion a day extra. THis amount was forward by the repubs , and forced through, yes some dems voted for it , mainly because they knew if they didnt support it they would be labeled as anti military, anti american and in league with terrorists , by tea bag repubs in the upcoming elections
So now Obama can't do it because he doesn't want people saying thing? Is that the excuse of why he signed it?
3 bill a day = over 1 tril in a year. Your math is not right
Listen I cannot Stand by and let these people distort reality...the deficit was ran up by the Bush tax cuts and 2 wars...these were handed to Obama along with a depression and now the GOP would like to blame it all on Obama. Fat chance we are not buying your cowpies anymore.
Well let us see here. According to you and all the other accounting wizards Obama inherieted such a mess it was beyond Obama to fix it. This is how it was for me under Bush: Gas was a $1.70, unemployement was around 4.2%, job growth was around 400,000 a month and growing, I got a big raise that year and I could afford to live because health care costs were low, food was affordable, and and my employer was hiring and planning on expanding . Along came Obama and the dems and this is what I got from all the brillant ideas they implemented: haven't had a pay raise in 3 years, gas hovers around $3.79, jobless rate is over 8%, millions more have given up looking for work, job growth is pretty much nil, food costs are through the roof, health care costs Obamacare were suppose to keep down are through the roof. My employer laid off hundreds and cancelled all expansion plans. God how I suffered under Bush and Obama saved me!
@Kevin – you know what you are saying is full of lies. Either that, or you weren't living in the US during Bush's 2nd term. How you can say any of this with a straight face; gas went up to $4 under Bush (Bush himself couldn't believe it was that high when his people told him!), businesses were closing all over the place, people were being layed off left & right. unemployment rate was over 7% by end of '08, stock market was crashing...need I go on. GET REAL MAN!
The actions of then Senator Obama have come home to roost.... He helped create the turmoil during the last 2 years of Bushes term... He thought he could fix it when he got to the white house ... but even with a completely democratic congress it eluded him... now it is time to scramble andspind all that he can back on his predecessor.... Language like cowpies when in Iowa, and more sophisticated language for more sophisticated urban areas... Don't you see it ... he speaks to what HE thinks his audience IQ is and in doing so insults the American people... So many of you have drunk the Obama-ade that you don't see it. Once I respected him as a Husband and a Father even though I disagreed with his political view... lately it only seems to be about him and that concerns me...
Obama's answer to our problems is raise taxes. That solves nothing.
Obama has lowered taxes. Taxes are actually lower right now under Obama then they were under Bush.
Here are the average spending increases per year in raw dollars (not adjusted for inflation) in descending order by president:
President Fiscal year Last fiscal year Average percentage increase per year
Carter 1977 1981 16.4
Nixon 1969 1975 13.5
Johnson 1964 1969 11.0
G. W. Bush 2001 2009 10.2
Reagan 1981 1989 8.6
Kennedy 1961 1964 7.1
G H.W. Bush 1989 1993 5.8
Clinton 1993 2001 4.0
Eisenhower 1953 1961 3.6
Obama 2009 2013 1.4
Those are the facts! You can't handle the facts!
Another $5.7 trillion added debt during 3 1/2 years of Obama.
That's all we need to know. That debt gets put on our kids and grandkids.
Not surprised that somebody replied to you trying to tie expenses associated with Bush's crash and unfunded wars to Obama. That is just pathetic.
How do you calcualte these numbers. We know America spent 6+ billion a day under Bush. We know we are spending 9+ billion a day now. Your numbers do not make sense outside of liberal world.
No, those are statistics, not facts. They also show your sheer ignorance by using them. The fact is that Obama is the first and only President to have a $1T+ deficit and he's repeated that feat every year he's been in office. He had a Democrat controlled Congress (with a Senate supermajority when you include Lieberman) for his first two years – that's a fact. The Democrats own his first two years of deficit spending completely.
I'm so tired of the repeated false claim that the Dems had complete control for Obama's first two years. That simply is not the case. They lost control early on when Kennedy died and Scott Brown took his place and they then did not have a filibuster proof majority. The Repubs abused the filibuster and used it more times than ever in our history to stop anything the Dems wanted from getting passed.
@John. You are either an a$$ or a shill for the Republican Party. No matter how much you repeat your simpleton statistic it will no make it meaningful. Bush's economic disaster did not end the day Obama took over. Bush's policies created an ONGOING debt that the country had to pay. Then there was this thing called the Great Recession. We should have repealed the bush tax cuts, ended the Bush wars, repealed the unpaid for Medicaid Part D and spent EVEN MORE MONEY.
So which numbers are billions and which ones are trillions... How convient that you did not specify... we can interpret these numbers any way you want
LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT OBAMA WOULD MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT. IN FACT HE SAID WE ARE THE ONE WE ARE LOOKING FOR. WELL MAYBE SO. HOWEVER I DON'T THINK OBAMA WOULD MAKE A VERY GOOD MILKMAN. SO FAR ALL WE ARE GETTTING IS A LOTTA BULL.
Ray, you really didn't have to tell us you were from Georgia... we knew that!
Luv ya Jean, whoever you are. Please! Don't move to Georgia. The place is filling up now! Go to uh, Montana. There is lots of space out there! If not take a vacation! Go to Niagra Falls. Take a Barrel......
ONE AND DONE.
more like NONE and DONE
More like nothing and done...
"Contrary to conventional wisdom and conservative rhetoric, Obama didn’t start the fire and, in fact, has done more than recent presidents to contain the blaze. I briefly mentioned this in yesterday’s post on the new Crossroads GPS commercial, but the simple fact is that Obama has run a shockingly cost-sensitive administration. Writing for MarketWatch, a project of the Wall Street Journal, Rex Nutting found that government spending has slowed dramatically under the Obama administration. From fiscal year 2010 to the present, government spending — including the stimulus bill — has risen at a 1.4 percent annualized pace, slower than at any time since the 1950s. For those who value fiscal responsibility, Obama is better than any of the past four presidents"
Again, 6+ Billion a day under Bush, 9+ billion a day now...
You need to stick to first grade math, because you obviously do not understand basic statistics. To call the only President that has had a $1T+ deficit 'fiscally conservative' demonstrates one of two things: you lack a basic understanding of the words you're using or you're telling a lie.
I don't understand the GOP and Right Wingers, they are voting against themselves because they are scared of President Obama's color. They are willing to throw America under the Bus, just because President Obama is a little too dark for them. It's a sad day when America treats one of the Best Presidents we have ever had in our history so undignified. I can't even hold a conversation with Right -Wingers anymore they distort the truth, and make up lies as though it is nothing. They are dispicable people who have compromised all their morals to serve the devil Mitt, whom they were against, so much that they had 7 favorites in front of him, before they settled. Do we want the party of confusion to decide what is right for us as a country or President Obama who has put the ship back on course and kept it from sinking?
@ John...You must live in some time warp or you are smoking crack ....in 2007 the Iraq War cost were figured at $720 million per day.:
"The $720 million figure breaks down into $280 million a day from the Iraq war supplementary funding bills passed by Congress, plus $440 million daily in incurred, but unpaid, long-term costs." The war lasted 10 years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/21/AR2007092102074.html
And low and behold we are still paying for that fiasco.
http://democrats.senate.gov/2008/02/28/president-bushs-war-has-cost-our-country-dearly/
Blaming the President for the spending required to get us out of Bush's deep recession is denial of the facts. It's like having your home on fire, calling the Fire Department, then blaming them for the water bill when they put the fire out. If you're a Republican in Congress it's even worse... because you'd be trying to block their access to the home by sitting in the street whining and telling lies.
Good party line guy.
Obama gave himself an incomplete for a grade. What do you think he will get done if he is reelected? Will we get 4 more years of blaming Bush? We do not need more class warfare from the leader of America.
Blaming Bush... Class warfare... That's exactly the talking points from Fox News and is most definately the party line straight out of Karl Rove's play book. I blame Bush because it was his fault. Defending only the wealthy is class warfare and old Karl would be proud of you. Who's trying to bust the unions? Who's protecting the tax rate of the uber-rich? Ronald Reagan was a fan of the same tax rates President Obama proposes. Was he a Socialist?
Old Karl Rove preaches to right-wingers to project your own bad behavior on the other side. Good job!
What would you have done given the same economic situation?
The ONLY "disaster" is putting this 1%'er in to continue the failed economic policies of the Republican Party. Romney would be a "disaster" for the poor and middle classes in this country. He was a "disaster" for the poor and middle classes as the CEO of Bain. He was a "disaster" for the poor and middle classes as the Governor of Massachusetts. If you want an economic "recession" to degrade to a "depression", vote "Republican" in November!
You people cut down Fox for no apparent reason other than the DNC leads you that way. If you watched even 1 hour you would understand. I watch them all and NOTHING COMPARES to MSDNC in terms of bias.
Obama is a 1% – what a stupid term. Another stupid deflection by the dems. I love that it is coming back to haunt them – OWS terrorists...
Larry, L is Karl Rove in disguise. Not a very good disguise there Karl, you...argh... you old sob.
Fox "News", aka Murdock propaganda, is all you are selling and we are not buying any more.
obviously you are not fact checking. Im an independent. and what you are saying is absolutely false. Please do your research as Americans so we can make a good choice for the country. And when you make things up like FOX and MSNBC or quote them without fact checking you make us all dumber.. What you said is absolutely not true.
Actually he has not spent more than any other president. You really should check your facts before posting the usuaa misleading talking points from the republican party.
Obama's past and present are a cow pie of distortion. He mangles all facts to fit his agenda.... He's hoping to create a catch phrase, but instead has highlighted his administration's crappy record.
Obama stinks.
Yeah..Romney is ALWAYS right because his history says one thing and his mouth says another. His years as the CEO of Bain taught him to talk out of both sides of his mouth. NOTHING the guy says can be believed. He acts, well and truly, like the "sociopath" he probably is.....
We were very close to falling off a financial cliff in January 2009. Why do you think President Bush issued the first TARP package? We had already lost 8.5 million jobs and the trajectory and momentum of the economic curves was frightening. Without a manufacturing capability (sent offshore by the fat-cats) we had nothing to use to allow the imaginary "free market" to rebound. What would we do – sell ourselves stuff? Republicans rant about the stimulus spending but never answer this question – "You caused the recession with two wars and a cut & spend budget. What would you have done to get us out of the recession besides let the nation's businesses fail?" Give us some actual economic specifics – not the usual Fox News talking points. Would you have tried to bail out the home mortgage situation? Would you have tried to lower healthcare costs? Would you try to save the auto industry? Obstructionism was what you did as the minority party. What would you have done with control of the Presidency?
Here you go. Instead of wasteing all that time and effort on Obama care and ruining our healthcare for the next several years or more they should have tackled the tax code and removed all breaks and loopholes and instituted a flat tax. Campaign finance should have been totally overhauled with limits, and entitlements should be totally overhauled. GM/Fanny/Freddy should have been dismanteled and the fed should be audited, and the housing should have been left to bottom out so it could rebuild. After all of theis, Bowles Simpson should be instituted. One last thing – congress. They need to be under the same laws as the rest of the American people.
Overhauled the tax code and instituted a flat tax. Put strict limits on campaign financing. Stopped the money being sent to other countries and look at each case individually. Let GM go chapter 11 and rebuild under those terms. Audit the fed, and make Franny and Freddy private. Get out of the tuition business. I also would not have sent 6 months on a bad law that is going to be repealed.
Sadly, we know what they would do. Continue to give more and more $$, power, and control to the corporations (ala Bush' Energy Task Force) while doing less and less for the little guy. Bush/Cheney Inc.'s corruption is legendary – GOPers and Tea Partiers need to wake up and realize they're being used by Cheney, Rove, Norquist – who only really care about their rich corporate friends getting richer. If you won't wake up, then the next time your town is hit by a natural or man made disaster, don't come trying to the Fed gov't (and community chest) for help. Fix it your own darnself!
President Barack Obama has actually presided over the smallest increases in federal spending of any recent president.
Not only is it beneficial to check facts b4 typing, it is more important to do YOUR OWN research to make sure that the bloggers are correct
Try not to confuse Larry L (Karl Rove) with the truth. He likes that Fox "News" propaganda.
New study out that demonstrates Fox viewers are less informed AFTER watching the "news" on Fox.
It is really Murdoch who is in control–he feeds you the "news" he wants you to hear (made up from scraps of dissembling) and ignores any truth. That is why people are so lost on the right.
Obama actually presided over the biggest increases in federal spending (obama care-which has not even taken effect however he still gets the credit for the future expenses, same with the destruction of cheap coal)during his first two years. However, thanks to the party of no (thank you teaparty), you are correct the brakes were put on spending recently. Which I find hillarious when people talk about the truth they really only want to talk about the truth as they paint it.
ABCNews:Obama was referring to an analysis released this week by Rex Nutting, a reporter for CBS Market Watch who is also affiliated with the Wall Street Journal. Nutting concluded that Obama has presided over the slowest growth in federal spending in decades.
the truth will set US free. Obama has been a good President.
you could easily drive yourself into a violent rampage just by reading whats on these boards. You're what's wrong with America. You people are so sensational and ignorant it's no wonder politicians of both sides walk all over you.
Really, then why are you here?
When FDR listened to one of his right wing advisors and cut spending in 1936, he caused the "second" Depression of 1937. Now is NOT the time to cut spending. In fact, the government should begin a MASSIVE employment program and become the "employer of last resort". If it's going to cost us more, no problem. Let's tax the Rich elite who were SUPPOSED to bring us jobs with the 10 years of the Bush tax cuts.
Hey Badguy,
I think the current economic mess was a result of the Housing Bubble. The Housing Bubble is a result of the Liberal Politicians, Namely Barney Frank, Congesssman from Mass. and Chris Dodd of Conn. They refused to repair legistation tnah Bush tried to stop that allowed people to take out Home Morgages even tho most couldn't afford them. When the bill came due "Cowpies" hitting the fan, and nobody could pay their morgage jobs dissappeared, banks went under, etc. Lehman Brothers lost 600 Billion dollars and is no more. The blame goes to the Liberal Democrats and the PEOPLE, that's right, the people that couldn't pay their morgages. Taxing the so called rich will only keep unemployment high. Just Yesterday HP announced they were laying off 27,000 people. Obama doesn't have a clue and it shows.
"Rupert "Fox News" Murdoch is in meltdown mode. Three of his aides face sanctions from Parliament for lying, another has been charged by UK prosecutors with "conspiracy to pervert the course of justice," and Murdoch himself is accused of having instructed then-Prime Minister Tony Blair to block the phone-hacking investigation. In the U.S. there is no Congressional investigation yet, but over 15,000 of us have demanded one. You can do so now - and then forward this to everyone you know who puts truth and justice above Fox News."
Headquartered in the U.S., Murdoch’s News Corp. owns dozens of American outlets including Fox News, Fox Broadcasting, Wall Street Journal and New York Post. His outlets are powerful opinion-shapers; no one pushed harder for the Iraq invasion than Murdoch and his media.
A British Parliamentary committee recently declared Rupert Murdoch “not a fit person” to run a major company. The committee found that Murdoch had “turned a blind eye and exhibited willful blindness” while his London newspapers massively hacked into private citizens’ phones and computers – and bribed police officials (Roots Action, May 25).
You have been fooled and we all suffer. Down with Fox.
Ray – We had NO housing bubble or mass bankruptcies when people had jobs. The export of the high paying, highly taxed, manufacturing jobs to China DEVASTATED our economy and produced the home owners who couldn't pay their mortgages...plain and simple. If we STILL had the manufacturing base we had 20 years ago, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now. Don't let the Republicans sell you the "spin" that a "symptom" (mortgage defaults) was the "cause" (job export). They just want to hide the "death dealing" blow to our economy that made THEM Rich but impoverished 90% of Americans!
Increase the size of government which Americans only only get 35 cents out of every dollar sent to it. Brilliant!! You really trust your money with either party. You'll be happy to know the administration on may 22, authorized 20 mill to pay a pr firm to promote obamacare for the election. This is the system you promote MORE GOV. yahoo. Sign me up for some more food stamps!!
@Ray E. This is just class warfare.
AMEN!
Whatever was spent was spent in an effort to boost jobs and the economy.
Economists agree that stimulation of the economy is needed.
We don't want to follow the path into recession that England is now following
In contrast Bush simply SQUANDERED Trilions.
A tax cut we didn't need.
Two unpaid wars we didn't need and an unpaid drug plan.
All waste pure and simple
Obama was blocked at every turn byu Republicans or he would have accomplished more and we would be better off
And the alternative? The captain of industry, defender of all actions profitable, and believer of strange stories who boldly predicted that he would reduce unemployment to 6% in four years. Wingers, arise and applaud the great news! Romney promises to tie Obama's achievements! Let the bells ring.
I think Mitt should say...one can run a country like a company ( in fact it is...refer to Ben Franklin and he duly noted that the strength of the US is being the biggest creditor nation at that point in time).
Mitt can turn around this country from a deeper debt.
I think with populism taking shape and most people taking government pay checks with extended benefits have come to a conclusion that it is best to get paid with less hard work and intelligence. I believe in true capitalism and no bail outs and people work and pay for their own
The federal government is not a corporation...it is a form of governance put in place by we the people to serve the need of all those being governed. Frankly it is more like a non-profit organization...it is not in place to serve only the 1%. the government has too many shareholders to try to meet the needs of just one faction...it must meet the needs of the other 99%..
Sorry honey but the last two Presidents with business credentials were dismal flops at the job...Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush.
Obama inherited almost 11 trillion in debt which is the responsibility of sevaral presidents of both parties. That debt stabds at almost 16 trillion today. A serious increase beyond that of any former president. Even those that had 8 years to spend. Obama has done it in less than 4 years.
Here we go again. Another person who has no idea what they are talking about. Get the facts straight! GW Bush inherited a 3 TRILLION dollar surplus from President Bill Clinton. He spent that and created a 3.1 TRILLION Defecit before Obama took office.DO THE HOMEWORK!
Not true. http://my.firedoglake.com/rogershuler/2011/07/27/bush-vs-obama-on-spending-its-no-contest/
Yes...Obama has authorized spending to help alleviate the recession that was a direct result of deregulation, crappy tax policy, and two pointless wars. Obama did not really have a choice here unless letting the economy go into a depression is an option for you.
Here is the major problem I have with the attacks on Obama...they are far right "pulling at straws" that usually are based in fear of Obama and what he represents rather than true policy practices. Obama has lead from the center right even when he held center left views. He simply wants government to support education, health care, and infrastructure. What is wrong with this? What is so bad about a government that invests in equal opportunities for all citizens? How many of us have benefited from public education, public universities, the interstate highway system, policemen and firefighters, and all the other things that tax dollars help to fund. How many of our parents and grand parents are on social security and medicaid. It is easy to complain about his spending (falsely saying he has spent more than other presidents) and it is easy to use this a way to disavow his presidency.
Well put, Michael – thanks!
You gop folks can lie all you like, that is your opinion but everyone else knows where America was in 2008 before President Obama took office... FACTS DONT LIE
Bush gets all the credit for bringing our nation to its collective knees. It will take generations to crawl up from the sink hole Bush created with his invasion of Iraq, and his tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Gosh, they are hardly Americans. They don't live here ,they keep their money in Swiss banks, they don't pay taxes. These corporatists should buy some large island and go live there–where everything can be PRIVATE. Private security, rather than police; private military, rather that our Marines, Navy, AF, and Army; private schools, rather than public schools; build their own roads (they have the cash), build their own water supplies; build their own airports; they have the money. They took it all in October 2008, remember? Paulson and Bush redistributed half the wealth of our nation to the banksters.
I'll stick with the Democratic party with all its flaws until something better evolves. Pres Obama has been hogtied by the repressive Congress who would rather stop all work and starve us all if it will keep Pres Obama out of office.
The Republican Party is completely owned and ruled by corporate money. They also own the Supreme Court. It is all for sale. It is for sale on Fox "News" the Republican's own propaganda machine, no different than Pravda.
With the exception of national defense, when has Obama shown any self-restraint when it comes to spending the money that our children and grandchildren will struggle to pay back? Obama hasn't even shown an interest to have a national budget (what large organization can survive long with NO budget)? He didn't even seek to have a budget passed when he the the Democrats controlled the country for two years (can't blame this one on Bush or the host of people he likes to blame things on).
Obama has no record to run on. That's why he's had many slogans for this campaign . They throw everything at the wall to see what sticks..........
"WTF", "WE CAN'T WAIT", "Repubs / the Party of NO", "WAR ON WOMEN", "FORWARD", " BAIN CAPITAL / Evil Vultures"......
I've got a good one for them......."COW PIE, WE STEPPED IN IT."
Obama has been average at best, and a disaster at worst.
The economy isn't turning around. It's stagnant.... after almost bottoming out. Obama spent over $5T to fix a $1T problem. Seriously, how can anyone consider giving him another chance. He's terrible.
Romney > Obama (by far)
Government spending is at its slowest since the 1950s. Sorry.
Uh, no it's not. You're just another Liberal kool-aid drinker.
Oh my god, yet another person who can't think for themselves. My God, get off your a$$ and do some research instead of listening to FOX and Rush. What is this country coming too when people don't hold their candidate to the statements they make before defending them. Sad, sad... DO THE HOMEWORK!
it is a known fact that the largest deficits were incurred during Republican terms. Those being Ronald Reagan and George W .Bush. We all know Joey (Sponge Bob) never posts facts....
http://scotterb.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/bush-and-obamas-deficits/
From Erza Klein's column: "What it says may shock you. For all the talk about Obama wanting to massively increase government spending, it’s clear that the real drag on the budget these days comes from programs passed during the Bush Administration. The graph does not just include Obama’s spending in his first two years, but projects it outward. The only way to get spending under control is to undo things done during the Bush Administration!"
“Harder work doesn't lead to higher income ...” do what?? Isn’t that why we work?? That’s how I was raised and will raise my kids the same…….………“they want to double down on some of the policies that didn't work” do what?? Then you should quit wasting our money on these so called green companies that keep going bankrupt………green energy is the granddaddy “cow pie of distortion”
Yet another blind idiotic response. Hate Obama all you want, but he is much better than, "I have nothing to offer, I just want to be the president of these United States Romney".
That's the problem with liberals. The only ones that lead are the one that desperately wants to control everyone else’s lives. What was that common term used to describe people like you? Oh ya, Lemming.
It appears you are the hater (of anyone who disagrees with you). People like me do not like the majority of Obama's policies, but we do not hate him. We think he is wrong on many, many fronts – no budget so we can't measure anything this administration does, no real energy policy, but this administration has wasted billions, the regs killing small and large business, Obamacare, no matter if it is shot down or not, is a mess, law suits against this administration will cost us in the hundreds of millions... These are just some of the reasons. You blind followers are fools for supporting what Obama has done to this country.
Here goes genius John again. What would you prefer John a fossil fuel based energy policy ticking away like a time bomb? Do you understand the concept of peak oil? Would you prefer to maintain our current health care system that costs us over double what the European socialized health care system costs it's citizens per capita and does not provide better results? The house budget that would unabashedly exacerbate the income disparity in this country? Allocating even more to the defense budget despite the fact we are ending two wars and already spend as much as the next 17 countries combined? Perhaps you are the one wearing the blinders John.
How has Obama care reduced healthcare costs?
WE HAVE NO ENERGY POLICY NOW!!!
What I would prefer is to be totally independent from people providing us with forigein oil. Japan did it in 12 years. Are they better than us? I do not think so, but in terms of energy the people setting energy plans for Japan are much better than the people setting the plan for this country.
People in WV voted for an convict instead of Obama – why do you think that happened? My guess, the lack of an energy policy and what Obama has done to the coal industry.
You sound more hateful than anyone on here. Obama is a likable fool. He thinks he's the smartest person in any room. You can tell this by the condescending way he speaks to everyone. Sorry, the harder you work, the more success you will have. Will you become Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, probably not (unless you have a killer idea), but you can be successful. Obama is just wrong.
I guess I could point out how he got foreign tuition assistance but you would think I am a birther but I am not. He scammed his way in for that. What about his assignment as president of the Harvard review? His bio said he was born in Kenya. I guess that was a miss-print right? How about the promises as a Senator? How was it that he voted, oh ya Present. How about all those hope and change promises he made during his first presidential campaign? Enough said. I stand by what I said, He is a Con Man.
Russ, I don't believe the Democrats are the people who approve of mandatory vaginal probes for women seeking an abortion. How invasive can you get?
ABCNews:Obama was referring to an analysis released this week by Rex Nutting, a reporter for CBS Market Watch who is also affiliated with the Wall Street Journal. Nutting concluded that Obama has presided over the slowest growth in federal spending in decades.
the truth will set US free. Obama has been a good President.....
@Brandon – No unfortuantely for you John is dead on. You are the one with the blinders on. Time to open your eyes and see this administration for what it is, a pathetic failure.
@John, John, John. God damn your ignorant. How did Japan achieve it's great energy independence. Nuclear power plants. How's that working out for them?
Really Russ now that is pure cow-pie...last time I checked it is the GOP that wants to be in people's bedrooms and wombs.
@ tomclements/
Health care cost have already been cut and over the 20 year period needed to be totally operational it will cut costs even further. Cutting cost is not easy....but it will work. The changes to the drug benefit is already cutting costs.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/03/20/how-health-care-reform-reduces-the-deficit-in-5-not-so-easy-steps.html
Plus it will create jobs.
http://moneyland.time.com/2011/11/21/how-health-care-reform-can-create-jobs-and-cut-costs/
The way I read that statement in context is that he's presenting that as a problem we're facing after the economy collapsed, and one Romney is ignoring in all his 'solutions'. Treating corporations as people, tax cuts for the wealthy, they make it so working harder doesn't lead to higher wages. That's a problem that Romney doesn't see therefore how can he offer solutions.
Hey mor(m)on.........how much exactly was lost on "these green comoanies" again? THINK BIG PICTURE and stop watching Faux "News"
Green Energy is the only solution we have to a sustainable future. Oil is not going to last forever.
Wow, Obama has hooked you. I've been a tree hugger for 30 years. It is unfortunate, but 'green energy' isn't nearly as close as you think. That is why the three green companies that Obama invested OUR money in FAILED and DIED. Utah has enough 'fossil fuel' to keep the USA going for well over 200 years..... I'm sure 'green energy' will be viable by then.
Obama wants to cut fossil fuel cold turkey, before anything is really viable. Note: you do know that he Volt's battery is worse for the environment than gas pollution, right?
Matt – study President Obama's energy plan rather than spouting Fox News (and big oil) talking points. President Obama's administration is drilling more than during the Bush years. He's opened up more offshore leases than Bush. He often speaks of fossil fuels as a bridge to a sustainable energy policy. He even touts the use of "clean coal" something I've never actually been able to identify at a reasonable cost. He's very clearly (and frequently) said we need all forms of energy to satisfy America's energy needs. You right-wingers never really want to talk about the pollution and green-house warming caused by fossil fuels. I suppose that's an "inconvienent truth".
Matt: where do you get that Obama wants to cut fossil fuels cold turkey? we are drilling more oil then ever, more natural gas then ever but the fossil fuel will not last forever and we need to be prepared for it The republicans talk about saving the country for their grandkids but what will they do when all of the fossil fuels are gone and we never bothered to invent alternate sources of energy
Either is so called green energy. It has been subsidized for over 40 years and isn't anywhere close to being able to replace oil. Dumping more money down the sink hole isn't gonna change anything. The size of wind farms to power such same amount of customers is not practical. Spain thought just like you and green energy became a big drain on their economy and drove them over the side. Solar panels are too expensive for most people and must always have some other power back up. So until we can come up with something better we must use oil.
DOMESTIC OIL DRILLING is UP under Obama.
But here is the kicker: OIL is traded on the GLOBAL MARKET and the USA is the leader of the GLOBAL MARKET
Since we all love the FREE MARKET, then we should allow the FREE MARKET to dictate how much drilling is needed.
And what the FREE MARKET says is that increasing domestic oil drilling will not decrease oil prices!
The only real solution to rising energy costs is ALTERNATIVE ENERGY.
And because our planet is becoming way to over polluted, we know that GREEN alternative energy is what is best for economy and environment longevitiy.
There is a reason why nature buried all those fossil fuels.
Really Matt there goes another GOP cow pie....why are other countries expending so much on the race for green energy because it is a lot closer than you hope it is...and they want to get their first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_States
http://writewaycommunications.ca/conservation-and-ecology/were-getting-left-behind-in-renewable-energy-research/
We are already behind China on wind power.
Behind Europe and Japan on high-speed rail.
Most of other countries will be up and running in 5 to 8 years...even those European countries facing a greater debt crisis than we are.
http://www.radioopensource.org/mark-blyth-8-how-germany-gets-to-eat-our-lunch/
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/04/greece-italy-see-solar-as-path-to-economic-stability
GOP = Short sighted DINOs
"Hard work doesn't lead to higher income ..."
You are misreading what Obama stated. Mormon Bishop Mittens stated that YOUR INCOME = YOUR HARD WORK
Obama is saying that many people are working more (harder) but are getting paid less for it.
Secondly, need every company is going to succeed. Just because a Bush funded company like Solyndra failed, does not mean every other green company will.
The US must win and lead in green alternative energy solutions. The reason companies like Solyndra failed is because for 8 years, Bush/GOP were still fixated with BIG OIL. So US green companies are trying to catch to companies in China and Europe.
We need green alternative energy solutions to reduce our reliance on BIG OIL. Doing so will reduce our energy costs. Which will boost our economy.
Simple enough to understand.
Bush funded Solindra? LOL!!!
Just like Obama is not spending 9+ billion a day.
So are we simply to ignore the fact that this country RUNS ON OIL and will for years to come even under the best "green" estimates out of THIS ADMINISTRATION?
Marly, there's no doubt in my mind that if a Repub President was investing in green energy, these opposers would be all for it, This is just another excuse they're using for their blind hatred of our President. Anyone with half a brain realizes that fossil fuels are a finite source of energy and will run out some day. It boggles my mind that these people can whine about their grandchildren's future under Obama but don't want to see that if we don't pursue other means of energy there will not be a country left for the grandchildren. Obama is looking at the big picture and is building for the future – Repubs only look at the here and now and that is why we will never progress under their "leadership".
Solyndra was a started under Bush. Go check your facts.
You still complaining about gov't spending. Please write to Congress to repeal the Bush/GOP policies that gave us a 1.5T BUDGET DEFICIT: unpaid wars, unpaid drug plan for seniors, and unpaid tax cuts
Why do you think OIL prices are skyrocketing? Because there is too much demand for it and there is a limited supply of oil.
We need to figure out an alternative energy source to OIL. Had Bush/GOP started on green energy in 2001 instead of giving billions to their OIL buddies, we might be ahead of China and Europe on alternative green energy technologies.
Now it looks like we will be buying green alternative energy solutions from China too!
@Marley – "Just because a Bush funded company like Solyndra failed, does not mean every other green company will."
Huh? So now your blaming Solyndra on Bush? You really are on drugs. Giving 500 million of TAXPAYER money to Solyndra was OBAMA'S doing not Bush. Get a clue.
Google: Bush Administration Advanced Solyndra Loan Guarantee for Two Years
The Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007.
Those are just the facts.
Regardless, not every company will succeed. But if the US does not try to win and become the leaders in the green alternative energy industry, we will lose to China.
John FYI....more cow pie from the GOP Kool Aid drinkers.
"It is often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed through” by the Obama Administration for political reasons. In fact, the Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007."
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/09/13/317594/timeline-bush-administration-solyndra-loan-guarantee/
You are completely right about the green energy. The energy usage auction just proved your point. Despite no viable alternative to coal plants, the epa has enforced regulations that force the producers to use natural gas to create our electricity in Ky and 13 other states increasing cost from 16/mega watt to 136/mega watt. These huge costs will hit us next year. This is a direct consequence of Obamas war on coal. Green energy has to be be competitive first then it can be viable. Obama is writing checks out of all of our family budgets, that none of us can afford right now....
No, we do not all work hard or harder to make lots more money. I work as hard as I can in order to contribute to society. I love being able to help students and patients. I do not expect to be rich, but do expect a fair living for the hard work I am willing to do.
You may teach your children that "money" is everything, while I will teach my children and grandchildren that what you do and how you treat people is much more important.
These type of statments from Obama are extremely arrogrant. Maybe Obama thinks Re-Election is a given. Obama has a track record now. It isn't anything to brag about. The question is do we want more and more deficit spending or do we want fiscal responsibility in Washington. I wonder what the Captian said as the Titanic was sinking. Let's see, the ship is not sinking, the ship is not sinking, Man the Life Boats !!! It has been said, Obama is in over his head. That is an understatement.
Obama compares Romney's rhetoric to ‘cow pie of distortion’
Mr. Cow Pie "HIMSELF"
You know the "ONE" who ALWAYS tells the "TRUTH"
The "ONE" Who is going to... To... Close GITMO.
The "ONE" Who is going to cut the deficit in half in "HIS" first term
The "ONE" Who will NOT have ANY lobbyists in "HIS" administration
The "ONE" Who was going to veto ALL ear marks
The "ONE" Who makes the sea step back
The "ONE" Who was going to make the economy boom with green jobs
The “ONE” Who mandated no more Red States – Blue States. Just united states.
You must be a big idiot, to not know that all the promises, that Obama made to the people were truncated by the GOP/Tea party Idiots in both houses of rep and Senate. Maybe you are sleeping when the Rutrhurgs voted against all the list you have. You must be some of the Sad idiots who are watching False news daily, change to other sensible stations t.v and radio stations that are not spewing nonsense
Always blaming others for the failures of your god "OBAMA". If the man would have tried to bring the country together things would be different. But from day one he said I won we will do it my way.
He you big idiot... The President had supermajorities in both the House and the Senate for half his term, so don't give me the bs about Tea Party filibusters...
two words other news...two words Al Sharpton...two words spew nonsense....
Ok, so people blocked Obama from doing everything. Then why would anyone vote for him again?
Let me ask you, have you ever had anyone work for you? When they tell you they can't get the job done do you check what they are saying? Do you just leave them in the job knowing they won't get it done?
look in the mirror.Obama for the first two years had a Congress in complete control of the dems with a SUPER MAJORITY!. All the promises were made at the beginning. Pelosi and Reid excludes Republicans from everything and all spending and laws were by Obama and the dems. Simple true FACTS. If everyone was so happy with Obama and the dems in 2010 and so loved everything they did why did voters overwhelming vote Republican in the 2010 off year elections? That doesn't happen based on your distorted view of the facts.
Jmoulder: excuse me? I'm not voting either repug or dem come election. HOWEVER, your bs of Obama claiming my way or the highway is not true. I have NEVER heard him say that. In fact, I have actually seen him do quite the opposite and it's one reason why I am NOT voting for him. Contrast that to McConnell who said that the repugs number one priority is to make sure Obama has only one term. Now just what do YOU think THAT means? It means getting in the way of Obama on everything and not fighting for the people of the US. Sorry if that's a hard pill for you to swallow but there it is:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sen-mcconnell-making-obama-a-one-term-president-is-my-single-most-important-political-goal/
@jb – "But from day one he said I won we will do it my way."
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First of all, he never said this, However, Mitch McConnell did in fact say that he and the Repubs' #1 job was to make President Obama a one term president. Joe Wilson, did in fact, during Obama's first SOTU, yelled that Obama was a "liar". Yes, these Repubs really wanted to work with this President from Day 1 – get a grip!! You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
@FLIndependant – "@jb – "But from day one he said I won we will do it my way."
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First of all, he never said this,"
Uh, yeah he did as a matter of fact. You must have selective amnesia.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make hime drink"
Uh, you can also lead a Liberal to the truth but you can't make him think.
As I recall, the POTUS had complete control of both houses for his first two years... and still failed all of these promises... so yeah, his first term has sucked as far as truth telling goes.
Mr. the blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. The republican obstructionist party of "No" and the filibuster pie hole kings, was, is and will always be the monkey wrench in the mechanics of progress. Period.
Your logical is so illogical. Let us check facts that little thing liberals hate to see. What party controls the Senate? Dems. Who is the majority leader? Reid dem. Who decides if anything gets voted on? Reid dem. Who refuses to discuss or vote on a budget for well over 1,000 days? Reid dem. It isn't all on sided.
Tell cousin Rick Perry I said hello.
" mandated no more Red States " he he he...funniest sh!t I heard all day.
So, Free Man, as a born-and-bred Texan, I consider myself an American first. You refer to the Republic of Texas as your home, but that entity ceased to exist in about 1845.
So, are you homeless, or just un-American?
Why are you capitlizing and quoting the word "one", that doesn't make any grammatical sense? Clearly you are daft
The "ONE" the world has been waiting for.
ABCNews:Obama was referring to an analysis released this week by Rex Nutting, a reporter for CBS Market Watch who is also affiliated with the Wall Street Journal. Nutting concluded that Obama has presided over the slowest growth in federal spending in decades.
the truth will set US free. Obama has been a good President..
Are you dumb enough to believe anything that comes from ABC or CBS? You're daft.
No Ben but the rest of you monkeys fling the crap you are hypnotized with that spews from your make believe Fox news. You eat that crap up with out reading real articles or looking at documented facts.
Obama spent to stop 700,000 jobs a month form going down the toilet or we would be at 25% unemployment thanks to the ranks of repubs!
Obama isn’t spending new money just trying to manage the out of control GOP spending and has cut some of it.
Jobs are coming back and historically and economist (or educated one) will tell you that is the last thing to happen after a recession. No one is going to hire until they are paying overtime and really feel a need. But some are already hiring.
We are respected again all over the world. Not a big deal most people in Red states believe “Nothen wrong with my good ole’ USA don’t need no fancy pants France or no of em’ others”. Well guess what we live in a global economy now and what others do affects your income and my income and the cost of the products we consume.
Stopped on war and now needs to stop another. Oh yeah TWO WARS the GOP thought they could pay for on credit, no was tax, never in history until Bush and Cheney.
Only green energy, hardly he is for more domestic oil which the GOP always wants to by the Saudis oil, hmm no wonder we were so far up their hind ends.
Health care, yep none of you are complaining that your college grads get coverage under you and will be happy when insurance companies can’t discriminate against you. It will pay for it self later because you don’t want to face the facts that the government already spends tons of cash on health care for losers that don’t or can’t insure themselves.
Yeah I will vote for him because he is moving in the correct (not the right) direction and we don’t need a high spending billionaire GOP candidate taking backward again!
Why don't you list all the promises he has kept – the list would be much longer and based on facts. Some of what you listed is ridiculous (like the mandate for no red states/blue states). The others weren't kept (yet) because of Repub/Tea Party obstruction and if you were being honest with yourself you would know that.
The "ONE" Who is going to... To... Close GITMO.
– he tried to close GITMO, but the GOP said "NO"
The "ONE" Who is going to cut the deficit in half in "HIS" first term
– you can't cut spending right away when you are in recession
– 1.5T a year is being added to the federal deficit because of Bush/GOP policies
– because of the DEBT NEGOTIATIONS from last summer, the automatic spending cuts that are going to take place beginning 2013 is going to begin the process of cutting the deficit in half ... so, yes Obama has lived up to this promise
The "ONE" Who will NOT have ANY lobbyists in "HIS" administration
– Obama issued an executive order to limit lobbyists in his administration
– the GOP complained Obama was filling his administration with "inexperience" people because Obama excluded former lobbyists
– folks like Newt and Romney were lobbyists too
The "ONE" Who was going to veto ALL ear marks
– ear marks are a necessary part of democratic negotiations between members of Congress
– you can not get rid of it completely ... the GOP are the biggest offenders of ear marks
The "ONE" Who makes the sea step back
– that actually would be the right-wing Evangelicals
The "ONE" Who was going to make the economy boom with green jobs
– and he has ... more green energy jobs have been created under Obama than Bush
The “ONE” Who mandated no more Red States – Blue States. Just united states.
– and he has ... the problem is that this helps Obama win ... which GOP opposes
@Marley,
"The "ONE" Who is going to... To... Close GITMO.
– he tried to close GITMO, but the GOP said "NO"
Uh, no Gitmo is still open because Obama WANTS it open. He finally realized he had no choice but to keep it open.
"The "ONE" Who is going to cut the deficit in half in "HIS" first term
– you can't cut spending right away when you are in recession
Says who?
– 1.5T a year is being added to the federal deficit because of Bush/GOP policies
Wrong again
– because of the DEBT NEGOTIATIONS from last summer, the automatic spending cuts that are going to take place beginning 2013 is going to begin the process of cutting the deficit in half ... so, yes Obama has lived up to this promise"
Giving Obama credit for something he hasn't done yet? That's a typical Liberal for you.
"The "ONE" Who was going to veto ALL ear marks
– ear marks are a necessary part of democratic negotiations between members of Congress
– you can not get rid of it completely ... the GOP are the biggest offenders of ear marks"
Uh, no they're not necessary. Both parties play the game. If you don't think the Democrats have their hands dirty, you're a fool.
I don't know how anyone can follow this man. His whole adult life’s success has been achieved by conning everyone. One scam after another. Obama is nothing but a flimflam man and only the gullible fall for it and that is very sad considering the position he’s in now.
Excuse me, excuse me, Russ in MD, I think you are talking about Romney. You Republicans must attend the same delusion school of, Create A Panic Through Lies, Sabotage, Obstruct and blame. Yeah, the Chaotic School of Obstruct, point the finger and blame, the other guy who is trying to fix it the mess your boys left behind.
I love how the liberals throw around the word OBSTRUCTION, The Republicans are just following the play book of the democrats.
Exactly, Romney says whatever the people who he's in front of wants to hear. He flips and flops like a fish out of water. Romney did one term as Governor and then they got rid of him. His state was in 47th place in job creation.
He won't release back tax returns. What is he hiding? How did he enrich himself while our troops were in Iraq fighting Bush wars? Hiding money in Cayman Islands. Destroying hard drives as he leaves Governor's office. How big is the Mormon church's hold over Romney? How will they be involved in his policy making? We don't know, because he does not want to. No one is asking. ................And if you dig down deep, you know why.
jsmoulder, if obstruction is the democrat playbook, please quote ONE time a democrat speaker of the house said that their number one priority was to make the republican president a one term president.
Yeah, Russ in MD, people like you, are by far the worst. Hold on to your lies, even after the your ship has capsized. LOL!
Like I said, very sad.
Indeed, Russ, you are very sad. Obama is a superior man to you and Willard in every respect. You just fall for cheap lies, and support people who have no humanity in them.
So, Russ, did you follow GWB for 8 years? How delusional is that? How many promises did he break? You're so delusional that you are willing to elect Dubya's clone, Flip Rob-money. No politician is perfect, but I'd take 4 more years of Obama over 4 more years of George W. Bushwacker.
Romney = Bush. Bush = Disaster. Therefore, Romney = Disaster.
S-Bob,
Can you tell me the state of the economy and why it was that way before BO took office.Do you remember when our tax money was being used to state unnecessary wars and got our service men and women killed.
Now Obama comes into office and wants to use your money to save lifes and help the most vulnerable in these bad economic times u scream socialist but never heard your voice when these same monies were being used to fund wars upon wars.You are the reason why building more schools,hiring more teachers and improving the educational institutions should be a priority.
STOP WATCHING TOO MUCH FAUX NEWS
A "cowpie of distortion" – you gotta love it. Being an old farm girl I think it is a good analogy of Romney's rhetoric and hhis experience. He just kind of wanders around like a cow looking for something he can eat up and then he drops his big old warm smelly bowel movements wherever he goes and wanders off again.
"Cowpie of distortion".. Funny, I though that was a pretty apt description of Obama's entire administration.
He's right hard work doesn't pay well anymore. You can work your fingers to the bone. We have become a country that does not appreciate labor of any kind. The people who get ahead are the money changers. People who push money around.
Romneys 'work' was scooping in on a flailing company, buy them out cheap, fire workers, confiscate workers pensions. Which then had to be bailed out by the government pension guarantee corporation (our tax dollars). Made Romney super rich.
The jobs Romney brags about came from Staples. That was a very early venture stage deal. Romney got out of long before it got to its current size.
Bunny, can you provides some actual verifiable statistics on these comment or are you trying to be like your leader by putting a bunch of hear-say comment hoping that you can con somebody into believing it.
Ha, Russ, YOU are asking others for verifiable statistics??? Only a few lines above you were saying that Obama achieved everything in his life by conning others...Do you have no shame?
Here Russ, I'll give you a quote from Fox news.
Former Reagan budget director David Stockman went off message on Fox News while commenting about Mitt Romney's business experience.
Said Stockman: "I don't think that Mitt Romney can legitimately say that he learned anything about how to create jobs in the LBO business. The LBO business is about how to strip cash out of old, long-in-the-tooth companies and how to make short-term profits..........All the jobs that he talks about came from Staples. That was a very early venture stage deal. That, you know they got out of long before it got to its current size."
CEO Mitt Romney acquired AMPAD for 5 million dollars. The Chronicle-Tribune newspaper of Marion Indiana reported that Romney fired ALL, that's right, every single AMPAD employee and took the workers' pension money; Then Romney paid creditors .002 on the dollar, and sold the company's assets for 100 MILLION dollars.
Name one thing the president did to help workers or start jobs. rip on the other guy when you can not build your guy up. Romey is a get bussness guy do some true looking
Tell that to the immigrant workers who leave their countries south of us, make money to send to their families back home, have become skilled at just about every labor trade in the us, work circles around americans without complaining, deeply appreciate their employers, and now are becoming the employers and running their own small businesses. All because of HARD WORK. The President is saying things that are completelly UnAmerican and fostering a change that is detrimental to your children. Since when do we teach our children to only work hard at something, only if you are going to be highly compensated. Dangerous Talk...Morally unsound principle....
The real difference between President Obam Chewing Gum and Cow Chewing Grass is that Cow looks more Intelligent and Presidential.
The difference between George W. Bush and Mitt Romney is...well, there ain't no difference.
Romney + repuks = round 3 of bold-faced LIES. This man is telling American's everything he thinks they want to hear, which means HE HAS NO PLAN to help average American's et. al.
Obama is to take from everyone else. Work hard and I give it to someone else is his plan. Pay your fare share 47% of people nothing. It is time for everyone to pay something even if it is small
As if Obama does?
At least President Obama's plan is exactly where Romney plans to have the country in 2016....6% unemployment. LOL!
Obviously Romney doesn't plan to do anything but cut taxes and ship more jobs overseas....that is all he knows.
Obama's plan for our country's future: Raise taxes.
( that's not a plan )
Obama slams Romney's comments about the debt: A 'cow pie of distortion'
Interesting that Obama should use the term "Cow Pie". That sums up the 3+ years of the Obamination of America...
I don't know about you, but Obama in 3.5 years has created more jobs and economic growth than Bush/GOP did in 8 years!
Bush/GOP: 8M+ jobs lossed
Obama: 4M+ jobs created
On top of that, Obama got Osama! And he is ending those stupid unpaid wars too.
@Marley _ Wrong again. Obama will end his first (and hopefully only) term with a net jobs LOSS. His record on jobs is totally indefensible.
Do you ever get tired of being this wrong?
No Ben is wrong...."In the third year of Bush’s first term (2003) the economy created four hundred thousand (400,000) private sector jobs. In contrast, President Obama in the third year of his first term created almost one and a half MILLION (1,400,000) jobs. Obama created ONE MILLION more private sector jobs than President George W. Bush."
http://www.politicususa.com/obama-jobs-bush.html
I have never hated a President more than I do this one. I know hate is a strong word but this man is ruining this Country by his race and class wars!
Mike, are you a birther?
He may be a birther. He's surely an irrational idiot racist.
Bush and Cheney are 2 "men" a thinking person could justifiably hate, but I'll be Mikey thinks they're just sweet as pie. Or, cow pie, anyway.
Hate, bad energy, Love good energy. Hence the reason why the gop are heading for a defeat this fall. Hate gets you nowhere. Look at history and maybe change your thinking... That was free advise.
Making President Obama's re-election more certain now...
My hope is that Obama stays above the fray and takes the high road. Listen, Romney's been taking shots at Obama for a long time now. He has every right to defend himself from these attacks. However, I don't think people want to see the President going on the offensive with the same sort of attacks. Leave that to everyone else in the DNC and the super PACs. I hold our President to the high standard of his office, and I expect him to rise above the hate the GOP is spreading like a cancer.
@Brian – " I hold our President to the high standard of his office, and I expect him to rise above the hate the GOP is spreading like a cancer."
Apparently your boy Obama hasn't gotten the message. He's the most divisive president EVER. And he's earned that title. Who's really spreading the cancer here?
You have a lot of growing up to do. The people in this country are so sad. Just because you disagree with a president doesn't mean that you must "hate" him. Supposedly, we all have America's best interests in mind - we just disagree about how to achieve them.
Well, I can see why racists would hate this President.
BRIAN- IS AN IDIOT...IF THE PRESIDENT COULD NOT GET A SINGLE THING PASSED DUE TO GOP BLOCKING EVERYTHING AND THE FACT THAT THEY DID NOT WANT A BLACK MAN IN OFFICE HOW COULD THINGS GET DONE.WHERE WAS THE GOP WHEN BUSH /CHENEY WAS SPENDING MONEY ON A LOT OF NOTHING AND THE WARS ARE ANOTHER THING. 8 YEARS OF WRONG DOING BY GOP IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME TO STRAIGHTEN OUT BY THIS PRESIDENT AND DEMS..IF EVERYBODY VOTE DEM AND GAIN CONTROL OF SENATE AND HOUSE TO GET SOMETHING PASSED..VOTE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA 2012 AND DEMS IN EVERY STATE..
Idiot Mike Lake Orion Michigan . . . Another delusional "blind in one eye and can't see out of the other while clinging to the great republican lie. Where were you when your than president George W. Bush crashed the system with two unpaid for wars, one illegal and the other, a carrot chase at best. and the great give away tax breaks for the rich, oops, excuse me, (while I laugh) "Job Creators" who, like Romney shipped and created American jobs overseas . . . China!
Yeah these race and class wars are taking so many casualties! Oh wait, no they aren't.
Translation...Mike is a staunch member of the KKK Nazi Party.
What exactly has President Obama done to you that promotes so much hate? You aren't fooling anyone Mike – you hate him for his color and anything he says or does you twist to fit your blind hatred of the man. He's human like any of us and is doing an extremely good job of navigating that very stormy waters he encountered. I just wish you people would just try to give the man a little credit – you might actually feel good about yourself.
I swear Obama is such a total BOOB.
WE MUST dump him or Biden and add Hillary to our ticket, or it is hopeless.
Nice try! We'll put Hillary in 2016..thank you! (for ANOTHER Democratic 8 year term!)
Romneys lastest attempt at defining an education policy is ""cowpie of distortion". The teachers that Romney talked to, on camera, basicly told him where to go with his Ideas .
I have not heard why you would want him back. I have not heard what he has done in is life to help people, jobs or with the poeples money
Romney's "education" plan is NOTHING MORE than following the script set down by the Koch Brothers. You can see that plan, in action, with Governor Walker and the Wisconsin school system. That plan: Defund public schools and thereby eliminate the teacher's union. Fund Private (mostly Catholic) schools and schools that support Republicans. Parents will receive a "voucher"...Does that sound familiar?...as in "replacing Medicare with a voucher"? When public schools have been eliminated or at least been so beaten down they can't compete, people will be forced to PAY for their kids education. The "vouchers" will cover only PART of the costs. The parents will have to come up with the rest. Great way, isn't it, for the Rich to have THEIR schools and the Poor to have theirs?
Yeah, don't you just love all these voucher programs the Repubs want so badly. How many government workers will be needed to implement and maintain all these new programs. Guess anything the Repubs want aren't going to cost any money, right. What delusion!!
In case you all forgot why we voted for the President in the first place:
Feb. 23, 2009. President Obama
"My administration came into office one month ago...But I want to be very clear...We cannot, and will not, sustain deficits like these without end. Contrary to the prevailing wisdom in Washington these past few years, we cannot simply spend as we please and defer the consequences to the next budget, the next administration, or the next generation...And that's why today I'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we've long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay - and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control."
This was when he thought he might actually have a Congress that would work with him. He may have been a bit naieve then but he's learned his lesson. Give him a second term and a Dem Congress and this will happen.
He had that for 2-full years...which is why we sort of got Obamacare...remember...
We can't fix the rest of the economy unless health care is fixed.
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2012/january/debt-deficit-denial-why-we-must-fix-us-health-care
I like how Obama thinks he's in any position to say who is qualified to be President. Being a CEO of huge company requires more leadership than Obama had shown in his lifetime before he became President. Community organizing doesn't count. I don't think he wants to go down the road of who is qualified because his only qualifications came from on the job training. Oh by the way if you're a plumber don't even think you could be President because Joe Biden has already decided you're not qualified either.
I no longer believe Obama's lies.
I will never believe GOP lies.
I don't understand how Republican posters can call the president unintelligent. While I understand being at odds with his policy, the man is the smartest sitting president we have had in decades. It's like calling Bush an intellectual - which is, of course, completely wrong.
Stop arguing; you are all correct – to a certain extent.
You can bicker all day about the details, but let us look at the totality.
Romney = Feudalism
Obama = Smells like a Republican sometimes
It is once again shaping up to be "The lesser of two evils"
This is just a suggestion: Libertarian Gary Johnson - 2012 ?
Church, your voice of reason just went into the crapper. Period.
Obama has big ears.Its easier for his buddy to grad a hold of.
What we need to remember is that the POTUS Obama got elected because the U.S. was in a ression and going into a depression real fast because the Bush administration destroyed the country with it's policies period.President Obama is cleaning up the mess and putting his policies in place to protect the people of this country especally the working & middle class and the poor from ever haveing to go throught this ever again.This can NOT be done over night like we would like it to.The Republicans do NOT like the policies and want them to return like they were befor so they can continue to devide the financial rule of makeing it Only the Rich & the Poor and keeping the middle class dow just enough so they always pay and stay right where they want them to.Mr Romney is a Wallstreet Master and his only conviction and priority is to make big bucks for himself first and for his Wallstreet bussiness partners at any and all expences.That is NOT what we need to lead this country or represent this country period.The President is doing a great job at protecting the working class, middle class & the poor.
Romney has made a living out of lying.
First at Bain, then in Mass., now as the republican candidate.
Mitt Romney is running for Potus to help establish "the Kingdom of God" ( he is promised his talents, abilities and everything that he is to the church. Romney and his campaign regard any speech about his faith "a lose, lose situation"
I think it must be the same cow pie that Obama has been passing around for the past 6 years.
Obama shouldn't try and defend himself on this one. The facts are the facts. For spending more than any president in history, he sure hasn't accomplished much.
So Barry is hammering Romney again. Why not tell us his economic accomplishments and what he plans to do in the future. Passing a budget so we can see his spending plans for the future would help.
Mr. President, call Mittens what Newt called him, a Liar.
It's a shame a great man like Obama has to even stoop to talking about/retorting Romney and his Fox News made up reality. It's like a Albert Einstein having to debate a 10 year old over Newton's Laws.
Obama has no answers . He touts raising taxes as an answer to our county's huge problems. That solves nothing.
A real Leader rolls up his sleeves, works with the other side and doesn't give up until a compromise is made and things get resolved.
At what point does one shake the dust off of his feet, Let the Republican dust fall and land where it may. Obama try to reach across the isle only to have his hands smacked away. anoe12005 what else do you have. I am not a democrat but this republican party and leadership, are by far, the worst ever.
Obama never tried to work with Republicans from the beginning. In 2009, he told John McCain during the healthcare debacle ....."John, the election is over, I WON!"
Obama also said the "Republicans can sit in the back seat."
anoel, do you have selective memory? Do you at all remember McConnell saying "Our, repubs, one goal is to make President Obama a one term president. No, I did not think you would remember that.
To MaryM,
With all due respect to your opinion, any Political Party wants the other Party out of power.
Do you remember how the Democrats tried to get rid of Bush in 04? Then after Bush won, all they did was bad mouth him. He did nothing right according to the Left wingers. Ever since, they act as if Bush is an evil person. Bush did more to eradicate HIV/ AIDS in Africa than any other human on the planet. He gets no credit.
anoel, my point is, that the repubs did NOT even try to work with President Obama. Do you remember when Boehner and President had a 4 trillion dollar deal to lower the deficit? Teapublicans in the house said NO. The party of NO has got to go.
That is why congress approval rating is below 20%.
MaryM,
you must mean the Democrat "Senate of No" , .....Harry Reid doesn't have a budget in over 3 years and won't vote on any Bills.
aneol, You know President Obama will be re-elected and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
You mean cause of all his real world expeirence as a community organizer and half a term in senate? Or maybe you mean his tenure as editor of the Princeton Law Review where he managed to be the ONLY editor to never get published? Or maybe you mean his tenure as a state senator where he voted "present" on a bill to stop sex shops from opening near schools or churches? Yeah, I see what you mean. He's such a great guy,
Real classy, Mr. President. But, what do you expect from a community organizer from Chicago. Every time he opens his mouth something stupid, unintelligent or classless falls out.
Romney is hopeless and I will have to vote for Obama, But Obama should talk, he is the most extreme liar in history. His entire campaign was about "change" and then he made his cabinet from Bush and Clinton monsters. No other president ever has made so little change.
It has come to the point where the AMERICAN people are tired of seeing this BS artist face all over the internet and the news. TIME FOR CHANGE AND A NEW PRESIDENT. One that knows how to lead not one that know how to speak out of both sides of his mouth
But, with Rob-money, you don't get a change. You get George Bush all over again. No sane person would want that.
Obama knows how to lead, America problem is, like it always have been, learning how to follow a black man. period. Who do you have that is more intelligent then Barack. Romney? Teehee! (Check your American history, when there is a first black or minority to do anything, he, she must be on hundred times smarter than their white dents preprocessor and work trice as hard) Case and point, one of many, Jackie Robinson.
Please stop with the black garbage!!! Obama was elected by far more whites than blacks but now he has a record and people will be voting on that not his charisma or color!
Lool "look", we gave the do nothing, community organizing, party line voting, half term junior senator from illinois 4 years of OJT and what we got was four more trillion in debt and he couldn't even get a budget passed with a packed house AND senate. Amateur hour is over. Time for someone who has actually governed to govern.
so a hundred times smarter = handing over a sixth of our economy to the highly efficient government so we can all get that "VA" hospital experience, spending our way out of a recession, and letting the talibans go on their own recognizance cause "hey, they're good for it", open mike night at the Kremlin? I have to admit he's pretty bright on figuring out how to cook the books on unemployment number but I'm not sure that's the kind of smart we need right now.
@lookwhoistalking – You must be the most undeducated person on this board.
No Ben you are. Go back to Fox News, Class is still in session. Fool! Now sit down and learn a little something about yourself.
Saboth, Nice analogy.
Look at Mitt. He is always surrounded by a sea of white people. No disrespect to white people. He never associates with black people or Hispanic (though is a closet Mexican). They are beneath him.
He never associates with poor white trash. They are beneath him as well. Take note Tea Party People.
The only people that Mitt respects are the ones that has the same or more wealth than himself (over $300 million).
if Mitt becomes President, the Tea Party will have a field day writing Jim Crow type laws. H e l l, they have already sneaked that "stand your ground law" in under the radar. And Romney won't give a d a m n. He will say what he is still saying to this day, "it's a State Rights issue".
Cory Booker don't you ever tell the truth again!!!!!!
Vote soros, van jones and obama OUT!!!!!
In USA Today they had a front page article on what it costs each of us if the Congress actually used REAL accounting principles. If I recall it correctly we each would have to fork over $45,000 in taxes a year to pay the national debt. It was a long article and I did not get the chance to read it all. But 2 basic points are that Congress uses a accountiing system that consists of whatever accounting rules they can come up with and those rules have nothing to do with reality. Second the debt is so crushing we would just be working to pay it off with no money to live on. Who is to blame? Everyone. But this liberal idea you can spend your way out of debt is illogical and dumb. Look at Ford. They went on a ausietery program and it has paid off big time. So those of you who are too use to your gov't freebies this spending and wanting gov't solve everything needs to end now.
So, you're willing to give up Social Secuity and Medicare and all the other "socialist" programs that keep society together in this country? They tried your austerity in Europe and you see where that has gotten them. I'm sorry, but any President (Dem or Repub) would have done a stimulus to prevent us going over the cliff. Obama had no other choice. He was successful in preventing us from going into a Depression – why is it so hard for you people to admit that? What did you expect from this man?
So, the country compares Obama's rhetoric to ‘out right lies’
ghags17, Where can we find such a politician?
And please reply intelligently.
Church,
At this point I can't afford another 4 MFN years of this man BS. Do you know what FUGLY is? I would rather chew off my left arm then have him in office.
ghags, are you a birther?
no Mary,
I just call it the way I see it. I have no time for BS from either party. I care about my family and where this administration is taking the once proud NATION. I don't need government handouts
I'm sure the truth stings...but look at the idiot right-wing posters on this site...they too only want to post cow pies of distortion. Like Romney's doozy about having unemployment at 6% by 2016..which is exactly where the CBO and other agencies say it will be with President Obama's policies.
Frankly, we know it could have been better with some middle ground compromise on the part of the Rethugliklan morons. We can see the exact policies Romney would use at work in Scott Walker's Wisconsin, where Walker gave $2.3 billion in tax cuts to corporations and unemployment keeps rising...proving yet again trickle down doesn't work.
Obama made the comment because factually, Romney is so full of it.
Capitalism is greed. Stock value > workforce employment. Welcome to Mitt Romney doctrine.
Castro and Kim Jong Un concur
The desire to profit from ones labor is greed? Barney teach all your economy classes?
TOTALLY WASTED TAX PAYER DOLLARS and it just continues and continues with NO REPORTING BY THE MEDIA.......question is the media just as BOUGHT by large corp money as CONGRESS is BOUGHT by large corp money? YES!
We are PAYING UNEMPLOYMENT TO college degreed, experienced U.S. citizens that CONGRESS is displacing with work visas!
America's highest-skilled workers are being displaced from their professions by employment-based visas:
•H-1b: Congress has authorized employers to sponsor and hire foreign workers regardless of whether qualified Americans are available to fill the positions. Employers can legally force Americans to train their foreign H-1b replacements as a condition of receiving a severance package.
•L-1: Congress has authorized employers to bring foreign workers into the U.S. for one year while continuing to pay them their foreign wage level.
•PERM: Congress has authorized employers to sponsor foreign workers for green cards by simply running a few classified ads and then to find any reason possible to disqualify all American applicants.
OBAMA'S ANSWER TO ALL OUR PROBLEMS : "RAISE TAXES ON THE WEALTHY" ( THAT STRATEGY IS A LOSER )
Again, check your history concerning taxes on when and on who taxes were first levied on, that's right , the rich, because they benefitted the most and during the war, the general public were ask to do their fair share to assist their country at war time. Educate yourselves. Make the selfless sacrifice for your country. Everyone should be honored to pay more taxes to preserve America's standard of living. Period. In these troubling times, reach a hand back and give your fallen countryman a hand up. Period.
The " rich " are already paying the lions share of taxes. There's too much govt, waste and fraud . Let them clean it up before they get even more of our money. The govt. is not a good steward of our tax dollrs.
@ anoel2005, Again, check your history concerning taxes on when and on who taxes were first levied on, that's right , the rich, because they benefitted the most and during the war, the general public were ask to do their fair share to assist their country at war time. Educate yourselves. Make the selfless sacrifice for your country. Everyone should be honored to pay more taxes to preserve America's standard of living. Period. In these troubling times, reach a hand back and give your fallen countryman a hand up. Period.
The economy & jobs grew best BEFORE the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans argument about tax killing jobs is one of those cow pies.
A few statistics would help and while you are at it show what happened when taxes were high and the fools is congress spent and spent. Based on the good times produced by the tax cuts
What kind of person votes against their own interests? How dumb do you have to be? GET REAL!
So I guess Bush/GOP strategy of cutting taxes for the RICH worked when they tried it between 2001 and 2008, huh?
13 out of 14 RECESSIONS in US history have occurred under a GOP administration – including the GREAT DEPRESSION and GREAT RECESSION.
That is no coincidence!
GOP-onomics = RECESSIONS
Go get an educated in economics to understand when and where tax cuts are useful.
Also GOOGLE: Bush's Own Economic Advisers Thought Tax Cuts were Terrible Idea
The Bush Tax Cuts were so bad that they had to pass a second bill in 2003 to fix the first bill in 2001 because the Bush Tax Cuts were DE-stimulating the economy!
Why do you think Bush/GOP wanted to go to war with IRAQ? Because it was STIMULUS SPENDING.
@Marley – "Why do you think Bush/GOP wanted to go to war with IRAQ? Because it was STIMULUS SPENDING."
I see Marley's a member of the tin foil hat society. Seriously can you really be that clueless?
Marley, I believe you to have the worst case of "Bush Derangement Syndrome" I have ever seen. If we believe your nonsense, then one should conclude that Obama has got to go, because nothing is ever his fault. And because nothing is ever his fault, he's not doing anything and has got to go.
I think you are one sick puppy.
jean2009, Thanks for the new word.
Someone needs to put these new words on Urbandictionary:
Rethugliklan
Rethugs
Repugnants
Repugnicans
Demagogs
Libtards
So Obama knows what cowpie is; good for him. That should qualify him for another term.
Obama campigning on the tax payer dime. Congrats on finding one "green" company stimulus money went to that has not gone belly up. A company by the way making "wind blades" that many states won't use. More waste. He should have spent the money repairing roads and bridges.
"He should have spent the money repairing roads & bridges" – Why don't you tell the Repubs in Congress this – they are the ones preventing an infrastructure bill. As far as the green energy companies, there are some that were successful. Solyndra was one of many that just happened to fail
Hey, the Prez says cowpie, but when I use it in my comments, I get moderated. How can I post my opinion in this over regulated forum?
Please liberals you can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear !!!!!!! If you persist in doing everything but talk about the Obama record which even he hesitates to talk about what more does a intelligent person need to say its time to move on!!! We need to keep doing that until we get a leader!!!! Obama was the worst prepared president in history and his record shows it time to cut our losses and move on from a leadership by division!
Stop listening to Fox lies, bring proof of statement. The Republican MO, Keep repeating a lie enough times and people like you will start to believe them. The Republican pied piper of lies has tangled you and many like you in it hypnotic horn of song, that only rats of bigotry, deceit, lies and hate can hear.
Actually, if you live in a swing state you would see many Obama ads that highlight his accomplishments – they are very positive, optimistic and factual ads. Especially love the one where they are no words, just music as they show the chart that show how jobs were lost before his election then how they've increased every month over the past couple of years.
What a classy guy. Seriously, who doesn't want a President that speaks like a petulant 8 year old?
The United States needs to join the rest of the industrialized countries in health care coverage for it's citizens, rather than lagging SO FAR BEHIND!
Canada is a successful example to follow! Canada has a THRVING economy, health care coverage for it's citizens, and a TRIPLE A CREDIT RATING!
UNITED STATES IS LAGGING BEHIND.
Really sorry but those industrial nations are failing because of their overblown promises. Until Obama care for the most part we had a private health system with the ability for everyone to be treated. Costs were rising but they will explode under Obama care and guess who hey will take money from to pay the bill- Sorry to break it to the middle class but you are the target as you have the only money that can be tapped at the amounts required. Sure tap the wealthy and it will still fall on the middle class and reduce their wealth and security
So Obama knows what cowpie is; good for him. That should qualify him for another term. Post that, CNN.
John:
I think she doth protest too much.
This is news? So Obama knows what cowpie is; good for him. That should qualify him for another term. Post that, CNN.
I think Obama has mucked up this nation. And yes, mucked up are valid words in Australia with no hint of vulgarity. Post it.
Guess all of the conservatives must have come out of their comas after George Bush left office.
Is cow pie similiar to cheese cake?
Not unless you eat in the barnyard.
This is news? Is CNN trying too hard to keep Obama in the news? So Obama knows what cowpie is; good for him. That should qualify him for another term. Post that, CNN.
I think this is an additional occasion for the Swedes to Award Obama another Nobel Prize, this time in science.
"Obama compares Romney's rhetoric to ‘cow pie of distortion?!" No, no Mr. Divisive-in-Chief, YOU are the one that IS ALWAYS promoting "cow pies of distortion" rhetoric. YOU are an esteemed master at IT!!!
America is on to you. Therefore, you sSHOULD demonstrate a little more respect for the American voters. No more smoke and mirrors, PLEASE!!!
YES, Mr. Obama, I am a life-long Democrat.
America, please research the issues, lies and rhetoric as much as possible, and educate your friends and family.
America needs voters to be REALLY informed in 2012.
Those of you supporting obama in his efforts to destroy Capitalism and our military superiority,
I thank you for re-awakening the sleeping giant!!!!!
Vote comrades soros, van jones and obama!!!
maximusvad, "Capitalism is greed. Stock value > workforce employment. Welcome to Mitt Romney doctrine."
Thank you. I have been saying all along that Republicanism incites runaway Capitalism - good for the rich but bad for the poor and middle class who are turned into slaves.
Capitalism works when people are willing to work hard for what they have. That's what made America great.
Have you ignored what European Socialism has done to workers? The Socialist Govts. make promises they can't keep because, they are bankrupt. They can't pay back their loans and now the citizens are rioting in the streets.
The top 1% owns 43% of the nation's financial assets. The bottom 80% owns 7%. What are the CHANCES of the bottom 80% succeeding as "Capitalists" when they have so little capital?
Capitalism gives you the opportunity to make for yourself what you want. Fortunes had to be made somewhere and there is opportunity out there for everyone. This type of thought that only the rich can make it is absolutely not true. The problem is that many people have that entitlement attitude. Last I checked it was the entrepreneurs who built this country into what it is.
That old story is REALLY getting "old". The FACT is the PROBABILITY moving up in our social class structure
Church,
Question for you. Who do you think is getting RICH when government runs your life???
When Obama took office he was only worth $1.5 million looks like it has taken a great jump into or close to $8 million.
The same can be said about all politician ( they can get away with insider trading and everything else we the public would go to jail for) So lets be careful of what we chose for our future
Obama has really mucked us up. Mucked up are valid words, by the way, for being dragged through the mud. So post it, CNN.
Before the 2008 campaign racism was rarely spoken. I work with and befriended my co-workers with no thought to the race or religion (though I did have apprehensions to muslins that I am not proud of). I am not a supporter of gay rights but did feel, to each their own, as long as it didn't interfere with my way of living. Since the 2008 campaign, racism is the highest I have seen in my lifetime, gays are screaming that they should have more rights than non gay people and religion is being attacked on every front. Now tell me what Obama did that was so great for this country.
Wonderful statement and someone who says what a lot of us feel!!! This president is a good politican but uses Chicago tactics with the only intent is reelection! Look up the Rev. Wright interview on U tube for a real eye opener on how he operates!
the European Socialists gave Obama a Nobel Peace Prize in 09 for doing NOTHING.
That should have raised a red flag for us U.S. citizens. Obama's ideology mirrors theirs.
The American "free market" system is DEAD (for the poor and middle classes). The sooner the federal government becomes the "employer of last resort" and STOPS subsidizing "free market" enterprises with subsidies and tax breaks, the sooner things will get better. The 10 years of Bush tax cuts for the Rich have been a disaster for the economy of this country, the poor, and the "middle class". America's "free market" system produced wealth for the lower classes ONLY during the period following WWII. The 150 years PRIOR to WWII were a disaster for the poor and middle classes. The top 1% ALWAYS lived in luxury. The bottom 99% ALWAYS lived in abject poverty. It's time to eliminate or, at least, "temper" "free market" enterprises with a little competition from state owned corporations. We can no longer afford to pay "ransom" to the super Rich and big corporations to produce jobs. They take our money and laugh in our face. ENOUGH!
"Obama's ideology mirrors theirs." There is a huge gap between "Marxist" socialism and the sensible "American Progressive" socialism of the 1930s. Ours is about public schools and hospitals, things we all consider our basic rights today; theirs is about taking control of the workplaces and ports and getting the unions ready for a General Strike. It's like a big "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt when you say stuff like that; nothing Obama's done has resembled European socialism at all.
Main stream america can not accept a black leader period. If there is a divid, look in the mirror, people like you are causing it. No matter what this president say or do, your answer and many like you, is no. Even before you hear it, no, even if it came from you, if he says it, your answer is no.
Your argument is falling on deaf ears because millions of White people voted for Obama in 08. They wanted him to succeed or they would have voted for McCain.
Many of my friends voted for Obama but he failed them. He failed to be a LEADER and work with the other side to find solutions. He thought he could play Chicago strong arm politics.
His skin color has nothing to do with it. Quit pulling out the race card. It's the man himself. Wuldn't like him if he was white.
Why did they vote for him? Do you think only liberals voted for him? If that was the case he would have lost. I see this as a racist comment, but it leans left so I guess you can get away with it. Kind of like the woman running for gov. in MA. She said she is 1/32nd Indian – she said she knows this because her grandmother had high cheek bones. Can you imagine if Rush said something like "I know Warren is an Indian because I saw her mother and she has high cheek bones". He would be boycotted off the air...
Two words for you that destroys your nonsense:
"Colin Powell"
Cindy and anoel2005, all white folks do not think like you two, People are smart enough to vote for their better interest based on content of character and not color of skin. but you two are in denial, when you consider Romney as your leader. Bawahahahahahahahahah! Period.
Anoel2005, Racist thinking and mind set, Barack Obama is the president of these United States of America, you said he and I quote, "He failed to work with them" The republican leadership, said that their mission was to see that he is a one term president. They needed to work with him, he is the man in charge . . . No? The majority voted for his leadership. Get a clue . . . please.
@Lookwhoistalking – You are nothing but an ignorant race baiter. Grow a brain and stop being a water-carrier for this failed administration.
"He thought he could play Chicago strong arm politics." Look at the total lack of cooperation from the Party of No, and look at how much he's accomplished over their fat dead bodies; I'd say he's played it pretty well.
Ben-over and follow me, first wipe that brown spot off your noise, it smell like Romney's dingle-berry's. get away from me, you stink!
@ Ben-over and follow me, first wipe that brown spot off your nose, it smell like Romney's dingle-berry's. get away from me, you stink!
"(though I did have apprehensions to muslins that I am not proud of)" Please punch yourself in the face.
Obama's campaign slogan should be ....."Cow Pie Forward"
i believe that Slick Mitty is better describe as a Blizzard of Bulls..t.
Green energy is not yet competitively viable. The energy usage auction just proved this point. Despite no alternative to coal plants, the epa has enforced regulations that force the producers to use natural gas to create our electricity in Ky and 13 other states increasing cost from 16/mega watt to 136/mega watt. These huge costs will hit us next year. This is a direct consequence of Obam as war on coal. Green energy has to be be competitive first then it can be viable. Oba ma is writing checks out of all of our family budgets, that none of us can afford right now....
I am not suggesting "European Socialism" (whatever that is).
I am suggesting controlled capitalism instead of runaway Capitalism.
The only fools who use a term like "European Socialism"are those who have never been outside the borders of the U.S.
In your mind, how does that look?
Church,
We have the SEC and other government agencies who are paid to watchdog and monitor! If they are failing, why do we still have them? The only thing I can think of is the left hates the term "smaller government!
yeah. its not that there are known rules to the investment game, and that people can circumvent those rules. Why even try to punish them if they might get away with it. might as well let them do whatever they want and bubble crash, bubble, crash some more.
dave
@dave,
So are you suggesting INSTEAD of making what already exists work, we just add on another layer or 2 of beaucracy??
American progressive socialism is what got us public schools and hospitals and roads. There was a huge clash in the 1930s between American socialism and Marxist socialism, which was used by the corporations to make most voters think ALL socialists were Marxists. Since socialism was pretty well tainted after that, most progressives joined the moderate Democratic Party. Look up Eugene Debs if you need details; at the time he might have made a good president.
Green energy is not yet competitively viable. The energy usage auction just proved this point. Despite no alternative to coal plants, the e pa has enforced regulations that force the producers to use natural gas to create our electricity in Ky and 13 other states increasing cost from 16/mega watt to 136/mega watt. These huge costs will hit us next year. This is a direct consequence of Obam as war on coal. Green energy has to be be competitive first then it can be viable. Oba ma is writing checks out of all of our family budgets, that none of us can afford right now....
"...cow pie of distortion."
Pot. Kettle. Black.
"...cow pie of distortion."
Pot Kettle. Black.
No one wants to hear the truth about the gov. war on coal and the family budget buster energy cost increases for next year.
This comes from a guy (refuse to call him my President) who has sent billions of taxpayer moneys overseas to companies. This is a man dividing this Country rather than bringing all of us together for one common goal. By dividing us this is the only way he can win re-election. He sits on the sidelines while blaming others for his failed policies. What a fine example to our children. Just blame someone else!
People like you, not excepting the blame for sabotaging his so called failed policy, like causing our credit rating to fall and making a none issue like raising the debt ceiling a major catastrophe and debacle. Short memory much?
Both parties were responsible for our rating falling. This administration does not have a budget. That is their fault. We are also getting into another similar budget battle shortly, that will be their fault for allowing the can to be kicked down the road yet again. It is a total lack of leadership. True leaders don't blame others and other things for their failures.
@ John, "It is a total lack of leadership. True leaders don't blame others and other things for their failures". You are so right, So tell that to your republican pimps, Stop blaming This President for their (the Republicans) failed policies, That's why we are here in this sad state of affair. Let President Obama finish pulling us out of deep waters. Period.
Well , the truth is the truth.....the GOP blame Obama , and it is obvious , we are still digging out of the Bush yrs whether you like that answer or not. And going back to what got us in this mess is not the answer, again you do not have to like the answer , as you do not have to like the President . Be glad you live in such a place , and congrats to your booming auto industry in that state! I think you can thank someone other than Romney or Bush for that one!
"This comes from a guy (refuse to call him my President)" You are a disloyal traitor, comrade. Slip on over the border to Canada and stay. Even that drunken chimp "Dubya" was worthy of respect when he was our president. You have a child's understanding of the world.
The problem with controlled Capitalism is : Who should we trust to control it?
Politicians - Yeah, right! Professional pickpockets.
Capitalists - I don't think so.
What I don't get, among many things, is how this potus can stand in front of millions of people and disparage and belittle the credentials and qualifications of others when all he has to fall back on is..."Community Organizer" He may be smart, but my 19 year old nephew is smarter. My nephew is not as articulate as the prez, but then he doesn't have a speech writer or a Teleprompter. We all know intelligent people. Organizer is a "good" thing, but may I remind you that each and every one of us are "Organizers" We Organize our time our tools our wardrobes our garages. We organize every aspect of our lives every day.Moms are the BEST Organizers. So exactly what is it that makes Obama more qualified to be potus than a man who is more multifaceted and experienced with a proven record as a problem solver or my nephew for that matter?
What I don't get is why people like you overlook the fact that Obama has been our President for over 3 1/2 years now! It doesn't matter what he did prior because he knows the ins & outs of being the leader of our country and Commander in Chief now. Why would we want to go back to someone with the same ideas that got us into the mess in the first place and will surely get us into another war. We already know Romney has most of the old Bush people planned for his administration – Why would any sane person want that????
"So exactly what is it that makes Obama more qualified to be potus than a man who is more multifaceted and experienced with a proven record as a problem solver or my nephew for that matter?"
Nobody cares what your nephew thinks; he's a nobody with absolutely no support. Mitt has the grudging and reluctant public support of a lot of people who privately will not vote for him. Obama was swept into office by a tide of public support. Leaders lead and are followed.
Nice to see that Romney and his spokespeople are not above lying and ignoring who really is at fault for not cutting the deficit in half. I can't wait for the presidential debates. Romney will go down in flames with his easy to demonstrate lies.
How rich! I'll take Romney's alleged "cow pies" any day over Obama's in-you-face, straight-out-lies BULL S***. More slime from Axel-rot and the Obama Un-American camp.
What has Obama lied about exactly? Any promises that he didn't fulfill were because the Repubs didn't work with him on them. Also, if you weren't an Obama supporter in '08, then why would you want his proposals to go through. You see, most of you contradict yourselves by saying you don't like him because he broke his promises but in reality you never liked him so you should be happy that he didnt' fulfill promises.
"! I'll take Romney's alleged "cow pies" any day " I 'm sure they will be served at his concession speech Election Day after he loses big to Obama. You can have a big slice.
anoel2005 "Obama's campaign slogan should be ..."Cow Pie Forward", either that or ... "Bend Forward."
Don't forget that YOU must apply your own Vaseline, TOO!!!
Donald Trump would make a good VP for Romney, They both like to "FIRE" people.
You do need to get the weeds out of the garden, or they will take it over....
Weeds are taking over the gardens...
Mary,
Last checked when Obama gave Stimulus money to the auto industry, they closed dealerships and FIRED employee's.
When Obama downsized the MILITARY he fired close to 200,000 officers who returned from WARS oversea's. When Solyndra failed its tax payers money that we lost and people were fired ALL ON OBAMA'S watch and we can go on other failed pet projects that his administration lost money or got people fired
"When Solyndra failed its tax payers money that we lost and people were fired ALL ON OBAMA'S watch and we can go on other failed pet projects " You DO realize Solyndra was a Bush project two years old when Obama was elected, and that it failed because China directly competed with it? All the other FOXbots have hushed about it; didn't you get the memo? Also, Romney has to use a teleprompter, so hush about that as well. This week it's birth certificates again. OK, carry on.
I guess I should have put (joke) after the comment.
I am sorry, but until the Obama admin owns up to its own failures they got nothing. Bain was successful 80% of the time in helping businesses and creating jobs. Far better than anything this administration has done. President Obama and his team need to find something else because this is a very weak argument and anyone who buys into it needs to do the research themselves. If Bain was such a bad company they would have been gone long ago.
Obama created millions (4 million jobs and counting) Romney, was and is a corporate raider, user of the Government tax loop holes to further line his pockets while hiding his spoils in bank accounts abroad. Wake the h.e.l.l up already.
Why don't you go watch "Pretty Woman" again so youcan keep on believing that.
So what is Obama's attack on Romney? Bull's S**t?
Obama's more accurate than Mitt because he's less desperate. Come on, Mitt ROMNEY? President? It's a big joke.
So let me get this straight; the republicans and Romney are saying that Obama hasn't cleaned up the massive economic destruction the GOP caused fast enough and they can do better by doing exactly what they did to cause all that destruction? These people are sociopaths, delusional, cheats and crooks.
It sure is crazy!! If they could only see beyond their hatred they might realize how irrational they are!
Once he's re-elected, the smart ones will get behind him and push for economic recovery. They'll at least have a chance against Hillary . . .
The most interesting thing about all these posts is the fact that none of the libs have listed anything this administration has actually done. We see a bunch of hate from them because they do not like people who disagree and we see tons of people blaming Bush (the dem part line, Obama did it again yesterday).
They have not done anything but lie and make things worse and I truly believe he has made race relations worse in this country by his unveiled partiality toward African-Americans. There should be no partiality, we are first and formost ALL AMERICANS!!
Cindy where do you live, under a boulder? Obama is not trying to be partial to any race in particular, especially the black race . . . get a clue, Please!
My opinion lookwhoistalking
Cindy, you're kidding right? His mother & maternal grandparents were white. Most people in his administration are white. How about we look at ourselves and the media to see why we are so divided since electing our first black president. Only those that want to be divided are I'm afraid.
John, unless we want to cut & paste the list of accomplishments, it is way too long to post. Why don't you try doing some research to find out what that list consists of – it's not hard to find. Oh, that's right, you want to remain willfully ignorant.
Actually I don't hate you nasty conservatives; I feel sorry for you. You are as easily fooled as Germans in the 1930s, and you hate us so much you'd round us up and put us in camps if you weren't so outnumbered and old. How about you actually read one of those Bibles you wave around?
Obama is going beyond fuzzy math and is now to downright lying. It is not hard to see how much debt Obama has piled up and while he can try and blame others fact is he and the democrats controlled the house, the senate and the white house and did nothing to trim spending only added trillions to it.
Meanwhile, the Repub House passed a budget for Defense that went beyond what the Pentagon wanted – go figure!!
john...Go hike your leg on the GOP tree. Better yet, get off this blog and go to FOX where your cronies are. You just spew hatred towards anyone that doesnt believe
the GOP lies. You're opinion is like an A**hole, everybody has one. I really think you're Cheney undercover. OBAMA will win in 2012 whether you like it or not. Deal with the reality of it!
Obama – all these words and not one example of anything? All this hate from you and you I am hateful? You just called me a liar, A**hole and you say I am the hater? LOL, LOL, LOL
Obama will win? Just like all those dems won in the last elections? Just like they are going to take the Wisconson in the upcoming recall election?
John, where are your facts to support your Fox lies?
If you can provide me what you think I said is a lie I will educate you.
John, politics is for adults. this is not a football game, or a wrestling match, though that is exactly what people like you make it into by being so "partisanly" competitive. twist my words if you want, tell me im no better for namecalling you and tell me that its typical "lib" behavior. ive heard it from the other "people" on this site and why should i even bat an eye.
John, if you don't find the sneers you post 'hateful,' then you are either stupid or a sociopath. Pick one. Over and over some Conzi comes on here and calls liberals a bunch of names, makes some third-grade joke about the president's name, and then some threats about what will happen after the election, and then ends "because after all, WE are the GOOD GUYS." Get over it; you are turning into comic-book villains. "Soon I will be invincible, and then I will crush your cities. Ah, ha ha ha!" Get some help for that paranoia.
Obama's deficiencies are too great for the American people to allow him to continue....
Unemployment high, s& p downgrade, Gitmo open, no viable plan for "illegals" , another $5.7 trillion added debt, lobbyists still in White House, the most partisan President ever.....
Thanks to the Republican none leadership . . . standing on the sideline routing for the other team, Gloom, Doom and Despair.
"Standing on the sidelines" ? take a look at Obama's voteing record while he was a Senator if you want an example of "standing on the sidelines". A true leader would leave those people on the sidelines and get the job done. Obama blames everyone for everything. It is just a fact. You libs can call it hate if you want to feel better about Obama.
That's right OBAMA2012, all the Micky mouses and John Elways are allready lining up at the polls. I bet my mother-in-law has her absenty ballet ready to vote for Obama. Right from the grave.
Right...
Take a look at the Wisconson election. It should provide us all with a very good idea of what people are thinking.
Bain will be around providing jobs long after Obama is gone, but rest assured Obama's debt will be around for many a rears....We all make mistakes and this guy has made far more than his share...paying back favors.and having large parties..
Why don't you who accuse the President of "spending out of control", admit your REAL objection? You claim to dislike EVERYTHING he has done, simply because of the color of his skin! The racism and hipocracy in this country is so thick right now, you can cut it with a chain saw!
My take on the current situation may be considered way off base, but I live and was born here, so, I will take advantage of Mr. Obama's quest for a fair chance to comment.
I believe that I have the right to make the choices about my and those that are my family. We are a small government. We do not make decisions concerning finances lightly, there is just so much to go around. Some are left waiting for their turn at the wealth or find ways to accomplish their goals with emotional backing from those that are working with them to attain a better life creating the wealth on their own. Harder way to go, greater satisfaction when achieved.WE realize when decisions don't go our way, rather than batter each other for blame to be placed, we catalog what assets we have now, do not repeat the same err and make new decisions toward our goal using assets we have or work to attain. We realize that we can and will make mistakes and have no one to blame but ourselves. We do not live with anymore debt than our income dictates and live within or at times less than what we can afford.
It is now Mr. Obama's presidency. When I read on theses forums that "Bush did it", I say it doesn't matter. No president comes to the table with a clean slate. A president inherits what they get, good or bad. I was born when I was born and my ancestors left me with what I got. Crying that grandpa was a poor money manager does not change a thing. I inherited it. It is now up to me to show what I can do for my generations to follow with what I got. History of the family will not blame grandpa if I leave less than he did. Incredible that I feel the president believes there is a way to make every decision a correct decision as long as we let the government decide. Blue ribbons for everyone in a game well played with no score needed. Competition?
Neither party is working for the American people. They are only out to benefit themselves. Obama is the biggest jerk of them all.
No Cindy, you are the "Biggest Jerk" Standing, next to Romney.
Again, my opinion which I am entitled to lookwhoistalking
Cindy, ignore him. I feel sorry for him and these other libs that can't discuss issues. They are the true haters..
I feel so stupid after supporting this guy. Not only has he failed to live up to his promises (Troops are still overseas, economy still sucks, still no work for those who want and need it), but he is taking credit for the improved Vet benefits which is actually the work of Senator Webb of VA. He is still blaming everything on the previous admin and refuses to face up to the things he has done wrong. He panders to every special group and has become the most devisive POTUS in memory.
OBAMA is the COW PIE of DISTORTION.
@ Old salt, you never support President Obama . . . you know better. Romney is calling you, he need you to park his car.
All this lip serivice Mitt offers up, puts him in the sam class as a used car salesman, he will say anything to get the win, even flip flop like he stated he can get the unemployment rate down to 4 % then he CHANGED his mind now he promised to get it down to 6% LMAO Atleast we know what Obama is about, Mitt is a transparent question mark. I dont try to convince people that Barack is the best man to lead the country forward, the fact of the matter is people will vote for who they like and its nothing Obama or Mitt can say to sway them in either direction. I trully believe Mitt is corrupt, what kind of person spends 100k of STATE MONEY to erase all emails and records of his administration?? PLEASE EXPLAIN THE LOGIC OF DOING THAT IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE!!
☆This is your daily reminder☆ Mittler Romney hasn't released his tax returns, his birth certificate or his foreign policy
Consumer Confidence is at a four-year high. Only people not better off now than 4 years ago: Mitt and bin Laden.
Most people don't care. The only clowns that do care are just going to say, "I hate you because you were successful". The real issue should be "who is the most qualified to get our country back on track" - answer: Romney.
(did you ask for John Kerry's tax returns? Clinton's? Gore's?.... hypocrite.
Careful! Using the word "high" and then saying what you did??? Cheech, is that you?
I never seen this country as united as it was after the 9/11 attacks. It really made me feel proud. The flag was flying high and nobody in the world would deny our freedoms ever again. 8 short years later it started. Our country is more divided than it was during the civil war. It’s not just republican against democrat. That is the least of it. Today it is White against back, gay against strait, religion against atheist women against men and the poor and middle class against the successful and rich. Do you know why it's like this? It's because our current (not our past) administration in the white house has made it that way to better his own agenda to get re-elected. We need to restore the pride that we had for our country. We need to become one people again. Vote out this divider and chief.
Great post!!!!!
Listen to you Russ in MD . . . You are most definitely in denial. Closet racist much? Face it, Obama is brilliant and you and people like you, just cannot except the truth about Obama, because, you will have to rethink you take on all black people, You are probably saying to yourself, if there are more black people like this president, where dose that leave me and people like me. I know, don't worry, if you work hard and play by the rules, you too can make it.
Another racist heard from. You libs haven't learned dropping the race card for no apparent reason makes you a racist. This may have worked in the past, but now everyone see you for what you are.
I was raised in a small town that had one black family in it and went to school with one of their children. I thought he was the coolest kid in school. I watched my dad invite an actual hobo into our home and fed him a good meal and talk religion. I did 20 years in the military and worked side by side with every race and ethnic group in the world. I like black people, white people, Asian people, and even praised middle eastern people for their response and passion when we lost one of our aircraft in the middle east. Don't tell me I am racist just because I made a real observation of the way this country was and how it is today.
Obviously " your truth" and the truth are not the same.
@Russ in MD,
When the left cannot discuss or argue, the weapon of choice is the race card! It is played in the hopes of shutting someone down! Somebody please let them know the cards are worn out and they need a new deck, please! Funny thing, Russ, they play the race card on me too and I'm black!!! Anyway, Thank you for your service!
Russ, don't take it personal. The libs are going crazy right now reading the handwriting on the wall. It will get worse. That, added with this administration putting deflections out there (birth control, gay marriage, Martin/Zimmerman, etc. to sway people away from what they have done to this country, is going to make this election the worst in history, IMO. We are already seeing many of the libs spewing out the race card because they are at a dead end with this administrations accomplishments over the past 3.5 years.
Unbelievable, I am not racist, I knew a black guy once! I even served in the army with the blacks. was Black their last name? LOL! This is too easy. Trying to prove that you are not a racist, makes you all the more likely to be a racist. Funny.
I hope I'm around, in 20 or 30 years, when "White" Americans will be in the minority. Hispanics, ALONE
I hope I'm around, in 20 or 30 years, when "White" Americans will be in the minority. Hispanics, ALONE, will be over 50% of the voting population! Tell us, then, how it feels to be in the minority...will you? Tell us how it feels to have the "shoe on the other foot"?
The country will always be divided because of things like this in your comments if you listen close to the president he is trying to unite that's what masons teach! We all are on the same level in Gods eye! Their has been a division since 1776!
The movement against unrestrained "free market-ism" started long before Obama got involved. He's just following the flow of upset American's against an outrageously slanted economic advantage for the super Rich. Reagan STARTED the class war by promoting cheap exports from Japan (while Japan blocked OUR exports). It continued with Bush I and Bush II, and "industrial strength" weakening of our economic manufacturing base with cheap imports.
Damn well said!
If you don't think they country was divided by Bush's 2nd term, then you must have been living in a cave – maybe you were with Bin Laden?? Our country was deeply divided over the Iraq War – do you remember Bush saying "You're either with us or against us"? Guess that kind of talk isn't divisive, right? Get a clue.
Capitalism is a socialist program for the rich!(15% tax rate) I guess Romney can put those elevators in his garage with a tax rate like that! He also can go on another trip with his dog on top of his car. Then while the dog vomit he can hold him down and cut his hair off while calling him gay or weak!
Obama can't campaign on what he's done well because there isn't anything. Dear Leader has raised the debt more in three years than any other president, including Bush, did in eight years. And now, he protests when he gets called on it. Time for Obama to stop blaming others for his problems and step up to the plate and convince people why they should vote for him. Except he can't – there's not enough positive to shine up all the cowpies he's left in America.
What can Romney campaign on?
Ummm Russ the country has always been divided and always will be! The reason for it we say majority and minority instead of saying American!
Obama is a cow pie! The biggest liar snake oil hypocrite sales man we have ever known and the absolute worst president in American history. The only President to declare war on his own people.
Just come out of your coma after Bush left office? GET REAL!!!!!
You said it! Amen to that. And don't forget the most arrogant one.
@ wade, that would be the republican leadership. They declared war on all of America, just to get one black guy. Sad, very, very sad. 🙁
@S.Positive and @Marley, S Bob and John are 100 percent correct. I'm not a conservative. I'm not a republican, yet. Seriously thinking of changing. And that's only because I've been following the issues. Did you know that Obama passed a law that says Any terrorist, foreign or domestic can be locked away indefinitely with out a trial? What does that mean and why should it matter? Lets say I call the police and label you a domestic terrorist .... Or better yet... Let's say that I'm ranting on the internet about how I don't like our current president. The secret service, (SS) , come along and label Me a domestic terrorist and lock me up for what I was saying. I"M NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN.
They. The people in charge now have this power. Sounds crazy right? "Oh, he's crazy for thinking that." But, Does this sound famiilar? It's been done before. Or how about law number 2?
Let's say that I'm protesting something, anything, with a sign outside a hotel that the president is in. I'm on the adjacent street corner, or, really any street corner. The secret service Now has the power to say that where I'm standing is a "No Free Speech Zone." What does that mean??? That means that I have to move Or I go to jail.
I know that this article is on the economy. But it's bigger than that.
YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.
Or you simply don't care because You want "The war on women to stop". "The war on health care" "The war on anything" "You must be racist if you don't like the President" .
Come people WAKE UP. And remember. Silence Is Consent.
I seem to remember many incidents where people were strong-armed out of Bush gatherings for just some lowly thing like wearing an anti-war or anti-Bush T-shirt. Not to mention how anyone that was against the war during that time was labeled "anti-American" and a "traitor". I've yet to see anyone pulled out of a Obama gathering just because they have a different opinion. Where were you people during the Bush/Cheney years – oh, that's right, Faux News never showed you these things.
Wade, go bait on Fox, we are finish here. LOL!
I challenge you EVERY DAY to back up what you say about Fox and provide us with ONE lie you have heard. It has been several weeks now and you have provided nothing. Not that this surprises anyone.
John, you back it up, turn around and let the door hit you where Romney's dog should have bit ya!
Every posted comment on here reminds me of the garbage talk coming out of Washington. How can we blame Congress or the President for their behavior when the American public is just as messed up?. No party is to blame for the poor economy. We are to blame. We should never have had our own personal spending as out of control as it was and we should never have been taking so many loans from the banks. If we had all practiced financial responsibility there would have been no money for the banks to blunder with. Everyone with a credit card is to blame for our current situation.
The Republican party of Bush should be penalized at LEAST one more election cycle for bringing economic nuclear winter to the United States the last time they were handed the keys to the kingdom. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. What have Republicans done to justify our blind faith in them, not to do the same thing they did to us before?
Not too bad of an idea! So you're gonna vote independent, right? That would be the ONLY way your idea makes sense!
No. Voting for an independent as a "statement vote" is a waste. Of the two choices, Obama will cause less harm than the Republican party. We're steel reeling from the damage inflicted by the Republicans the last go around. We cannot afford to pay for their brand of politics, it costs the average person too much and the rich absolutely nothing.
@RIGHTWING-NUTS write: "We don't need more class warfare ... from Obama"
Typical right-wing rhetoric. Wakeup right-wing nuts!
If you claim Obama is engaging in so called *class warfare* then you need to wakeup and realize that class warefare has been here in the US for decades already!
Why you think real incomes for the middle class has flattened but for the RICH they have exponentially increased?
Why do you think the GOP is called the party of OLD WHITE PEOPLE?
Why do you think the GOP is against equal rights for women, people of color, and gays?
Why do you to be a GOP candidate, you must be a Christian?
If that isn't class warefare, race warefare, gender warfare, lifestyle warfare, or religion warfare, then really ... you have not argument against Obama based on your "class warfare" accusations.
It is called POLITICS in a DEMOCRACY. Politicians cater their messages to the people who vote for them.
Stop watching MSDNC. It seems like you are hurt...
wake up. just wake up, man. Once you are a bit older, you realize that this is how the U.S works. Liberals represent the majority of people, but they're all too stupid to vote. Republicans are rich whites, religious whites (they get a few non-whites who are rich/religious) but they VOTE. and they win, mostly due to the religious thing. (and race, in this case, i know that's inflammatory, but if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitCNN)
Absolutely right, and if Romney was President, the 99% would be a 3rd world nation. He is full of greed and an arrogant bully and liar. People who are ignorant will vote for Romney, and it will be against their best interests.
Obama's a moron. Harder work doesn't lead to higher income? Who knew.
i gets really frustrating trying to explaine things to the right wing nut jobs that post. They live in fox la la land. The president gave a good speach and was right on. Romney is no job creator and is basically full of cowpie. Why the repos would elect this flip flopper is beyond me except he may be easy to control by the big behind the scenes guys. He is just a rich guy that wants the title of president . This will validate the church also. Obama 2012
judy...are you paying any attention to your candidate as you call Romney a "flip-flopper"? Take a look at what Mr O. said about the GOP and the distractions that they threw at him when he wanted to focus on the issue of the day...The Economy. Now consider Mr. O and the distractions he's throwing about so we don't focus on his lame economic situation. I'd say he is the ultimate flip-flopper> I've got a multitude of quotes and dates of those quotes of when Mr O was on the campaign trail in '08 ...but I type toooo slow and will not tackle that enormous task on the blogs. Do your homework and Maybe you will be enlightened rather than regurgitate what you heard from Chris Matthews, Ed Shultz or some other left leaning troll.
Let's just wait until they debate, can't wait til mitt stick both feet in his mouth.
Will Romney allow Obama to use his tele-prompter during the debates; like Newt offered?
Guess Romney never uses a teleprompter, hey? What is your obsession with the teleprompter thing anyway? Obama didn't one in his debates with McCain and guess who won???
I can't wait either for the debates, President Obama will mop the floor with Romney.
Please go away Mr. President....The rhetoric is nothing more than BS and you are beginning to sound quite desperate....please go away!
President Obama will win the election in NOV 2012.
Is he running for something other than president?
I love how "Faux" News channel lovers fight back against hate of their station by claiming that "the liberal channel" is MSNBC. Wrong. PBS is ranked as statistically the highest watched news channel for people who most frequently vote democrat. Get your facts straight before you begin an argument you can't even win.
71 percent of the Obama Energy Department’s grants and loans went to “individuals who were bundlers, members of Obama’s National Finance Committee, or large donors to the Democratic Party.” Collectively, these Obama cronies raised $457,834 for his campaign, and they were in turn approved for grants or loans of nearly $11.35 billion.
– Washington Post
In the days of George Washington, America’s greatest challenge was forming a cohesive state without the experience and administrative wisdom of an engrained monarchy. George Washington was successful in laying the groundwork that helped the nation to overcome this challenge. About 80 years later, the nation’s greatest challenge was building a modern economy that was not based on human bondage. At a terrific cost, Abraham Lincoln came along and lived up to this challenge. The real challenge that the United States now faces is curving the exponential growth trajectory of our profligate fiscal spending. Any president that has the will to confront and successfully beat this challenge will earn the supremacy of a George Washington or of an Abraham Lincoln.
If Romney gets elected he might run this company like a business. If so the deficit and the national debt will decrease, and according to Obama the government will take care of American workers less. On the other hand, if Obama gets elected we can probably expect both the deficit and the national debt to keep increasing (that has been what he has been doing his entire presidency). Which is worse- our national debt decreasing or more care of American workers? I can remind you that Romney has promised to cut the unemployment rate down to 6% (which is backed by research saying that that is where the unemployment rate is heading anyway). I would say that Romney is a better bet than a debt hungry Obama.
Sorry. Sentence 4 is meant to say "Which is better...."
Obama took money from Bain Capital as campaign funds and wont give it back FYI. You can vote for Bain Capital or you can vote for the Bane of our Capitol. The choice is yours. Obamas record is nothing to be proud of. Record unemployment, record high gas prices, record # of people on food stamps, his record of pandering to the Trayvon Martin crowd and gays, no budget passed on record for 3 years etc etc. We need new government thats for sure.
Only thing Obama has done since he went to Washington as Senator is run for office, he and the democrats pass a health care act they did not even know what was in it remember "we need to pass it to know what is in it" and now as more info comes out of what is in it and it's cost to the public fewer and fewer like it even those who voted for it.
Its ok John the average voter is too dumb to realize that Obama already put them thousands of dollars in debt personally come 2014 when they have to start paying for Obamacare out of their own wallets, pockets and bank accounts.
that was a figure of speech, relating to the fact that the bill was too long to read in the window of time they had for debate. Do you understand how politics work? Or how many people have no means of paying for their medical expenses in this country? I live in MA and can tell you, i am glad I live in a reasonable state where we have public healthcare, AND gay marriage
Dave I dont think you understand the rest of the country isnt as wealthy as Massachusetts and doesnt have the money to pay for Obamacare. When you dont have the money you OWE it to the IRS come 2014 and they will abscond with millions of peoples tax refunds!!!
No reponse huh to the greatest theft this nation may ever see?
Save a billionaire.
Vote Republican.
Save the Nanny State
Vote for Obama
After all Government knows best. LOL
Romney knows about Nanny's
John,
Talking about 'nice party-line guy'...your guy Mitt refuses to talk outside Fox...he talks about implementing policy...WELL where is the policy...give us something to react to...he's an empty-suit...the sad part of your life is you were brought up in a GOP home and now you are so indoctrinated you can't see past your own ignorance to see the past directly influences the present and future. In true TGOP fashion you would rather write off the Bush years as if they never happened...sadly if you turned the channel, you would know those two unfunded (unfounded) wars are your to bear.
Every leading economist has stated you need to spend your way out of a recession, the governments ability or inability to react either helps the economy grow or it sinks. All one has to do is look at models being used in Europe and you will see which one are working and which one are not. Britain has gone back into recession do to their belief that cutting government spending and jobs was the way to go. What did we learn, higher unemployment, less spending = less demand. And if you think regulation doesn't work all you have to do is look to the North to our neighbors in Canada. Their government say fit to place limits on their banks, requiring them to use more of their own money for risk and keep a higher proportion of their income on hand to fight off economic downturns. During the height of the recession Canadian banks did not require bailouts because of the regulations put in place by their government. Had our banks had even a small percentage of this foresight we might have been able to weather the storm. But no, TGOP want less government regulation...we got what we paid for.
Good luck in the next 4 years should the TGOP get control of the White House...maybe, just maybe...when we start bleeding 700,000 jobs from the economy again, you might be lucky to keep your job...
Obama is not doing good enough a job thats pretty obvious. Lets give the next guy a chance.
Idk, job availability is pretty normal here in MA. I pay pretty low taxes, and my family took advantage of MassHealth at one point to avoid massive medical bills. The "recession" seems kind of like a sham from my point of view, but I know things are not the same everywhere.
MA is a very wealthy place its where Kennedys come from. Its not middle america or doing poorly (thank Romney I guess huh)?
Seriously? Your next guy ranked 47th in job creation...AND you think he's policies, to which he has not yet stated...there is a difference between saying he has policy and actually tabling a policy...are going to make it better?
He's claim of standing up to the Chinese is laughable...all he's done is ship jobs off-shore all his life...even Bains own statement said they were in the business of generating REVENUE for their investors...not JOBS...
Why don't you move to Canada? – I left there 20 years ago because it is hopeless.
Failure...yup...you really moved up in the world...you leaving Canada...was probably good for Canada...all we inherited was another neo-con whiner...
In the end i see Mr. Obama staying in office. I just dont think Mitts got the olives to win. Though im no supporter of the Grand Ole Party i think they should have rallied behind Mr. Santorum. You can just kinda tell who has the stuff 2 b Pres. I think Ricks got it. Obama had it. Mitt struggles for it. Im the most informed but i do my reading and i watch Senate hearings and the likes alot..you should check part of one out..some are boring..others those guys act like school children..throwing accusations to and fro...i am surprised by how these guys act sometimes..and the decision making is almost...seeded in some alternate reality...like these guys live in a box..in my humble opinion as a diligent follower of goings on...we have stepped away from our Founding Fathers guide. Snaky congressmen worming around Constitutional Law.
Obama chastized SCotUS for defending the 1st Amendment during a State of the Union Speech. Then Obama and Reid threatened to Violate the 14th Amendment, causing S&P to lower America's credit worthiness. In June SCotUS will likely strike down obamacare as a civil rights violation.
I wish my friends on the right would deal with facts...
The Federal debt was $0 when Bush took office in 2001. It was close to 11 trillion when Obama took office. Government spending increased every year under Bush. It has been roughly flat since Obama took office. Stop trying to put Obama in your hate anything a Democrat does boxes by ignoring the facts. It doesn't help the discussion.
Obama took Bush $4.7 trillion dollar war debt and turned it into a $15 trillion dollar debt! FACT
Actually, Bush took us to 2 wars, didn't fund either of them, and then gave tax cuts which further expanded the deficit. By the time Obama walked in, the economy was in a downtail spiral. Much like an aircraft carrier, once it gets going, you can't stop it on a dime and turn. But in 3 years, we did turn this around!
you mean the deficit was 0. the debt has never been 0.
Obama's debt is the big cow pie. Obama is the king of distortion. He distorts his record, the economy, green energy... Obama is the real cow pie.
Oh, BO. So UN-presidential. Cow pie indeed. Leftylibdems still enthralled with your chutpah, your "fast becoming irksome" blaming and irresponsible attitude, negative and hyperbolic oratory, and empty promise. BO's such a hoot and hypocrite...as if HE was in any way prepared to be POTUS in 2008. And still isn't really. What schmuck he spins. As if successful venture capital and private equity experience doesn't translate into skills to apprise a business, read financial statements, evaluate the state of the enterprise, make decisions on the viability and strategies to improve a company and return them to profitability. These skills are the essence of reallocating capital and effort to grow jobs and improve the economy. BO sounds extremely ignorant or else is playing his audience (leftylibdems) as fools. You leftylibdems aren't really fools are you?
Nobody's going for Mitt. He's a loser.
Bush destroyed our economy with tax breaks and declaring war. Romney wants more tax breaks and raise the defense budget. How is this not going to destroy our economy again?
For the record and all of you claiming that President Obama has spent more than the prior...here is a fact check.
Bush from 2002-2005 spent 7.3
Bush 2006-2009 spent 8.1
President Obama 2010-2013 spent 1.4
Get your facts straight.
Bush wasn't president in 2009 and obama didn't use the Bush budget, he went way over that. That's why the new report showing obozo spending less than Bush is worth the paper it's printed on.
The Cow Pies of Distortion. I think I saw them open for Grand Funk Railroad at Crisler Arena.
Obama sold us all out to the multi-billion dollar insurance industry that claimed they were losing money. What a terrible lie we were forced to believe by this man and his minions. That the richest people in the world banks, car companies and insurance companies needed a hand out and we got nearly nothing in return but future debts to pay out of pocket.
Obama – You are now resorting to bald face lies in your "analysis of spending". Fortunately, the House of Represantives and the Senate have partially shackled your check writing escapades, if it were not for them – we would probably be 20 Trillion in debt by now. Your recent TV Ads are also decieving, praying on those that don't pay attention to the details – graphs that show 4 Million jobs created under your tenure with no inclusion of jobs lost, and quality of jobs. Evidently, you are still praying for the uninformed to vote for you! And that is just Wrong!
BARACK OBAMA TOOK CANADIAN JOBAND HE IS AN ASSHOLE WHO ONLY CARES ABOUT OBAMA BEING PRESIDENT. TIME FOR A BIG CHANGE.
I have a message for those who argue that President Obama has not turned the economy around. The budget of the United States is NOT the Economy. At the ime of the inauguration, the Stock Market had dropped by almost 50%, businesses were shedding employees at a rate of 750,000 per month and the Gross Domestic Product had just declined by 8% in the previous fiscal quarter. The Bush Administration had just blackmailed Congress into passing unprecedented legislation to prevent a complete collapse of the National and World economies. The National Debt had increased from $5.7T to over $14T and we were engaged in two disastrous wars. Almost every one was expecting the coming of the Second Great Depression.
Fast forward to today. The Stock Market has recovered to the Clinton era, corporate profits are at record levels, the private sector has been adding jobs for nearly two years instead of laying off employees, manufacturing jobs are on the increase and the GDP has been growing every quarter since the Obama stimulus took hold. We ended one war and are working out of the second. The only metric that is still lagging is the unemployment rate, which is always the last to recover after a recesssion. In short, the Economy is booming, but the benefits are not being shared with all, largely thanks to the Republican "throw the country under the bus and blame Obama" strategy. By all means vote for Romney and a rubber stamp Congress. Let them bring back the Bush-Cheney strategy of cutting taxes for their base (the haves and have mores), increase military spending, invade another country over WMD and reduce regulations so that Wall Street can once again be Las Vegas. That worked so well......
Obviously from California – your statemnts are why your state has gone over the cliff. Mr. Brown will hit you with more tax, does that make you feel any better. I don't want my country to go the way of your mis-managed state!
Don't be so quick to blame Republicans. I'm glad that Obama's gotten troops out of Iraq and is getting them out of Afghanistan. We made our point in giving a warning to terrorists, but we'll never get rid of terrorists. Putting this aside however, who's to say that the economic policies and the economic recovery would'nt have happened without Bush or Obama. They may have happened without them. I would have to say that Bush did not cause the housing market crash and the subsequent economic depression. I think it would've happened if Obama would've been there, and Obama would've enacted similar policies. So Obama hasn't done anything glorious or wonderful, but he has kept our national debt increasing his entire presidency hasn't he (despite economic recovery)? Why don't you vote for someone else besides Obama (a debt lover)?
Well said, thank you.
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT 2012
A couple of points. Obama is responsible for ALL of the debt during his administration. Bush took 8 years to increase the debt by 4.7T from 5.9T to 10.7T , Obama has gone from 10.7T to 15.1T as of he end of 2011. An increase of 41.0%.
As far as the stock market is concerned, if you followed it's history you would know that no matter who he President is the market comes roaring back in 18 to 24 months.
Regarding the unemployment rate and the overall economy, The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United States expanded 2.20 percent in the first quarter of 2012 over the previous quarter. Historically, from 1947 until 2012, the United States GDP Growth Rate averaged 3.2500 Percent. Current projections are even more anemic.
Many sectors of the economy are still suffering and the prognosis is not good..
As quoted in the past. "Obama is going to beat Romney like drum".
Not from what I hear and my vote! I think the dems are nervous as well they should be. What other reason to character assassinate! They surely can't run on record accomplishments.
Biden was in Charlotte NC yesterday for a fund raiser. The cost was $10,000.00 a plate for a lunch!!! How's that 1% thing working for ya??? These guys got to go in November. Obama lies and Biden swears to it. But, the media made the mistake of posting numbers and anyone with a 5th grade education can do the math and see the "cow patty" Obama is throwing!!!
It's NOT just Bush II that hurt the poor and working class. It's Ronnie Ray-Gun and his "open borders" import plan with Japan (while THEY locked US out!). It's Bush I, for CONTINUING Reagan's "job export...union busting" trade policies. Bush II just gave us the "same-old, same-old". However, Bush II, DID drive the final stake into the hearts of the poor and middle classes by exporting our wealth and tax generating manufacturing sector to China. Trying to "reverse" that while the Rich control the Congress through their Republican representatives, is just about impossible.
Obama once again shows his ignorance of how business works. How does he think a venture capital company makes money on it's investments. The goal is to grow the businesses invested in. If this is successful more jobs are typically created. Bain was successful 80% of the time during Romney's tenure there. To be sure they were unable to rescue every business they invested in but 80% is outstanding.
When Obama took office the national debt was almost 11 trillion. Today it is almost 16 trillion. Any way you slice it that's a 50% increase in less then one term. More than any previous president including those who enjoyed 2 terms. Obama's fiscal stewardship is a catastrophe. In fairness other past presidents of both parties have wracked up too much debt. But Obama lies about his contribution and offers no solution, just a slight decrease in the increase in spending. I'm not sure Ryan's plan does a lot more but at least he offers a strawman possiibility to begin to address entitlement spending. Obama's past 2 budgets were rejected by every democratic senator. So clearly his own party doesn't support his approach to fiscal management. He now espouses the lie that his spending trend is less than any other president. He does that partially by assigning responsibility for his 900 billion stimulus boondoggle and his 450 billion omnibus spending plan to Bush. And people actually believe this crap. The economic mess we are in can be directly traced to 9/11 and the fiscal steps taken then by the federal reserve to loosen credit and encourage debt spending by lowering the federal discount rate to unbelievably low levels. Greenspan started it and Bernanke has continued it so that now it is zero and has been for months. This created dangerous bubbles in the housing and financial markets that burst in seven years. We still deal with the after effects. Obama has no plan to restore the economy. We need to let someone else work on it.
So far President Obama after 3 1/2 yrs has given away over $700 billion dollars + in TARP money,that is American tax payers money.And still 15 to 20 million Americans unemployed & 50 million + with no Health Benefits & that includes our Veterans.A national debt over $15 trillion & climbing.A total mortgage housing debt of over $14 trillion + a Student loan debt $1 trillion & climbing.The national debt in America continues to grow & grow.President Obama after 3 1/2 yrs in office has been unable to make decisions to right this Country in a direction to prosper & grow.But only to leave all Americans to burden the debt he has placed us in.President Obama is heading America into I believe a systemic financial crisis."Obama's Re-Election Is No “Slam Dunk"
I never write into these types of boards but I can't take the stupidity any longer. The truth of the matter is both sides (Pres Obama and Gov. Romney) and their supporters are right and yet wrong. The fact is Pres. Bush put us in two wars we had no way of funding and no plan to raise the funding, spending us into debt like never seen before. This is stupid and reckless, but Pres. Obama has doubled down on stupid and reckless by continuing to send troops and spending funds we don't have at an even faster pace than Bush. Like it or not Dem's, if it was stupid and dumb when Bush did it, it's stupid and dumb when Obama does it. It may even be more stupid because he railed so hard against what he is actually doing (wasn't Gimto supposed to be shut down three years ago). And don't give me this garbage about congress not working with him. He had two years with Dem controlled Senate and House. He could've passed anything he wanted but he failed except for a few cases like healthcare reform which is a huge mess in itself.
Both sides will lie to get elected (see Gitmo comment). No one side owns this more than the other. Republicans, remember Nixon and a little thing called Watergate? President "I'm not a crook." No you just committed fraud to the entire nation. But don't laugh to quickly Demarcates, remember Monica gate. President "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman" but what's that stain on the dress Billy? Did it come from your willie? Lying to get what you want has been going on since the beginning of time. Don't expect it to change now.
In closing, vote for whom you like. But don’t tell any of us how much worse the other candidate is or how much better your candidate is. Just realize that both are pathological liars that will tell you what ever they are told you need to hear in order for you to vote for them. Both will promise actions that have no chance of actually happening, both narcissistic ego maniacs. Pres. Obama doesn't have the word "we" in his vocabulary, everything is "I" with him. The great unifier has only unified hatred for any opposing view. Gov. Romney is no better in political double speak. He tells Republicans he's against Obama care and will repeal it but yet he strongly supports Romney care which Obama care was based on, mandate and all. Both are a complete joke.
GOPTP and supporters: In spite of all the right rhetoric of denial, willfull disregard for plain facts –
you guys have a
t u r d of a candidate, while will never be POTUS.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT GOPers. CNN showed that a non-partisan group did their study and it showed OBAMA has grown the least than any president in 60 years.....search for ROMNEY CALLS OBAMA BIG SPENDER video with Erin Burnett.
1. we suffer from a left wing media which is "in the bag" for Obama. Only fools believe what they say.
2. we only have to know that we now have $5.7 trillion in new Obama debt.
1) GOP trying to block his DEFENSE cuts
2) OBAMA/PENTAGON/DEMS- cut $1.2 trillion over 10 yrs-from military/raise tax on wealthy- start @ $110 billion in cuts next year.
3) GOP- cut $243 billion over 10 yrs- cut programs aiding struggling homeowners, cut Medicare, cut foodstamps, etc.- start @ $10 billion in cuts next year.
Shows you how the obstructionists are not listening to their leader and they are HYPOCRITES for their rants as conservatives.
Sorry, but you are completly wrong. According to the Washington Post and other respectable news intities the cost of Bush's policies 2001-2009 was 5.1 trillion. The cost of Obama's policies 2009-2017 is 983 billion. And Obama's spending was to repair the economic damage that he inherited. When Republicans start talking about Obama's debt ask them to break it down, let me help: Iraqi & Afganistan wars, Bush tax cuts & Medicare Part B which Bush implemented. So let's be honest, unless Obama eliminated/ended these things the debt was going to be there. In fact, it has been determined that Obama has spent the least of any president since Eisenhower.
That Marketwatch story has already been torn apart for the way it was done. It's easy to say spending dropped when you skip a whole year and blame it on Bush.
All these posts mean nothing.
Obama will be re-elected because doing the same thing over and over
and expecting different results does not work.
Slow and steady we will fix this mess.
We are shoveling our way out of 8 years of Republican disaster,
lets not jump back in that hole.
Obama is just like Bush, except on energy and racism.
This same old liberal tag line gets old and is beyond its useless life...This situation goes far beyond Bush. Lets start with the Community Reinvestment Act if we want to get to the heart of the matter. We can start to investigate those good ol boys Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and that wonderful example of "ethics" Maxine Waters. If we're gonna go to war, lets include all the battles that caused this mess!
Romney is the epitome of all that is wrong in this country. That doesn't mean Obama is great either. I'd take Reagan again (even though I didn't agree with all of his policies). But we need to re-invest in America, not China. The days of outsourcing should be stopped. We need to bring back jobs and become an economically stable-independent nation again.
I meant Spending grown the least
You have to love the FACT that Odummer CANT stand on HIS record but must blame and bash. Makes me feel good that the libs know it too and can only do the same.
President got it right....with simple straight to the point truth. Bain was corporate raider that never produced any tangible goods or services....ie jobs.
put the koolaid down, youre drunk enough.
Bain Capital produced companies , i.e. Staples, Sports Authority, Dominoes Pizza and many more. Where do you think jobs come from ???
"Harder work doesn't lead to higher income ... "....that statement right there summs up how lefties think!!!! WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAIN WASHED, LAZY MORONS!!!!
This Right vs. Left is starting to sound pretty lame – the name calling, the regurgitation of talking points, the disrespect for Presidents past, present and maybe future. Dueling opinions that are manufactured off media assembly lines and driven around like cars driven by people at home in their underwear, tapping away in their parent's basement. Can't you see this is all fake? We talk in this narrow "righty-tighty-lefty-loosey" tunnel-vision world-view that is designed for one thing – to keep us divided, to keep us from uniting. We cannot live up to the dreams of the founding fathers as long as one man's truth is another man's lie. Step back from your opinions – an opinion is when the brain stops growing, stops being curious, becomes entrenched.
Turn of your TV.
It's time to "lock down" CEO to a max of 500,000$/year....period! The CEO/Board "con" game has to stop. The stock holders are the REAL owners of corporations, yet the scam artists that their "board" puts into the CEO job are stealing their profits. NO company should be able to sell stocks or bonds on ANY financial market, with CEO pay ABOVE that figure. We're just allowing these scumbags to "market their snake oil" to unsuspecting stock and bond buyers. If a person is not "motivated" to do the CEO's jobs for 500,000$/year....get somebody ELSE!
Now that makes sense. CEOs get $500,000, physicians say $250,000, Lawyers $200,000 police officers $60,000 and teachers perhaps $50,000. Yup I'd say you are on to something, the government should reulate compensation for everyone.
What is fair for one.......
Obama sent his "Latest" Budget to the Senate 25 May 2012 and it was rejected 99-0. Did it make the News?? No. The liberal Press avoiided it like the Plague.
And what has the TGOP Congress given us....just asking...
They have passed a bunch of bills, which Harry Reid refuses to allow votes on in the Senate.
Mark...in typical TGOP fashion...You have nailed Mitt and the TGOP campaign...'we've done lots!!....just nothing we can talk about...because it's not tangible...' lol
Cow pie of distortion is the Republican way. Don't blame them. It's the only way they know to gain votes. They know they can't do it on their own ideas because they've failed. They want you to forget all about Bush. But Bush is their standard bearer. The Distorter in Chief sucked us into a needless, costly war and for a whole year led the nation to believe the economy was "strong" and not in trouble. Mitt the Flip is right in that tradition.
Oh so the right wants us to give howdy doody a chance to line his pockets more. Keep stealing from the poor and giving to the rich? I want to see his tax returns, his birth certificate, his cayman and swiss accounts and his record at Bain Capital. This man is hiding something and the right knows it but does not care. They hooped and hollered so much for President Obama to do it. Fair is fair GOP. Get out your etch-a-sketches because now you will type that this was never done, we did not do it. LOL!!!!!!!!!!! They think that Mittens can just sail into the white house without no explanations of his plans. To be a double degree Harvard grad I thought that he could do better that what he is showing us. You do not become president because you think it is your turn to do so. They are so full of hatred that it is eating them alive. Libtards and independents will not be fooled this time because these people can not take it that a black man is president.
""The main goal of a financial firm like Gov. Romney's is not to create jobs.... Their main goal is to create wealth for themselves and their investors,""
Except how they make money is by turning sickly companies healthy. If the company falls apart they lose money. So yes their job is to create jobs.
But hey CNN here is an idea. Compare the success rates for Bain during Romney's tenure with the public equity investments from Obama. I bet Romney wins by a landslide.
President Obama's decision to bailout GM (which Mittens was opposed to and no private equity firm would touch) resulted in the saving of millions of jobs and GM the top auto maker in the world.
Mittens and Bain targeted healthy companies, laid people off to make them look better on the books, borrowed against the company, using it as collateral, created special dividends to pay themselves huge sums of money, then walked away, leaving the companies saddled with debt.
Some companies made it; many failed. All lost employees (and often had their health and pension benefits cut in the process). Those that failed resulted in even more unemployed people, and those that couldn't meet their pension obligations were bailed out by the US taxpayer.
So Mittens' idea of "success" is to line his and his investors' pockets at the expense of everyone else. Fine, but it's a crappy model for how to run a country.
Obama/Biden 2012
Bain had a 80% success rate. Many of the companies did they have to shut down were because of unreasonable union demands.
Mark...google Bain...where does it say we create jobs...there approach is and always has been...'Our mission at Bain Capital is to produce superior investment returns for our investors'
And the only one throwing around 80% success is Mitt..on Fox...nice try though...on the lighter side...I guess you are feeling closer to Mitt because his 47th position in job creation was only slightly better than LA...mediocrity breads mediocrity...
Amen to 'Zaggs'....right on.!!!!
"His speech was more like a cow pie of distortion... " the president said.
He's surely an expert on cow pies. He's dumped enough of them himself.
The biggest spenders in the history of the United States were Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Reagan tripled the national debt in his 8 years as president (his party controlled the Senate for 6 of those years). W doubled the national debt in his 8 years (his party controlled both the House and Senate for 6 of those years). Barack Obama has NOT doubled the national debt, and at his current pace, WILL NOT double the national debt by the end of his second term. He has slowed the growth of spending, unlike Reagan and W, both of whom accelerated it.
Obama and his supporterss. Yada..yada..yada..yada..keep dividing this country by hating the job creators. I am an employee who's company shed 130 employees because of healthcare cost nightmare..What has Obama done? Nothing! Nothing! If my company goes down because Obama and his cronies hates rich individual, will Obama supplement my 100K salary because of his stupid 'hate the companies"? No, he will give me food stamps.. hmm.. I would rather side with the rich that will pay empower me with 100k where I can proudly say I PAY for my own mortgage, buy my family's food from my own pocket, pay for my kids education from my own pockeet instead government handouts.. STOP DIVIDING THIS COUNTRY OBAMA! You need to learn from Clinton - and stop blaming other presidents or the rich or the working hard people.. Learn from Clinton's of how he work well with past presidents instead of blaming past president.. Grow UP!
President will win election if the country don’t rise and see what he really did in his presidency. The man is unfit to lead this great nation. He is a divider and not a man who unites. He says something and does something else. He told that he would close Guantanamo prison but changes his mind; he said would try 911 attackers in Federal court in NY but changes his mind. He said he would raise taxes and would let Bush taxes expire, but change his mind. He said he will pass the dream act and but would be the only president to deport the maximum no of illegal’s from this country. He said he would cut deficit the first term of his presidency and instead he spent like a drunk. How can we let him our president for the second term? We need a change and that would be a one time president.
So it looks like Obama plans to spend hundreds of thousands of taxpayers money to go to Afghanstan this weekend to use our troops as campaign props. He has no official events on his calendar for this Memorial Day weekend and he's sending Biden to Arlington National Cemetary. I can't imagine that a political hack like Obama would not exploit Memorial Day in some way for November's elections. I guess it's time to sully himself by being with men and women who are fighting for this country to make it appear as if he likes and supports them.
"A president who broke his promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term has no standing when it comes to fiscal responsibility," Romney's spokesman Ryan Williams said in a statement. "
If the GOP is looking for people who don't keep their promises, then they should look in the mirror. THEY are the ones who've put their loyalty to Grover Norquist ahead of their loyalty to the US Constitution and their constituents.
THEY are the ones who actively thwarted the will of the people by opposing President Obama and his agenda – after a MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ELECTED HIM AND HOUSE AND SENATE MAJORITIES IN 2008!
THEY have promoted hatred against President Obama, everything from not quashing the birther nonsense to claims that he's a Muslim to tolerating the most vile lies spewed by not only their "base," but their spokespeople like Limbaugh who said he wanted President Obama to fail.
Republicans should be ASHAMED of their behavior the last 3.5 years! They are traitorous bunch of liars who are bent on harming our country without regard to consequence so they can blame President Obama for their own failures, all in the hopes of regaining power.
Republicans thoroughly disgust me – as they should you, TOO!
i think it is a good plan on the part of the president and democrats to go on the offensive from the start. Otherwise the reps are clever they put you on the defense all the time and you will be percieved as weak by the voters. Obama 2012
I love when Obama talks about the job of a president and people's experiences that qualify or disqualify them for the presidency. He did very little that qualified him to be a US Senator, much less a president! The job of a president is actually clearly defined in the constitution and it is not job creation, clean energry, or any of his other bright ideas that have failed. Romney is a better option, period. Obama has proven he is not up to the challenge.
Cow pie of distortion is all the Repubs have! No record of accomplishment, just the same-old, same-old economic, military and foreign policies that are PROVEN FAILURES.
BTW, I've posted this several times and NOT ONCE has a Repub cited any evidence to the contrary. Why? Because they DON'T HAVE ANY.
Repubs = Failure
Obama??? He's DESPERATE
ECTH-A-SKETCH????? HE'S FLIP FLOPPING DESPERATE.
Jimmy Carter makes Obama look like a genius !!
1) GOP trying to block his DEFENSE cuts
2) OBAMA/PENTAGON/DEMS- cut $1.2 trillion over 10 yrs-from military/raise tax on wealthy- start @ $110 billion in cuts next year.
3) GOP- cut $243 billion over 10 yrs- cut programs aiding struggling homeowners, cut Medicare, cut foodstamps, etc.- start @ $10 billion in cuts next year.
Shows you how the obstructionists are not listening to their leader and they are HYPOCRITES for their rants as conservatives. They feed their blind sheep with distortions.
Obama is a cow pie.
We should listen to Obama...if ANYONE knows about cowpies and distorting the truth, IT IS HIM.
Looking through the 'politics' section on your web site....I'm thinking you or maybe it is your computers, only know how to promote Obama says this, Obama says that .....why don't we see some "fair and balanced" Romney says this, Romney says that from him???? Free enterprise and Capitalism are NOT bad words!!! I for one American do not want to part of a nanny state like Europe, not do I want that for my children nor grandchildren ....choices, choices, and opportunities is what makes America great! not by entitlements...but by work, self-determination, and the 'can do' attitude of our forefathers/mothers....
It is very simple my fellow citizens...just go to BainCapital website. Even with a microscope you would not find that creating jobs is their goal. In fact, the word "job" does not even exist anywhere. They are neither concerned about creating jobs or retaining them in America. They even mention very clearly that they create more wealth by "capitalizing on changes in global economic landscape". Friends. ..what do you think it means...they invest in foreign copanties/economies and grow along with them...that could mean producing products in foreign countries and sell them in America at higher margins, leading to more profits to their investors.
Ask any private equity owner..how do you decide where to invest? Give two options..one creates jobs in America but may have lower margins, another creates jobs somewhere else but gives higher profits. He is either a fool or lying ifhe he says I care about jobs than profits.
Obama has no record to run on. That's why he's had many slogans for this campaign . They throw everything at the wall to see what sticks..........
"WTF", "WE CAN'T WAIT", "Repubs / the Party of NO", "WAR ON WOMEN", "FORWARD", " BAIN CAPITAL / Evil Vultures"......
I've got a good one for them......."COW PIE, WE STEPPED IN IT."
I might agree with the pres about Bain experience not being enough...BUT that isn't all Romney has done. HE is distorting the story EVERY TIME he fails to mention that Romney was the Gov. of Mass.. Romney has MUCH MORE qualifications than Obama had when he was elected into office.
Cow Pies, I think the president is being nice. I'm from Canada, so I don't have a hat in the ring. I do not have this seemingly religious attachment to one side or the other (could be time for more parties to compete in your country though) What I see from Mittens and the gop is quite amusing to me. I think they are trying to capitalize on the thirty-plus years of gop cuts to education where the average America is not even close to what is used to be even ten years ago. They just seem to repeat the same stuff (most not factually based in reality) over and over and the American people seem to be eating it up. I think the super pacs really hurt the whole democratic process (companies as people – really?) Not to mention the homogenization of the news in North America. People are not challenged. They tend to watch, read, and listen to programs that already re-enforce their opinions. They never listen to the other side and the media doesn't seem to hold peiople accountable when they spew nonesense (or out-right lies) The whole thing is broken and so many are running around with half-cocked ideals.
When Obama was campaigning he didn't know that the cost of the two wars was not included in the Budget. Cheney had hidden those costs which only came into the open when Obama put his budget forward and included those costs. Remember it was Bush/Cheney and the GOP that got us into this mess.
Dude, everyone who paid attention to the news knew that, if obama didn't it's his fault
Damn straight! If you liked Bush/Cheney you'll love a Romney administration. He's got many of the same guys working behind the scenes for him as Bush/Cheney did. The most frightening admission of the year came from Grover Norquist at CPAC:
"All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.
Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared."
The choice this year is not between Obama and Romney, it is between Obama and a return to the Bush/Cheney policies (on steroids).
Be afraid, be very afraid.
If creating jobs is the primary skill of Romney, then why was Massachusetts ranked 47th in the country in jobs creation when he was Governor????
0bama is stung? Maybe we're paying attention to
Operation Fast & Furious
Obamacare (now costing TWICE AS MUCH)
$5 TRILLION in DEBT. (More than all Presidents' first term COMBINED!)
$500 Billion CUT from Medicare
Failures of Solyndra, NextEra, Light Squared, Ener1, Solar Trust and others
Failure to enforce Federal immigration laws
Failure to approve Trans-Canada Keystone Pipeline
Failure to accept reforms from Simpson-Bowels (his own commission)
8.1% unemployment (14.5% U-6 Real Unemployment)
Skirting Congress with unelected 'czars' to protect his donors
Skirting Congress by allowing previously frozen Palestinian assets
.America's Credit Downgrade causes OUR investments to tank
30% loss in value of OUR homes
20 years of Rev. Wright's racism
Bailing out GM & Chrysler unions' pensions with OUR TAXES
Highest Food Stamp usage in history
Welfare UP 41% since inaugural
Out-of-control NLRB giving unions more power so their donations grow
Suing AZ, Al, SC, Boeing and Apple while ignoring the NB Panthers
$800B for 'shovel-ready' Stimulus jobs that produced NO JOBS
Dept.. of Energy under contempt of court and over 100 investigations
N0 Energy Policy...Oil, Natural Gas & Coal production anemic
N0 Foreign Policy other than alienate and isolate our Allies (Israel)
Apologizing to Muslims and enemies of the USA
Acorn / Union cronyism paybacks with OUR Taxes
1200 0bamaCare waivers to Democrat donators
WE want answers, not rhetoric.
N0BAMA 2012
I see a lot of Republican blaming Obama and a lot of Democrats blaming Bush. I think in the end we are all part of the problem. I do think Obama is doing an admirable job. Every president has has money problems Obama has had more than most. While things are not wonderful right now, progress has been made and this despite a domino effect of several world economies collapsing around us. A huge deficit was left with Obama and he has not fully fixed it but he has slowed the loss. The stimulus plans were like dumping water into the bottom of a boat. Not a good, but there also happened to be a fire in said boat so it was necessary. The deficit that was left is more like a hole in the boat and the water has been pouring in. Bailing water only works so long as you can keep ahead of the incoming water, we can't do that forever and that is what Romney's plans amount to. Obama has a finger in the hole but needs a better patch job than that and he needs help to do it. He has my support and I hope congress will support him soon. I will happily give him the time he needs to finish the job.
"The president also slammed Romney's financial experience, saying his tenure as CEO of the private equity firm, Bain Capital, doesn't qualify him to be president."
This coming from a man who's work experience is as a community organizer? I needed a good laugh
Ohh by the way, that company he visited that make wind turbine blades? It is open because of investments by private equity firms like Bain Capitol, it only received a small loan/grant from obama. Of course obama will try and take credit for it.
Obama was not simply a "community organizer". He had a paying job (right out of college) as the director of a church-based community organization that focused on job-training, tenant's rights and college preparation. While there, he grew that organization and expanded their programs. He also went to Harvard law school. After law school he taught constitutional law at University of Chicago for 12 years. Then he became a state senator for 7 years and then a U.S. senator for 3 years before becoming president of the U.S. Actually, that's quite a resume. What's Mitt's look like? According to him, he's unemployed (yet making 300 million a year – yeah, he's totally in touch with the average American),
And, by the way, there is a difference in the way firms like Bain Capital and true venture capitalist companies work. True venture capital firms put money into new and promising technologies and businesses that need substantial capital to get an idea or product off the ground. Bain Capital finds businesses that have failed (or are failing) and buys them at a bargain, with borrowed money, That borrowed money is used to pay investors. If the company survives, then more profit for investors. If the company fails, the initial investment gets written off as a loss and everybody wins (well, except the lender, the original owner of the company, and all the workers – they get effed).
Just thought I'd clear some things up for you since you didn't seem to fully understand.
The cow thing should scare Mitt a lot and he should be saying: Little birdie in the sky, why you poopoo in my eye? I am a good guy, I don`t cry. Gee I`m glad that cows don`t fly!
I have some questions about Romney that I can't find answers for:
1. If Romney's grandparents fled the US to Mexico to live in polygamy, didn't they renounce their US citizenship?
2. If Romney's father was born in Mexico, how did he run for president in the 1960's?
3. Did anyone ever see Romney's father's birth certificate?
4. Would Mitt be considered an anchor baby?
5. Are any of Mitt's sons serving in the military?
Amazing
"Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true. But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s."
Once again the current occupier of the Oval Office acts so un-Presidential. Why does he always stoop to the community organizer gutter with the sarcasm in his choice of words, like "cow pie"? He has done more to degrade the office he was elected to hold with his mouth, starting with his "we won" during the "bipartisan" meeting he orchestrated as a photo op. Sarcasm they name is Obama!
The Obama Administration is a lot like a cow pie.
What exactly is the community organizer gutter? Community organizers are probably the oldest profession since civilization, and I don't understand the demonization. The early Americans were community organizers, in order to maintain some kind of semble of order in the original settlement communities. The US is a "community", and the President, Congress, federal workers, legal system are all "community organizers". The main fabric of American society as we have known it are a product of community organizers. So if you demonize community organizers, in essence, you are demonizing the American society (according to GOP logic of any attack on Bain is an attack on Free Market Capitalism), and I don't think that's what you want to do.
Some of you are just knuckleheads or just plain dumb. We have the ability to really take a huge step forward in energy using wind turbines and solar panels to really chang our lives and cut down substantially on our oil addiction, but all you do is whine about this whine about that. Sure, some companies will not do well, some may even go belly up, but you don't throw up your hands and give up. Romney defends his BS by saying some companies that Bain handled did well, and a few didn't and you buy that BS lock, stock, and barrel, but when it comes to clean energy you keep beating a dead horse with Solyndra. There are many companies doing very well with clean energy systems, don't just keep picking on one company that failed with the same BS over and over. Of course, the GOP, Big Oil, and the Coal companies keep feeding you the line of BS that we need to deregulate them so that they can do more...more what, poison the environment, the drinking water, or rape you even more with prices? Solar and Wind power are the future, the power of the sun and the wind doesn't rape you, it's the BS from those that stuff the pockets of Republicans that will. The GOP is so disingenious with the American people, they should be outlawed as traitors.
Romney and Bain did it with private $$, not taxpayer $$ - that is a world of difference! This Administration is blasting Romney and Bain for doing exactly what they are doing, invesitng in companies. So if they can attack Romney for a steel company failure then Romney can attack them for a green energy company failure. And, Romney hasn't gotten campaign contributions from those failures as this unprepared occupier of the Oval Office has.
Just like Romney claiming that since he ran Bain, he's more qualified to fix the economy.....Bain revenues and activities are such small potatoes compared to the complexity of running the US economy. Bain doesn't have 10% of the US GDP under its control.
It is different. This administration sought to grow businesses and increase employment by investment. Romney sought to increase HIS PERSONAL PROFIT throught investment. If he could increase his profits by growing the business and, as an byproduct increase the number of employees, so be it. But if it was more profitable to suck the money out of a viable business, load it up with debt, then shut it down and stick its creditors with unpaid bills and sacrifice the jobs of all of its employees, well that was ok too. He didn't care about any of the collateral damage, he was in it to make a fortune.
Hey!!! Quit distorting my cowpies!!!
The sheer amount of stupidity on this board boggles my mind. People don't understand how debt works. Debt is an accumulation of PREVIOUS policies. Obama inherited 2 UNPAID wars (that cost trillions of dollars) as well as tax cuts for the "job creators." Blaming Obama for the debt is like blaming firemen for not preventing fires. The truth is that these things were already put in motion BEFORE he took over. He has already ended one war and will end another during his second term. He will also let the Bush tax cuts expire for our glorious job creators. If President Romney is elected we stay in Afghanistan (you're welcome Haliburton) and our job creators are rewarded with further cuts. Guaranteed a Romney presidency gets the debt well over 25 trillion.
This President is such a disgrace to this country...this great orator is acting like a dictator.
He's intentionally splitting this country apart...putting everyone at each others' throats!
It boggles my mind how anyone could want another 4 years of his failed policies, his constant divisive rhetoric, his pointing fingers, his sarcasm, his petulance, his arrogance, his lying, and I could go on...you get the point.
God save us all if he's reelected...
Cow pie?! Uhm, I am starting to wonder if Mr. Divisive-in-Chief was thinking of Moochelle when he made that comment.
Uhm, I just curious...
What's with the Mooschelle comment? Remember the supposed attack on Romney's wife? This insult is much more degrading that anything Hilary Rosen said about Ann Romney, and everybody from the President to janitor at the DNC had to apologize. No reason to insult the man's wife (either man's wife).
Thanks for the comment, Jerky! I hope Gov. Mutt-Abuser and his wife Ankle-weight live up to your expectations.
The First Lady's name is Michelle. Your obvious disrepect for the Obama's and lack of anything intelligent to write shows that you have the I.Q. of a cow-pie.
Obama hit the nail on the head! Corporations are not in business to create jobs – they are in business to make a profit for the owners and the investors.
I live in a country – not a corporation. I am a citizen – not am employee Mitt!!!
Let's face it, none of these people commenting below are going to change their minds just because some blogger has their own skewed version of reality posted. Let's just agree to disagree
A lot of the good things Mitt Romney claims he could do as President, he could have also done as a regular person/businessman in ther past
I want a person who cares for his community as my President not a selfish greedy individual who will tell me whatever he needs to tell me so he can make the sale.
President Obama 2012 !!!!
I guess his service as a Church leader doesn't count. Nor does his success in saving the Olympics for the biggest community, the United States, doesn't count. I'm sorry, but your idol has done more to divide that same community, the United States, than any President in this nation's history.
Being a church leader should count, but being a community organizer should count for more, because the community organizer doesn't just decide who to help because of religion, gender, sexual preference, race, etc. The Olympics he saved was the Winter Olympics, which isn't as important as the Summer Olympics and technically isn't really the original Olympics. Yay, he saved an event that has less than 10% of the attendance and viewership of the regular Summer Olympics. He wouldn't talk about governorship of Mass., so that can't really be discussed (not yet). As for dividing the U.S., the claim of "flatten the tax and broaden the base" doesn't divide people? You want to increase the taxes on the 47% of Americans who pay no federal taxes, and that doesn't divide people? How about protecting well-off households from paying more taxes, when a single person making $60K pays a higher tax rate than a millionaire? That doesn't divide people? Politics is about dividing people and trying to get more people on your side than the other people, so enough with the "Obama is trying to divide America" nonsense.
I am sorry but BISHOP ROMNEYS CULT CHURCH EXPERIENCE IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO ALL CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS! I am a Loyal Republican but Romney is a cult Bishop and I cannot support him,I will sit this election out. Romney is no Christian,he believes in Hoesoph Smith as the messiah,The Book Of Mormon,Wears Mormon Magical Underwear,Believes God Lives On PLANET KOLOB,Thinks Darkskinned people are not human. The MORMONS worship a child molester murderer ......How can any religious REPUB support this? There are many many like me who will not sell out their faith to vote for a Cult Bishop and are very disapointed Santorum is not the candidate who is a Real christian,and a Real Conservative unlike BISHOP ROMNEY THE MAGICAL PANTY BOY. Sorry but this repub and so many others know Romney is a cultist and will stay home on election day,our soul and religion is more important than anything and will not sell out our religion to a cultist. Religious Scholars,Universities,Colleges, Historical Documents,Priests,Pastors,Ministers all say the same thing about the Mormons......THEY ARE A CULT AND NOT CHRISTIAN. NO vote For the CULTIST!!!
I am sorry but BISHOP ROMNEYS CULT CHURCH EXPERIENCE IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO ALL CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS! I am a Loyal Republican but Romney is a cult Bishop and I cannot support him,I will sit this election out. Romney is no Christian,he believes in Hoesoph Smith as the messiah,The Book Of Mormon,Wears Mormon Magical Underwear,Believes God Lives On PLANET KOLOB,Thinks Darkskinned people are not human. The MORMONS worship a child molester murderer ......How can any religious REPUB support this? There are many many like me who will not sell out their faith to vote for a Cult Bishop and are very disapointed Santorum is not the candidate who is a Real christian,and a Real Conservative unlike BISHOP ROMNEY THE MAGICAL PANTY BOY. Sorry but this repub and so many others know Romney is a cultist and will stay home on election day,our soul and religion is more important than anything and will not sell out our religion to a cultist. Religious Scholars,Universities,Colleges, Historical Documents,Priests,Pastors,Ministers all say the same thing about the Mormons......THEY ARE A CULT AND NOT CHRISTIAN. NO vote For the CULTIST!!!
@edfla – You're clearly not a student of presidential history and politics. Stop getting your talking points from the GOP, FoxNews and talk radio.
Right on – why hasn't Romney used all of many $$$$ to create businesses or re-education programs if he cares so much about the citizens. It's all smoke & mirrors.
Right-wing nuts claim: Obama has not cut the budget deficit in half by his first term
2009 BUDGET DEFICIT (inherited from Bush) = 1.5T
Obama's 2012 Budget request would have cut the budget deficit to 900B, with projections of 575B by 2018. Of course, the GOP voted NO again.
Because of the debt deal Obama negotiated, over 1.2T in budget cuts will have to be made in the next decade beginning in 2013. This is an automatic budget cuts that will occur.
Yeah, that is more than enough to satisfy Obama's promise to cut the budget deficit.
The Democratic Party can not produce a budget at all, so there is nothing to compare to.
The 2009 budget which Bush crafted in Sept of 2008 was signed by Democrats and Obama in March of 2009. That 2009 budget had over 1T in budget deficit before Obama added the STIMULUS bailouts. So factually, Obama/Dems have passed a budget.
The debt deal to AUTOMATICALLY cut 1.2T in government spending starting in 2013 was an Obama deal.
The GOP House and the super minority in the Senate are refusing to sign off any Obama budget because they want more tax cuts and no cuts to the military.
Hmmm ... how are you suppose to cut spending if you want more tax cuts and no cuts to the military???
Whether or not Congress can agree on a new budget for 2013 does not matter. If the GOP will not make concessions, the AUTOMATIC BUDGET cuts will still kick in.
That is LEADERSHIP on Obama's part to have negotiated these AUTOMATIC CUTS to the budget ... anticipating that the GOP will not vote to pass any of his budgets.
Marley you forgot that the DEMOCRATS wanted the budget signed by PRES. Obama because they believed it was great, now you blame BUSH. You forgot that by that time the DEMOCRATS been running the country and according to them at that time we were doing great, no problem, according to Barney Frank and Dodd. DEMOCRATS filibustered every suggestion coming from the republicans and Pres.Bush and then Senator Obama IF he was to be found in the senate and not running for President got real good at filibusters or NO votes. Remember his statement increasing the Natl Debt is UNAMERICAN. So what is he now??????
After an increase of 3 trillion in one year, he will safe 500 billion over 10 years, welcome to the new math.
If corporations are people, then issue them Social Security numbers, and have them pay, personally, FICA, Medicare, and individual income taxes. Oh yes, give each corporation a vote, too. Let's see how that plays out. Oh, wait, they can't vote until they're eighteen years old.
Corporations are people. They are called stockholders & employees.
The deficit is only 15t. I can't beleive anyone would even bring it up as a talking point. OWEbama is doing a great job. He has united all the races, increased jobs, reduced regulation on business and energy, increased social programs......................................why he is doing a splendid job.
Obama, the ultimate Illinois "Pay to Play" politician, takes millions in donations from private equity firms including Bain Capital while he flies around the country slamming then as vampire capitalists. He rewards his large contributors with loan quarantees and investments for "green energy" projects while implementing EPA and OSHA regulations that punish everyone associated with fossil fuels.
Romney likes to fire people, like Obama should have done in 2009. Obama's backgroung as an academian Divergent from Reality was a poor background to make a Presidency from.
Mitt McCain LIES,not distortion.
I have no doubts that there will be some deception coming out of the Romney campaign. But what a hypocrite. Obama and his attorney general are two of the biggest liars and deceivers in American political history.
SOME distortion!!
some distortion would be acceptable.
Romney is flat out lying 24/7!
Can you be more specific? What lies exactly has the President or the Attorney General told the American public? And does their "lies" trump the "Iraq has WMD" lie or the "tax cuts are not tax expenditure" lie or the "death panel" lie or the "Obama's a Muslim, Kenyan or what ever else you want to insert" lie?
No the AG is a political HACK.
This country, the average American simply can’t take a return to “more of the same”, Bush-Cheney style, with the “puppet” politicians performing as their “strings are pulled” ... and that is exactly what “the money” wants, what they are paying for. The likes of Rove, Cheney, Norquist, SuperPacs and several others are all selling just that, the organization, control and power over the party, and then the likes of Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, Ryan, Bachmann and several others are dutifully performing. “The money” is aggressively paying for it to emphatically assure their interests are the total concentration, without any concern for the majority, as has been totally proven over the last twelve years. They say whatever they feel will excite and sway the people, always rationalized as “conservative”, but do only what “the money” wants and then depend on the power and influence of “the money” to help con the people and manipulate public opinion. The Republican / Tea Party has literally become owned and controlled by “the money” and the only way to break that stranglehold that continually pushes this country further into being a two-class society, with “the few” (1%) competing in having it all while the majority (99%) keeps loosing more, is to firmly and totally reject their “puppet” candidates / politicians, and thereby render “the money” ineffective. It is up to the voters.
Obama is exactly like Bush, except energy policy.
TWO DISTINCTIVELY DIFFERENT PRESIDENTS: OBAMA COOL HEAD, SMART AND BUSH IS A NICE PERSON BUT TOTALLY IMCOMPETENT.
@REG in AZ - couldn't have said it better!
So, if private enterprises make an investment and it doesn't work out (the company goes bankrupt), that's par for the course, but if government makes an investment and it doesn't work out (the company goes bankrupt), it's the worst thing that ever happened? Is that it? Also, the claim that 80% of the investments made by Romney's company since 1984 (or so) has had an increase in revenue, really doesn't make much sense to me. Is there any commodity (that doesn't perish or decompose) in the world that hasn't gone up in value since 1984? After almost 30 years, I'd think that the value of your investment has increased. I know over 80% of the investments I've made since 1984 have increased in value as well. Am I better qualified than Romney?
You mean the president actually knows what cow pie is? Doubt it, probably has only seen one on a picture. HAHA
Obama's so-called "failures" have mostly to do with Republicans fighting tooth and nail to defeat his proposals. After all, they did say right at the beginning of his presidency that they wanted him out at all costs. Romney will sell us middle class folks down the river, and brother, it will cost us! If Romney is elected, all you Mittwits out there will reap what you've sown. Unfortunately, you'll drag the rest of us down there into the pit.
I am a republican but I cannot vote for Romney for many reasons,# 1 he has to be the most shallow candidate ever to be given to us gopers,he changes his positions on every other campain stop " FLIp Flopper,or ETHC A SKETCH. We need a gop candidate that is truely a conservative,not a pretend one,a man or woman that has a backbone and will stick witrh his position even if its not popular,and will keep his word to his supporters unlike Romney who flip flops,at first I gave Romney the benefit of the doubt but he is a Flipper! Then as a Christian Conservative I cannot Support a man who is a CULT BISHOP to theMORMON CULT. Mormons are not christians for many reasons,They worship JOESOPH SMITH AS THEIR MESSIAH,who was a rapist,child molester,theif and murderer.Then They believe in the BOOK OF MORMON,the book Joesoph Smith made to control his followers and scam them,They believe in MORMON MAGICAL UNDERWEAR that protects them from evil and only the most devout shall never take them off. Then they believe that DARK SKINNED PEOPLE ARE SUB HUMAN AND ARE THE WORK OF EVIL.Last but not least MORMONS BELIEVE THEIR GOD LIVES ON A PLANET NAMED KOLOB. None of these things are CHRISTIAN,and I cannot support any man/woman that distorts and perverts the teachings of the bible.I feel the Gop sold us out by sticking us with such a shallow candidate with no morals and a CULT RELIGION. Me and my church of 800 members will sit this election out and wait till 2016,we will not vote for CULT BISHOP ROMNEY AND HIS MORMON SKIDMARKED MAGICAL UNDERWEAR CULT! WE WILL NOT SELL OUT OUR FAITH,WE WILL WAIT FOR A CHRISTIAN CANDIDATE! Why on earth did we get stuck with such a horrible candidate,Santorum was our only option.Shame on you Gop for selling out your religious base.
You were never a Republican, all your life you have been a member of the BIGOT party– face it!
Right, you were a repub, right....
Some people will not sell out to a cult Bishop.I am a repub also and will not vote for Romney for the same religious reasons,I am going to vote 3rd party or just stay home,Romneys religion is a slap in the face to all christians and it is a well known fact that mormons are a cult. They do believe Joesoph Smith is their messiah,and his book is the word of god,this is not christian and goeas against everything that our Christian churches teach.Mormons are Child molesters,Polyigimists,Bigemists,con men.....there is nothing good or sacred about anything a Mormon does,Warren Jeffs is Romneys religious hero and I cannot support him.
"Harder work doesn't lead to higher income ... You can't solve that problem if you can't even see that it's a problem."
BINGO! Thank You Mr. President!
MR. PRESIDENT YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT! MAGIC UNDERWEAR BOY IS TRYING TO SHOVE A SILVER SPOON FULL OF COW PATTIES DOWN AMERICA'S THROAT WHILE HE AND HIS PREP SCHOOL CRONIES GIVE US A HAIRCUT AND THROW US ON THE ROOF OF HIS CAR. HOPEFULLY 50% OF VOTERS ARE SMART ENOUGH TO READ THE FACTS AND FIGURE THIS OUT.
obama has simply been the biggest failure in america's history.no one cares about romney they just want obama out!
If your congressman/mayor is not a moderate, vote them out. Extreme polarizing politicians are incapable of governing American citizens. We need adults in congress and in our local governments, not teenagers who don't get their way. I don't need another person running for a government position based on how they "feel/opinion" about our country/community; I need an educated EMPATHETIC thinker who knows the facts and makes reasonable legislation that will benefit the majority of American citizens.
The president also slammed Romney's financial experience, saying his tenure as CEO of the private equity firm, Bain Capital, doesn't qualify him to be president.
And Obama's qualifications were?????????????
EX REPUBLICAN, so are you going to vote for Mr. Obama?! Talk about shallow?! Guess what, I am life-long Democrat that WILL NOT vote for Mr. Divisive-in-Chief.
There you go! In essence we are even!
actually the EX republican was NOT going to vote at all.
So much for your reading skills
as for you being a Dem, Hahaha.
sure you are.
Just say it Obama ! Say cowsh*t !!!!! Wouldn't that be a change ? Republicans call Obama all kinds of sh*t and worse – so just tell them publicly to "F*CK OFF !" ok I'll calm down now. 😛
Romney is GW Bush, part 2.
same foreign policy advisers, same financial advisers, same "trickle down economics".
WE TRIED THIS FOR 30 YEARS people, when is enough, enough!
"trickle down" does not work!
2.5 trillion was given in "Tax cuts" under Bush and WE COLLAPSED!
By 2005 3 million jobs had vanished!
Bush & the GOP started a TAX CREDIT for OUTSOURCING jobs.
WHO does that? a bought and paid for GOP party, that's who.
The deregulation of OUR Banking industry is responsible for the global meltdown!
wake up conservatives and smell the reality.
Your getting played, big time.
Is the United States like that of a grand picture; where each and every one of us represent a point of color? This may explain why God allows bad things to happen, these dark colors are part of this grand picture. This painting are like clouds, it is always evolving. We do not know where God will lead this final draft for each day... Are we all not like an orchestra playing great music; where each and every one of us represent a single note?... God gave every one of us birth for a reason. The one thing we all have about the same after our birth is time. Whether you are Warren Buffett, a billionaire, or a star, we are all given about the same of this precious gift. The difference is how we spend it... Our 2 political parties fighting are like a painting with only 3 colors, all in black or white or shades of grey. It is either my way or the highway! Our 2 political parties fighting are like that of only 2 notes of music.... Both examples do not allow great out comes of a great painting or wonderful music. Our nation is better than that!... We must create a new rebirth of our nation by spending our time wisely. This partisan fighting is just waisting everyone's time. Let us all become our true colors or individual note to created a masterpiece called the USA for the new 21st century.
Is anyone else laughing a little inside? It's funny, in a depressing sort of way, how misinformed a lot of people are on both sides.
Bravo for Obama. It's about time he stopped letting the SOBs get aware with their lies. Job creaters my foot. They only create jobs when they run out of alternatives, and they pay the lowest they can get away with. And would they put oil profits over the good of the country? Of course they would. And woukld they put tax cuts over a well functioning socieity? Of course they would, particularly for their wealthy donor base (the ones who the conservative activist judges on the Supreme Court freed to manipulate the political system in Citizens United.) As a result of government cutbacks, our infrastructure becomes more ramshackle by the year, our mortality rates lag behind many other countries, and we are sacrificing our scientific edge to other countries in area after area. To boot, our social mobility is way behind Europe's! Who in the last 200 years would have ever thought that of America? A good part of this is tracable to conservatives of the last 40 years who, like the Communists of old, put their ideology over actual results even when it fails again and again.
Romney's statement about deficit cutting during the Obama presidency ignores the following
.......GOP/Romney's new tax proposal would add 5 trillion to deficit
.......Obama asked for a 4 trillion $ expenditure reduction over 10 years and the GOP couldn't even come up with 1.2
.......GOP wants to add back defense spending they already agreed to cut, which will add to deficit
.......Many in the GOP wanted to slow down Iraq exit, which would have added to deficit.
.......GOP wants to extend all Bush tax cuts which will add to deficit....
Biden was in Charlotte NC yesterday for a fund raiser. The cost was $10,000.00 a plate for a lunch!!! How's that 1% thing working for ya??? These guys got to go in November. Obama lies and Biden swears to it. But, the media made the mistake of posting numbers and anyone with a 5th grade education can do the math and see the "cow patty" Obama is throwing!!!
We should only elect Romney president if we intend to buy out Norway and lay off all it's citizens before sucking the oil out.
I do not understand "a combination of official and campaign business" – either The Prez is there to Sign a New Bill and MAKE USA JOBS, or just Campaigning – we should be clearer about this constant travel and expenditure of Tax Funds and RISK for our Prez traveling ALL the time – – The Cow Pie Mitt at least pays his own way – –
It's absolutely bizarre listening to the Great Obama talk about Romney's lack of qualifications to be president. Where were his qualifications (which are mostly still missing)? I can think of no one less qualified than Obama to deal with national economic issues and job creation. He blames republicans for the stalemate in Congress, but he is squarely responsible for breeding the current atmosphere of divisiveness. Independents, conservatives, and middle-of-the-roaders are heartily sick of his childishness and 'do it my way' or 'I will brand you a racist' attitude. Four more years of Obama's gang looting the treasury will bankrupt this nation. Let's have the election.
There is goes again. "Cow pie distortion?" Obama is being way too nice.
Everyone is missing the point. If you as an individual want to do this fine. The govt should not have any involvement. No tax breaks, tax credits etc.
Is it just me or is Romney completely lost right now? He can't seem to say anything that makes any sense and there's no coherent message coming out of his campaign. In contrast, Obama seems to have turn his game up a notch and is beating Romney with little trouble or opposition.
Obama has absolutely no standing to criticize Romney's qualifications. He was one of the least qualified major party candidates in the last 100 years in 2008. then he said 'judgement' was more important than experience. well that lack of experience has shown itself to matter a great deal.
Romney has no standing to criticize the President in that case. Romney hasn't worked as President, so he's not qualified to be President. Hahaha.
Romney is clearly not wearing any clothes. Why can't you republican Borges see this?
WHICH PLANET YOU CAME FROM? OBAMA SUPERB JUDGEMENT ABILITY WITH A HUMAN TOUCH.
I would like any of you Obama haters that may have voted for him in '08 to explain to us what you expected. I would think you voted for him primarily due to the fact we were in a free fall and you thought he was more qualified to stop the bleeding than McCain was. If that is the case, did he not do what you wanted? He stopped us from going into a Depression. It's easy to look back now and criticize and say well he shouldn't have done this, he should have done that, etc. but at the time we were in a crisis mode and if it wasn't for Obama and his people who knows where we would be now. Please think about it. No one can perform miracles except God, but it seems too many of us are expecting that from this president. Why such high standards for this man???
How quickly people forget. They want immediate gratification, thinking the 2008 problems will be solved overnight. No attention span. People should remember the 8 years before President Obama, unfortunately they forget all too easily.
Remember who was in charge for the last 2 years of Pres.Bushes administration, DEMOCRATS.
Lizzie, your just a distraction.
Obama 2012
That because he is Nobel Laureate, Law student, went to Harvard. I guess this was expected from someone with so much in his background. He did try to stop the bleeding but then his mind got diverted into divisive issues. He got into the divide and rule conquest. Well he may win using that policy but that is so bad for the country. We need a leader who understands all gamut of the US economy. Not just play partisan politics. Quite lately he is getting into social issue and trying to distract the common mass from issues that matter most. That is Jobs and economy.
You are correct. Those who voted for him should have seen what he was planning. He said he wanted to "change America" and he sure has.
What I would expect from any administration – 1. leadership. 2. a budget 3. tax reform. 4. Campaign finance reform. I did not expect * a 2000 page healthcare bill that nobody, including Obama and Pelosi (who was house leader), * eliminate GM shareholders and hand GM over to the unions. (they should have gone chapter 11 like many large airlines did). * ruining the coal industry with regs. * slighting countries like Englund, Israel, while at the same time bowing down to leaders of countries who HATE US. * cas for clunkers. * an illegal aunt and uncle (the aunt is legal now) the uncle is not and he has been here over 20 years. If you want I can go on and on and on...
Sorry dude! that is how this country running on documentations in detail. You can not produce a few pages of documents for a huge system change if you want to cover in detail of every aspects.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUSH? GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST.
I stand with Obama, the ECONOMY is definently getting better. In Colorado we get 300 sunshine days a year, so solar energy will be great here. We also have a lot of wind in certain areas that allows for Windmills...President Obama is on the right side of the future, when oil drys up the wind will still blow and the sun still shine, it's unlimited energy.
I don't understand anything Romney is saying, cause it doesn't match the reality for most people, of what they are seeing and feeling when it comes to the economy or anything else for that matter.
Pres. Obama deserves re-election. Romney can go count his money in his off-shore accounts.
"A cowpie of distortion." I LOVE IT! I'm going to use that one often, like on here for all the Obama haters and stupid, off topic posters!
Obama is a cow pie and is full of cow pie and only speaks cow pie I guess that is why he knew the word so well.
COW PIE IS A NICE WAY TO PUT IT. THE SADDEST THING IS ROMNEY THINK AND TALK LIKE A BRAIN DEAD. IN HIS WORLD, THERE IS NO HUMAN BEING IN SIGHT. HIS PRODUCTIVITY COUNT HOW MANY MACHINES DEPLOYED, NO WORKER. OF COURSE, HE FIRED THEM ALL. THAT IS COW POO.
obama s U X
Obama – "Their main goal is to create wealth for themselves and their investors." If this is a problem for Obama, then I would say he is truly a Socialist. At one time in the 70's in Jamaica the then Prime Minister Michael Manley said "if you have any intentions of becoming a millionaire there are three flights daily to Miami." Those with ambition and resources followed his advice and left leaving Jamaica with little wealth and fewer jobs created. Why must Obama be such a divider?
Obama is like going back in time to Jimmy Carter. Not sure which one was worse.
Hey John, you must be talking about the last 20 years of the fake republican leadership.
YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW? DO YOUR OWN PICKING: BUSH, CHENEY, ROMNEY, GINGRICH, OR TRUMP.
Obama berating Romney: "Their main goal is to create wealth for themselves and their investors." If that doesn't sound like a true socialist I don't know what does. In the early 70's Michael Manley the Prime Minister of Jamaica who was buddy buddy with Castro said to his fellow Jamaicans "if you have any intention of becoming a millionaire there are daily flights to Miami." Many industrious and hardworking Jamaicans tooks his advice and there was an exodus of capital and expertise leaving Jamaica with fewer jobs and much less prosperity. Obama is a danger to freedom.
So Obama goes to Iowa and says "cow pie" so he'll fit right in, huh?
How endearing (or would that be "pandering"... maybe "arrogant"?).
Obama goin' DOWN!
Clinton was republican? At least he was smart enough to work with the other side not make comments of I won so we do what I want and shove his agenda down the throats of others by bribing fellow democrats to vote on a bill such as health care now even many of them wish they had not done so. Obama has no interest in working with the other side and Harry Reid will not even allow bills passes by the house to come up for votes such as a budget bill that the Dems have not passed one of their own in 3 years.
Willard has become the "madam" to the GOP prostitution ring with Trump as the lead "pimp"! He'll bend over and take on any position as long as long as the payout is right. If he just wants to sleep in the White House, then he can make arrangements with the President. Don't make sense to get the job just to sit on his rear end and scratch his head!
Cow-pie of distortion. If I had a band, I'd name it The Cow-Pies of Distortion – what a piece of phrasing! In fact, I might just have to form a band for the sole purpose of being able to name it The Cow-Pies of Distortion. LMAO! I gotta riff on this for a bit. The Curdled Cream of Repentance. The Grapeskins of Resentment. The Swollen-tissue of Attack Rhetoric. The Toe-Jam of Exaggeration. The Crusted Eyelid of Wariness. Hell, I can't touch Cow-pie of Distortion.
Obama is just a cow pile. So what's the difference between piles? The Obama pile stinks more.
What a desperate cow pile Obama is becoming. Didn't the cow pile give a speech one time about civility?
WAS A GOVERNOR, ROMNEY AVOID TO TELL WHAT HE HAD DONE (WON'T DARE TO GO THERE). AS CEO OF BAIN, HE WON'T DARE TO TELL HOW HE SUCK BLOOD FROM BUSINESS, LEFT THESE WORKERS UNEMPLOYED, LOSS OF PENSION, LOSS OF HEALTH CARE.
COW PIE IS ALREADY THE NICE WAY TO DESCRIB ROMNEY. I WOULD RATHER TELL IT TO HIS STRAIGHT FACE, POO!!! BS!!!
Well, Obama ought to recognize distortion since he engages it is so much. I laugh everytime I hear him or Biden talk about qualifications. The community organizer and the career politician. Neither one of them ever made an honest time in private industry. Go figure the nerve. But then, they play well with some pretty ignorant people.
Better than a rotten rich Mormon, I'll take Obama any day, twice on Sun.
HA! WHAT DO YOU KNOW? OBAMA QUALIFICATION VALIDATED BY THE COUNTRY, BY THE WORLD AND BY NOBEL COMMISSION. ORGANIZER BY DEFINITION IS STRATEGIST, SUPERB LEADERSHIP. OBAMA EARNED IT FOR HIMSELF, AND APPRECIATED BY THE WORLD.
ONLY A FOOL NOT KNOW IT TAKES NO QUALIFICATION TO BE IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY. WITH $69 YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN COMPANY. BUT, IT TAKES A PRESIDENT WITH A WIDE RANGE OF PEOPLE SKILLS TO OVERSEE THEM.
"Cowpie Of Distortion" would be an excellent name for a rock band.
At least a cow pie has some substance.
Obama the amateur has a resume of popcornFarts to his credit.
A cow pie has some substance. Obama, the popcornFart, has none.
try some ice cream on top
breaking News! Mccain just called Romney. Hey Mit your work in the business sector wont work you must bring up lies to distort the truth like we did when we impeached Clinton. just call Newt he'll tell ya all about it.suffering suckatash i'll do that John thanks for the advice..
Remember when the president was (at least publicly) civil? Not any more – not this president anyway.
Well, what else CAN Mittens do? If he does't lie about everything and try to fill people with fear he can't win.
He won't anyway, but that is all he can do.
We all know him to be a liar (aka-flip/flopper) he is a business man and they have to lie to make money.
He is a RepubliCON and they have to lie to get elected.
He is a lie wrapped in untruth wrapped in a liar, in a lie factory, that he will soon buy, fire everyone and make 30 mill.
"A president who broke his promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term has no standing when it comes to fiscal responsibility," — Mitt Romney
This is such a lame attack. We don't even know how close he'll come to keeping that promise, and his ability to keep it is clearly affected by economic conditions beyond his control. Mitt Romney is such a weasel. If you go to Mitt Romney's web site and look at the "Spending" page, on the right hand side it says:
$6.3 trillion – National debt accumulated by first 43 presidents
$6.5 trillion – National debt added by President Obama in one term
The $6.3 trillion figure is debt held by the public and doesn't count $4.3 trillion in intergovernmental holdings. National debt accumulated by first 43 presidents was actually $10.6 trillion, and $4.9 trillion of that was accrued under #43, George Bush.
The $6.5 trillion figure for Obama includes both. That's not honest, because Romney's site is not comparing the same debt. Nor will the debt added in Obama's first term reach the $6.5 trillion mark given that it's only grown by $5 trillion so far. Romney's a snake oil salesman. Much of what Romney says is misleading or outright false. He's counting people being too uninformed to realize that, or too brainwashed to care.
papanez
The First Lady's name is Michelle. Your obvious disrepect for the Obama's and lack of anything intelligent to write shows that you have the I.Q. of a cow-pie.
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Now, now papanez?, I may have the I.Q. of a cow pie; but whatever I am or learned, I owe it all to you! You are the best teacher (possibly master level?) in the whole wide world.
You are so intelligent? that I have decided to emulate you for the rest of my life. There is one exception though. I will NOT "Bend Forward" like you. By the way, a nice friendly suggestion, when you do "Bend Forward", don't forget to apply generous amounts of Vaseline.
I can't think of any good reason why a true American would respect mz obama...when she has made it so very clear she holds America in great contempt...she should not be anywhere near the White House. We will take out this garbage in November and good riddance.
obama mentioned "cow pie"... now that is funny. Myself, well I've thought much the same way of obama's governance (if you can call it that)...only in another word.
The Obama Administration is a cow pie of disfunction.
sO IS YOUR BRAIN A COW PIE OF DISTORTION. Romnry does not have a brain, so it is understandable. he make no sense. People, the job market, the economy, the school system, taking care of the elderly is stopped by the GOP. Because they are afraid of Obama. Guess what? all these obstacles the republicans place in our way, will get them at the voting pole. The reason they are trying to stop us from voting. IT will NOT Work, OBAMA WILL WIN, simple because he's for the citizens of these USA. WE DO NOT CARE WHERE romery is from, We want him back in his make believe hole.
Obama knows poop.
Obama thinks Romney's not qualified to be POTUS? And a community organizer and junior senator is? I vote according to qualification and results and this time around, I will not be voting for Obama.
Baawhaaaahawhawhawhaw! Cow pies are the perfect metaphor for Obama to use in a speech. They are the natural byproduct of his decisions...everything he touches turns into one.
If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black...how does being a community organizer make one qualified for being the president?
at least the rest of us (nonlib) now when we've stepped into or onto a pile of crap or shinola
and the difference thereof.
lol
It shouldn't surprise anyone that Romney has no clue as to what he's talking about....he can't even hold a position on anything for more than 1 week (his latest idiotic blunder saying proudly he'll get unemployment down to 6%, forgetting that 2 weeks before that he stated how anything above 4% is a failure).
I do blame Obama for not having a big enough imagination to realize that the Republicans would actually risk the global economy just to make sure nothing good happens under his watch. I though ultimately common sense would prevail, but the current crop of Republicans has none.
lets forget all the promises that you made to us Mr.obama. lets move forward to nowhere, you go President!!! hey forgot, lets talk about romney what he did 25 years ago, not what you did past 3 years, fair enough????
Since it didn't make any of the major news networks today I wanted to have people look up what info was released along with pictures about our Presidents past drug use. He used to smoke marijuana all of the time which I don't think there is anything wrong with. The problem is that he is cracking down on and trying to put people behind bars for the exact same thing he used to do. It was a big story today so why hasn't it made any major news network? If Obama were caught doing any of the things in his past he would not be the President now. Why does he refuse to even debate the issue of legalization if it was something he did on a regular basis? Obviously he can't say too much bad about it since he used it and became President. I'm sick of him constantly ignoring the issue no mattter how much support it has.
I ask about why the news that came out today about all of the presidents past drug use with marijuana which he fights so hard to keep illegal and they won't post it.
Obama is busy smokin pot somewhere in the Whitehouse.....his voice is starting to grate on me.....i usually turn the volume off when he appears in a disgusting commercial about himself for doing two things......saving GM and killing Osama Bin Laden
Just exactly how would Obama know what a cow pie looked or smelled like? Let me guess, he was born on a farm in Hawaii :-). He may get one or two things right, but I dispute his interpretation of the Constitution and his fitness for the office he currently occupies.
Swaying to the Cow-pieeee... of dis-torrrr-tionnnn!!
I guess it takes one to know one......
Only" DEADBEAT" obama and his super corrupt administration would know anything aobout distortion. That's what comes out of his mouth every time he speaks .
President Obama has increased Federal spending by only 0.4% per annum, or 40 basis points. Strip out inflation, and real government spending is actually falling. There has been no massive increase in spending. It has to do with how various government budgets are approved and implemented, but it’s phenomenal that the average person doesn’t know this. They see a, say, 12.5% increase in the national debt in a given year and apparently don’t even consider that it could have been due to a law from two years ago just now hitting the nation’s balance sheet. Charlie Munger was right. Humanity invented charts as a way of coping with the unfortunate reality that most people can’t process numbers.
Real Presidential comment. He is attacking this hard because he has NOTHING to brag about. His statement that he has spent LESS money than his predecessors is a total joke and shows him for what he is.....
You're exactly right. The Obama administration can only dangle distractions and make fairy tale lies to hide his horrendous leadership. Like Van Jones said, he (and the environmentally-friendly left-wing media) would have seriously attacked Obama over the epic failure of response to the BP oil spill, if he were a Republican.
Same with Solyndra and Fast and Furious and historic spending and the first ever loss of America's prestigious AAA credit rating.
Simply put, if Obama was a Republican, Liberals would be foaming at the mouth, even if he were the "first gay president".
Classy move there Barry, so what is it ... you think the people in Iowa will not understand you unless you make craptastic statements like this???
When a foriegn dignitary from a third world country visits ... will you do a similiar trick???
You are not a leader ... you are a community organizer ... a rabble rouser... I have seen them before in my 60 years
The last President that used such colorful lauguage was Harry Truman. It seems Harry was doing some work in the Rose Garden. Some Reporters asked Harry what he was doing. Harry replied, I am putting some manure around the rose bushes. A little later the reporters got Ms. Truman aside and said, Don;t you think Harry should watch his Langugage.. Ms. Truman replied, you just better let Harry alone. I had enough trouble getting Harry to clean up his Language !!!
I haven't heard Romney say anything that even resembles what Obama is implying. Obama is desperate. The people out there are worried about real issues. Romney is addressing them. It appears Obama is not, or doesn't know how.
Well duh, it's politics. 99% of what any politician does or says is distorted
I'm tyring to remember the last time Obama told the truth about anything...talk about slinging cowpies...
President Obama is right Romney's rhetroic is a cow pie of "Distortion!!! Ive said from the beguining Romney is full of "Cow pie"!! He's made many untrue statements, he's accused President of bringing America further in debt,the debt left by G.W.Bush!!! Romney and Repulicans need to look back Nixion,Reagon,G.W.H.Bush and his son G.W.Bush look who spent the money!! You the Republican Party and your Feerless leader G.W.Bush left us in this mess!!! Who did the worse job now??????????
Our debt is over 16 trillion dollars when Bush left office it was 10 trillion. How can you justify the extra six trillion as not new debt? Obama has lived off the government credit card most of his life how would he know how to create jobs or pay down his bills? On the other hand Romney has been a successful person most of his life. Obama was a community organizer (what in the heck is that?). He spent all his time as IL senator campaigning for US senate and spent his only two years as US senator campaigning for President. Now he is spending all his time campaigning for another four years. No thanks, enough of his great spender!!
Because much of the Bush administration debt that we currently owe is principle and interested pushed forward to be paid later after his term.
Take just the Iraq War it was costing American taxpayers $720 million a day in 2007...but only $280 million per day was being appropriated by congress the other $440 million per day was being charged on the national credit card to be paid off in the future. Just the interest on that one part of the national debt is huge.
And that big Rethugliklan lie about all the money we owe China. The bulk of the money that is loaned to the Federal Government has been directly taken from the Social Security Fund and Government retirees pension funds. We only owe China 8% of the national debt....the real people holder's of the debt are: Social Security, U. S. Civil Service, and Military Trust Funds who own 62.2% of the national debt.
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2011/08/pie-chart-of-who-owns-the-national-debt-mid-2011.html
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-01-14/markets/29973919_1_national-debt-public-debt-oil-exporters
Ralph The national debt was racked up under George W. Bush. The Iraq War cost $720 million per day..but only $280 million per day was being appropriated the only $440 million per day was being charged on the national credit card. That is just one part of the debt that was pushed forward and which we owe plus interest.
Rethugliklans state we owe this huge debt to China ...cow pie we owe China 8% of the national debt the largest holder of the national debt is seniors, government employees and military retirees. Social Security, U.S. Civil Service and Military Pensions are owed 62.2% of the national debt.
Hey Jean2009 is that Bush debt that he left while democrats were in charge of his congress? Dems like junior inexperienced senator Barry Hussein Obama? Guess some of that blame can go around, Bush sure for signing off on too many Democrat expenditures..............but the sad fact? Barry Hussein has spent more than Bush did in 8 years his first year and a half in office....
There are still real problems out there in the country. Hsve you bought a week's worth of groceries lately? Filled up your car's gas tank? Paid an electric bill? Those are the real problems. And do you have a job or are you living on unemployment and maybe food stamps?
Obama's plan is to Tax the So-Called Rich more. The problem with that is there will be no one hired. Unemployment is stagnent now. About half of the people aren't paying any taxes. It is time for all the people to start paying. I don't know who changed the tax code as the Media doesn't report it. This statment by Obama shows his true colors. You can defend him if you want to. Hell, I'm super rich. I don't have to worry. Don't I wish. If you are a bottom feeder don't expect any change if Obama is Re-Elected. We are borrowing about 40 cents of every dollar we spend. 75 Years of Liberal Big Social Programs put in place by Democrats have solved nothing. Wise up.
There is an election coming. You will have to decide which side you are on. Personal Responsibility or Food Stamps. Ain't it amazing. After 75 years of big ideas and we are right back to the 1930's.
Great comment, coming from President Pinnochio. Keep drinking the cool aid CNN!
Is Obama trying to impress anybody with his "cow pie" comments? Everyone knows that he means bull...t. As he has been going down in most polls, he has gotten meaner and nastier. I suppose we ain't seen nuttin' until it's all said and done. Obama will fight for a second term in the White House – but the lower he gets in the polls, the nastier he will get. This is just a preview of attractions yet to come.
Obama is getting very nasty as his poll numbers are going down. No he is resorting to "cow pies", a.k.a bull..... He might want to catch a few of those pies. Is November not here soon so we can vote this guy out of the White House?
Cow pie? Sure America has a walking, talking cow pie. Barrack Obama. This guy spreads more manure than a heard of elephants daily. And the truly sad fact is some 40% of Americans eat the stuff up.
No president in history has lied more, divided more, or spent more..........spent more in fact than all the other presidents combined............I know how we can save energy, hook a windmill up to Barry's teleprompter that hot air could run a city, or at least a village of idiots.
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Obama,
Occidental college record.... Sealed
Columbia college record..... Sealed
Columbia Thesis record.....Sealed
Harvard college record..... Sealed
Selective Service Registration..... Sealed
Medical Records..... Sealed
Illinois State Senate Schedule ....Sealed
Illinois State Senate Record..... Sealed
Law practice client list.... Sealed
Certified copy of original birth certificate ..... Sealed
Signed Embossed, paper certification of Live Birth.... Sealed
Baptism paper.....Sealed
Michell Obama can no longer practice law WHY?
Foreign Student loan as a college student
Used which country's passport when he visited Pakistan in 1981
WHAT IS THIS PRESIDENT HIDING AND WHY
The BIGGEST COW PIE OF ALL – Ordinary Americans DO NOT HAVE ACCESS to the SAME TAX LOOPHOLES as the RICH.
TWO AMERICAS......The BEST FOR THEM (even though the regular guy helped pay for it) and WHAT'S LEFT-OVER FOR THE REST OF US!
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