June 14th, 2012
05:04 PM ET
Obama outlines 'choice' in NovemberCleveland, Ohio (CNN) – As President Barack Obama found himself literally on opposite sides of Mitt Romney Thursday – the rivals were campaigning on either ends of battleground Ohio – he sought to frame the election as a choice between two dramatically disparate views on how to fix the economy. "What's holding us back is a stalemate in Washington of two fundamentally different views of which direction America should take. This election is your chance to break that stalemate," Obama said. At only his second official campaign event this cycle, Obama told a vocal crowd gathered at Cuyahoga Community College that November "is not simply a choice between two candidates or two political parties, but between two paths for our country." For the full story, click here. |
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Bush started with a surplus and left behind a 7.5 trillion deficit and an economy in free-fall toward the abyss. Should Obama have fought for a larger stimulus, you bet!! But with the Senate filibusters and the Republican House majority in 2010, the GOP has done everything it could to stonewall on the economy and try to bring Obama down.. This has been their openly stated strategy from Day One. With a job loss rate of 700,000 per month in 2009 it was a amazing that Obama converted the trend to job gains adding 4.5 million in the last two years. Had Romney been in the White House we would now be living in the second Great Depression. His approach is no different than that of Herbert Hoover in1929. Furthermore he has surrounded himself with Bush's economic advisers. Romney will mean more financial pain for working families than they can bear.
Here is the Washington Post block graphs of who spent the most. At this point, and through the year 2017 President Obama's spending amounts to $983 billion where as George W. Bush's share of the deficit spending (racked up on the national credit card) leaving us with a big hole of interest...
Frankly instead of not spending in a recession we should be spending and taxes should increase.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/column-doing-the-math-on-obamas-deficits/2011/08/25/gIQALDBchQ_blog.html
Liberals can not handle the truth. They always have to lie.
The truth is the nation was in debt when President Bush took office.
Jan 20, 2001 = $ 5,728,195,796,181.
Jan 20, 2009 = $10,626,877,048,913.
Jun 13, 2012 = $15,735,182,423,771.
take a look for your self. The Treasury tracks every penny. You can look up any date and see the official amount of debt.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway
And George W. Bush's share of that debt from 2009-2012 is $4.1trillion in unfunded programs and the unfunded wars he left behind.
BTW...New email address means I've updated my name...still me jean2009.
Well I guess they are letting me use the old name. Great!
Both parties can take plenty of responsibility for the debt. LBJ's medicare sure got the boulder moving though.
I find it amazing that the dems, and especially Obama, are still blaming Bush. I can only imagine that the dems think Bush is a really powerful person for him to still be driving the economy almost 4 years after he left office.
I could be wrong, but as an Independent I really do not think blaming Bush will get Obama votes from Independents.
I think we should be blaming Carter. If the economy that he inherited had continue to grow, we probably would not be in the situation that we currently find ourselves. Leave it to Democrats to screw up the economy. The only reason Clinton didn't screw it up is beacuse Congress was controlled by Republicans.
That's like saying the person who caused the cancer is not to blame just because the cancer lives more than 3 1/2 years. It's Bush's economy until it can be turned around, no matter how long it takes.
The Bush-caused avalanche/disaster is still his avalanche/disaster even though it cannot be turned around as fast as it was started.
Have you considered Reagan....http://www.politicususa.com/big-government-obama-reagan.html
Amen.
Typical CNN/MSNBC sound bite. Truth is Romneys plan seeks to reduce taxes, spending, regulation, and government programs. It seeks to increase trade, energy production, human capital, and labor flexibility. It relinquishes power to the states instead of claiming to have the solution to every problem by borrowing money from China and creating more government jobs instead of private sector jobs, its the private sector jobs that create revenue for the tax base and can help reduce the debt, adding government jobs does nothing for the economy. Obama wants you to believe its grid lock in Congress not to pass a job's bill, but that is simply not true it will only increase the deficit and our obligation to China.
Obama would love nothing more than for Mitt to let up on Obama's failed economic policies and failed jobs numbers. Romney is doing the correct thing, stay on message, pound away at the very thing that is most affecting America today!
Bottom line, we cannot afford 4 more years of fiscal irresponsible social spending and kicking the can down the road!
But we don't have a choice this year. Both Romney and Obama work for the same corporations and wall street banks. Both are for more war, more spending and debt, and less freedom.
This year's election is like voting to get either AIDS or cancer. Neither are acceptable.
I'm voting for Ron Paul. I'm not a brainwashed sheep.
Ron Paul is an idiot.
I'd put Paul way ahead of Maher in terms of laughs...
Is Maher running?
That makes him more intelligent that Obama.
jean2009
Is Maher running?
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For president? No!
At the mouth? Yes!
@Steveo
Is Rush Limbag running...No!
Is Sean Hannity running.. No!
Is Bill O'Reilly running....No!
At the mouth Yes!
So I take it your point is: Only radical right wing conservatives should be allowed 1st amendment rights?
A successful businessman vs A failed community leader.
The choice IS VERY clear...
It takes more smarts and harder work to be a community organizer than to be head delegator with OPM (Other People's Money – including his dad's).
It's a Reality – a Real Choice, not your contrived misguided one.
Obama-Biden 2012-2016!
FORWARD!
Mr. President, I donate to your campaign and I think you should put Simpson Bowles on the table and make a bold economic move. Let's get everyone on the record as to where they stand on getting this country out of the hole it is in.
People are on the record. Obama has no new ideas – just tax and spend.
And, BTW, do we all remember when Obama was called a liar because he said illegals were not provided with healthcare?
See below from the Boston Herald newspaper;
Many families and small business owners are finding MassHealth a disaster. According to the non-partisan Galen Institute, the average health insurance costs for a family of four in Massachusetts now stand at $14,723, which is 12 percent higher than the national average. Illegal aliens in the state are a major part of the problem.
Current Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick admits their presence among MassHealth subscribers. In the first nine months of 2010, the estimated cost of MassHealth for “illegal immigrants” was placed at $33.8 million, with illegal aliens constituting 69 percent of all subscribers. In addition, an estimated 52,000 illegal aliens used free emergency room services at a cost of $35.7 million, funded by taxpayers.
I know where our president wants to go. Getting there has been the problem with all the repos opposing every move. Even so he has made progress and I don't want to go back . Milk toast will take us back . I guess if your well off you wont care you will get your tax breaks while the middle class foots the bill. Unless you have kids with health issues or are caring for aging parents you arent worried about health care. Foeward 2012 lets finish the job
Yes, this is it!!! To the GOP you need to take out a big hammer, show them 'HOW". To independents, you explain "how" and what it meant to them personally, and to their future. Keep at it. Karl Rowe will go nuts, Fox will dig their own hole, and Linbaugh, hxxx with him!
Simpson Bowles and Dream act will come front and center in your second term. You are more than capable to deliver. The country is grateful to your service, President. God bless you, go for it.
Considering the history of Mr. Obama's last three years in office, why would anyone not look favourably upon Mr. Romney, who is an adult whose has made his way in a grown up world, rather than Mr. Obama who is still playing at being a grown up?
Oh, I forgot. The Americans voted on a teenager who was raised on Mars in 2008.
No that was the race in 2000.
no, your birth certificate told you came from Luna
you weren't old enough to vote or to tell, right? ask your mom.
Why? Because anyone with a brain will know the 3 years has been trying to unscramble the rotten mess Bush put us in – this is BUSH's economy until we've overcome the debts and lost jobs and downward spiral CAUSED on his watch.
Why would they not look favorably on Romney?
Maybe because they took a look at his record as gov of Mass.
Maybe they want more than 47th in job creation.
Maybe they want more than huge debt.
Maybe they want more that a health care plan great for Mass but supposedly not for America.
Maybe they want more than an eternal spinless flip-flopper.
Maybe they want more than a pack of lies.
Why would they not look favorably on Romney?
Maybe because they took a look at his record as gov of Mass.
Maybe they want more than 47th in job creation.
Maybe they want more than huge debt.
Maybe they want more that a health care plan great for Mass but supposedly not for America.
Maybe they want more than an eternal spineless flip-flopper.
Maybe they want more than a pack of lies.
Take a look at the official unemployment numbers. Those Bush years don't look so bad. The country wen to heck after the election.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Economist do not agree.
Facts You Should Know..... Life doesn't give you a history makeover.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3490
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/article/Bush-tanked-the-U-S-economy-1261367.php
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/majority-still-hold-bush-responsible-for-poor-economy/
Economist do not agree with the official numbers? Wow, I guess if you don't agree with the truth then just make something up. It's the liberal way.
listen up! There is no one in the world that would agree...who can think...the world is better off because obama is in power....WE HAVE A HORRIBLE MESS WORLD WIDE because of this incompetant pseudo-president ran wild. God help us.
Obamas last three years have been better than under a repo. Need much more work but we are headed in the right direction and if we can vote the repo liers out we can move forward. Mitt is a wishey washey puppet of the big money guys who pull the srtrings and tell him what to do. Hey you don't get to be a bishop for nothing the church will be pulling his strings too. The repo platform is made up of nothing but lies and they will do anything to keep from passing anything this president puts forth to help the economy. Obama 2012
Better than under the Republicans? Each of President Bush's unemployment numbers are better than Obama's. Take the time to look at the official government numbers.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
The largest factor driving this country's economy into recession has been the Bush administration's profligate spending. Please read the following quote from the conservative/libertarian think tank Cato Institute's Web site:
"George Bush is mired in a fiscal policy crisis worse than anyone could have envisioned when he entered the Oval Office ... This crisis is the resurgence of record federal deficits ... The deterioration of America's fiscal health cannot be blamed on ... pro-spending coalitions in the Democrat-controlled Congress - although certainly some of the blame lies there. It is almost exclusively the creation of the Bush administration itself."
Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/article/Bush-tanked-the-U-S-economy-1261367.php#ixzz1xz7v8JAP
YOU are one twisted sister...have you been living under a rock?
obama was heckeled by a reporter in the rose garden this morning as he gave his imigration speach...would not take questions...isn't it about time we had a good old fashion press conference where the press from other than friendly organizations get to ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS of this pseuto-president?
The liberals loved it when President Bush had a shoe thrown at him. Just look at Obama sideways and you would think the world had ended.
More like the repugnicant way.
DUH! He takes questions at – drum roll – press conferences, not DURING a speech. Is that too hard for you to understand?
You fool. A news conference is made in the media room. A presidential announcement is made in the Rose Garden. This idiot doesn't even know protocol. His parents nor his kintergarden teacher didn't teach him well. Someone should put him in a room let him sit out think through what the h... he thinks he was doing. a no brain idiot.
Repugs.... don't understand the difference between an announcement and a press conference.
Announcement=a statement is made and no questions are taken
Press Conference=questions from the Press accepted.
Obama's biggest failure is convincing people his Mother was white. Other than that he is playing shephard to an economy that wont grow because if it does he will be reelected and the Democrats will have the coveted top dog spot twice in 8 years. The nerve that they can think that.
President, your vision of choice cannot be more clear. The people are with you. Set the agenda, drive the debate, GOP will just wag their tails and follow.
In the famous words of Steven Tyler and Aerosmith... DREAM ON!
Jay in NC makes sense. Thanks Jay. These liberals just cant face the fact that we have an inept loser for a president!
Even some life long Dem's i know have come to grips with it. Just admit this guy is a phoney. GBush and his wife went to Ft Hood the night of the terrorist shooting by one of Obama's cousins. Where was Oblameo? Hiding somewhere trying
to figure out how to "spin" it. They called it a man made disaster?!? Axelrod, Immanuel, Reid, Pelosi and the rest are the party of gay marriage, racism,lies and deceit!
@Badboy.....And yet another myth proved false by Snopes.com and Urban Legends. Right wing teapotty idiots only dredge up unfounded false KKK based lies...for a fact.....that is truly inept.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_kenya.htm
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp
.....and if you need a lie pie library of Obama falsehoods for future reference here is the source.
http://www.liepie.com/grannys-entire-collection-of-lie-pies/133-obamas-not-exactlys
What's holding us back is two different views in Washington. One, "send" us all your money and we will take care of you. Never mind that unemployment is an offical 8.2 percent and unoffically 14 to 18 percent.if you re-elect us there will be no jobs growth of any consequence but you will have food stamps and maybe some unemployment benifits.
The other, take personal responsibility for your welfare and don't depend on the government for your welfare. It used to be that way before all the big social programs and will be again. Since we are not going to change anything you will need to elect a new leader. It's your choice. Good luck.
If the private sector is the answer, just exactly where are the jobs?????????
Most people would take a job in a heart beat if they could just find one.
Mitt Romney who dodged the draft, and his 5 sons will never serve....would start WWIII if he was President....Conservative Religious Politicians should not be given the Commander in Chief Job...They just want to bring on the End of Days Apocalypse, just to prove their religion is right....
Isn`t it about time about time we started pressing Romney for concrete answers. Instead of listening to him say I will do this and i will do that. What specificly will he do. Then we will see how his tea party allies like him when he stats moving to the center which he has to do in order to have any chance at all.
the problem is no one knows what either obama or romney will do for the economy. Have you heard a detailed plan? Every four years the president or president elect talks around the issues while never saying anything of consequence. If Romney is elected the democrats will try to block everything around and around we go. Obama had a democrat controlled congress for two years and chose to focus his political capital on an unpopular healthcare bill. The economy was the problem then and is now. He should have focused on the economy. However, obama has zero ideas on how to stimulate the private sector which is the engine of the economy. His idea has been to grow government jobs. Our tax dollars pay govt salaries. Tax revenue does not increase at a meaningful level by taxing the rich more. Tax revenue increases only from a broader tax base. Private sector job growth is the only way to increase the tax base. Tax the rich more is just a talking point that will never get us out of this mess. Since obama has no clue about the private sector, Romney is the only choice.