February 5th, 2013
08:06 AM ET
Tuesday, February 5: White House puts focus on immigration
While President Obama spent Monday discussing his gun control agenda, Tuesday is all about immigration. The president is holding two high profile meetings with among the highest stakeholders in the debate - business leaders and union groups. Members from both groups have said they support immigration reform but are wary some actions could negataively affect an already fragile economy.
9:45AM THE PRESIDENT receives the Presidential Daily Briefing
11:00AM THE PRESIDENT meets with progressive and labor leaders
3:20PM THE PRESIDENT meets with business leaders
4:30PM THE PRESIDENT meets with Secretary of Defense Panetta
1:00PM Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney
Well there is nothing like ignoring the Budget Nea?
Why hasn't CNN written on the fact that for the third time, Obama has missed the deadline for submitting his budget? I read that in today's Washington Post. Yet, I can't find anything on CNN's website.
The United States has not passed an actual real budget since 1997. Bill Clinton was President, Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House.... and only on his second wife.
And Clinton was on his third affair with a girl his daughter's age.
While Newt was cheating with the young Calista and pushing for impeachment for Clinton for lying at the same time Newtie Boy was. Such low-life activies on both men's parts (pun intended).
Although I do agree that the impeachment was over the top, Newt did not lie under oath. Personally, I find the actions of both disgraceful. I simply don't condone cheating no matter who you are.
Obama needs to stay out. All I can see him doing is derailing any chance of legislation from Congress.
Budget?? The King doesn't need no stinking budget!! Besides, he is above the law..........
How about jobs ???? what a joke hes shooting picture !!!!!!!!!!
Right hand extended too far, stock setting too high on shoulder, tense arm muscles=holding gun too tight, sight line too low as well as shooting too low, not leaning into the shot, appears to have extended choke on upper barrel but not on the lower... I shoot sporting clays all the time, this man does not......
Define "all the time"? Is that every other week? Every week? Tuesdays and Thursdays? Noontime tea? Please send us a pic.
Ok, you got me, but since I live in the frozen tundra, I'm limited to my gun clubs’ schedule, March-October. During that time, I get in at least 100rnds a weekend with my son, that's two 50rnd sporting clays. Once during the week for our league shoot, that's another 50rnds. Travel to a few charity events throughout the year along with a local one , Miracle for Mitch Foundation. Flying to Houston in March for the Carl McCain Foundation Tournament. Do the Boot's in Shoot in San Antonio. Let's see, oh, NFL Alumni shoot Super Bowl weekend in Dallas couple years ago, that was lots of fun. Throw in pheasant, grouse and dove hunting on top of all that. By no means am I an expert but avg 42-44/50, best score 48/50. Still chasing the elusive perfect 50/50. I shoot a Beretta 686 White Oynx O/U 12ga. w/ improved choke on the upper and modified choke on the lower and prefer Fiocchi brand ammo. Have plenty of pics but can't post them here.........
Forgot, has 30in barrel....... and yes, it is a pain flying around with a firearm but worth it...........
It seems to me that you do shoot actively enough to be considered to be doing it 'all the time' and I don't see anything wrong with that. You don't have to send a pic, I believe you.
Having said that, what does your proficiency have anything to say about your stance on gun violence? Absolutely nothing, at least nothing that you would have already said separately otherwise. The same goes for the President, picture or no picture.
Really how can alphabetguy be at all these shooting events when he is on here every day shooting off his mouth?
As usual you show how ill informed you are. acdc i would bet is a regular shooter. you clearly dont have a manly hobby, barbie dolls ???
didnt have to obse its clear its a fake just like the bamman, pls get your nose out of his behind
take that back, some airports are easier than others, depends what part of the country you are going through......
Sounds more like you went through all the shooting events around the country listed in your trusty shooters magazine and listed them for us to THINK you'll really go. Just like your charity picks from the commercials on TV. Trying to impress who again?? Yawn........ZZzzzzzzzz.
P.S. Valentine's Day is Feb. 14th. Please don't tell us you think it's romantic to get the little woman a box of bullets with a bow on it.
The president's shooting stance will be some different than that for a right-handed shooter....he is left-handed.
Jean, that's like saying left handed people ride a bike different than right handed people. Technique is still all the same......but i'll let you slide, good try tho......
My left-handed younger brother got on and off his bicycle from the other side than I, a right-handed person, did. He almost wrote upside down on his school papers so the writing would turn out right-side up.
@ acdcguy – would you still be able to free yourself from a long and tangled telephone cord if it was twisted to the left? Or, would it be harder the other way around, say, if it was twisted to the right??........I'll just enjoy the thought of watching you do it.....PLEASE feel free to send pictures.
Ask a knitter or a person who crochets...or a golfer...some people who are left handed have a real problem learning to do those types of activities.
Also, I don't know what you have read about the shooting range at Camp David was installed during the Eisenhower term.....but it is actually stocked with both right and left handed guns. There are actually pictures online of John F. Kennedy shooting at the Camp David retreat with David Niven and Ben Bradley. Plus, Kennedy's shooting stance is just the opposite but the exact same stance as President Obama's.
I really was planning on ignoring some these ignorant responses but now it's just gotten funny........right and left handed guns, yes they do make them, they are semi-auto's, shells eject from the side, so yes would be important to use a compatible model so not to eject shells toward your face.....O/U, over/under, as The King is shooting, there is only one kind, can be shot by left hander or right hander as you determine where u want the shells to eject or just grab the empties to save if you are a re-loader. Ref: riding a bike, as in riding, not getting on or off a bike. Ref: my shooting activities and/or charities, .really don't care if you believe me or not, just shows your bitterness towards others.........as for the tangled telephone cord, I got nothing..............good luck!!!!
Its clear this is one of very many subjects you know nothing about. the pic is a fake just like the jerk in it !!!!
I do not have time to print the lies this guy has told , the pics just another
Please just quit making excuses for this under achiever loser
@acdcguy – AND preparing to shoot a gun – stance – IS DIFFERENT THAN the actual shooting of the gun.
Cynthia L....... smoke coming out of the barrel? my book, he's shooting........ok, enough of this silliness...... I'll wait for another topic to pop up and dazzle you with my brilliance.......
Okay, acdcguy, he IS shooting, and by the other poof of smoke over the barrel, it was at least a second shot. He was riding the bike. He was following the skeet to his left. When we shot skeet from a ground level position of the skeet launcher, it was different from a range whose clay-pigeons were launched from a higher position. Ground game take-off vs. game already flying across the horizon at a higher level proved my father had better success with the ground take-offs than those that were already in full-flight. I'm looking for a photo taken of my dad shooting in a cornfield at a pheasant after take-off.
My question is this, my dad was 6'3" which of course gave him longer arms than a shorter man. I would think that the leverage difference is somewhat of an issue in just that area alone if the shooter is to balance the rifle with the offset of the balance of his own body height and reach and would place a different hand-set.
Nobody on here thinks Obama is a regular gun shooting guy, and neither was my dad. But, the proof of the pudding would still be if he actually scored a hit – good hand position or not. AND THAT we don't know. Cheers.
The Nat'l Shooting Sports Foundation, who helped with the shooting range at Camp David just came out with advice for Obama on shooting. Here's what they said;
Leaning further forward into the shot to better manage recoil w/ feet shoulder width apart. Since Obama is shooting left-handed, he may want to look into another stock cast AND if getting a custom gun, to make sure they measure his length of pull first. Proper gun fit makes an enormus difference in accuracy and of the enjoyment of the sport.
Well alphetbet guy you just proved you know very little about guns.
The difference between a right-handed and left-handed rifle or shotgun is this:
"The side from which the spent cartridges eject, and the placement of the bolt, are the only differences. There are single shot rifles, as well as bottom-ejecting rifles, which are ambidextrous. The right or left "handedness" of a long gun has nothing to do with accuracy. It only makes a difference in your comfort when ejecting shells, or which hand you use to cycle the bolt on a bolt action rifle.
The difference between a "right handed" and "left handed" shotgun stock is the way it is cast. Cast is the direction it is offset from the center of the barrel. "Most" right handed shooters require cast off which means, from the right shoulder, the stock is offset away from the rib allowing some space for your face. "Cast on" is what most leftys shoot which means, from the right shoulder, the stock is closer to your face than the rib. From the left shoulder, this then allows room for your face."
Not all manufacturers cast for the difference...but several do.
This was posted by the National Shooting Sports Federation that supplied the updated equipment for the skeet range at Camp David: "In the statement, the NSSF also offered Obama a bit of constructive criticism on his shooting stance: “Mr. President, try leaning a little further forward into the shot to better manage recoil. Keep your feet about shoulder width apart, and put more weight on your leading foot.” Because the president is a lefty, Keane recommended he try one of the left-handed semiautomatic shotguns that have also been donated to Camp David.- Larry Keane President NSSF on PBS Frontline wwwpbs.org
Well alphabet guy you better do some serious education about guns you just showed how lacking you are in that field. There are right and left cast shotguns and rifles with different bolt action set up and shell ejecting configurations on the market to accommodate those who use either their right or left hand. Not all companies make them, but they were supplied for the range at Camp David by the professionals that set up that range..
I am being held up by the moderator....but some research should get you to that informaiton.
There is actually a short YouTube video of John Kennedy and Jackie shooting skeet at Camp David.
First of all, the article is about immigration, not Obama's shooting form.
With regards to immigration, I haven't heard anyone suggesting that America should take responsibility for allowing 12 million people to enter our country and/or overstay their visas. Admittedly, a criminal is a criminal. But, who can blame people for seeking a better life for their families?
We allowed them to enter illegally. So, we only have ourselves to blame. I suggest that we secure our borders to stop the immigrants from entering the country illegally; say, "Fair enough." to those who are already here; and say, "Get in line." to those who want future citizenship.
Speak for yourself, i didnt allow it, voted against it, if you voted for it enjoy it. point being with the bamaman a fake picture is worth a thousand words, the man is a joke and the world knows it.
Obsessing over a picture which cannot be proven fake is a sign of low intelligence. Move on. What difference does it make in your life that the President can shoot skeet or not?
And what does it mean you didn't vote for it? You cannot vote on legislation unless you are a member of Congress (in which case, what the heck are you doing here?) You most probably voted for the Republican President (Reagan) that introduced said legislation that provided amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants last time.
Actually December, it may not be a bad idea if members of Congress entered the forum. Then they would know more about what the public thinks. I have sent comments to Congress members before. All I get in return is the same old form letter. I would bet anything they never read anything I sent.
Caramon – as much as I hear what you are saying about 'not getting a response', I am happy that you haven't given up AND still post here. Cheers,.....even if you don't like my response.
I guess I shouldn't really rule out Moose being a Congressman. Their hours are flexible enough to loiter around here I suppose.
The last time I actually got a response from anyone in Congress was in response to a form letter opposing SOPA. It was from Senator Menendez of all people and I am guessing all the uproar from so many people on the Internet just couldn't be ignored. I guess it takes a united front with some powerful allies like the tech giants to get any response.
Menendez still sends greetings once in a while, which is creepy given the scandal he is in.
Well thank you Cynthia. I may not agree with what you say. But will always support your right to say it.
Don't give me that lame phony I didn't vote for it...if you pay taxes and live in this country you didn't do anything to stop it so yes...you voted for it.
Since 1986, we have passed seven amnesty bills for those illegally in this country...none of which are effective at stopping illegal immigration. Reagan's 1986 bill that granted amnesty to 3 million was supposed to impose strict sanctions against employers who hired illegal aliens. Well Hello! that part of the legislation was pulled out of the bill at the last minute by Republicans, because of the outcry from Republican employers.
So get off the "I didn't vote for it" Illegal immigration didn't just come into being during the last four years..it has been around for decades. Some of those here illegally have grandchildren born in this country.
Moose as a Congressman?? More suited to Donald Trump's charity, Hair Club for Men.
Throbbing member 2012 – "what difference does it make"? I will give you the same answer Hilliary should have been given when she said this about Bengazi. It would be the difference between telling the truth or telling a lie.
WE allowed them in? I am NOT in charge of any santcuary city, are you? You know those guys that decided not to enforce the law but rather turn a blind eye? Nice try but unless you are talking about the WE that keeps voting in these non law enforcing knuckle heads, your point about WE is without merit!
If you didn't vote you have no right to complain. If you voted and you lost ....tough we can't help it you pick losers!
So Jean, how did you feel when you voted for Carter in 1980 and Kerry in 2004?
You are making ZERO sense! How did talking about illegal aliens turn into whether or not I voted, which I did. Would you like some bacon to go along with that egg on your face? Keep up with the topic, please!
I like Rubio's plan
It and the White House plan look a lot alike...that's why Cantor doesn't like Rubio's plan.
There are similarities, but they are NOT the same
Unemployment is only at 7.9%... screw American citizens!!!
Home Depot plans to hire 80,000 new employees this summer.
Let's not kid ourselves, this is another blanket amnesty for illegals and has nothing to do with legal immigration.
Just today I read that Baltimore is facing Bankruptcy and the Post Office is ending Saturday Delivery! But the Private Sector is doing fine! However I also read that the Budget Deficit will be around only some 850 Billion next, or, this year! I could care less how Obama holds his Skeet gun. Getting with the ordnary people is a good thing. But, where are those Harvard Grades when you need them?
I agree. F the economy.
Have hair and chicks dig it, got any chubby chasers after you !!!!!!!!
Well, I would imagine if you've been working for Hair-Plugs of America you'd have replaced your baldspots by now. And, forget it Moose, your chubbiness doesn't do it for me. Hair or not.