February 7th, 2013
08:06 AM ET
Thursday at the White House: Prayer and retreat President Obama begins his Thursday with the National Prayer Breakfast at the Washington Hilton. Every president since Dwight D. Eisenhower has attended the breakfast, sponsored by the Fellowship Foundation. This will be President Obama's fifth time attending and making remarks. Then later today, he heads to Leesburg, Virginia to attend the House Democrats' retreat at the Lansdowne Resort. He'll make remarks at 12:30p before returning to the White House later this afternoon. For the full guidance released by the White House, click below. EST 7:00AM In-Town Pool Call Time 8:05AM THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT, and THE FIRST LADY attend the National Prayer Breakfast; THE PRESIDENT delivers remarks Washington Hilton (Pooled Press) 11:15AM THE PRESIDENT departs the White House en route Leesburg, Virginia South Lawn (Open Press) 11:40AM THE PRESIDENT arrives Leesburg, Virginia In-Town Travel Pool Coverage 12:30PM THE PRESIDENT delivers remarks at the House Democratic Issues Conference Lansdowne Resort, Lansdowne, Virginia (Pooled Press) 1:55PM THE PRESIDENT departs Leesburg, Virginia In-Town Travel Pool Coverage 2:20PM THE PRESIDENT arrives the White House South Lawn (Open Press) Briefing Schedule 10:00AM Off-Camera Press Gaggle by Press Secretary Jay Carney ### |
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Wonder if he brought his own prayer rug........
Probably borrowed from your mother.
Wow! Never expected that from you!
If you think I was insulting his mother, say so. Because, it just might be the truth that she has one. Then of course, what would you be outraged about? By the way, why are you outraged? Could it be that,.......no, you aren't prejudiced against prayer rugs.....are you? Are you?
@ Moose – You have me ROTFL!
So you can tell that I am "outraged" by my six little words? Perhaps I am only sharing an observation that I have not seen you speak like this before. No I am not prejudiced against prayer rugs or rosery beads or anything else! Shall I say that twice, since you asked twice?, I personally don't use them but feel free if you do! I am just noting a difference in the tone of your remarks! Nothing more nothing less. BTW, I am not outraged! Should I be?
I'm glad you aren't outraged, Steveo. Change in tone? I am after all, someone's mother, and just like acdcguy AND Obama, they are someone's sons. As are you. Maybe I should have asked instead if his mother would have loaned the President one IF he had asked her? I'm sure that acdcguy would still love his mother IF she had a prayer rug as, I'm sure you would. Would he still love her if she loaned her prayer rug to the President? I have no idea. But, he might not.
I however, would be very disappointed in my sons if they were prejudiced against any religion. After all, Freedom of Religion is a right in this country. And personally, I feel that FREEDOM FROM RELIGION should be added to the Bill of Rights as well.
At any rate, I believe in prayer (whether someone uses a rug or not), isn't that what this article is about?
Cynthia L.....In your eyes, the King can do no wrong. If he declared the sky was purple, you would argue with us that its no longer blue......agree , I say things sometimes just to ruffle feathers but its all in fun....... Would love to take you shooting one day!!!!
I am throwing no stones.. I am just saying that you are one of the few voices of reason here and (to me) your "Momma" comment seemed out of the norm for you. That's all! I am a Christian and I have served in uniform with folks of other faiths, one in particular was a very devout Muslim. So no I am not prejudiced I don't share that faith but not prejudiced! As far as freedom from religion, that already exists. People are free to choice to worship or not. I don't need to became an underground Christian to appease someone because they choose not to worship! Jesus never made anyone believe nor did clam up because folks decided not to believe. I guess I would like you to explain "freedom FROM religion". Does that mean no preaching on TV or radio, no street preaching? I am trying to get a feel of what that would mean to you. Thanks
acdcguy, I don't know any kings. AND SOMETIMES the sky is purple not blue. As far as shooting, I'd rather go ride a horse. But, thanks for the invite.
To answer you, Steveo, about my comment Freedom From Religion – I came to that along time ago. I was never Christian enough for some because I refuse to go to church and follow whatever they said I was to follow. To me nature was my church and still is. I get so weary of those who say you are not a true believer because of this or that. It is a problem in all religions but, not a problem with all people, I know. Only our creator knows what is in our hearts and personally I don't think I need to belong to anything but who or what I think I belong to without the middleman. Some don't believe at all and that is their choice as long as they aren't trying to convince me one way or another. Peace on all you mothers, fathers, sons and daughters. You are in my prayers no matter what. Isn't that what matters?
Thanks Cynthia, I did not want to make any as-sumptions. I appreciate it and have a better idea of where you are coming from.
I have a question for Cynthia and anyone else who would like to contribute. I also worked with a person from India who was Muslim. He cut a special piece of bench kote (spelled correctly) that he would set aside, keep clean and use each day for his afternoon prayers. The prayers were done in one of our rooms. Since I worked in academia, a state institution that received considerable federal funding should I have disallowed the prayer?
Okay, being moderated for my last comment/ question. I will try again. This question is for anyone who wants to answer. Should I have disallowed a person from conducting afternoon prayers at work when we worked at a state institution that received considerable federal funding? He had a special piece of bench covering he used for the rug.
Well, I have asked the same question two different ways and both have been moderated. Maybe you all will have a chance to read it. But I do have a different question for Cynthia.
How are you going to protect a person's freedom from religion without taking away a person"s freedom of religion?
Well, Caramon, just to be clear, I think having Freedom of Religion in the Bill of Rights is a good idea. But, when trying to run a fair and balanced country, you also have to have Freedom From Religion that would cover the operational side of government to insure that we couldn't drag everybody's different religious requirements and views into reasons to go to war, reasons to prevent healthcare services, reasons to discriminate and most of all, religious free practices from the education of our citizens in government supported schools (although I thinkReligious studies in History courses are okay because, geesh, I'm not suggesting that that be struck from the story of man). Prayer at anytime is optional for anyone but, not required.
So, go ahead and wear a Christmas tree on your head if you want. Or prance around with a Jewish candlestick. Or wave your prayer rug around – just not in the halls of government that is suppose to be neutral so it can be fair.
There.
So if I understand correctly, please let me know if I don't, you would remove religious related activities from any institution, department or school that receives government funding. Like I said, feel free to correct me if I misunderstand. Do you not feel this is restricting the freedom of religion in all buildings and institutions funded by the government?
This must be a difficult topic for me. I have been moderated a total of 5 times so far, a new record. I will say this. Thank you Cynthia for explaining your position.
Rule of thumb.... ones' personal religious freedom ends when it infringes on anothers' right to freedom of religion....or non-religion.
The problem Jean is that to many people believe that any expression of alternative religions is an infringement. I said it before and will say it again. People strong in their religious beliefs will believe no matter what others do. What does it matter when you are a believer in certain religion. I have worked with people with three different religions and we all respected each other openly.
Lol to funny about the prayer rug comment
Caramon in my opinion people can believe anything they wish as long as they don't expect me to believe the same....they just need to refrain from foisting their belief's on others as their way being the requirment for everyone else to live by. i.e. employers should not be allowed to tell employees which health services they can or cannot have in their insurance plan....etc...etc. I know not one employer that is footing the bill for their eemployees health care. The employees hourly wage and benefits is providing the funding for their own health care.
" I know not one employer that is footing the bill for their eemployees health care."
Just because you don't know of any doesn't mean they don't exist. I have worked for two employers that footed the bill, one commercial and one public. My wife works for an employer footing the bill.
"Caramon in my opinion people can believe anything they wish as long as they don't expect me to believe the same"
I agree. The problem is that people freely expressing their religious views is now seen as an infringement of others rights. One woman once commented that religion should be restricted only to church and home. This is not a freedom of religion.
Once again I will say that people who are strong in their beliefs do not care what others do or say.
Since a religion is a personal choice it wouldn't matter...except only to those with a definite lack of intelligence.
Can you ever chime in without being so snipey? You sound very bitter at times! Not good for your health!
Is the truth hurting you there because it applies to you? I will repeat anyone in a country with religious freedom knocks another person's religion...or seems to think they know what another person's religion belief is...is lacking in intelligence. I will add your name to the same group as alphebet guy's.
Let me deflate your ego just a bit.
1. I am not hurt but you sound like you have been
2. I am comfortable in my beliefs, so your beliefs are on you and have nothing to do with me. Jesus does not stop you from believing what you want and neither will I
3. I also have a list and I am checking it twice. My list is bigger than yours and my list can beat up your list! Sounds silly right, so does the threat of you adding me to some list that does not affect me one way or the other!
4. Believe it or not but it is possible to know what a person believes. Just Google the religion, real easy!
I will repeat anyone in a country with religious freedom knocks another person's religion.
How so Jean? I worked with a person who performed daily afternoon prayer. Since it was a state funded institution should I have said no?
Three times moderated with the same question. There must be a word. I will try yet again.
I will repeat anyone in a country with religious freedom knocks another person's religion.
How so Jean? I worked with a person who performed daily afternoon rituals. Since it was a state funded institution should I have said no?
"I will repeat anyone in a country with religious freedom knocks another person's religion"
How so Jean? In a group of five people I worked with, three religions were represented. We respected each others beliefs and could even talk about them openly. I believe that people truly strong in their beliefs don't care what other people think.
I believe that people truly strong in their beliefs don't care what other people think.
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BINGO Caramon!
Caramon that I understand...but it is obvious that neither alphebetguy, or steveo come close to respecting, or can refrain from bashing anyone who may believe different them.
Me I'm on the same page as Thomas Jefferson – "But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket or breaks my leg."
There is an interesting online compilation of Jefferson quotes about Christianity and Religion online by Jim Walker
But my favorite quote is from Sinclair Lewis – "When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." That sounds too judgmentally right-wing Republican for me!
@jean, Feel free at anytime to cut and paste any comments I made that bashed anyone. Until then, you really need to stop making stuff up!
Gee broken record syndrome??
Steveo by chiming in to rebut Cynthia, and by approving of alphabetguy's comment about "prayer rug" where you were in effect helping him bash anyone for finding offense with his wanting to put down people who use a prayer rug. If you don't understand that simple chain of thought process through to its conclusion, then you are not very astute.
Well Jean, I am stunned that you are so wrong!
1. I just re-read my comment to Cynthai and the is not one word indicatiing iagreement with ACDC Guy. NOT one word.
2. If you read my comment I expressed surprised the mother comment.
3. Cynthia and I are straight about it and all you needed to do is read the chain., You would have seem the exact meaning of my comment
4.I have no earthly idea how you think I was endorsing ACDC Guy's prayer rug comment,
5. That is what I mean by you making stuff up. Just read the chain and you will see
Jean, Does being astute mean "making stuff up"? Or does it mean "as-sumption"? I ask because that is all you did.
Sorry about the spelling,
It´s documented that "W"Bush and Family was close friends to Osama Bin Laden . So much so that
on 9/11 when all planes were grounded in the U.S. He ("W"Bush) chartered a plane out of N.Y.City
for the Bin Laden Family to avoid interogation . In the 8 years "W" Bush was in office he couldn´t
or more likely WOULD´NT find Osama Bin Laden . Mr. Obama found and whacked Bin Laden in
3 and a half years of being in office . All the while the republicxan party , mr."W"Bush´s party
has done nothing but try to rape and ruin this Country and bring America to it´s knees ! In all
honesty the republican party has been the biggest help to Islamists trying to bring down the U.S. !
wow what a busy day for the hardest working POTUS ever...he who declared he would not rest until.....
Try Home Depot I hear they will be hiring 80,000.
How much federal stimulus did Home Depot get?
I'm sure they are counting on a lot of Sandy victims rebuilding, repairing, and remodeling...plus a nationwide uptick in home inprovement...I plan some of that myself flooring/carpet. If that is government funded stimulus fine that is if it will actually create jobs. Since you are from Cincy, just how much stimulus funding did Cincy & Hamilton Co. receive for home weatherization?
Since you are from Cincy, just how much stimulus funding did Cincy & Hamilton Co. receive for home weatherization?
I have no idea. However, I know that for many months, I was in a position to directly apply and chose not to do so. Yet, my family survived.
I only mentioned it because Cincy's stimulus records were audited.
Boy Dr. Carson nailed him good, eh ?
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta testified this morning on Capitol Hill that President Barack Obama was absent the night four Americans were murdered in Benghazi on September 11, 2012
Not surprising !!!! where was Hilly??? @cindi that is really rude, its not your fault your idol turned out to be such an inept loser, but really no need to be that rude
And you don't know what you are talking about!
The President's Schedule for September 11, 2012 as posted on the White House page
8:45 A.M President and First Lady observe a moment of silence comemerating 9/11on the Front Lawn
9:10 A.M. President and First Lady depart by helicopter to Pentagon for 9/11 ceremony.
9:30 A.M. The President and First Lady attend Pentagon 9/11 Ceremony.
11:30 A.M. The President and First Lady return to the White House
1:55 P.M. The President departs for Bethesda, Maryland
2:15 P.M. The President visits the Walter Reed Medical Center
4:40 P.M The President returns to the White House
5:00 P.M. The President meets with the Secretary Defense in the Oval Office
On Spetember 11, 2012 -Sec.Clinton
9:40 A.M. meet at with Fulbright Foreign Scholarship board
10:15 A.M. Swearing in ceremony for Gene Cratz, Abassador to Ghana
12:00 P.M. Meets with Leon Panetta Sec. Defense and Tom Donilon National Security Advisor at White House
2:15 P.M. Attends Flag Ceremony for Cameron Munter at State Department
4:00 P.M. Attends swearing in ceremony for Abassador to Serbia – Michael Kirby at State Department.
The only sore loser around seems to be you...deal with it.
Jean....you need to go to CSpan.org and listen to the testimony! Leon Panetta and General Dempsey both testified under oath that neither Obama or Clinton ever called to find out if Ambassador Stephens and company survived the assault. Never called to discuss with his Secretary of Defense or General Dempsey. So sorry to burst your bubble. POTUS position is NOT 8-5 when American soil is being attacked. You do know a US Embassy is considered American soil, don't you?
OBY'S SCHEDULE AND HIS WIFE'S WERE ALL PHOTO OPS–HE DOES THAT THE BEST OF ALL,SAVE BASHING BUSH
AND THE REPUBS AND BLAMING ANYONE WHEN HE NEEDS A SCAP GOAT. IF HE REALLY WHATS TO BE A GOOD PRES. HE NEEDS TO FESS UP FOR HIS OWN INCOMPITANCE. STOP HIS PERPETUAL CAMPANING -STAY IN HIS OFFICE AND LEAD INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BE A CELEBRITY AKA–ACTOR---JUST SAYING–DUFUS IS AS DUFUS DOES---–
Jean...I see you placed the scheduled of President Obama's and Former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton for their day on September 11. I don't see anything after 5pm...
If anybody a loser its the republican Brand and anybody that still believes them or their MOUTHPIECE , FOX news !
NBC, CBS, MSDNC, and on and on and on are all mouthpieces for the dems. Do you take issue with that?
WHy specifically don't you like FOX? Simply because they call out the repub and dem nuts in Washington? Do you love these politicians that much?
At this point we all know how how lib dems are. Take Chris Rock as an example. He bashed Bush for 8 years night after night during his act. Now he tells us we need to listen to Obama because the "President is like your father"?
To John Why FOX ?? Because they are known for their FLAT OUT LIES ! They are mean spirited and are known
for just backing up far right wingnuts ! There´s no honesty at FOX or TRUTH ! Have you seen their poll numbers
Lately ?? People have caught on to the crookedness of that Brand ! When it comes to FOX , BUYER BEWARE !!
So WG, are you suggesting that we should disallow conservative media effectively silencing 47 percent of the county's voices who voted Republican? Exactly what "lies" for which they are known? Could it be like the edited tapes from the Zimmerman case? No that was MSNBC. How about the edited tapes for Romney's visit to the fast food place? No that was MSNBC. They are know for being mean spirited? Like the time they talked about stomping on somebody's heart and sending him to the promise land? No that was also Ed Schultz at MSNBC. Do you actually watch MSNBC?
How many times have you read that Ed Schultz had to apologize for something he said? You don't like Fox, don't watch it. I don't like MSNBC and don't watch them. Problem solved!
I have been told many times that our President cares about the 100 percent, those that agree with him and those that do not. If this is true WG, perhaps you should follow our President's example.
At least Ed Schultz has the courtesy to apologize when he has misspoke...whereas the miscreants on FOX just keep ranting on in the same vein with the wrong.
Jean, once again you prove my point. What one chooses to believe is the only truth. There is a major difference between political opinion and wishing a person dead on national TV.
Jean, I'm sure pressure has nothing to do with his apologies, right? Fox is wrong but only because it disagrees with your political belief system! Last time I checked, this was still America! Watch what you want, read what you want! It's all good!
WG and Jean – I read your posts closely and you did not list one lie that Fox has told. Jean, calling someone a slut on the air is "mis-speak"? Are you talking about that one? Or, was it when he said "that black cloud Perry is talking about is Barack Obama"? Or maybe it was "Repubs oppose "Occupy Movement because of recism"? Or was it all that crap he was spewing about Scott Walker and the "pro-union" garbage?
I remeber you libs not accepting Limbaugh's apology for calling the person who wanted me and you to buy her birth control a "slut". That is ok with you because he "apoligized". I didn't think so.
You can't compare Schultz to Meghan Kelly, Breat Behare, or most of the others on Fox. You can try, but Schultz is not in their class. But, I understand he says what libs want to hear. And, you don't bother to mention the likes of Sharpton, matthews, Maddow and the gang?
Steveo, I agree with you, but if these libs keep trying to "censor" the only news programs that actually take an honest look at what these dems and repubs are doing and how they are failing all of us we are truly in trouble as a free nation. Free already means something different than it did 4 years ago.
Correct John and a point I made a while back. Eliminating any media that gives voice to those that disagree with government is the time when everyone should become afraid. This is the one thing our founders fought so hard against and the reason for the First Amend.
Maybe we should just do away with political parties. That would solve alot of problems. End of story.
John/Caramon,
The president's recent remark against Fox made him look petty! The questions libs need to think about is this: If it starts with Fox, where will it end? Maybe Liberals believe the GOP will never win the White House again? When that happens, then what? The pendulum swings both ways! The solution is easy, don't like Fox, don't watch it. Funny, how ONE station gets to them! I don't remember Bush having this reaction to ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, PBS, NPR or any of the 100s of pro-left channels! Some folks don't like to be called into question, plain and simple!
Maybe we should just do away with political parties. That would solve alot of problems. End of story.
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I don't know! Maybe in a perfect world, Cynthia! Choosing between gridlock and rubber stamping "Stepford Wives" like politicians! What to choose? I have come to the conclusion that both currently exists!
@Steveo. The Founding Fathers did not require we have political parties because DEBATE on the MERITS of legislation and the resulting up or down votes were more important, obviously. Look at what it took to craft the Constitution. It wasn't easy but, what came out of it was pretty amazing.
Humans by nature are argumentative. But, the reason man was able to survive was 'REASON'. Those individuals that were able to communicate ideas based on reason to the larger group effort moved man forward.
No political fund-raising necessary. No artifical divisions that can be stoked by a so-called brand. I'm all for it.
Cynthia, George Washington was against political parties. He believed it would eventually lead to future evils in government.
Steveo and Caramon, I responded about political parties but am taking my turn at being moderated.
My record on this article is 5 times moderated. Good luck.
Caramon I really think CNN needs a good thesaurus built into it's moderator system. It gets picky on even a word that includes maybe 3 letters of another word that would trigger moderation. I can type pond algae and not be moderated but not type what everyone cmmonly calls it! Please!
BTW – Caramon....What about the Liz Trotta"s comments on the YouTube video...isn't she a Fox contributor?
i have not had a chance to listen to Liz Trotta. But it seems you could be right on that one. Or should I say correct on that one. Looks like she knocks everyone. What time is she normally on?
Cynthia,
I agree with you100%. Doesn't it seem like the age of "reason" is gone? That is why I say all we have are politicians and no statesmen! The interests of the nation has been bypassed in favor of the interests of the party!
So question....For the people on here are saying fox new is vile, I have a question??? So, what is you opinion of Chris Matthews of Hardball or Piers Morgan???? What do you consider their reporting??
You forgot to cover the most important part of the National Prayer Breakfast, which was Dr. Benjamin Carson speech in President Barack Obama’s presence.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/prayer-breakfast-speaker-praises-jesus-gets-political-calls-political-correctness-dangerous-hammers-fiscal-irresponsibility/
It´s nice to know that Mr. Obama seeks guidence from our GOD . Just today I was watching S.B.C. where
Swaggerts wife and her buddies were talking about abbortion and one of them said it was the height of hipocracy
for president Obama to be "Pro-chjoice" and have the children of that Conn. Tradgedy surround him as he asked
the American people to get these "ChildKilling rifles off our streets ! But I don´t remember many of them
Critisizing "W"Bush when he did NOTHING about ending abortion . Nor did they say anything about Cheney´s
Daughters ACTIVE homosexual relationships ! Mr. Obama may not be the best Christian in the world but
lets look at his actions . He trying to help the OLD and the SICK and the POOR ! Where these far right so-called
Christian Wingnuts call a poor man or single Mom "Lazy " if they need Welfsare ass. Republican "Pharasee Christians
care more about babies in the womb than after they´re out of the womb !
Thank you Mr. President for your prayer to the nation.
I knew you were a believer and a man of humility. Though many post otheriwse, it is impossible to know faith and belief if one choose not to, we have free will to not believe.
I am deeply touched by your prayer and thank you for being the man of God that you are to lead our nation. Lkie Lincoln, you have many that hate and are the dividers, yet as you stated they are still acknowledged as Americans,;directly is in line with the teaching of Jesus, as you so many times quoted. I thank you for stating your faith, though many still scoff; you have the diginty to stand firm and lead in boldness and without fear.
I pray for you daily and our great nation, God bless you for your statement of humility and seeking God first, politics aside we all matter. These are your words, Mr. President believers and unbleievers alike.
Concerning the prayer breakfast – the Carson speech – WOW. He truly seems like an intelligent man of GOD. Seems not everyone enjoyed what he had to say.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA
what no Rev Wright? Oh yeah, obama threw him under the bus. I guess obama got a mouth full on his agenda, the messes, and division he has created, about time. And, Barry/barack did not look a bit too happy on the film clip...he don't like it when he has to face the music. hahah
commnet moderated why? Because I don't have rights? Who am I offending your opinion?
We need to talk about Dr. Ben Carson and his solution for Obamacare
Maybe CNN should publish the speech by Dr. Benjamin Carson. Rocked the house at the prayer breakfast. America needs to hear more from this very bright individual who isn't afraid to speak the truth. President Obama could learn something from him.
I totally agree with NJBChicago. BHO could learn a few things from the good doctor. Why doesn't CNN post a story about the doctors speech at the National Prayer Breakfast. I guess that CNN is afraid of posting anything that doesn't agree with BHO's policy of doing nothing for the American people. It would be against CNN's policy to make BHO look bad.
That guy was hilarious. To bad MORE people didnt have the balls like him. Obama was PISSED!!! Did you see?? He clapped at the beginning a few time but as the Dr went on you could see Obamas body language and facial expressions changevand he was mad as hell. Even when everyone cheersed, clapped and stood for the Dt Obama and hisvNarcissistic personality wouldnt let him applaud the Dr nor did he. The A-hole couldnt bring himself to clap or stand for the good Dr. I laughed my ass off. This guy was slick he was ripping into and insulting Obama and made it sound so eloquent as he was ripping Obama apart. Its nice to know that Obama HASENT GOTTEN ALL OF THE BLACK VOTES I bet the good Dr doesnt get an Invite next year nor ANY Obama events . Thats to bad too because the Dr would be and is a perfect roll model for minorities when its said they dont have the same opportunities as whites. The Dr is living proof all you have to do is apply yourself.
ON MANY OCCASION OB HAS NEARLY LOST HIS COOL WHEN THINGS DON'T GO HIS WAY. IT IS AN OBAMA TRAIT
WITH THE DIRTY LOOKS AND EVEN WALKING OUT OF SENATE WHEN HE FELT LIKE IT. SORT OF LIKE A SHIPS
CAPTAIN JUMPING SHIP WHEN THINGS GET TOUGH-–HE IS WHAT WE GOT–THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS----